?? - posted on 12/07/2009 ( 13 moms have responded )
I was participating in a discussion earlier today and it made quite an interesting turn, I was told "if you dont like the way christians and other americans express their faith in this country..then you are welcome to take your atheist behind elsewhere.." amongst other things...
I thought I would share this wonderful insight with fellow atheists around COM... I have removed her name and I won't reference where it came from or what the original topic is about, I just thought I would share this because honestly, I am finding more and more about it that makes me laugh
Sorry that it's long and if it's hard to follow - it seems like a lot of he said she said bullshit (ha!) but I really didn't want to use names :)
"shit happens" in a thread - the content of the thread is irrelevant.
"Btw..profanity was not necessary to make your point here..and was not appreciated..thanks :)"
"Okay, so you don't appreciate the use of the saying "shit happens"....? Seriously? And you think anyone else is taking something 'too personally'? Really? lol"
"No I dont appreciate vulgar language..I find you can get your point across perfectly fine without it. ........ so anyways you dont need to respond with more profanity or yelling as I dont really want to hear your vulgarity anymore..God bless you and your family and I hope you have a blessed holiday!"
"And to address the "vulgarity"... just as you find the saying "shit happens" as unnecessary, I find your "God bless" comment to be unnecessary. If you "don't really wanna hear your vulgarity anymore"... if THAT is going to be an issue for you... this probably isn't the place for you. I'm not gonna stop saying shit, and I doubt you're gonna stop saying God bless you and all the other religious junk people say because you think you're being nice."
"Well vulgarity happens to be a violation of the circle of moms group including here. So it just shows your ignorance level that you cant seem to communicate without foul language. and you know I dont care if believing in God is offense to you..or anyone else for that matter..this country was built on a belief of God.."in god we trust". and if you dont like the way christians and other americans express their faith in this country..then you are welcome to take your atheist behind elsewhere..no one is making you stay here and pollute this country with your poor attitude and dirty mouth. And if anyone needs the protection and help of the Lord IT IS YOU!!! so again I say GOD BLESS GOD BLESS AND GOD BLESS"
"The difference between you and me is that I really don't care what you say or how you say it, or who you say it too. My point was that just because someone says something, you only control your reaction to it and if you're gonna get butt hurt about someone using the word SHIT then this is probably not the place for you.
I only control my reaction, and not your actions. You saying God bless... I ignore it, because I don't control what you say.......... I only control my reaction, and I choose to ignore those things. You don't even have the maturity level to do that. You choose to react negatively and be offended by something you have no control over...
Which you proved by your incredibly immature and offensive reply. I'm just gonna leave this for the mods and in case you decide to go ahead and delete it, I'll reply with quote so that they do see it.
PS: Obviously you're ignorant ass is too dense to realize that this is an international site... your American crap up there means FUCK all to me, since I'm not American. So my atheist behind is already elsewhere............... and Christians wonder where the initial hesitation comes from, she is a shining example...."
I am not the least bit worried about "moderators" as I have not broken any rules at all. I was not the one who used a single word of vulgarity or attack on a person. Even to refer to someone who has clearly stated that saying God bless is offensive and implying that they are atheist is not as bad as cussing all this and calling someone ignorant.
Holy shit chick... here read what I said again:
And to address the "vulgarity"... just as you find the saying "shit happens" as unnecessary, I find your "God bless" comment to be unnecessary. If you "don't really wanna hear your vulgarity anymore"... if THAT is going to be an issue for you... this probably isn't the place for you. I'm not gonna stop saying shit, and I doubt you're gonna stop saying God bless you and all the other religious junk people say because you think you're being nice.
I said it's unnecessary, I never said it was offensive. And I said that if you're gonna get offended over 1 person using certain mannerisms (cussing, being blunt, not candy coating their thoughts, opinions, etc) but then not curb your own mannerisms that could be considered offensive to others (saying God bless you, imposing your faith on someone) you are a hypocrite.
I don't find it offensive when you say God bless you (the first time), I find it unnecessary. You find it offensive when I cuss. Cussing may be unnecessary but if you're going to get offended over cuss words, that's your issue.
And then to have an outburst such as you did that was INCREDIBLY offensive to anyone who is not Christian or American.............. yea the moderators can have a look at this because CUSSING is NOT against COM guidelines... but... your outburst there... well that can definitely be considered a personal attack, incredibly immature and childish.
Whatever hon..Im far too busy to keep debating with you...and frankly your posts, opinions and thoughts mean absolutely squat to me..so whatever you are and wherever you are have a pleasant day and I sure hope for your sake you arent this hostile with everyone who crosses your path..its a shame that someone who seems so intelligent in the beginning could stoop to the level of insulting me..when I have already apologized to ______ and anyone else that took my words wrong. Have a nice holiday season and enjoy your life.
When you post bullshit like this... I have NO reason to be polite to you. You are the one who became hostile and you have the nerve to say it's ME being insulting. Leave already, you've said you're done posting here like 4 times already.... still waitin for you to stop posting.
quoting: if you dont like the way christians and other americans express their faith in this country..then you are welcome to take your atheist behind elsewhere..no one is making you stay here and pollute this country with your poor attitude and dirty mouth. And if anyone needs the protection and help of the Lord IT IS YOU!!! so again I say GOD BLESS GOD BLESS AND GOD BLESS
Wow... do you tell all the Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Pagans etc to get out of your country too? That has got to be one of the rudest comments I've read on COMs in a long LONG time, and I've been around a while and seen some pretty screwed up stuff.
You keep saying you haven't been offensive in your posts, and then post this! I can assure you I find a bit of bad language far less offensive than this last post. It is a personal attack and will be reviewed by myself and the other moderators later today (since not all of us are American - oh the horror - and are on different time zones).
You can "moderate" all you want to because whether you live here or not..like it or not..appreciate it or not..we ALL have the right to free speech. and no I do not say things like that to anyone who doesnt insult me first..I personally dont care what religion, ethnicity, sex, or anything else someone is. It bears no impact on me and I have friends from all walks of life. I find great happiness in meeting people of a different culture and belief. and I also have been and observed many different religions in my strive to find the one that fits me most comfortably. I think they are all very similar to one another..it makes no bearing in my life who you worship or if you worship. I merely find it disgusting that you seem to have a double standard here on ___ and COM. for the fact that she is allowed to use extreme profanity such as the Fbomb and calling me an "ignorant a**". how is that not a personal attack..oh but wait thats right you dont regulate equally do you..well do what you must..it affects my personal life about as much as rains in the sahara...that would be not at all..your opinions mean precisely...oh wait I better let miss potty mouth finish that...cause you wont delete her.
Seriously... you must be reading the posts in whatever order suits you best because I never attacked you, I simply stated how your posts were coming off and how they can be seen as offensive. Then I said "shit happens" and you got your panties in a bunch about the vulgarity of the word "shit." I said if you're gonna get offended by the use of cuss words you should knock off the mannerisms you use that others can be offended by; God bless you, being the example I used. You chose to ignore that point (which seems to be a very bad habit of yours by the way).
And then you flipped out and went all bat shit crazy because you assumed I said something I didn't or meant something just because you wanted to argue it.... either way, I called you an ignorant ass because the exact part of your post that the mod bolded for you is BEYOND IGNORANT, INCREDIBLY offensive and makes you look like a GINORMOUS ASS. That is no fault of anyone but yourself. You should REALLY consider taking some responsibility for your actions, you look like an even bigger ass when you try and blame someone else for your own bad behavior.
You are 100% right, we ALL have the right to freedom of speech and that includes my right to say SHIT HAPPENS. And if YOU are going to get offended by me saying SHIT HAPPENS and then try and pull a double standard because people get offended when YOU say something as insulting, offensive and rude as "if you dont like the way christians and other americans express their faith in this country..then you are welcome to take your atheist behind elsewhere..no one is making you stay here and pollute this country with your poor attitude and dirty mouth." -- which is 100% a personal attack at me -- YOU ARE OUT OF LINE. There's no way around that, I don't care what words or rights and freedoms you try to pull out of your ignorant ass, you are out of line.
And that's not even going into the whole idea that your "rights and freedom" speech really does mean "squat" to me - I'M NOT IN YOUR COUNTRY - I'm not an American. The whole INTERNATIONAL site concept, still beyond you I guess. So I won't 'take my atheist butt elsewhere' because it's already elsewhere!!!!!!! And you're STILL out of line!!!!!!!!!!
And people wonder where the hostility comes from... what do you think? Should we take our atheist butts elsewhere? lol