Has anyone regretted their decision not to vaccinate?

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This is not meant to be a debate about whether or not to vaccinate. I am just curious to see what everyone else's experience is, because it seems to me that there are plenty of parents out there who regret fully or partially vaccinating but I am yet to come across someone who has regretted not vaccinating.
Furthermore, it seems that those choosing not to vaccinate seem to be highly educated despite the media making them out to be stupid, ignorant and irresponsible. What is your experience?

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Educated Father Of 1 Beautiful Little - posted on 06/12/2013

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LO was born in July of 2012. We opted out of vaccinating after intensive research and self-educating. To this day, (She'll be 1 yr old in 1 month and 7 days) She has never been sick once. Not one fever, not one ear infection, not one detrimental health issue, what so ever. She is fully breastfeed, which by human nature, gives entirely enough structure to build and form a proper immune system, without lab created poisons. We do not plan to vaccinate at all and are more than satisfied with this decision. I hope this helps some of the "on the fence" mothers and fathers and promotes personal education on this matter. Many of my close friends and families children are constantly in and out of hospice and doctor care at such a young age, and being formula feed around other sick children is not the only culprit for this.. Its the big pharmacy vaccines that are intentionally poisoning these children's immune system. I really hope this helps and answers your question. No regret what so ever.

Marjie - posted on 11/06/2013

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My daughter is fully vaccinated according to the CDC schedule. She suffered no adverse reactions to the shots but a little redness and swelling that subsided after a day or two. She hardly ever gets sick and the few colds she has had have been very mild. So there's my anecdote. It's ultimately meaningless in this vaccine "debate" and if you don't know why, then you don't actually understand how science works. So, go vaccinate your kids.

Porter - posted on 09/30/2013

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Great topic!
I have 6 kids (30-14 yrs old) who were never vaccinated. For lot of reasons, of course, but mostly it didn't make sense to inject our tiny babies with toxins, the effects of which weren't fully understood. Partner and I felt very strongly that we had to work that much harder to maintain healthy, low-stress and happy lifestyle for the kids.
They are, without exception, the healthiest and most robust young people I know.
I've never been %100 confident about our decision, but I've never been sorry, either.
It isn't easy, either way.

Lucy - posted on 04/11/2013

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I know many who now regret vaccinating, but I've never heard it the other way around.

Jacqui - posted on 05/22/2013

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I have a 13 year old who was last vaccinated at 4 years old, and a 9 year old who has severe autism who was last vaccinated at 2. Neither of my children have died or become ill with anything other than a cold since stopping. They used to get ear infections and I had to bring them to the pediatrician a lot back when we were vaccinating. I was on the other side of the debate thinking there were terrible non vaccinating parents in the world but then watched my children's health slowly decline and realized it was all due to the vaccines. I got informed and have never regretted my decision not to harm my children. I will also take my chances with "deadly" diseases rather than purposely give my kids chronic diseases that they will have to suffer with forever. I just wish I had been informed sooner, then maybe my child could speak a word or go to the bathroom on the potty or have a bowel movement without a colonic.

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Sian_yong - posted on 11/01/2016

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I am sure there is a lot of confused parents here and I hope to offer an alternative view on the 'all-so-popular' medical science out there. I am not trained in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM, accupunture and stuff) but I am blessed to have a local TCM physician who knows his stuff well enough to provide great medical advice & treatment for me & my family. From what I have seen, visiting him and seeing TCM in action on uncountable patients, it got me very interested in this system and I have started to read up books etc to gain a fuller understanding of this system.
And here is my viewpoint. From TCM perspective, vaccination came from a very zoomed-in perspective of human body, in particular – the virus/bacteria infection. The problem that I have (after understanding another medical system that has been proven to work, despite mainstream skepticism) with our modern medical view, is that it is very good at labelling detailed problems, reducing puzzles into segregated pieces whilst ignoring the relationship between these bits. Sorry, if I have lost you there. Now, lets talk about the importance of virus/bacteria infection. Ever since the discovery of them (and the microscope to observe their behavior), we have been so held-up with what they can do that we forgot the basis of health, our own body immunity. Is it a right thing to eliminate them in the first place? Nobody has asked this before. Look at how antibiotics has progress up-to-date and we know that something is wrong with this system. TCM knew the existence of these microorganism and even acknowledges that "Pathogen Invasions" is one of the many key factors to being ill, yet, TCM has never attempted to kill off any particular virus/bacteria. Why? Because the key is not to isolate and kill them but to live with them in harmony. It is about the balance. So long as your system is in balance, a little bit of virus infection (regardless of how deadly it can be) will be ok, because it will not have any chance to procreate and grow further. Imagine this scenario. You have a garden and on one of the tree, started to grow fungus. You have a couple of options, the easy way out is to spray pesticide on it, killing the fungus but also causing health damage to your plant. Will you kill the tree itself? Yes, you might if you use too much of pesticide. Next thing to think about the risk of another fungus attack. The thing is, you can be almost assured of another fungus attack because 'the fungus infection does not make the tree ill. The tree is already ill, therefore the fungus attack' – means to say that perhaps we need to examine the condition the tree is living in. Is it too wet? Not enough sunlight? The soil has too much of certain mineral? Etc. The same go with human body. Instead of zooming in and focusing on certain virus/bacteria, we can do better if we observe the macro-environment. Are the food we taking making our internals too dry/wet? Are we staying in a place with enough sunlight? Are we taking too much of mineral that our body cannot flush out? It's a pity because modern medicine never look at these, ever since we miraculously found viruses and blame everything on them.
The reality is, there are billions of virus/bacteria and we can never ever get rid of them. Almost all of them will cause certain illnesses in us, whether it is fatal or otherwise. Also, do not forget the dynamism in this microorganism community. When you wipe-out a certain group, another group will become dominant and when not kept in check, will attack human. Some will find ways to evolve & mutate. There are reports now out there saying that the more we shoot ourselves up with flu-shot, the easier we are susceptible to common cold. Why? The logic can only be explain using the antibiotic-dilemma analogy. Our usage of vaccine, will one day become similar with antibiotics, where we eventually ran out of options. In vaccines case, our babies will be 'mandatory' vaccinated with up to 100 types of vaccines before they are even 2 years old. Why? Because each and everyone of these vaccines target a very-specific virus/bacteria deemed fatal to babies.
Am I suggesting that everyone should refuse vaccination? No. Just like pesticide, you can use sometimes but don’t go crazy over it. It is harming your overall immunity by creating an imbalance in your system, that's what I believe. Some countries have come to a point where there is so many mandatory vaccines that you don’t know which is important anymore. Choose those less controversial ones and vaccinate your babies with it but for others, you will probably do fine without them. Good luck, god bless.

Rubylee - posted on 10/27/2016

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I do not regret my decision to not vaccinate my child. There were many reasons for this decision and my partner and i did not make it on a whim either. First off i when i was born i had a severe reqction to the pertussus portion of the DPT vaccine... I had grand mal seizures anf had to be on tegretol and phenobarbitol until i was 2 and i had absent seizures up until i was 15. Im lucky the seizures were the only thing i suffered and that i went through those as long as i did and somehow didnt suffer brain damage or die as a result of them. When my daughter was born, she was a month early... After years and years of med school and a masters in pharmacology, i wasnt going to play russian roulette with her immune system! After the reaction to the DPT that i had, i sure as hell wasnt going to risk the same thing happening to my daughter, seeing as how drug allergies can be hereditary. In my years of studying every medication under the sun, their uses and chemical make up... I know all too well what vaccines can do to a developing immune system. People who say there is no proof that vaccines are harmful, have clearly been misguided. A dear friend of mine had a beautiful baby boy a few years back... His development was perfect and he was a model for what a healthy baby should be. Well, after they went to get his DPT and MMR they noticed some extremely frightening side effects within hours! First he slept for soooo long and it took alot to wake him. He stopped progressing... He was starting to say mama and daddy and a few other words and one day after his vaccines he stopped talking. 2 days after receiving the vaccines he began to cry uncontrollably and the only way to get him to stop was to run warm water over his butt. He has been diagnosed with autism and even his doctors agree it was due to the vaccines. I myself have chosen to not vaccinate my child period, but i dont expect every parent to do the same and i certainly dont pass judgement or condemn them for it! We all just try to do this whole parenting thing the best we know how and our ideas, gut feelings, intuition and parenting methods are bound to differ. I DO support vaccines... But only certain ones and AFTER the age of two when the immune system has had time to develop and mature. Science will tell you that bombarding an immune system that has not fully developed or had time to mature is a very risky thing to do! I dont agree with alot of vaccines out today like vaccines for chickenpox, HPV (which the vaccines for hpv have caused infertility and/or cervical cancer in about 28% of children who receive it), and hepatitis to name a few. But again, thats just me. I do what i think is best for MY child because i know my child better than anyone else on this planet and i have a direct link to her... Just as i do what is best for her, i know other moms base their decisions on what is best for THEIR children and for the same reasons. We have no right criticizing how others raise their kids... Especially when it comes to our childrens healthcare! So keep that in mind when leaving comments on sensitive subjects! It doesent matter what you decide so long as you have your childs best interest in mind. If it feels right in your heart, whether its to vaccinate, not vaccinate or to vaccinate sparingly.. then go with it! My best friend vaccinates her child only with what she thinks is necessary... Ofcorse drs have tried to sway her decisions but she has stood strong and her LO is happy and healthy as is she. Good luck with everything and i hope my input helped a little lol

Landee - posted on 09/10/2016

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I vaccinated my first two w regret. They were very ill. Chronic ear infects and asthma. My non vaccinated was never sick until he received a dtap after a scooter accident. Then he went into anaphylaxis. Vaccines are FULL of poison. And do not work.

Snow - posted on 06/28/2016

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I have never regretted vaccinating my daughter; not vaccinating seems utterly foolish to me. Despite all the nonsense surrounding the contents of vaccines, it remains fact that most vaccines do not contain any horrible chemicals that will harm your child or that they won't be exposed to on a daily basis in concentrations far exceeding that which would be contained in a single vaccine dose. To those who claim that vaccines contribute to the odds of your child developing autism, this is more nonsense. To make a well-informed decision based on the results of a study, you need to read more than just the conclusion/results section of the study. In fact, before believing any study proves what it claims to, it is crucial to examine the methodologies used to come to those conclusions. In the case of the study that claimed to prove a link between autism and vaccines, the methodologies are completely bogus and do not prove anything. In my opinion, not vaccinating your children is negligent and potentially dangerous not only to your own children, but also everyone else. By not vaccinating your children, you are reducing herd immunity and putting everyone at risk. As you should when making any important decision, you need to do actual research, not just allow yourself to be swayed by popular propaganda and alarmist extremists. When in doubt, look at the research; find studies that used methods that actually prove what they are claiming. After all, claiming that vaccines are causing autism is kind of like claiming that children are being potty trained later because more people have stainless steel appliances in their home; if you are only considering incidence and no other factors, then it might seem related, but obviously they have nothing to do with eachother.

I think anyone who hasn't vaccinated, whose child later contracts an illness that should have been preventable by the administration of a vaccine, should regret their decision. Not vaccinating is kind of like playing the lottery with your child's health and life; I'm sure many people who dont vaccinate are lucky enough not to contract the preventable illnesses being that we live in developed countries, but that doesn't mean everyone is so lucky. Why risk something that you value so much?

Here are some resources to help:
https://www.vaccines.gov/more_info/features/five-important-reasons-to-vaccinate-your-child.html
http://www.immunizeforgood.com/fact-or-f...
http://www.parenting.com/article/10-vacc...
http://www.nfid.org/about-vaccines/reaso...

Alexia6665306189 - posted on 02/20/2016

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I know this post is old, but I have never regretted not vaccinating my daughter, and sons.

Yoori - posted on 10/24/2015

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I really wanted to read some genuine experience comments.. and clearly Lucy has some sort of social behavioral disorder, I respect personal beliefs but thsi is very very annoying typical cancerous cell like behavior online..

I have vaccinated my children. My daughter had/still have borderline autism. I do not blame it on vaccine. If you want to blame it on it for your piece of mine sake, go for it.
We simply changed lifestyle, more time with them, less technology, healthy relationship, understanding exercises and guidance to their behavior. It is a battle at times but my daughter has improved significantly. From readinf level zero in grade one to above average in half a year after we changed our lifestyle, made friends, no longer hides from people and most of all happy.
I am a strong believer that our lifestyle and early parental relationship influence kids personality. Irs not because we are not good parents, we just have to find the right way to deal with these individual beautiful souls. In saying that, I understand there are very true cases of autism spectrum. But from what I have seen, the autism rate is over rated.

Back to vaccination, don't every think you are free from those diseases, your child might grow up and wamt to got to those countries that still have horrible diseases, or meet someone with it, who cares how, and your health is your responsibility but oh God I hope you don't pass it onto other fragile people who just didn't have a choice (ppl from 3rd war country, infants etc)

Liz - posted on 10/20/2015

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Absolutely NOT. In fact, I see the evidence all around me. I don't personally know one single person who has not vaccinated and regretted it. I know a 60 year old man who has never been immunized and is the picture of health. Yet, I see SO many illnesses in vaccinated children all around that are known to be linked with possible vaccine injury. I also personally know MANY mothers who have regretted vaccinating. We are not in a third world country. We are well above herd immunity. We do NOT have a public health crisis. If people want to vaccinate, no one is stopping them. Mostly because it is big business and it's being pushed on us. If you really want to educate yourself on the dangers of vaccines and how natural immunity works, you should definitely listen to talks by Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Dr. Russell Blaylock.

Skynoor2010 - posted on 10/13/2015

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I went through a similar experience as yours of feeling worried and hesitant about my decision of not vaccinating my baby. Everyone around me is just blaming me for it. Finally to be in peace of mind I decided to give her one shot of 5 in 1 vaccine. I regretted doing so since my child suffered from a bad time of breathing and took much long time to overcome flu and cold.

Ella - posted on 06/20/2015

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Hi All,

I'm a brand new mother of my 3months old beautiful a little girl Holly. I come from a healthy Polish family where I grew up running around the fields and forests, eating organic fruit and veg, my favourite sauerkraut and many other fermented/pickled vegetables or natural raspberry juices that my mother prepared during the summer for long and cold winters. You would rearely see us eating chips or any other fast food. I was fully vaccinated as my parents are very straight forward people that were simply doing what doctors told them to do. I was never badly sick or don't have any allergies etc The father of Holly, my partner is Irish and he is full on against all the vaccines, doctors etc He also comes from healthy eating family but he wasn't as fully vaccinated as I was, not really sure what vaccines he was given but again healthy, great looking man. So after longer research he decided that he does not want to poison our baby girl and no vaccines will be give to her. We are now after missing on BCG and 6in1 + PCV and I was trying to convince myself too but it's so hard as all the doctors tell me that my baby will get TB for definite, my baby's midwife is always trying to convince us on how small amount of people are not vaccine their babies and that we are simply wrong. I decided to go with the flow and with every vaccine time to go through it very carefully, read about it and be 100% either I want it or not. We've done a massive research on BCG and after reading that Sweden and a few other countries have eliminated this vaccine out of their program I was happy enough to skip it. The next one 6in1 + PCV Has confused me so much that I've lost an interest in reading about it as it appears to be against so many different diseases, viruses that I've never heard off and terms and definitions that are used to describe the diseases are beyond my knowledge. I was hoping to come across somebody that did not vaccine their baby and now that baby is a healthy adult with no problems and that parents of that now adult have no regrets whatsoever! It is so hard to compare this day and age to what I grew up in as none of the veggies no longer taste as I remember, I can't see the difference between organic and just standard as I'm simply looking for that taste that I remember as a little girl that was eating radishes and carrots straight out of the garden. I can't find it in any of the shops or farm markets.. Strawberries are hard and tasteless, apples, plums, peaches, apricots nothing is the same.. How is my baby going to grow up healthy on all these paper structured fruit & veg?! The other concern that I have is the fact that I stopped breastfeeding after nearly 2months, I wasn't even fully breastfeeding but giving both, formula & breast milk as I didn't have enough Milk in my breasts. Probably because I started off formula as my baby was stressing over not being fully fed at the beginning when colostrum was turning into milk, 2 weeks after the birth I started to run to the gym etc and it was easier to give formula so my system wasn't producing as much as I was given half & half. Then I gave up after over 2 months on breastfeeding completely as obviously it was much easier for Holly to drink out the bottle than out of breast and I hated using my Mandela Breast Pump, it was taking forever and I didn't find it easy at all. So my concern is.. Is it good enough for my 3months old that been half breast fed for over 2 months not to be vaccinated? Is her immune system going to be strong enough to protect against diseases and other illnesses during her whole life time? My parents encourage me to vaccine our baby, so are my partner's parents. It is so hard to go against everyone and be confident with your decision when everyone is against you!
I loved your comment MsMolly, people like you make me believe that we are going to be ok.

Lucy, I would love your opinion too as you seem to be well educated individual.
I also wanted to add that we recently introduced our baby to a little teaspoon of Sauerkraut juice once a day to boost her immune system with natural probiotic in it. Besides that she only got shot of vitamin K straight after being born and now I'm giving her vitamin D3. She has bad reflux and every feed was like a nightmare cuz it was pointless after her throwing everything up so my GP gave me Gaviscon Infant but we decided not to use it as I'm trying to stay away from all the medicines in this age. I started to give her anti-reflux milk and I see an improvement but I won't be on it for ages either, simplest the better! Now Holly has a little bit of cold and I'm staying away from all them Nurofen cough bottles etc but how long can I continue this? What's healthy these days and what's out there just to continue making the owners of pharmaceutical companies richer & richer?

Looking forward to your reply. Thanks for reading! X

Marie - posted on 03/04/2015

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Here is my question to all you anti-vacciners. Without referring to the oh so popular, oh so smart "Dr. Google" I would like to hear you explain the physiology behind vaccinations ie. what type of immune response is targeted, what cells are being targeted, what the net result of vaccinations are.

Lucy - posted on 02/10/2015

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The longer you spend educating yourself on vaccines the less likely you will be to vaccinate

Lucy - posted on 02/10/2015

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Daveandlynseymorrow,

Just because your child seems fine now, vaccine damage sometimes takes months or even years to appear. e.g. Diabetes Type 1, MS, Leukemia, Asthma etc

Daveandlynseymorrow - posted on 02/08/2015

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Our baby was born early with a lot to medical conditions. We thought that we would lose her. She survived, we got her vaccinated and she thrived. She is now nearly 10 and is a year above her age group academically and is rarely ill. Just saying

Lucy - posted on 10/23/2014

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Ashley,

You are right, there are people who will profit greatly from Ebola, there'll be a lot of taxpayers money diverted towards it, some people will be rubbing their hands together. It would have been very easy to stop it in it's tracks at the start using isolation, the same way as Small Pox was eventually eradicated.

In Africa Ebola is so much worse than it would be in the First World, this is because victims have often had to walk for miles to their nearest hospital and are dehydrated. If Ebola does ever arrive on US shores and anyone here ever is unlucky enough to catch it the best tips are to keep yourself well-hydrated and to take high-dose Vitamin C i.e. it's antiviral. Avoid immune system suppressants such as Tylenol / Paracetamol.

The Ebola vaccine will no doubt be incredibly dangerous, especially because it will come from the usual suspects with their reputation of inducing highly profitable autoimmune diseases via vaccine. It will also be relatively untested and rushed to market (like the Swine Flu jab)

Ashbert13 - posted on 10/17/2014

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Hey Lucy, do you think the ebola here is another opportunity for big pharma to score big time? You must think they are really cashing in now! The thought struck me, and I just had to come back in and ask if your conspiracy theories cover that area too.

Lucy - posted on 08/18/2014

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K,

Using you and your husband as a study gives a sample size of 2, this is not statistically significant, your study does not show that vaccines are safe, effective or necessary.

In fact the flu vaccine is one of the worst, it doesn't normally even work and when it does it's often for a different strain. The best ways to keep a strong immune system are through healthy eating, exercise, Sunlight and by avoiding immune system suppressants such as Tylenol (Paracetamol) and Ibuprofen.

Unfortunately good health doesn't come through a needle, but Aluminum does, and it gets stuck in the brain, it's a neurotoxin.

When the internationally renowned, independent and not for profit Cochrane Collaboration reviewed the studies which the pharmaceuticals use to backup their push for flu vaccination, here's what they found (i.e. it's a pack of lies and junk science) :-

"Cochrane Collaboration: Flu Vaccines of No Benefit "

“…industry funded studies were published in more prestigious journals and cited more than other studies…”

“…reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin…”

“…there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions…”

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/876...

Lucy - posted on 08/18/2014

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Hope Momtes,

Back then the US was using the live Polio vaccine which was actually causing Polio, even Jonas Salk himself testified before a Senate subcommittee that nearly all polio outbreaks were caused by the Oral Polio Vaccine.

K - posted on 08/11/2014

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I do not have children, but I can tell you that I've always had the flu vaccination while my husband never has. This past flu season he caught the flu and it completely debilitated him for over a week. He lived on the floor of the bathroom and missed almost two weeks of work. The severity of his sickness is typical of someone who has never received the shots/nasal sprays. I was able to care for him in very close contact and not catch it. Modern vaccines compound on each other to create immunity to current and past strains. I've built up an incredible tolerance over the years. He admitted his mistake and swears to be vaccinated annually from now on.

Hope - posted on 08/09/2014

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OH Lucy. Its people with ridiculous comments like yours that do more for the provaccime movement than I ever could. My grandma was crippled by polio and one of her siblings died. They were both breastfed and both had their tonsils.

Lucy - posted on 06/27/2014

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Clarissa,

That's a pharmaceutical propaganda website, notice the name Paul Offit, his nickname Is Paul 'Profit' Offit because he's made over $20 million from his vaccine patent. The man has a huge conflict of interest, everything he says will be pro-vaccine, he's regularly caught trying to cover-up the known risks of vaccination. He even says that it's safe to have 10,000 vaccines in one go, yet he is unwilling to perform a self-demonstration. Paul Offit is the car salesman of vaccines.

Clarissa - posted on 06/26/2014

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The crazy comment linking polio and HIV? Um, NO. Of course, when you're a conspiracy theorist, thinking big pharma is out to get us all, you'll pretty much believe anything, and won't accept the information coming from people who went to medical school.
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content...

Lucy - posted on 06/19/2014

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User,

There's a miniscule number of people left paralyzed by Polio, but that Polio is being spread by the Oral Polio Vaccine, it's a synthetic form of Polio created in a laboratory. The vaccine needs to be banned!

You say that having Chicken Pox doesn't give you immunity to Shingles, but keep in mind that since Chicken Pox vaccination first began the rate of Shingles has increased hugely, Shingles was normally only an issue with people who were already weak in one way or another, whereas since the vaccine started we're seeing cases of Shingles rising including in perfectly healthy people. So once again we see that trying to play Mother Nature generally doesn't end well.

The Chicken Pox vaccine has killed people and left others disabled, it is not saving lives, it was only ever produced for the immunocompromised which if done correctly could have theoretically been a good thing, but then Big Pharma saw $-signs in their eyes and rolled it out for everyone.

As you can see when we follow through the science and background it's simple to debunk each of the vaccines in the schedule.

User - posted on 06/18/2014

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I don't think the people crippled by Polio would consider it harmless! Having Chicken Pox does not give immunity to Shingles which can be very serious. Don't tell me it's not. I had it. You seem to downplay everything! Anything can be serious with complications. Elderly people and children are especially at risk. Maybe you think that is no big deal as well. You can post whatever you want, but you won't convince me that being sick is better than being well. I agree that having colds is good to build immunity, but not these other diseases. Please don't tell me that Shingles is no big deal or I will post you the photos to prove otherwise. I'm only in my forties and have had it.

Lucy - posted on 06/16/2014

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User,

Polio is a complex story (this doctor explains it all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twch-T-n8Ns ) the majority of people who catch it don't even know they've got it. Most of the small number of people with complications actually fully recover. It is a disease which is spread due to poor sanitation, there were two key factors which turn this normally harmless and unnoticeable childhood illness into one which could on rare occasions be harmful; 1. Not breastfeeding babies, 2. Removing tonsils (tonsils contain Polio antibodies).

The history of the Polio vaccine is a scary one, even the recent history. The former Merck Vaccine Chief admitted that it was contaminated with HIV, that's how HIV was spread around Africa, the Polio vaccine was also found to be contaminated with the SV40 virus, that's the cause of the Cancer known as Non Hodgkin Lymphoma. The Cancer did not exist before that vaccine, SV40 is found is Non Hodgkin tumors.

Even in recent times we've seen serious consequences from Polio vaccine programs, with the vaccine spreading a type of Polio twice as deadly as Polio around India. Researchers have begged for the pharmaceuticals to stop pushing a live virus vaccine; the vaccines are actually the main cause of Polio in the world.

You really have nothing to worry about with Polio unless you're sitting next to someone who's just been vaccinated against it with a live vaccine and you have no tonsils and weren't breastfed, even then it would there would still need to be a sanitation issue as Polio is spread via faeces.

Lucy - posted on 06/16/2014

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User,

Chicken Pox is really not something to be worried about, the only risk of Chicken Pox is if you take Ibuprofen or Aspirin at the same time in which case it can kill you, the worrying thing is that many doctors don't know this, so once again we see that it's actually the incompetence of the pharmaceuticals and the medical profession which is making a normally harmless childhood disease into a dangerous one.

The Chicken Pox vaccine is a live vaccine which can cause and spread the disease itself, the vaccine doesn't always leave you immune to Chicken Pox, on the occasions when it does the immunity will expire after a number of years.

Best to just catch this harmless childhood disease and leave yourself with lifelong immunity, avoid Ibuprofen and Aspirin and all will be well. No dangerous vaccines required.

User - posted on 06/14/2014

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Oh and one one more comment from me...people who say that children get diseases because their parents feed them processed foods must be oblivious to the fact that people got sick and even died back before preservatives, etc were ever used! My mother grew up with the fear of Polio. It was very scary. They grew their own vegetables and killed their own chickens. When the vaccination for Polio became available they were very grateful to have it.

User - posted on 06/14/2014

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Whatever. These diseases are coming back here in the US. I vaccinate my children to protect them from the children who aren't. I had chicken pox as a child but don't remember, but my mom says it was awful. I have just had Shingles and I can say it was disgusting and painful. I have scars now from both illnesses. My children are vaccinated and won't have to go through what I did with Chicken Pox or Shingles!

ANDREA - posted on 06/11/2014

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sorry, that was probably innappropriate. Lucy is speaking from the heart and with accurate information regarding vaccination. I have not been vaccinated, and neither has my son. I have zero regrets! My son was born in the 25 % with a birth defect that required 3 surgeries in the first 3 months of his life to correct. He is now in the 100%, and is rarely sick. I was told he would have constipation issues as a result and would probaby have to go on medication for it. He as not had any problems. I see so many children his age with repeated ear infections, strep thoat, high fevers post vaccinations. Toddlers who are prescribed laxatives to go to the bathroom. Why is this? vaccinations erode their gut flora for one thing, amonst many others. I am fully elated about my choices. Just look around and see how heathy the children are that are lucky enough to not be innocuated!

just google children not vaccinated health, and read the countless stories.... here is a good one!

http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom...

Lucy - posted on 06/07/2014

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Bukola,

Debate is good, science is good, let's not be afraid of what we're doing here or try to shut anyone out, this is an interesting discussion and it's the reason forums like this exist.

Bukola - posted on 06/07/2014

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You guys need to stop replying Lucy, and I think I kind of know that she is hell bent on her mission and I stopped posing not because she convinced me but because I see there is not point arguing with her. We are fine here with the vaccines so good luck to your cause

Lucy - posted on 06/06/2014

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User,

You mention the Hib and Whooping Cough vaccines; the Hib vaccine is the main cause of Diabetes Type 1, so it's clearly doing more harm than theoretical good, as for the Whooping Cough vaccine that's the main cause of Asthma (people die of Asthma every day) and sole cause of Crib Death. Keep in that recent outbreaks of Whooping Cough have been mainly in people who have been vaccinated against Whooping Cough.

The only ones who benefit from vaccine injuries such as Asthma and Whooping Cough are the pharmaceuticals, their profits start to look rather good once the vaccine injuries leave us dependent on drugs for life; that gives them a gross conflict of interest, keep in mind it is only them who 'investigate' the safety of their products.

We need to stop worrying about mild childhood disease and focus on being healthy e.g. breastfeeding our babies, feeding them fruit and veg, not giving them processed foods, bring them up on drinking water. Good health doesn't come through a needle.

User - posted on 06/05/2014

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My son has had Hib and whooping cough. He has had all his vaccines. Vaccines can prevent illnesses or lessen the severity of illness. My son is very athletic and strong, but when he gets sick it becomes serious quickly. Because parents are not vaccinating their children, both Hib and whooping cough returned. When everyone is vaccinated, children who have a more difficult time fighting infections are better protected. His vaccine lessens the severity when he is ill and his piers' vaccines prevent widespread outbreaks.

My son was protected by his vaccinations and recovered. It was a long frightening battle. Yes, he contracted H1N1 too. He just ran a half marathon and graduated from college.

We both get flu shots. A few years ago the flu hit Boston hard. People died. I did get the flu. My doctor asked me to imagine not having the protection of the vaccine. I would have been hit head on by the full force of the illness. Instead, I was home, sick in my bed.

People respond to illness differently. Our immune systems are different and added illnesses like asthma complicate our health.

I am thankful everyday that we were vaccinated. I hope and pray other mothers will not go through the same experience.

MsMolly - posted on 05/30/2014

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Hi, I'm new here. I hope you are still looking for answers to this question:)
I have a 22 year old, a 5 year old and a 3 year old :) Very proud of them all, love them dearly. My 22 year old son was fully vaccinated - that is what I was told to do and there was no internet at that time to know differently. He reacted badly, collapsed in my arms, went limp… he suffered learning and behavioural problems as he grew. He is now a young man, totally disconnected emotionally, he has Aspergers, and I recall the day he suddenly stopped 'looking' at me. I questioned my doctor about the link between the vaccine and why my baby had stopped looking at me, way back then… but my concerns were dismissed. He had once been a very bright, connected little baby, it breaks my heart and always will. Neither my 5 year old or 3 year old are vaccinated - they are beautifully healthy, extremely connected, very bright, they are excelling in all areas of learning, they have no allergies, no behavioural problems. They look at me, they are connected. So to answer your question…. no, I do not regret for one second 'not vaccinating' my two youngest, however I deeply regret every single day of my life, vaccinating my oldest son.

Lucy - posted on 05/21/2014

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Bukola,

In the Third World childhood diseases are more serious, this is due to poor sanitation and malnutrition. There is one vaccine which can be justified in Africa, that is a single Measles vaccine, this has been shown to improve infant mortality. Measles is only a problem in those deficient in Vitamin A, in the well-nourished First World Measles is perfectly safe, if someone has a dietary deficiency provide them with Vitamin A, all is fine.

Many people in Africa will be confused, they will see people go down with Polio and HIV, they think they need help from the West, they don't realize that both the HIV and the Polio came from vaccines. What you need in Africa is not vaccines (apart from single Measles), you need improved sanitation, more food, that is why people are dying from childhood illnesses. Vaccines are not a solution as it is not safe to vaccinate someone who is malnourished, and as has been said before the corporations who make the vaccines have huge conflicts of interest and dirty reputations, so vaccines cannot be trusted at this point in time (unless there's a complete overhaul of the system).

It's been shown that in Africa the Tetanus vaccine actually reduces life expectancy, this is a classic illustration of why we cannot blindly believe in every vaccine, we need to look at the bigger picture, vaccines cannot be a religion (based on belief), use of vaccines has to be based on real science and hard data; assumptions are not good enough.

Lucy - posted on 05/21/2014

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Rebecca,

Childhood illnesses are perfectly natural and if you are healthy and well-nourished then it is vaccines which are by far a bigger risk. I had Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Whopping Cough, so did all my brothers and sisters, we didn't used to worry about these things back then, they were just seen as part of growing up.

Many people are being damaged by vaccines and it's generally profitable diseases which are being induced by the vaccines e.g. Diabetes Type 1, Asthma and MS. This give the pharmaceuticals a huge conflict of interest; vaccine damage is actually a bonus for their bank balance, especially as they do not have to legally pay compensation for harm caused. Until these goal-posts are moved and unless the so-called science being used to back-up vaccines is improved; vaccines are simply not worth the risk.

Nobody here would allow their child to go on a rollercoaster ride with a 1 in 50 chance of inducing lifelong autoimmune disorder, so educated and informed parents will certainly not be risking their children to the disease lottery of vaccination.

Bukola - posted on 05/21/2014

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Lucy,
I am not saying that the west cares anything for us at all, in fact i think they always want something in return when they are professing to help you that aside, you are hell bent on making vaccines as evil as possible. you will be surprised that we are not as helpless as we are portrayed in the news and a lot of people here are actually more informed than most of u are, not trying to insult anyone.
Am not talking about facts or anything am just talking about evidence, we see the patients and we see the statistics of who its benefits and who it doesn't.
What exactly do you do, have u been to Africa before, seen these diseases before and treated these patients. A ll i see is you giving a lot of facts and figures about stuff. Maybe try to experience it if you are not.
When we watch these your arguments from here we all come to one conclusion: You Guys have are full, no hunger, no worries, so you create problems, its like you are all bored or something.

We would give anything to be a preventable disease free country, if you guys want it then its your choice.

Rebecca - posted on 05/21/2014

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Thank you for your perspective! Too many of we Americans have no understanding that common childhood illnesses we have eradicated here are gone PRECISELY because we immunized against them. Thank you for reminding us of the bigger, world-wide picture.

Lucy - posted on 05/21/2014

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Bukola,

In the West more people are realizing that the multinational corporations are simply after money; the pharmaceuticals make more money when we are sick. They spread propaganda to make themselves sound like the saviors, that is because they need to you to accept their jabs, they need you to trust in them. Keep in mind that HIV is in Africa due to a contaminated vaccine (as admitted by the former Merck Vaccine Chief), UNICEF have been caught sterilizing with vaccines in Africa, Africa is also used as a testing ground for new drugs and vaccines as if there is a problem it is a lot easier to keep out of the international news.

You mention Polio, I'd recommend looking into the history of Polio as you'll find that Polio was renamed to make the vaccine look a success. In fact the Polio vaccine spreads a type of Polio twice as deadly as normal Polio. Vaccines have not eradicated any disease, some people have been misled to believe that Small Pox was eradicated because of vaccines, actually that is not true, it was only quarantine which eventually eradicated Small Pox.

Unfortunately the rather sad reality is that in 2014 vaccines are being used to spread/induce disease and thereby increase pharmaceutical profits. The people who rule the West do not care for you as much as you think they do, they are not nice, kind or caring; they are quite the opposite. The marketing you see is simply propaganda.

Bukola - posted on 05/21/2014

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I am a doctor in Nigeria and when i read through this post i realized something that you western countries are just to full of it, am sorry to say. do u know the reason why you don't have must of this infections in your countries, or why they are not very fatal because you were all vaccinated in the first place, am sure a lot of you have never seen a child with polio before. You are in the list of polio free countries because someone those years and years ago thought you all should be vaccinated. we are still fighting with polio here because some areas cant get the vaccine or are not readily available to a lot.
With the availability of the vaccine esp in our cities, we all immunize our children here, all of us, even in the small villages people painstakingly make sure they get their children immunize. Am not saying there is no autism here but not seen one related to vaccine yet. Th e worst i have seen is fever and that usually with DPT. Vaccination is not an option in this part of the world it is a norm and we are fine with it.

You all over-think everything and probably because u have too much. Look at the facts a lot of you have not seen most of the diseases before, i have seen a lot of it, n why do u think you haven't, a doctor friend of mine in the US said she has not seen measles rashes before except in the text book which made me laugh, even now its reducing in our cities more and more because we don't compromise on vaccination. NOW THAT MOST OF THESE DISEASES HAVE BEEN REDUCED AND ERADICATED BY VACCINE THEY ARE SUDDENLY EVIL.
Wont it be ironic to see you western countries start having all these diseases you were free of and us third world countries be free of it.

Amy - posted on 05/20/2014

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How are you trying to tell her what doctors from HER country say ... No offense but I think she may know better than you what they say.

Amy - posted on 05/20/2014

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I love how she clearly wrote "not meant to be a debate" and asked if anyone has regretted not vaccinating. She didn't ask if your happy you vaccinated or if your happy you didn't vaccinate , she asked if anyone didn't get their child vaccinated and regretted it .

Lucy - posted on 05/19/2014

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This is very sad, but it's an important issue so let's look at some reasons why parents strongly regret vaccinating their children

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfVOtvvvIV0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG2fXNg7j88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMh5EaeLFMU

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