Vaccinations

Helena - posted on 02/05/2009 ( 16 moms have responded )

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I have a 6 week old and am very concerned about vaccanations. my husband and I dont want to not vaccanate but are not to sure about over vaccanating. Could any mommies out there help us? Thank you in advance! There is so much contoversy and information that I am overwhelmed about it!

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Quoting Miranda:



I would check your local schools too - some require certain shots before your child can enter Kindergarten.





Local public schools cannot require any shots before your child can enter school. Every state has exemptions for parents who choose not to vaccinate. This website has a lot of information about your legal rights and how to obtain an exemption is you do not want to immunize your child.



http://thinktwice.com/laws.htm

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Rachel - posted on 09/09/2009

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Quoting Maia:



Quoting Miranda:




I would check your local schools too - some require certain shots before your child can enter Kindergarten.









Local public schools cannot require any shots before your child can enter school. Every state has exemptions for parents who choose not to vaccinate. This website has a lot of information about your legal rights and how to obtain an exemption is you do not want to immunize your child.






http://thinktwice.com/laws.htm





Another good place to find exemptions by state is here:  http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-v...

Rachel - posted on 09/09/2009

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We do not vaccinate at all and to list all the reasons why would take me hours to type it all. If you want more information, please let me know - I'm glad to get you a bunch more. I researched this EXTENSIVELY for about 200 hours when my son was born.

First, Read the book "Vaccines: Are they really safe and effective?" by Neil Z. Miller. He is a medical research journalist and this book contains over 900 sources from medical literature talking about the diseases and the vaccines. It's a rather thin book but its packed to the hilt with information. I'll write where my research started, then leave you some links.

I got this from my chiropractor. Quite interesting... vaccines are a MAJOR form of toxicity in our country. It's made by a company called Koren Publishing. There's one MAJOR POINT I want to add. Vaccines arent thimerosal free like they say they are! The vaccines are STILL MADE with thimerosal, but it is chemically extracted. However, you cant chemically extract 100% of an ingredient. Because there is LESS, they dont have to mention it on their ingredient list. But it's still there. Along with the following:

Ammonium Sulfate
Suspected gastrointestinal, liver, nerve and respiratory system poison.

Beta-propilactone
Known to cause cancer, suspected gastrointestinal, liver, respiratory, skin and sense organ poison

Genetically modified yeast, animal, bacterial and viral DNA
Can be incorporated into the recipient's DNA and cause genetic mutations.

Latex Rubber
Can cause life-threatening allergic reactions

Monosodium glutamate (MSG)
Being studdied for mutagenic, teratogenic (developmental malformation and monstrosities) and reproductive effects. A neurotoxinAllergic reactions range from mild to severe.

Aluminum
Implicated as a cause of brain damage, suspected factor in alzeheimers, dementia, seizures and comas. Allergic reactions can occur on skin.

Formaldehyde
Major constituent of embalming fluid; poisonous if ingested. Probable carcinogen; suspected gastrointestinal, liver, immune system, nerve, reproductive system and respiratory poison. Linked to lukemia, brain, colon and lymphatic cancers. (So toxic that when working with it, you must have your face covered so you dont breathe in too many of the fumes... and we're injecting ourselves with it.)

Micro-Organisms
Live and killed viri and bacteria or their toxins. The polio vaccine was contaminated with a monkey virus now turning up in human bone, lung lining, brain tumors and lymphomas.

Polysorbate 80
Known to cause cancer in animals

Tri(n)butylphosphate
Suspected nerve and kidney poison

Glutaraldehyde
Poisonous if injected. Causes birth defects in experimental animals

Gelatin
Produced from pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-minerialized cattle bones and pork skin. Allergic reactions have been reported.

Gentamicin sulfate and polymyxin B
Allergic reactions can range from mild to life threatening.

Mercury (Thimerosal)
One of the most poisonous substances known. Has an affinity for the brain, gut, liver, bone-marrow and kidneys. Minute amounts can cause nerve damage. Symptoms of mercury toxocity are similar to those of autism.

Neomycin Sulfate
Interferes with Vitamin B6 absorption. An error in the update of B6 can cause a form of epilepsy and mental retardation. Allergic reactions can be mild to life-threatening.

Phenol / phenoxyethanol (2-pe)
Used as an antifreeze. Toxic to all cells and cabable of disabling the immune system's primary response mechanism.

Human and animal cells
Human cells from aborted fetal tissue and human albumin. Pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, guinea pig, dog kidney, cow heart, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf serum, sheep blood and others.

" A major cause of the roman empire's decline after 6 centuries of world dominance was its replacement of stone aqueducts by lead pipes for the transport and supply of drinking water. Roman engineers, the best in the world, turned their fellow citizens into neurological cripples. Today, our own "best and brightest" with the best of intentions, achieve the same end through childhood vaccination programs yeilding the modern scourges of hyperactivity, learning disabilities, autism, appetite disorders, and impulsive violence."
-Harris L. Coulter, Ph. D
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Okay, everyone. We know all about the toxic ingredients in vaccines. We have all heard about the mercury / autism debate. What we havent covered is what a vaccine actually DOES to your body.

This is not just speculation from my limited high school biology background. This information comes from a chiropractor here in Colorado Springs who periodically does information sessions for the community on the effects of vaccines. If anyone is near Colorado Springs and would like to know when the next session is, please message me and let me know. It is great information.

In laymans terms, the immune system has two facets. There is the cellular response to viruses and disease, and there is the antibody response. The cellular response recieves diseases naturally, has time to recognize, process and weaken the diseases before passing the information off to the antibody response. Then the antibody response kicks in and creates memory cells that recognize the disease and remembers how to fight it for next time. These two facets MUST be in balance or the immune system becomes damaged permanently.

Here's the thing. Were you to get a disease or virus NATURALLY, your body would use all its natural defenses to receive it, weaken it and fight it off before the antibody response starts. It'd have to pass your skin, your stomach lining, your lungs, etc - all the natural defenses our bodies have BEFORE showing up in the blood stream. But when you inject a vaccine into your system, you are bypassing ALL your body's natural defenses and forcing your body's antibody response to shoot through the roof.

This causes the cellular response to weaken.

The more you vaccinate, the weaker your cellular response becomes.

Eventually it will shut down and make you more suseptible to diseases because your body wont recognize a disease or fight it off until its too late - the antibody response is trained to be in supermode. The cellular response goes, "what we were doing before obviuosly didnt work since it made it into the blood stream without us knowing about it, so there's no point in trying anymore." ESPECIALLY in newborn babies and infants, we are training their immune systems FROM THE BEGINNING to operate un-naturally.

A few more things to keep in mind. Vaccines have to be cultured on live tissue. They are cultured on monkeys, dogs, cows, pigs, etc. There are also 13 vaccines currently on the market that are cultured on aborted human fetal tissue. For me as a christian, that was a huge deal. Now, for those that are cultured on a foreign agent such as a monkey kidney, the virus's RNA will take the form of the monkey's DNA which morphs the original virus into an entirely new disease. The thing is this: a monkey's DNA and a human's DNA are 99.9% alike. BUT that .1% is the difference between a monkey and a human!!! So to get a vaccine that is 99.9% like the original means the difference between two completely diametrically different things. When you inject something into yourself that has taken the form of a monkey, your body can not process it the same that a naturally occuring human disease would.

He also said this: a "long term study" is defined by the CDC and the FDA...

as 14 days.

Not years. Not decades, not even months! 14 days. Which, by the way, is less time than the flu incubates in your body before showing symptoms. Imagine the effects that a convoluted monkey / human disease will take - decades later!!! Back in the 60's and 70s the polio vaccine was made on monkey tissue which contained a monkey disease called SV40. SV40 is now known to cause ALL KINDS of cancer. Breast cancer, bone cancer, lung cancer, brain cancer, etc. And the scary thing: it crossed the plancental barrier and is causing cancer and diabetes in kids now. They are saying it will take up to 5 GENERATIONS to get all that thing out of our systems.

Who is to say that they "fixed" that with modern vaccines? They are still using monkeys, cows, etc. for culturing diseases. Oh and aborted babies. (Aborted fetal tissue)

Several of the CDC and the FDA members that vote on the vaccines being given on the market today own patents for them. The CDC allows members THREE conflict of interest WAIVERS every year. No questions asked. Is public health REALLY their only concern?

One more thing and I'll be done. Therer is NO LONGER independent medical research firms. They are all dummy companies for the big pharmaceutical corporations. AND, anyone in a scientific field will tell you that if you have an agenda, you can twist "results" to your liking. If a dummy company does "research" on a vaccine or pill and comes up with results that the big company didnt like, they FIRE the head researcher and replace him with someone that will give them the results they want. This is business. Not health.

Thats all - I hope this helps!

Rachel


Here are a few links (endorsed by my chiropractors and homeopath dr so they aren't just hogwash on the internet).

insidevaccines.com/wordpress - this one uses ALL pharmaceutical and medical record information. Very enlightening.
www.909shot.com
www.thinktwice.com

Molly - posted on 06/30/2009

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mothering is a great resource!!!!! lots of helpful mamas.

I also liked the book Natural Baby which covers everything and a nice easy to understand one about vaxing.

What I did was made a list of the diseases that most scared me. then went through and figured out how likely they are to happen, what happens if you do, and how you get them in the first place..

then from there i choose which ones to opt out of, which ones to put on the 'do later ' list and which ones to do now.

Sandra - posted on 06/24/2009

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I spread mine out a LOT: http://geriatricmama.wordpress.com/alter...


Mine are even spread more than this Dr. Bob schedule. Actually, I haven't taken my last baby back since 9 months. I'm also getting the MMR shots sent to me separately when she's four. We never get the flu or chicken pox vax's, and until they perfect the Gardisil, my girls will not be human experiments on that either.



Good luck!

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i loved the Vaccine Book by dr. sears. it was very informative and straight-forward, not overly opinionated or trying to push one side or the other.

we went with the selective schedule from the book and have been happy with it.

i'm often worried though b/c people are so critical of the decision and make me second guess myself...

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We have chosen an alternate schedule because we realize the value of vaccines but are concerned with the ingredients of them. The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears was quite helpful with getting to know each vaccine (what it's for, how it's made, what's in it, etc.) and with an alternate schedule there for you.



We make sure our son is healthy at the time of vaccination (I would postpone at the slightest chance of him being sick) and I feed him vitamins and probiotics according to Dr. Sears' guidelines in the book. You can always choose to get a couple now and others later. Just know that you do have different options other than what the doctors/nurses offer.

Miranda - posted on 04/09/2009

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I would check your local schools too - some require certain shots before your child can enter Kindergarten.

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We stopped vaxing when we found out it was not required by law and we couldn't be punished. I would check out the books Just a Little Prick or What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Vaccinating. Definitely read around more than just the Sears book. Everyone selling a book has an agenda, so read around, research it on your own, and feel free to ask questions.

Leanne - posted on 02/12/2009

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You can always do them later-- you can't ever undo them.  We're taking our time researching them... and DD is now 21mo, lol.  We very well might do a select few later, but I'm glad when we were in that unsure time at almost 2mo DH just said we should wait. 

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Hi,

We chose selective vaccinations. The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears helped us make our decisions on which vaccines to choose.

Sharon - posted on 02/05/2009

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I recommend reading some books on the subject.  Ultimately you have to decide for yourself based on the information available.  I found these to be helpful:



by Randall Neustaedter



by Robert Sears





 

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