Milk and babies under one.

Momof1 - posted on 09/21/2010 ( 18 moms have responded )

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The other day I made french toast for me and my son. (He is 10 months.) Without thinking to much about it, I added whole milk (usually I use skim, but I used whole milk because of Bryce.) He seemed fine that day and the next, except for maybe pooping a little more then usual. Two days later I made it again, but this time, I used skim milk, because we were out of whole milk. After he ate that, he seemed a little more fussy and more poopy. (Then again, he woke up sick the next day, so maybe that was it.) Anyways, I was just wondering what the protocol is for giving babies under 1 regular milk. I know they can't drink it out right, but they are allowed to have whole milk products (cheese, yogurt...) So I was just wondering if that is okay and if I should use whole milk all the time when cooking for Bryce. When making tuna casserole or real mashed potatoes, I use skim, and I let Bryce eat that stuff. Is that okay? Also, Bryce gets very constipated after eating cheese type baby foods (mac and cheese, broccoli and cheese...). Does that mean he may have a milk allergy, or it's just one of those things?



Also, for the women who have cooked using breast milk, would you use that the same way you used regular milk? Because I read one post from a woman saying she waited until the coffee cooled down before putting breast milk in it. So I just wondered if you could cook with it, like so I could maybe make his french toast with it instead. Thanks.

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Jessi: Here in the Uk abbies can have the white and yolk of eggs from 6 months so advice varies greatly from place to place =]

Also some info on why cow's milk shouldn't be given as a drink before 12 months old:
"One of the main reasons you should wait until after baby is 1 year old to introduce milk as a formula/breast milk replacement is that milk/dairy hinders the absorption of iron in the body. Milk is also much harder for baby to digest than breast milk or infant formula.

Milk by itself does not contain all the nutrients of breast milk or formula and should never be used as a substitute until after 1 year of age. The cooking of the food that contains the milk will aid in breaking down the milk proteins so that many babies who are 8 months+ are able to have baked goods that contain milk.

As noted on our solid food chart for the 4-6 month old baby, we indicate that dairy should not replace breast milk or formula until a baby is 12 months of age. There is a possibility of serious health risks should breast milk and/or formula be replaced with cow milk, particularly at the 4-6 month age range.

These risks include Iron Deficient Anemia. Cow milk hinders the absorption of Iron and can cause anemia. Iron is crucial for baby's healthy development. Besides the risk of iron deficient anemia, if your baby drinks cow milk to replace breast milk and/or formula, baby will not receive enough Vitamin E or enough EFAs (essential fatty acids). These nutrients are also crucial to healthy growth and development."

Plus cow's milk is quite high in salt too.

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Momof1 - posted on 09/23/2010

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Thanks for the advice ladies. I haven't actually tried breast milk or cooking with it, but I thought MAYBE I would try it, if I was sick or whatever. :)
I made Bryce french toast yesterday and today and he seems fine for now. I do use the whole egg, only because when you read the label on the baby mac and cheese, it says it contains egg white. And I thought that was weird since a lot of things say not to eat egg whites, but he has always been fine eating scrambled eggs, so I'm not worried about the egg. I just wasn't sure if I could continue to use skim milk, instead of whole milk.
Thanks.

Melanie - posted on 09/23/2010

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@Jessi Rozek: A lactose intolerance is an inability to fully digest the lactose in milk. Lactose is the milk sugar. Lactose intolerance is caused by a dificiency in the enzyme called Lactase, which is produced by your small intestine to break down lactose. It's very rare for a baby to be born with lactose intolerance. A dairy allergy, however, is caused by an immune system malfunction that your body mistakenly detects the proteins as being dangerous. So your body tries to fight off the proteins. Both casein and whey can cause allergic reactions. You can be allergic to one or both proteins. There are many websites stating the differenc between the two. You can Google "lactose intolerance vs milk allergy" and it will tell you the various websites. There is a difference, though.

Nicole - posted on 09/23/2010

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jesse - Having an intolerance is NOT the same as an allergy....Food allergy is an immune response while food intolerance is a chemical reaction. Symptoms of food allergy include wheezing, stomach upsets and skin rashes. Symptoms of food intolerance are similar to food allergy, but can be associated with conditions including asthma, chronic fatigue syndrome and irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). Some food allergens include nuts, shellfish, milk, egg and soy products. Anaphylaxis or anaphylactic shock is an extreme allergic reaction and can be life threatening.

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Thanks for that info. The website is American based though so that's probably why the advice given there is different from what I've been told living in the UK.

Jessi - posted on 09/22/2010

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that's not a state/country recommendation. that's what i found on www.wholesomebabyfood.com. they have a whole bunch of allergy information on there

Jessi - posted on 09/22/2010

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melanie - having an intolerance to milk is having an allergy but the difference between being lactose intolerant vs having other types of allergies is where (say an allergy to shell fish) the person, depending on how bad, will brake out in a rash or their throat will close. dairy allergies cause severe gastrointestinal pains followed by diarrhea and/or vomiting.

Melanie - posted on 09/22/2010

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Alison, I think the reason babies are not supposed to drink cow's milk until 1 year is because of milk allergies. Not because of an intolerance to the milk as a whole, but the proteins and individual things in the milk.

Melanie - posted on 09/22/2010

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Do you eat the things you cook, personally? I brought up to my fiance the pros of breastmilk, and even tried it once... it kind of tasted gross, to me. Does it make food taste different than cooking with cow's milk?

Alison - posted on 09/22/2010

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The main reason that babies should not drink milk before age one is because they need the iron levels found in breastmilk and formula (correct me if I am wrong on this one).

All the recommendations regarding allergies are more guesswork than anything else. You really have to see how your own child reacts to different foods and act accordingly. I definitely gave my girls scrambled eggs before one year and never had any issues.

Vicki - posted on 09/21/2010

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DS has eaten what we've eaten sincr 6 months, although he's only starting to eat a significant quanity now (14 months). This probably included milk cooked into things, cheese, eggs, nuts (not whole). I avoided honey, and obviously junk foods but that's it,

He hasn't had cows milk to drink though, still just boobmilk and water. Nothing wrong with French toast with breastmilk, gotta be better for him than cows milk right? I wouldn't have enough EBM around to use.

Jennifer - posted on 09/21/2010

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whoops! lol, there i go thinking the world revolves around me again hahahah. i re read the original post and realized you probably weren't correcting me :P

Jessi - posted on 09/21/2010

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lol jennifer i was wondering what you were talking about at first but then i just read your comment right before mine! what i meant was (and jeannette idk if you do separate the white and just use the yolk) but if you make french toast using whole egg batter that could be where the problem lies.......issue potentially being the whole egg and not the milk.

Jessi - posted on 09/21/2010

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oh and cheese is well known to back anyone up. moderate how much he takes in. now if the cheese starts causing diarrhea that's when you should contact your physician b/c that's usually a sign of lactose intolerance.

Jessi - posted on 09/21/2010

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babies aren't supposed to have egg whites....only the yolk. egg whites are 1 of the top 8 allergens. should not be introduced before 1yr.

Jennifer - posted on 09/21/2010

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you definitely can cook with breastmilk like you normally would...adding it to hot coffee though can cause the milk to curdle. i've used breastmilk in scrambled eggs and pankcakes, and it works just the same.

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Here in the UK whole milk can be used in cooking from 6 months old but not as a drink until 12 months old. Children should have whole milk until aged 2, thereafter they can drink semi-skimmed milk. These are the recommendations for the UK though so it may be different where you live.

Karen - posted on 09/21/2010

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i had the same question at my son's 9 month check up - the dr told me not to worry about milk in cooking as it wasn't amounting to very much and around 10 months is when she told me that it would be okay to introduce yogurts, etc to him....cheese is very constipating so it's most likely not an allergy, but i would bring it up with his dr at the next visit just incase

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