Is 5-7 vaccinations in one day too many?

Melissa - posted on 12/02/2009 ( 29 moms have responded )

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I just took my two month old to the doctor and I wasn't happy about the amount of vaccination she had. First of all the doctor didn't seem to want to listen to my concerns. He walked in and said, "Here's what we're doing today..." and proceeded to list of the vaccinations he was going to give. I tried to ask questions and perhaps discussing spreading out the vaccines, but he never gave us the chance to talk. My husband and I just stood there feeling a little helpless. Anyway, she was given about 5-7 different vaccines in one day. We went home and she vomited about 4 hours later. It's been a week now and she acts fine, but I still worry about any long term effects it could have on her. In NJ the state mandates that they have a Hepatitis B shot, but it transmitted through blood or semen. I just don't see why a baby would need to be vaccinated against something that we wouldn't need to worry about until she's older. I can't even remember everything she got but I think she possibly got the menangitis shot, a Rotavirus shot, the Diptheria, Tetnus, Pertussis combination and a flu vaccine. One of them was an oral vaccine. I am considering finding a new doctor because this one didn't seem to make me feel comfortable to express my concerns. My questions to other moms.... is that too many vaccinations for a baby in one day? Can't they just do one at a time? Can they wait until the baby is old enough to tell you if they don't feel well a few hours after a shot.? Why are they vaccinating against STDs like Hepatitus B when babies do not do drugs and are not sexually active? Shouldn't that be a vaccine for teens or adults who choose to have the vaccine? Can't parents have a say as to when and how the shots are given?

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Emily - posted on 11/11/2010

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I did not let them give my daughter any vaccines I did not want her to have. She is 7 mo & has had 2 hep b, 1 hib & 2 dtap. I am only letting her get one at a time. They wanted me to give her ALL of the recomended vaccines at once, but I said no. They do not need them all at one time, & if they're not around other kids... they do not NEED to have them until they start school. The only reason I gave her the dtap was due to the pertussis outbreak. The Dr cannot force you to get them. It's your choice.

Kelly - posted on 03/06/2014

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Anyone who says childhood diseases are harmless is a fool, I have seen a 4 year old die from complications of chicken pox! Go to a 3rd world country and you will see why these vaccines are so important. My children have all the vaccinations that were recommended and yes it was not a nice thing to go through watching them have injections, awful in fact, but my eldest is 10 now and cant even remember her last vaccination. Simple truth is it is harder on the parents, but we have to be tough, it is our job to protect them. Vaccine came about because people, young children were dying and getting serious outcomes form childhood diseases. Children who get measles are at risk of pneumonia and brain inflammation & damage and death., similar to rubella, pertussis, etc. These childhood disease are the reasons why 3rd world countries have high death rates in their children, they get polio, tetanus, diphtheria. So ladies please be tough for your child's sake! But I would agree that you need to find a doctor who explains these things and not dismisses your fears. Today's Doctors need to work with you and be respectful. But we need to too, theya re experts in their field, they wouldn be saying to give your child the vaccination unless it was had they thought was in the child best interests.

Elvira - posted on 11/28/2012

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Would you as an adult get 7 shots a day? If you let doctors to give the same to your baby, things might happen. Human involvement in any course of nature might bring along temporary benefits in the short or medium term, but long term always contrary. Vaccination with moderation 50-100 years ago might have had more benefits than counterindications, but humans often loose their sense of proportions, this is what is happening now in the name of "prevention" prevention withmedications , with masses of people being on medications for life, withindividuals being vaccinated against everything vaccine makers have a vaccine against. What happens now is that never ever in the history of mankind did we have huge masses of people harmed and injured finally becoming infected by life long degenerative diseases, as before, instead of having a few childhood deseases, with life long immunity thereafter! Now they are pushing boosters on already adult generatins, because they are not being immune of good old childhood deseases, instead they have diabetes, asthma, allergies, high blood pressure... slowly dying from their medication. It's up to you to step out of this vicious cycle.

Candace - posted on 12/31/2010

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I think that's too many shots to be giving to a baby in one day. Especially a two month old baby. I'd really find another pediatrician. The most my child has ever had during a doctor's visit is three. When the doctor was explaining the vaccines he would be given that day she showed me six and I asked her if he had to get all six that day and she told me that three were actually combined into this one drop. So he'd actually be getting three shots and then the one drop. I almost had a fit when I saw that. She actually wait until he was a little over two months before starting the vaccinations because I told her I was not going back to work right away and she felt there was no need to them if he weren't going to daycare and wasn't going to be exposed to a lot of different germs.

Kandy - posted on 01/13/2011

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My pediatrician must be completely different the most pokes my son has ever gotten was 3, then an oral vaccination. The day he got three was at his 6 month where they also gave him the flu vaccine. I would find a new pediatrician, mine explained what each vaccine was for and why it was important.

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KENYA - posted on 11/04/2014

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vaccines contain poisons aluminum, mercury and so on..there are NO SAFE LEVELS for these things in our bodies. DO UR RESEARCH PPL. CDC has also stated vaccines unsafe. more harmful than help.DR. ANTHONY MORRIS, former CHIEF VACCINE CONTROL OFFICER and research VIROLOGIST.....CHECK HIM OUT....and many more......vaccines causes all our childhood and adult hood diseases.look up EPIGENE no one has the same reaction ..EPIGENE dependent, vaccines..

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Yaddah - posted on 03/21/2014

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'Stood there feeling helpless'.. You ought to be ashamed of yourself allowing yourself to be convinced you can't decide what's best for your own children. Disgusting. And if your child does suffer from vaccine side effects, it's your own fault.

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What I wonder is - are these vaccine volumes even the same ratio to body mass? I am about 20x my baby's weight ... I would NEVER take a shot 20x what they give our babies! would you? (Never mind a couple of them one after the other) I've decided to spread our baby's vaccines out and to be selective over what he gets (certainly no flu jabs!). He had the 5 in 1 two days ago. He vomited (for the very first time ever) a few hours later and he's been sleeping most of the time since then + crying a hell of a lot! I'm really glad I didn't do the Rota virus (which I'll skip) & Pneumococcal at the same time as "recommended by doctors, claiming it's safe". By the way - I have some close and honest doctor friends - They are honest enough to say they have no idea what the effect of vaccines are, since it's not part of any doctor's curriculum. So don't believe the doctors who claim they do know - they're not trained in vaccines. Rather ask individual scientists privately who make these things - they'll know much much more about it's good/side effects. And especially, don't believe the medical reports written by the people who sells these product. Have you ever seen an add saying - "don't buy this - it's harmful" ?? I believe the overall intend of vaccines are relatively good. Although I believe it really is more about destroying the viruses globally than protecting the individuals (just my opinion) but it certainly still is HIGHLY experimental. e.g. They only recently swapped Thimerosal (a mercury-containing preservative related to neurotoxicity) for aluminum based preservatives as they now know it was harmful to the brain all these years, we'll learn in the years to come what the risks are for aluminum based preservatives. Lastly - some of these vaccines are still very new (e.g. Rotarix was introduced into the UK infant immunisation programme on 01 July 2013 - source: HPA). No one had these vaccines 10yrs ago - and there were no big epidemics etc. One day we'll probably end up having cold vaccines etc. so it makes you wonder about all the vaccines they are already giving nowadays....

Cindy - posted on 01/04/2014

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I live in Canada and am a member with VRAN (vaccine risk awareness network. Please see their website vran.org. They have information from Canada and the United States on all vaccinations. They also have videos you can view. Excellent information. You need to know what your risks are and what vaccinations are doing to the complex beautiful immune system.

To your health, the health of your children and future generations. Sincerely, Cindy

Elliott - posted on 10/10/2012

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doctors are out to make money- just like the rest of us- If they dont listen to us- then its time to find a different doctor- I just told my wife- Our peditrician is FIRED!!!! My son is so fing miserable and i fear we-re going to the hospital later tonight....

Aicha - posted on 01/13/2011

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I would find a new doctor who listens to your concerns and will help you feel better about vaccines my daughters were spread out a few at a time

Elfrieda - posted on 12/31/2010

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I'm in Canada, where it's hard to switch doctors once you've got one, at least in rural areas. When I told my dr that I wanted to delay my son's vaccines, he asked me why and then said "I don't agree, but you're the mother, and you are ultimately responsible for your baby's health." And he hasn't pressured me at all since then. (my son is 12 months now) One of my friends, however, was reduced to tears by her dr when she said she wanted to delay her daughter's 2-month vaccinations. Now she only sees the registered nurse in the same building. (an RN is basically a dr, only usually less mean!)
I'm glad that your daughter didn't have a bad reaction to her first round, and I'm sure you'll be more assertive next time around. Good luck, and be brave!

Crystal - posted on 12/30/2010

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you should check her records to see witch ones she got because she should not recieve a flu shot before 6months at 2 months they usually get a dtap hib hepb rotaviros hib and i believe pneumococcil most are combined definetly no flu shot at that age though so i would definetly look at her records they usualy get 5 or 6 at the first couple visits but only 3 or 4 actual pokes i always gave mine a little tylonol right before they went in for them it really helps

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Here in the UK at 2 months they have 2 vaccines which have 3 in each. 3 months the same. 4 months 3 vaccines, 1 single and 2 with 3 in each. Then 12 months 1 with 2 in. 13 months 2 with 3 in each. then no more until 3/12-5 years old. Personally I have nothing against that system and my son has had all of his vaccines to date.

Jevonna - posted on 11/16/2010

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I suggest getting a new doctor...ASAP! That is just ridiculous! Our doctor told us we could give our son shots whenever we felt fit! Well after educating myself I don't see the need for him to have any!!! My doc doesn't like my decision but he respects me and my decision!

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i am very pro-vaccine. i will have all my children vaccinated on alberta health care's schedule. i believe it helps in the long run, and helps other people as well.
that being said, your doctor should have listened to your concerns and answered any questions before giving the shots. i would find a different doctor if i were you. here in alberta, the health nurses do the vaccines, and they give your baby a quick checkup and ask a bunch of questions about how she's doing and explain all the shots before they give them to you. if you have any questions, they'll answer them. they also have a number you can call afterward if you have any questions or concerns.
if i were you, i'd definitely find another doctor, one who will listen to you and not just shrug off your concerns because they dont have time to talk to you.

Felicia Neikolle - posted on 09/24/2010

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With my oldest son I didn't start vaccinations until he was 8 months old because I firmly believe that vaccinating before this is pointless. He is now 10 and has only ever had 2 ear infections and stitches for falling and busting his chin open. He is the healthiest kid I've ever known. With my daughter (and now my youngest son as well), my insurance is state assistance so I HAVE to get them vaccinated on the schedule recommended. However, I do NOT allow the doctors to give them that many vaccines in a day. The requirement is for them to have them within a certain month range of age ... not that many in one day. I take my em back for multiple visits instead. It's typically a battle with the pediatrician but ultimately, no doctor can perform anything without your ok. You have to do what's best for your child.

User - posted on 09/23/2010

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Theres a website in development that gives out a schedule for new born babies its twoandtalking.com it lists all the vaccines you need to give to your baby and that they should start at the age of two and not at birth.

Mylene - posted on 12/06/2009

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I agree that you should find a doctor that is more responsive to your concerns. In Canada, we also have the multiple vaccines. My little girl just had her first ones (7 also in one sitting). She will have to have these vaccines 2 more times before her first birthday to ensure her immune system is prepaired for them. However, they do recommend that baby be at 100% to make sure they have a better chance of no reaction and if we need to spread them out, they cooperate, but you have to say so. Don't just sit there and let the doctor do his thing. Speak up. I don't care how long he went to school to have his degree, this is my child and the are not putting anything in her that I am not comfortable with.

Also, about the Hep. B vaccine, Hepititis B is not a Sexually Transmitted Disease (you are thinking of hepititis C). Hep. B is transmitted through blood, food or infected tools (example: nail clippers, or infected water). That is why they give it to babies. There is no vaccine for the STD Hepatitis C.

Paige - posted on 12/05/2009

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though u had the vaccinations already, you can't exactly take it back. lol. so i suggest that you just get a new Dr./Pediatritian. It's very unprofessional for him to not give you the information you deserve. Also, Dr.'s wouldn't give them so many vaccinations if they didn't think it was safe. They are Dr.'s after all, and they go to school for a very long time to become one. Hope I helped a little. Good luck! :)

Hanna - posted on 12/03/2009

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you do need to get all those vaccines in, however, i wouldn't advise you to do that many in one day. with my son, i split them up -- did the heavier one like a polly-o, tetanus with lighter ones and no more than 1 combo shot per vaccination.

they can do 2-3 at a time, except you need to tell them that this is what you want and they'll try to convince you how it's safe and blah blah and how there's no known proof that vaccinations cause autism. you'll look like a crazy paranoid mom, but hey, it's your child and you're doing what's best for him. i know i look like a paranoid freak at my doctor's office, but at the end of the day, it's my decision how they will vaccinate my child. we actually missed our 9 month appointment because Maxi was sick & when he didn't get better, i took him to the doctor yesterday. the doctor was trying to tell me how it's ok to vaccinate my baby while he's sick (meanwhile the only reason why i even got an appointment was because he was running a fever). i told her i'll bring my son back as soon as his sickness clears up and that was the end of the discussion. they can't force me to administer the vaccine if i don't want to.

as far as risks of autism: technically, they're right when they say that the shots don't cause it. it's not the shots, it's the reaction to the shots, i.e. high fever for long period of time -- it basically cooks the protein in the blood & that's what's flowing to your baby's brain. so the more shots u administer, the higher the risk that the body will need to run a fever to fight the foreign bodies administered through the shot (which is essentially what it is, a dead form of the virus). if you do fewer, and your baby runs a fever, at least you can tell the doctor which one it is. if you do 7, well it can be any one of them so it's harder to pinpoint the exact cause. for that same reason, old-school doctors will tell you to make sure that your baby is at 100% when vaccinating just to have your baby's immune system as strong as possible when introducing a foreign body into his system.

the reason why most doctors push to vaccinate is because these vaccinations do in fact prevent some serious diseases which if not prevented do cause some serious damages. and the reason why they push to do them all at once is because time=money. they don't make extra money if you come in additional times -- they can charge one scheduled visit and from there on out, additional ones are free. so they're trying to get as many patients as possible in shortest amount of time. for that same reason, you usually have to wait to see the doctor even if you have an appointment. and it's the nurse who does all the basic prep (measures the baby, weighs the baby, takes temperature), then the doctor pops in for 3-4 minutes, does a quick exam, chit-chat to make u feel better & the nurse is the one doing the follow-up (i.e. shots, any other tests that need to be run, etc.) and the doctor is off to see the next patient.

basically, you're going to encounter the same reaction with most doctors. so if you want shots given separately or you want to be involved more in what they're doing to your baby (if God forbid she gets sick), you need to be firm, you need to open your mouth and make yourself heard. and next time you hear that here's what you're doing, you can tell the doctor straight up, no, this is what we're doing. and if you don't like it, tough sh**. you are the parent and they have to go by what you decide. and if your doctor doesn't want your money, you can go across the street to the next doctor, it's as simple as that. i actually told my doctor that they can administer half today and i'll be more than happy to come back next week and do the rest or come back twice to complete the list of shots. and then they seem to cooperate. they still don't like it, but at the end of the day it's your opinion that matters. if you want, you can choose not to vaccinate all together & they can't do anything about it until your child needs to go to school or daycare (then you do have to have all shots in order). good luck to you!

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Find a new doctor. Ours will let us space ours out a little so she doesn't get so many at one time.

Ally - posted on 12/03/2009

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All the vaccinations theses days are way too much in my opinion. And yes they can be spread out we are doing an alternative schedule with our daughter who is 20 months and she has never recieved more than 1-2 shots at any visit. That way if they do have a reaction you know which vaccine is the culprit. The oral vaccine your daughter would have recieved is the rotavirus vaccine and she would have recieved the DTaP, Hib, PCV (pneumococcal), and IPV (polio). (the flu shot isnt given until 6 months) You really need to find a doctor who at very least listens to your concerns and answers your questions ...we had to end up switching doctors because of this issue and have found a fabulous one that doesnt always agree with us but explains his position and respects our feelings as parents. The vaccine book by Dr.Sears that someone else recommended is a fabulous resource. The reason that the hep b shot is given so early (first dose at birth) is bc they are trying to wipe out the disease from this country and some babies may never see another doctor again after they leave the hospital so they try and start the process before they walk out the door. It is completely unecessary to vaccintate and infant for hep b and it is def one of the vaccines that you can hold off on. As the parent you have the final say in what vaccines you child does and does not recieve and you have to be your own advocate...you will run into doctors and other parents who will disagree with you if you decide to do an alternative schedule, i work as a registered nurse and have gotten the "i can't believe your child isn't up to date on their shots" from other nurses and doctors at work all the time but you can't let them intimidate you into doing something you are uncomfortable with. Educate yourself on the different options then choose what works best with your family...if your child is not in daycare and you are breastfeeding and are vigilant about handwashing and don't take your child to crowded places frequently your baby is at a much smaller risk for diseases than a formula fed baby in daycare whos parents let everyone hold them. there are also ways around getting certain vaccines depending on your state you can religiously/medically object to certain vaccines but nj doesnt allow philosophical objections. They only need the vaccines before they start school (so assuming you stay at home) you could wait until much later. If you are interested i would be happy to send you the vaccine schedule that we are using for our daughter...it is a modified version of Dr. Sears alternative schedule. Good luck with your decision.

Melissa - posted on 12/03/2009

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I would find another doctor ASAP! NO ONE should inject ANYTHING into your child without your 100% agreement... shame on him! The only vaccine that has to be done at a certain time is the rotavirus vaccine (it has to be done before 10 weeks, at least according to our baby's doc) so there's no reason that you can't space vaccines out further. As for waiting until they're old enough to tell you about how they're feeling, that's exactly what my husband and I have chosen to do... we plan on waiting until she's 2 years old or so before giving her any imms. Also, that's exactly the way we felt about the Hep. B shot. It's routine in Maine to give that shot before they've even left the hospital, and we politely declined it. In any event, no matter what you do regarding vaccines, someone is going to try to make you feel guilty about it-- if you don't get them, someone is going to tell you you're neglectful, if you do get them, someone is going to tell you you're poisoning your baby, etc. So the key, I think, is to educate yourself, make your decision, and stick by it. It is absolutely your decision and no one else's. Good luck!

Betsy - posted on 12/03/2009

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Our doctor uses shots that are combined and our little one at the most had four. They said that if we didn't feel comfortable with that many they would break it up and do two and then we could come back in a week or two for the other ones. If my doctor didn't listen to my concerns I would be looking for another doctor. Our doctor never rushes us and will sit an answer as many questions as we have.

Lady - posted on 12/03/2009

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children are bombarded with viruses germs and everything else every day and manage to fight them off - just because you are injecting them into their bodies doesn't make it all that different. i'm sorry that your doctor was not very helpful in explaining the procces in the uk we are given a child health record which lists all immunisations given and even on the day they give you a sheet which lists them again just so you are sure. all four of my children have had all their injections just as the doctor gives them and none have had a reaction and all are well and very healthy - in the uk at 2 and 3 months they are given 6 different vaccines and 7 at 4 months. hope this helps but if you are unsure don't be afraid to be more forceful with your doctor it's your baby and you need to know what they are giving her and why.

Courtney - posted on 12/02/2009

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I'd suggest reading Dr. Sears The Vaccine Book if you are feeling this way. :) We are going by his schedule and our daughter has done wonderful with her vaccines so far.

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