Do you think the vaccinations caused autism in your child?
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Heidi - posted on 09/14/2011
I have 3 boys 11yr (Aspie) 10 (typical Ha, ha) and 1 (???) The oldest got the Mercury shots (born in 2000) the 10 year old got the new shots, and the baby only had 3 at 6mo. The baby stopped babbling ( he was making noise all the time, then silent for about 8mo) at about 14 mo he started making sounds again, and now at 21 mo is saying single words. His social skills are different, he has no stranger anxiety (never did), he seams to like people, and will go to anyone. He will wander away, and not seem to miss, or look back at familar adults. He does make eye contact, and "talk " back and forth. I don't think that shots are safe, and will not be giving any more to my children. FYI mercury is still in the flu shot (not the spray) and the tetnus booster as they are not considered baby shots. Also my 11 year old who has had all his vaccines has had Measles and Mumps (the actual illnesses) When he was 6, and 10. So the shots didn't even work.
Tania - posted on 09/07/2011
well i think it did cause autism as my firt son was dianosed then i had a second child and didnt vaccinate and he was fine doctors then told me it had nothing to do with vaccinations so i felt like a terrible mother and then vaccinated my second child ...not long after that he changed and has since been dianosed so i say yes
Juliette - posted on 08/31/2011
I'm just sitting here crying as I read these posts it's a good cry though. I just feel so grateful to the wonderful mothers on here who love their precious children so much. A lot of the thoughts and ideas expressed on here have been one I've felt myself. Day to day things change so much tha it seems I've tried so many different methods to help my daughter 11 with Autism. I think we all have to try the things that our families an children need specifically at that time. My Hailey has different times of the year that she struggles worse. Spring and first par of the summer is usually very hard on her and our family. I noticed when we moved Fr Az to Utah that when the whether would do a drastic change her behaviors would just get out of control even more then normal. It took me 3 springs and a reminder Fr my mom that every spring I call crying and ask if we can come visit. A therapists receptionist heard my daughter screaming and she said is sure is spring. She told me almos all the kids they see with Autism, Down Syndrome and teretts have severe behaviors at major season changes. Some when Fall begins and others when spring hits. Wow! It makes sense to me cause when we lived in Tucson Az it didn't happen cause we don't experience true seasons there. Utah definately has the distinct seasons so it's more obvious. We love it here though so we just prepare ourselves for spring now. My daughter had early onset Autism and I signed in the hospital to not give her te Hep B shot so I know she had Autism bef the shots although her behaviors got worse and she became hyperactive after we started te shots finally. I don't think they cause them by if a child is already dealing with motor delays and all the othe problems I think they can be pushed over the edge with the things that are in the shots. It's such a personal and individual choice with each child I believe. When my second child was born I already knew Hailey ha Autism and realized she seemed worse after the shots but felt in my gut that my son would be ok to get his shots. Can't explain it but I knew it was ok for him. When my 3rd child was born she had hypoextensive joints and sensory sensitivity in her hands just like my oldest daughter with Autism I knew I was not supposed to give her the shots. Even my husband who is completely for shots new also that she shouldn't. We hav decided when she turns 5 to slowly one shot at a time get hers. I feel like her genes were just so close to my daughters with Autism I didn't want to add any environmental triggers to push her over the edge possibly into autism. I know I'm not making sense because I don't think shots cause Autism but for someone predisposed I think sometimes anything un-natural will be the last straw. My other two children are typical. When I was pregnant with my daughter with Autism I had to be on phenergan because I had already lost 18 lbs Fr the vomiting. I've talked to 3 other women all with children on the spectrum that also were on phenergan with their pregnancies. I ate tuna 11 years ago every day for lunch for 9 months I craved it and didn't know then about the high levels of mercury. Her heart rate went way down for a while after her being in the birth canal and me pushing for 2 and 1/2 hours. I really do think the birth story and pregnancy history gas a lot to do with it. Alot of the ideas I've read on here I agree with. Doctors just don't know yet but I think it's important to have our stories told so that they can find at least one thing so in common that we can at least in the future try to not do those things or take those things. All that said I believe my daughter was supposed to be here with our family just the way she is to touch others hearts and to show the world what true unconditional love really is. My neighbor has left an apple my daughters favorite food on the post every morning for the past two years because she's special and they love her so much and want her to know how special she is. That right there is pure love. Sorry this was so long apparently I need to write more often just a little shorter each time. :) so happy to have found you fantastic huge hearted mothers!!!!!! Juliette
Philomena - posted on 08/30/2011
Not at all. I know people who have autistic children and they have never even had a flu shot. I know some kids react badly to immunizations but that could happen to peanuts or anything else. They do not cause autism. I have 2 other children who have had all their shots and they have no autism.
April - posted on 08/23/2011
absolutely not. I think the debate is pointless. If that were the case, wouldn't every child who has been vaccinated be affected? What about those who have not gotten the shots and still have an autism diagnosis?
Instead of looking for blame, focus on your child and get crucial early intervention services. My son has autism and I'll continue to get him vaccinated. I'd much rather deal with having a child with special needs rather than losing him to a preventable disease!
Bettie - posted on 08/23/2011
I think it is something that needs to be looked into but i don't think it's something in the vaccinations. I think it's too many combined and given at once they should spread them out more. There was a theory i read that there's studies going on for our childrens immune systems respond differently to the vaccinations than other children's do. instead of sending out the one cell that it suppose to it sends out the second cell which mass produces and triggers the Autism in our children. I think this theory is the most resonable because then the environmental factors and genetic factors would come into play here. My son showed no sign of autism till he got his first set of vaccines and with each combined vaccine afterward he got worse. So i think it has more to do with their immune systems than genetics, environment, or vaccinations. In my family we have no disabilites or genetic problems so his diagnoses was a total shock.
Jaymi - posted on 08/23/2011
My severely autistic son did develop some language and then lose it, but I didn't see a correlation between when he received immunizations and his regression. My son is a twin and received all immunizations at the exact same time as his twin sister, including the RSV shot, which they received due to their prematurity. My daughter is neurotypical, as well as my other two boys. My oldest son is only 13 months older than the twins, and I have video of them babbling together when my son with autism was about 8 months old. It's hard to watch it, because he looks so typical. I cannot discount that other moms of children with autism have noticed a difference right after the immunizations though. I am just not sure it was a factor in our son.
Bobbi - posted on 08/23/2011
It has been proven, without a doubt that vaccinations are not the single cause of our children's autism, it has been proven again and again that vaccines are not causing autism.. I've bee involved with autism for over 10 years now and the same debate happens again and again, regardless of the fact that the proof is out there and readily available... the problem is that the issues- or "symptoms" are seen at the same time the child is in a massive developmental stage which is why it is so noticeable and why many believe their child was not autistic at birth and somehow "became" autistic. Autism is not a disease, it is not an illness and it CAN NOT be "caught" from vaccines or anything.. the most up to date research believes now it is BOTH genetic and environment- how much of a role each places, researchers are now looking into..
I can give website after website of information pertaining to vaccines and autism.. Some will say they "prove" vaccines do cause autism, but when you look deeper, it is untrue and the "facts" they present are false... I can give you the research that has been done proving without a doubt that vaccines do not Cause autism, but I know i would be wasting my time... this debate is too emotional for some and those who choose to continue to believe that the vaccine that gave their child resulted in their child having autism, no proof will change their minds... that's what I've come to accept... what saddens me and angers me is why all this energy is spent fighting vaccines and it could be better spent researching the true combined causes of autism....
please understand, no offence is meant to anyone.. this is how I feel.
Marianne - posted on 08/23/2011
My son changed within 6 hours of the Vaccine. All I can say however is I feel that he was already autistic, but the vaccine 'woke' it up..He was a very different child 24 hours prior to the vaccine and went form playing with his brother as a 'normal' curios, playful, happy, developing child to a child who sat in front of pot plants for hours watching the leaves flutter in the breeze.and spinning wheels over and over...coincidence..maybe...but I can say with 100% certainty, this was the day he changed
Theresa - posted on 01/29/2010
Gloria, for a long long time I thought it was but now that he is 15 and I have started to see the changes that are being applied to the entire Autism spectrum, I started looking back to when he was tiny. He was always the quiet and alone type of child. Long before vaccines were started for my kids. He wasnt even 2 when I started to see the non verbal fits. It was the doctor who told me not to worry and that he would grow out of it once he started talking!
Lea - posted on 01/29/2010
my son showed signs of being different very early, so I don't blame his vaccination schedule. I read somewhere (i wish i could remember where) that they are doing research into the size of the brains of autistic children. on average, they are 13% larger than other chidren their age. A specific portion of the brain that controls socialization is also larger in proportion to other children. This is interesting to me, because when my son was born, his head size was in the 50th percentile. by age 1, his head was in the 90th percentile for his age. researchers don't know what causes the growth, but they do know it takes place between 9 and 18 months old. I find this research interesting, and have been trying to find more about it so that i can keep track of the development of the studies.
Elaine - posted on 01/29/2010
I do not beleive that vaccines cause autism. They have researched the question to boot. They have brought the question to the supreme court which decided that there was not suffient evidence that linked autism and vaccinations. I don't know why my son is the way he is, perhaps genetics. When I look back, the signs were always there. He never had a regression and now all he does is progress.. at his own speed of course, without chemical, detox, ect... treatments.
Kim - posted on 01/28/2010
No I don't believe the Autism is caused by the Vaccines or by the food we eat, It seems like it is a genetic defect. There are 5 grandkids in my family, my daughter and my grandson being part of the 5 with autism and aspergers syndrome. Not to mention all the other psychological issues as well, most of the grandkids and great grandkids in our family has, bipolar, depression, adhd, and many other learning disabilities and also one with schizophrenia. my daughter has all of them. i really believe its genetics that is the problem and the medical professionals are better at diagnosing the problems. But thats just my opinion.
Karen - posted on 01/28/2010
No I do not think that vaccinations caused autism in my child. I believe it is a genetic condition. However I do believe that the vaccinations could trigger the gene, but what do I know I am not a scientist, just a mom.
Bridgette - posted on 01/27/2010
I think that because of the new research that found its a defect in chromosome 5 in some- not all autistic children no.Spinal taps are invasive doctors wont check for MS which shows the same developmental delays in speech and school work. i think some children with Autism are misdiagnosed. How ever the only boy out of 4 who doesn't have Adhd in our family is the one who got his shots after turning 2. Children with type A blood are more likely to get autism and probably adhd for some reason. Both of mine have A.
Amanda - posted on 01/27/2010
I used to tell people that Billy's challenges didn't start until around 18 months, but then, I had never had a neurotypical child before and didn't realize the subtle communication problems he had even earlier. Now that his sister has been with us for 10 months, I realize that people didn't do any of the gesturing that she does, didn't attempt to get our attention or show us objects, hand them back-and-forth, the way Willow does.
That being said, I have decided to break up Willow's shots, getting only one vaccination per week, rather than a whole load of them at once the way it's usually scheduled. It was a pain in the butt early on, going in every week, but I felt like I wanted to do everything I could, to know that no stone had been unturned.
Tiffany - posted on 01/26/2010
I truly hope that there isn't a link between vaccines and autism and other neurological disorders, but there are too many cases where parents are 100% sure that this is the case (I'm not saying in ALL the cases because I do believe that genetics plays a role in some cases) Serious neurological symptoms are appearing immediately or within days/weeks after being injected. When the vaccination schedule consisted of 11 shots in 1989, the autism rate was 1 in 10,000. Today we give around 36 shots (total vaccines to U.S. children under 5) and the autism rate is around 1 in 150. What is amazing to me is that the Hepatitis B vaccine was added to the USA schedule in 1991 and the first dose is recommended to be given within 12 hours of birth. How do we even have time to know if the baby is normal if we are giving them a shot within 12 hours of birth? My son was given an apgar score of 9 at birth and on day 2, the doctor told me had a heart defect. If this abnormality wasn't even noticed until day 2, why would we take the risk of giving a vaccine at birth? Why can't we wait and let the baby rest a bit before giving him or her their first jab. Giving a baby a shot within 12 hours of birth doesn't make any sense to me. I've read several articles where the parents were never even informed of their baby being giving this shot. Also, if we are to assume that thimerosal isn't a problem in vaccines (even though thimerosal is 50% mercury which is literally the 2nd most neurotoxic stubstance on the planet and there is NO study that could ever prove it to be safe for us), maybe it has to do with the adjuvants in the vaccine or the culture it is grown in... for instance.... The MMR is grown in chick embryo cells, fetal bovine (cow)serum and a cell line developed from an aborted human fetus. (source: emedtv.com).
Brooke - posted on 01/22/2010
Anote to Sarah Hofland,
Im not writing to disagree or make arguement but purely to voice my opinion!
I have both a boy and a girl with Autism, they have both been tested for Fragile X syndrome along with other Genetic disorders and all came back negative. They have had MRI scans and found nothing! Vaccines in Australia do not contain mercury and are Safe! Its hard not knowing where it all originated! Iam however interested in what Renee had to say re: virus theory......
Jessica - posted on 01/22/2010
I never thought so before until I researched the h1n1 vax. Now I see how it could be a trigger. I do believe other things can be a trigger as well. At this point it doesnt matter to me why or how it happened. I dont need to blame anything. I am not angry anymore. I do however think they need to find out for sure what the triggers are to help prevent it in others. Or how to determine at birth what kids could get it and which cant to have them either avoid these triggers or to find a way to prevent it however they could/can.
Melanie - posted on 01/21/2010
Honestly I do not think vaccinations had anything to do with it. My son was like he is from birth- he schedulized me from birth, he refused to eat green vegatables as an infant (and still won't 14 yrs later), he began drawing amazing pictures at age 2 and had so many ticks and OCD issues before school age. He is who he is- as frusturating as it is at times- we would not change it one bit.
We saw nothing diffrent or new happen after vaccinations- they have always been there.
Melinda - posted on 01/16/2010
I do. I have a 30 year old daughter with mild autism/Aspbergers and a 7 year old son with very mild autism that seems to be slowly disappearing. Her problems started to become very apparent after a doctor's appointment where she was given 7 vacinations in one day.That night she had a seizure. She always had every vacination right on schedule. I was only 19 and thought I was doing the best to take care of her , following the recommended schedule. Her problems have always been more severe than my sons. He was a normally developing little boy up until the age of 2. After a doctor appointment where he had 3 shots he started to regress. He hasn't had any since.He is 7 now. We have a waiver for him to go to school without them but no longer need it as I started homeschooling him this year. He has done nothing but improve in every area since we stopped all shots.
Brandie - posted on 01/16/2010
I do not believe that is what caused my son's autism. And to be honest even if it was, I would have still given him the shots, having my son immunized is something I did to keep him healthy. I made that decision with much thought and prayer and I don't regret it. I would like to say that the doctor who first made the claims that shots cause autism has never really done anythiong but show correlation to prove his claim. A lot of things correlate to the rise of autism but correlation does not causation make.
It is an interesting debate though and it certainly hits cords with people.
Amy - posted on 01/16/2010
they don't "know" that vaccinations don't cause asd. they say this because it is big business. there are too many reported cases of children changing within hours of certain vaccinations to rule this out as a trigger but it seems there are many other factors involved to say its any one thing. i would suggest you read as much as you can pro and con and decided for yourself what you believe. but more importantly is there a cure? many,many people with nothing monetary to gain will say yes while people who make money off of telling you no will say no. again read all you can on the topic and if it's not something that can hurt your child isn't it worth trying? personally i say yes!
Annette - posted on 01/16/2010
before having a child with a disability ... I was educated in the field and worked with people who were being deinstituationalized.... there were plenty of older clients who had autism... well into their 50's 60's and 70's... so for me that rules it out...
I personally feel its only a matter of time before we find a genetic link to why autism happened to our child... depending on the "different" types they have.... Rett Syndrome has already found the gene... and researchers feel that this is also playing a role in other forms of autism...
I was told by a genetic specialist years ago... that if this is the first time something happens in your family to one of your children .. its called "de novo"... a new mutation... I have 5 daughters... only one has autism
I also feel the developmental "regression" that most of us see in our children is kind of like something else in life.... Multiple Sclerosis.... I have MS... and my brain is changing everyday... I get sensory overload.... loss of words... physical inco ordination... does not mean I came into too much toxins... it means my body is turning against itself... again I also think this will come down to genetics.... what triggers the gene to act up is definately stress....
But like others have said... we have these children now... having an answer why would be nice... but would it really change how we love them?
Chantelle - posted on 01/12/2010
Im thinking it has something to do with environmental changes and the increase in toxins. The toxins must prey on weak links in our genetics or somehow weaken even the stable genetic material just enough to cause the reaction of autism before our immune system takes it over....just a thought.
I have two nephews who are autistic. Neither family has a history of any health issues besides heart disease. It is weird how it don't really matter what your family's history is ...one can have a child that develops autism. It really is a blessing to be around them. I believe they are very very smart little fellas that really see the world in a different light. They are a blessing to our family.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME ANY MORE PERSONAL MESSAGES. I don't know you, didn't ask for advice from you and didn't post the question. People that also make assumptions about my life are very offensive. People post questions on here looking for peoples opinions, if you don't like someones opinion build a bridge and get over it.
Amy - posted on 01/04/2010
I think the vaccines are just part of a trigger but there is a much larger picture that we are missing. I believe that a virus infects our children since every child with autism I've ever met the parent says that the child had a high fever which was a viral infection. I think this infection starts the chain of events. It's called virus theory and it's being studied at I believe the University of Utah. Somehow the vaccines may set off the fever too but I believe that over the decades that viruses have mutated until the last 50 years when autism has gotten progressly worse all over the world I also think there are environmental factors that make the symptoms worse. That would explain why changing a child's diet to healthier whole foods would help alot of children. Just my opinion of course the virus theory is in the early stages of study but it looks promising. That's where my money is.
My son had his share of high fevers. Whenever he got a "viral infection", his fevers would run between 104-107. I am a mother of a 13 year old boy who who I believe is to have Asperger's and has been diagnosed, and undiagnosed for 10 years now. Without treatment and/or a Dx, I am slowly losing my son to his self destructive behavior, and his illness.
Amy - posted on 01/04/2010
From what I have learned is that autism comes from a fragile X and toxins. Since boys have only one X chrom. it is more common in boys. If one x is bad in girls they have another that can help out, but both x's can still be fragile so thus leading to autism in girls also. Some kids can have a fragile x and never get autism. But with having a fragile x and toxins in the envorinment (both external and internal) it can trigger autism. What bothers one child may not bother another. So having milk products may trigger the autsim in one child but for another child it might be the air they breathe. Even stress a mom has during pregnancy can trigger toxins. There are some metals in vaccinations that can trigger autism. They are making vaccinations without some of those toxins, but the old ones are still out there (most are being sent to 3rd world countries). Personally I think vaccinations are important, but I think you need to be wise. Is the flu shot vaccination important for your child to get each your? Can vaccinations be spread out some or started at a later date for the child to be a little bit older?
So, does this mean they can diagnose with a simple blood test? Can they do a blood test to get a definate dignosis instead of going off of just behaviors, actions, etc..?
Dawn - posted on 01/01/2010
No I do not, it is a disorder in the brain that manifests itself in a child earlier than parents realize. Once uor daughter was diagnosed, it answered all of our questions about her odd/different and strange behaviors since she was born. We have two other children, one has Aspergers and the other is fine. We also have a history of autism in our family on my maternal side.
Kimberley - posted on 01/01/2010
The human body is an amazing and complex machine therefore sometimes things go wrong. Vaccinations are a convenient scapegoat for many issues. I knew from the day my son was born that he was not "Normal" therefore by the time he was officially diagnosed we had already established early interventions.
Elanor - posted on 01/01/2010
But the health professionals will need us parents to co-operate and find out. (In a way you are lucky that yours was born with it) My son didn't exhibit any symptons until a year ago. When you are in that situation, you can't help but wonder and search. And tbh I have come across stories where people have ;turned it back'. ???? So we can live in hope. However my son and all other I expect are beautiful children, the world would be boring without them.
Chantelle - posted on 01/01/2010
At the end of the day our children have autism but there is no point in looking at all these theories and dwelling on it all the time, looking for something to blame. Is it really going to make us as parents feel better if we find the cause or reason for autism in our child? We can't take it back, those days are gone. it's not going to change anything. Yes it would be great if we knew more about it but perhaps leave it to the professionals to continue there research until we better understand it, and when they find out the cause or reason, then we can start prevention perhaps! My son was born with autism and that's life so I deal with it. I make his life as positive and enjoyable as possible, there are so many more illnesses/disorders etc... out there that are way worse so I just thank my lucky stars he's alive and healthy.
Patty - posted on 12/31/2009
I think it's mainly environmental, combined with viruses and susceptible genetics. Toxins like heavy metals (mercury, lead, arsenic, cadmium) and aluminum play a big role. There seems to be correlation between mother's # of dental amalgams, her other mercury exposures like use of contact lens solutions or other Thimerosal-containing meds for many years or living/working somewhere a thermometer or fluorescent bulb was broken and not properly cleaned up, and her viral load. That's how a kid can be autistic at birth. But vaccines add to the toxin load without a doubt, which is why I no longer vaccinate. It's like piling more straws on the camel's back. I believe detoxing heavy metals properly (Cutler protocol) is important to recovery from autism.