Son on Vyvanse is having trouble sleeping. Any one know of something I can do without putting him on another medication?

Christa - posted on 11/02/2008 ( 22 moms have responded )

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Hi everyone.

My 13year old son is on 50 mg of Vyvanse daily and on 6 mg of melatonin an hour before bed. For the last coupler of weeks, he has been complaining about not sleeping most of the night. I am on a ton of medications for medical issues and a lot of them are because of side effects from certain meds. I don't want this for my child! Does anyone have any ideas of things I can try to help him that are more towards the natural side than a medication?

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Jen - posted on 03/16/2013

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My son is 12 yrs old and has never in his life slept through the night due to the severe range Adhd I was told by a top specialist this is a big common factor amongst these kids. My son only takes 30 mg and it does wonders....but I did an experiment last night and my son slept through the night for the first time!!! I am so happy. 1030 pm to 730am and he woke up happy and alert. The normal is mad, angry, tired, slow,... What I did was I gave him 3mg of melatonin strip melted on tongue at 9pm and at 10pm I have him 1 kids tablet of benydryl. Gave him his ipod with music and at 1030 I checked on him and he was sound asleep!! I cried. So many of his and many adhd kids problems stem from lack of sleep. If you can get the sleep going alot of the direct symptoms subside easy up. My son can not read. He has always been so exhausted in school to do anything especially sit and learn. I am hoping this is a big turning point. I am going to do this every school night this week and see if it is consistant... Hope this helps someone!

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Quoting Katherine:

My 8 yr. old is ADHD and is on Vyvanse 60mg (just bumped up from 50mg a month ago). One way we manage our sons sleep is to give him his pill at 6:30am (I wake up, give him his pill while he's still basically sleeping and then he sleeps for another 30 min which gives the pill time to work in his system so our morning runs much smoother), that way it's worn off in time for bed. We haven't tried melatonin, but thanks for the hint, I'll ask the Dr. about that and see if it's something that would work for him if he needs it at some point.





I talked to our Dr. about Melatonin and he said to not give it to our 8yr. because it has not been tested on children. So, he put him on 0.1mg. of Clonidine which is helping him get to sleep better...not necessarily keeping him asleep, but he said that takes about 2-3 weeks for it to fully take affect.



 



 



Katherine,



Melatonin is all natural and in my opinion one prescribed medication is enough. I'd much prefer the melatonin. My concern would be addiction down the road. My son, 11,has been taking melatonin 5 yrs with no side effects.  My dr. said you really can't overdose on it. Again it is natural.  Ask your pharmacist.



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Ndy - posted on 06/29/2014

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My son never slept on vyvanse he craved it and went through mini Withdrawls Change his meds

Penny - posted on 05/26/2014

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My son takes the over-the-counter supplement Melatonin every evening, two hours before bed. He now falls asleep quickly (instead of the 2-3 hours it used to take). Talk to his doctor about this option.

Penny Williams
Author of "Boy Without Instructions: Surviving the Learning Curve of Parenting a Child with ADHD"
http://PennyWilliamsAuthor.com

Karin - posted on 12/29/2013

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Christa, my 15 year old son has been taking .3 miligrams of Clonadine one hour before bed to help his sleep. His ADHD specialist MD prescribes it. It's a very common medication to help counteract ADHD meds. Ask to try it, but start lower, like .1 milligram.

Karin - posted on 12/29/2013

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Christa, my 15 year old has been taking .3 miligrams of Clonadine one hour before bed for years to counteract the ADHD meds, and it works very well and is safe. His ADHD specialist doctor prescribes it. Ask for it and start with .1 milligram first. It's very commonly used with ADHD patients.

Christa - posted on 06/22/2013

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Wow, I haven't seen some of the later responses. I changed my email address since I posted this 4 years ago. My son is now 17 and he is still having problems sleeping. We tried melatonin and it worked for awhile but I think he built up a tolerance. I will try some of the things Tracy mentioned. I have been taking cal-mag myself. I'm going to try to give it to him and see how he does. I can't give him Benadryl because it makes him hyper. He is now giving himself medication so it's about an hour later than I used to give it to him but he is up till 2-3 in the morning. He's begging me to help him get it fixed so I will try some of the natural remedies Tracy suggested.

Tracy - posted on 08/27/2012

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Doctors make a lot more money prescribing drugs than nature's remedies. A search on the drug name and keywords, su h as 'Concerta dangers side effects' will show documentations. Also, the drug manufacturer provides a side effects list parents often do not get or know to ask for. Concerta is one of the more addicting meds with very serious side effects. I just do a search such as... concerta lawsuits ordered to pay million. Those keyword will tell you all you need to know. Try same for melatonin and see the difference. Child suicides (and urge toward) related to these drugs is a big problem too.

Tracy - posted on 08/20/2012

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Christa, No time to read all the responses so I may be repeating what others say. I am a Drug Detox specialist and private Tutoe. This mean this topics comes up a lot with my clients and I am able to see the results of what they do. For example, when aI tell a parent what worked for sleep when someone is detoxing from drugs and what also weakens the health (more drugs), I can hear the results soon after. In your case, I would first tell you that because he is 13 and can't sleep, his body may be low in the calcium and magnesium needed for healthy nerves and growth. Do his legs bother him at night? Legs will jump and twitch. For my kids, I handled it with pure cal-mag. I get mine from Peter Gillhams in Hollywood through the net. There's other sources to get it too. I also gave them a food based vitamin/mineral complex which is harder to find these days since the gov is trying to take away or natural foods and supplements and google is censuring searches for them it seems. I also gave them natural Tryptophan which did natural wonders for detoxing patients at the rehab. Well, patients to the rehab doc, not the rehab. They were clients to the rehab. I'm just a mom who has worked in a related field and has researched all these years to stay up on the safe, effective, non drug alternatives. You will know thr first night, but... Nnot sure how the current drug will reduce the benefits. Contact me if you have questions. I use my phone for initial response but it's too hard on my eyes to continue. My web site is www.superphonics.net . I'm a private Tutor by trade.

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I give my daughter Melatonin, at 730 at night every night, this has worked wonderfully, it is all natural so no bad side effects, and to me if a dr is suggesting not giving Melatonin, they r against natural supplements. This is all natural!! This has been a life savor for us. Even before the adhd meds I started her on it cause she was up 3 to 4 times a night. Now she sleeps all night and most of the time im waking her up at 7 am to get ready for school. Its great and she is well rested!! Good luck!!

Christa - posted on 02/05/2009

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Thanks again for all your input! I really love this site! I ended up putting my son on a sleep med when 9mg of melatonin wasn't working. The medication is Vistaril 25 mg. He can take 1-2 capsules. I've also made him get in bed 30 mins before bedtime and read. We still have issues with him not wanting to wake up in the am but it is getting better.



Also, I just wanted to mention this...I have a hard time sleeping, myself, and finally did a sleep study. I found out my deviated septum was causing me to wake up way too many times (during the 7 hour study, I woke 38 times and that was with a sleep aid). My son had surgery when he was 5 years old, which makes him breath through his mouth and I wonder if he has the same issue. I am going to have him to a sleep study so we can get to the bottom of it. Thought I'd mention it incase anyone else on here is interested. Thanks again!

Casey - posted on 02/05/2009

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my daughter has adhd, takes concerta in the morning and clonidine at night to help her sleep. for a long time though, she took benadryl and worked amazingly. the doctor actually suggested it, so it is safe.

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My 11 yo son takes vyvanse as well. He also takes melatonin-3mg-usually 30 mins before bed. If he takes it sooner than that, it seems to wear off. We also have him stop playing any video/computer games at least an hour before bed. He has a hard time slowing his brain down after playing the games. The other thing is that right after taking his medicine he his in bed and reading. The reading is required but fortunately he likes to read and this helps to slow him down and he has an easier time getting and staying asleep. I hope this helps.

Katherine - posted on 02/04/2009

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Quoting Katherine:

My 8 yr. old is ADHD and is on Vyvanse 60mg (just bumped up from 50mg a month ago). One way we manage our sons sleep is to give him his pill at 6:30am (I wake up, give him his pill while he's still basically sleeping and then he sleeps for another 30 min which gives the pill time to work in his system so our morning runs much smoother), that way it's worn off in time for bed. We haven't tried melatonin, but thanks for the hint, I'll ask the Dr. about that and see if it's something that would work for him if he needs it at some point.


I talked to our Dr. about Melatonin and he said to not give it to our 8yr. because it has not been tested on children. So, he put him on 0.1mg. of Clonidine which is helping him get to sleep better...not necessarily keeping him asleep, but he said that takes about 2-3 weeks for it to fully take affect.

Stacia - posted on 11/13/2008

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Hi,

I have a 16 yr old daughter who is on Adderall, Depekote and Trazadone.

She still has trouble sleeping at times. I have started to chart the day/nights that she has trouble sleeping and have found that part of the trouble is a hormonal cycle. Guys at the age of 13 have a hormoal change also.

Something that helps my daughter is to go outside and work of extra energy before supper then take her shower and medications. She may be awake until 10 listening to instarmental music that is soothing but she will wake up refreshed.



Hope these ideas work.

Stacia

Stephanie - posted on 11/13/2008

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My 13 year old is on Concerta for his ADHD and Clonidine for ODD. The Clonidine has helped some with his insomnia, but what we need to remember is that the disorder (ADHD) itself, includes insomnia. My son doesn't sleep well at all. He gets up in the middle of the night and eats, sometimes several times a night. We've tried to fight it, but there's not a lot we can do. We just try to stress the importance of eating healthy and not taking the food back to bed...

Their minds just tend to work double-time and won't allow them to sleep...

Katherine - posted on 11/13/2008

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My 8 yr. old is ADHD and is on Vyvanse 60mg (just bumped up from 50mg a month ago). One way we manage our sons sleep is to give him his pill at 6:30am (I wake up, give him his pill while he's still basically sleeping and then he sleeps for another 30 min which gives the pill time to work in his system so our morning runs much smoother), that way it's worn off in time for bed. We haven't tried melatonin, but thanks for the hint, I'll ask the Dr. about that and see if it's something that would work for him if he needs it at some point.

Kimberly - posted on 11/13/2008

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hi talk with his dr and tell them how you feel and what is going on with him! they might know of other ways to help him or he might need to up the meds he is taking now not go on any more meds

Kathy - posted on 11/12/2008

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My 13 yr. old daughter also takes 50mg of Vyvanse daily and has had insomnia for a long time. She actually seems to "wake up" about 10 pm! Melatonin works fairly well. Before the melatonin, our pediatrician had recommended Benadryl. You might try the Benadryl children's grape flavored chewables, one chewable is equal to half the
dosage of an adult capsule. That way he would get a low dosage. Worth a try! zzzzzz

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I was going to suggest melatonin. It could be hormonal related. May want to talk to his pediatrician. My son is 11 and takes Vyvanse & 3mg of melatonin. Melatonin helps get them to sleep but doesn't necessarily keep them asleep. Sorry not more help. I'd try the dr.

Christa - posted on 11/02/2008

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By the way, he refuses to take Valerian Root cause he can't stand the smell/taste.

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