Varicella... yes or no? Other immunizations??

Sarh - posted on 01/03/2011 ( 23 moms have responded )

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Did you give/get your baby the Varicella vaccine? Do you plan to?
My daughter had the chicken poxs naturally at about 10m so I didn't have to worry about the vaccine.
My son is 7 months old and I know I have some time still, but I would like to know if you did or did not vaccinate your child for Varicella.
He had a viral reaction to his 6m shots (on December 14th, I think) which started with a rash, then a slight cough here and there, runny nose and on December 27th he started with a fever continual for about 3days. He now has a horrible cough and I believe a sore throat (can't ask a 7m old), his runny nose is bad and a little nasal congestion.
Another question I have is did you just get all the scheduled immunizations? If not what didN'T you get and why? I looked them up on the American Academy of Pediatrics and I can't figure out what to do. I don't want him to have another reaction or even a worse reaction. There is also a family history of allergies to medications including antibiotics, I know there is only a small amount of antibiotics in the vaccines, but I'm still afraid that small trace amount might affect baby and cause a reaction.
PLEASE HELP! I was young when my daughter was a baby and just got what the pediatrician said she was getting and needed.

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Sabrina Nicole - posted on 01/08/2011

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my son will have all of his shots, he has even already had his flu shot at 9 months. I refuse to put him or any other child he is around at risk for anything, although i do respect parents decisions about vaccinations. They are a little bit scary just because you dont know EVERYTHING about them. i do want to say, however, my sons father, did not have his varicella vaccine and at 2 years old he got it and had such a high fever it started a lifelong seizure disorder that he has no control of. just something to think about.

Sarh - posted on 01/07/2011

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Janet, I'm not looking at surveys or anything other then the facts from aap.org! I don't read or believe half the other crap you can find on the internet or in magazines! My mom took care of a guy who had measles or something of the sort or it might have been from a vaccine, but both him and his twin brother had suffered horrible brain damage. They were about 2yrs old I believe maybe younger and neither have been able to talk or do really anything other then use the bathroom and eat on their owns. He is about 45 now I believe and my grandmother watches him now that my mom no longer has her daycare. So, I know what can happen.

Felicia, I as well tell every doctor that my daughter and son both are allergic to penicillin because I am. And yep, we all avoid anything in the cillin family and also things closely related!!

Shannon, thanks! :)

My little guy is giving me a run for my money! My baby girl was a breeze other then her chronic ear infections and she had an allergic reactions to Biaxcin and Augmention, I think I might be forgetting something other then the cillin family. Bubby has to have sensitive diapers and wipes, I could use anything with my daughter. His hands and feet are always cold and my daughter's are always hot! It is amazing how a different father could cause such a difference between two children! ANYWAYS!

Dora - posted on 01/06/2011

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My husband and I were completely against vaccinations with our son at first and found a pediatrician who supported our decision even though she expressed why she believed in vaccinations. After having to place our son in day care at 15 months old and visually seeing what he would be exposed to we decided to allow 1 vaccine every 1-3 months only if he was 100% healthy. We also have NOT allowed any combination shots. Single vaccines only. We are holding off on a few vaccines until he is much older such as polio, Hep B, etc........ He is now 2 1/2yrs old and we recently decided to let him get the varicella because I am pregnant with baby #2 and my blood results came back with no immunity to chicken pox. Since he is around many children who can easily spread the chicken pox we felt it was best to have him vaccinated against that. My pediatrician also advised us that it will not have any negative effects if he is not on the normal vaccination schedule. We have taken our time and have no regrets. Of course he still has plenty of more to get because of the schedule we have decided on but it is making us feel at ease.

Emily - posted on 01/04/2011

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We get all the immunizations. Some delayed for different reasons, but my kids will get them all. For me, benefits outweigh any risks. There is not a lot of evidence that vaccines *cause* viral illnesses. The reason people attribute cold/flu symptoms to vaccines is for a couple reasons: 1) kids may get exposed to the virus before getting the vaccine. The vaccine can take days to weeks to be in full effect, so your child can still develop the illness. 2) doctor's offices, where you receive the vaccine, are teaming with bugs. There are sick kids there every day. Easy for a healthy child to pick up a virus while they're in for their vaccine.

Felicia Neikolle - posted on 01/04/2011

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With my oldest I didn't get any immunizations for him until he was 8 months old b/c that is when a baby's immune system actually is developed enough to process the immunizations they are given. When he went in to get his first ones I told them they were most certainly NOT giving him 5 in a single visit that he could have 2 and we would come back for the rest. They did not like it at all and told me I was a bad mother. I reported the nurse to the hospital director since I was taking him to the clinic of the local children's hospital. He did just fine and never was sick during the entire 8 months. In fact, the only time he was sick in his first 2 years was an ear infection at 15 months, two weeks after immunizations. Now, with my daughter I was on Medicaid and had to get the shots on their schedule or lose the Medicaid so she got them but not all at once either. All immunizations have a general time frame they are to be given so if she was supposed to get 5 at one visit and not come back for 3 months for more then I spread the 5 out over the next 3 months starting with anything that was to be repeated. With my 4 month old we are doing basically the same thing. We are giving him his within the state's specified time frame but not lumped all at once. Plus, his pediatrician doesn't believe it's good for them to have that many and won't do more than 3 (with the third being an oral). My older two had the varicella vaccine but I'm thinking N'Khil probably won't until before entering school. I think chicken pox is a disease that I'm ok with my kids having ... I know that sounds nuts but I remember it being an awesome vacation with a side of itchy when I got it! lol ... My husband thinks he should have them when the doctor says. We have some time still to discuss and decide ... I'm leaning towards no.

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Annaleigh - posted on 01/08/2011

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my daughter got a horrible rash from the Varicella. after all her problems with shots I waited til my next was 3 before starting his shots and my younges hasn't had any shots and won't until he is older and his immune system is ready for it. I prefer to wait because it will let their immune systems fully form and work, if you get them shots as their immune systems start to recover from the previous shots their immune system will not work right. Granted I stay home with mine, but my older son was in a daycare situation and never had any problems. He hasn't had so much as an ear infection. My daughter came home with something new all the time! I think she made the doc's make up new viruses and stuff!! lol...so not fun.

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my daughter has all her vaccinations up to her 18 month, which includes the chicken pox. she got her flu shot this year, which didnt help at all, we all still got sick, but being around her cousin who had the flu didnt help lol. my son has had his 2 month shots and i have his 4 months booked. hes only 3 months right now. i would discuss your fear with your doctor, as you have reason to be worried. my kids never had a reaction to their shots, other than maybe being a little cranky after, but if they did that would sure be scary! especially with a family history of allergies. good luck figuring something out!

Felicia Neikolle - posted on 01/07/2011

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Sarah the allergic reaction is a concern for me as well as my oldest son & I are both HIGHLY allergic to penicillin. So much that I claim my daughter is to save her from the reaction if she is and will probably claim my baby boy is too. Allergies (especially medicinal) can be inherited. I didn't realize this until after my son was given amoxicillin for an ear infection and he had a HORRIBLE reaction. My mom is allergic to penicillin, my sister, I am, several of my family members are allergic to penicillin. He is, in fact, allergic to penicillin as well and if you are allergic to penicillin you are allergic to the rest of the cillin family since penicillin is the basis for each of them.

Janet - posted on 01/06/2011

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I always got my girl all their shots when they were needed. Because now days a kid could get a measles and die from them them. My brother got The measles when he was a baby before the shot was invented and he ran a high fever and he ended up with brain damage and grand mal seizures all his life. When he was 50 his heart stop for 45 min and he was dead he saw Jesus and he said that there is alot of people to love you and he needed to go back.So he came back to us but his heart is damaged and has to have to take even more medicine. I would check into it with your dr, and don,t let papers and survays presway you. After all its you childs life and my God bless you

Sarh - posted on 01/06/2011

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When my brother was a baby he got the chicken poxs and even though I was vaccinated for it I still got a mild case you described your daughter had.

Viola - posted on 01/06/2011

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my daughter got the chicken pox shot in her 1 yr shots... and she ended up with a very small case of them she had like 20 places if that, and they were gone with in like 3 days..but she is also 13 months..

Sarh - posted on 01/05/2011

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Emily, I am aware of that. That is why he will get the vaccine before starting school, plus, with the public school system here it is mandatory to have had the vaccine or to have had them naturally. I had a problem with the school saying she was not vaccinated for it and I had to explain to them that it was because she had them naturally then everything was fine!
When my daughter had them my mom (35 at the time) got shingles she was uncomfortable, but survived. My step grandfather also got them from my daughter, he is from Puerto Rico and I'm assuming they don't vaccinate for that. He works in a heat treat factory, insisted on going to work (I don't believe he has ever missed more then a handful of days of work for the past 30+yrs!!, even when he got his fingers caught in the machine at work and his knuckles busted open he still went to work) and the heat makes chicken poxs/shingles worse. He as well survived.
I understand some people/babies could die from it.

Erin, yes, I as well agree that your boys should get all the vaccines possible w/daddy being a Marine. Thank your husband for serving our country for us! :) My FIL is a former Marine (Veitnam) and my fiancee was in the Navy, but has been discharged. There are other military men in the family, but anyways! Thank you for understanding where I am coming from about the vaccine schedule. :)

I hope everyone's New Year is starting off great! :)

Erin - posted on 01/05/2011

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My boys are both getting their shots mostly on schedule. My youngest was on a "forced" delay with one shot because the military clinic we were going to couldn't get it in in the amounts needed so they were only giving that shot to the children with the most need. We are now going to a civilian clinic and he is caught up on that shot and is back on the "regular" schedule. My husband is an active duty Marine and while he's in the States for right now (recruiting duty) he will be going back to regular deployments all around the world in another year. I feel that it's best for my boys to vaccinated against any diseases possible because of the viruses my husband will be exposed to and possibly bring home. Many of the vaccinations protect against diseases that still kill children in other parts of the world so with their father possibly going to these places, I want my children protected. Since you have a family history of antibiotic allergies and vaccination reactions, I would suggest a modified vaccination schedule. If no one in your family will be regularly going out of country, then I would talk to your pediatrician, explain your concerns, and focus on those diseases that are still popping up in the US.

Emily - posted on 01/05/2011

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As for the chicken pox vaccine, I used to be against it. But have since learned that some people can get very serious (deadly) infections from the virus, not to mention being susceptible to shingles for years down the road.



I myself had the chicken pox at age 2. Didn't have any problems with it from what I was told. However, I gave it to my father, and he got very ill with it. He was only in his early 30s at the time. Older people who get it can die from it. Not to mention now that I've had a premature baby, I understand now how unvaccinated people can threaten the little ones whose immune systems are so delicate. I think it's important to get the vaccine not only for your kids, but for the vulnerable people in the population who can't be vaccinated, or who have immune disorders.

Tammy - posted on 01/05/2011

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Even if you feel it is not the right vaccine to get your child would not be allowed to enter any pre-school daycare or elementary school with out it. As for the vaccine's all at once being in the medical field I would rather give my children all at once instead of 5 or so visits. I don't have time to take my kids to the dr. every week. Besides with almost every child getting these vaccine's there is not going to be much of a chance for them to get the chicken pox on their own anyway. This vaccine was created because children were dieing from this. I have one child my oldest 14 who got the chicken pox on her own at 3 months I had several parents bring their children to my home wanting them to get it and did not. My other 3 have all had the shot.

Sarh - posted on 01/05/2011

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I'm saying the rash is the viral reaction followed by a cold which yes he could have gotten the cold from the dr office or somewhere else.
My daughter's immunizations were always delayed because she had chronic ear infections from 3m-1yr and then some after and she had her second set of bilateral ear tubes placed between 8 & 10m. She was always getting cocksakie (sp?) and she had a chronic runny nose from birth so if she had any symptoms of a cold aside from her runny nose dr would not give her the immunizations for that visit. She is almost 5yrs old now and has not been as sick for a few yrs, but her 5yr well check is delayed 2m after she actually turns 5 because of the past and our insurance will not allow for her well visit to be pushed back to closer to her birthday. Which I think is stupid, but if there is a certain time frame or what not that the immunizations have to be given and have to be given a certain amount of time before getting a second dose or what not of one she got at her 4yr check up I suppose it does make sense. Anyways.
Do you have a long family history of severe allergic reactions to things in the vaccines? That is my main concern.

Sarh - posted on 01/04/2011

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Thanks Felicia, after reading Jennifer's post I talked to my fiance about doing 1 or 2 at a time so if he does have anymore reactions we can pin point what vaccine caused the reaction. He is fine with doing that for that reason along with there being antibiotics in the immunizations (even though it is a small trace amount) there are allergies to antibiotics on both my side and my fiancee's side. My mom, my brother, my daughter, myself, My fiancee and his mother (he is an only child). If my fiancee is given amoxocillin it can kill him! I'm allergic to penicillin, etc. I'm not sure what antibiotics are in which shots, but I am going to look that up as well.
I'm glad you reported that nurse, she would have gotten her head bit off by my fiancee and I! On reason I hate clinics.
I would much rather my bubby get the chicken poxs naturally too! Chicken poxs are not deadly until you are much older!

Jennifer - posted on 01/03/2011

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here's an example of how we did it:
for his 12 month check up, he was scheduled to have the MMR, varicella, pneumoccol, hepatitis A, and the combined flu/swine flu (yes, they wanted FIVE vaccines in one visit). the day of his check up he had the MMR, then a month later we went back and he got the flu shot (because my father has a compromised immune system so it is recommended that we all get the shot). we will be going back for the pneumococcal vaccine in a week. the Hep A vaccine we were told would be fine if we waited on. Hep A is most commonly spread by contaminated food...most commonly restaurant food...my son won't be eating restaurant food anytime soon so we are waiting until he's a little older, and his system is better equipped to handle the vaccine.

Sarh - posted on 01/03/2011

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Thanks Jennifer, I don't find the Varicella to be necessary either. My daughter had no problems with the chicken poxs.

When you say one at a time do you mean doing them separately (the ones that can be separated) or doing one at each visit?

I know there will probably not be anyone on here who is a vaccine expert and I'm glad you wouldn't feel comfortable either... I wasn't sure if I was being worrisome or something.

Jennifer - posted on 01/03/2011

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our son is nearly 14 months. we are skipping varicella, at least for right now. our plan is that if he doesn't get the chicken pox by the time he is school age, then we will consider it but right now it really isn't necessary.

other than that, we are getting all the vacs but we are not doing more than one shot at a time. some vacs, like the MMR are combined and cannot be ordered separately but when we can, its one at a time.

i'll be honest though, i'm not a vaccine expert. with your family history of allergies, i would definitely not feel comfortable getting more than one vaccine at a time...that way if he does have a reaction, you know what it is to. i do reccomend "The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316017...

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