does my son have autisim, adhd or something else?

Laura - posted on 08/06/2009 ( 8 moms have responded )

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hi i am a mother too 2 boys the oldest being 5, since he was 1 and a half hes been having really bad outbursts. he lays on the floor, kicks, screams, hits out etc. i was told by many docters its the terrible 2's come early and hell grow out of it. he has to have his own seat in the car, same seat on the bus, remebers everything like where hes been, what was there, whole book word for word so hes not stupid! he cant queue, he attacks people and moves them out of the way so he can be first and hes very compitive, he has to win and be first. hes also very strong so i cant restrain him when the epsodie starts! hes either really lovelable and good or really bad, nothiong triggers him. he can be sitting with you watching tv cuddling you, the next minuite hes hitting, punching, kicking swearing, throwing himself on the floor, etc. hes the same everywhere he goes and theres nothing to trigger him off, he runs around screaming and shouting and has started to make chicken noises for attention. at school he lays under the tablesz at dinner time swearing ( for attation) and because he doesnt get any he lashes out.. hes now 5 and he poos on the floor, wees around the house, knocks over full wheelie bins, swears, attacks me, his dad, friends anyone. hes hung off light fittings, pulled curtain rails off the wall, has no road sense and wonders out in front of cars, walks off from you and isint bothered if you arent around, and throw a tyre through the living room window smashing it! the last week of school he threw a brick at a childs head and had 3 adults try to restain him.
ive tryed the naughty step. he can sit there for up to a hour and still not calm down or underdtand what hes done wrong, ive tryed explkaining with books, a pasta jar, photos, egg timers, rewards lots of praise for good behavier, turining off the tv removing toys, removing him for the sitiution but NOTHING WORKS! the school have been involed and we have regular meets and adiary to try and see if theres a patteren but there isint. hes seen 3 chirocstists but they cant find anything wrong with him. hes seen a number of different docters but nothing and is due to see a ped in september. i personally think its a mixture of adhd and autism, but adhd has been ruled out my teachers but not anyone in the medical profession but they thin k mild autism or along them lines.
i really am at the end of my teather with him, ive got to the point where we dont go out because of how his outbursts are and i cant control him when he does them. does anyone have any advice?
is it something ive done thats made like this?

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Michelle - posted on 08/06/2009

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Your son does indeed sound like quite a lively young man, and I can relate to a lot of the patterns of behaviour he is enacting. Take heart, the fact that you have recognised that there is a difference in him, and have made all the right moves towards finding a solution makes you the perfect mom for this boy. My son (now 10 years) was diagnosed as having Aspergers Syndrome and ADHD when he was 4 and there are a lot of similarties to the patterns you are experiencing. Go to the professionals and get them to do all the tests and make an accurate diagnosis. They will be able to give you all the steps from there on out. I did just that and I've never looked back. My son went onto medication and a healthier diet. He also started Remedial, Occupational and Speech therapy where he was taught, amongst other things, to recognise the need to verbalise his desires instead of acting them out in a frustrated and inappropriate manner. Just take one day at a time, count to ten and believe that you have been given a gift in your child. The livelier they are the bigger the HUGS

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Tamera - posted on 08/16/2009

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Sounds a lot like my son too. He was diagnoseds with aspergers, adhd and a mood disorder.

Karen - posted on 08/16/2009

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Try to get an appointment with a neuro-psychiatrict Dr. They can do a complete neuro-psych evaluation.Thats what I had to do with my son. It is an all day testing, but so worth it. Not only will you be able to find out exactlly whats wrong, but if there are any learning disabilities also. And remember, even if he is super smart, he still qualifies for special education. If he is not challenged, then he will start to cause problems in school.

.andy - posted on 08/15/2009

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Okay, so he's five and different doctors are saying theres nothing wrong and that's really difficult to hear.....you're persistence and taking them to different doctors.....allergies....I wish my child had allergies, but autism has definitely affected my daughter and she diagnosed early and therapy has definite;y helped her. The meltdowns your son is exhibiting are difficult to endure. I wish you luck in finding a doctor that will help you and your son and lead you in the right direction. I think your intuition is right on and I think you should take that lead. The teachers can not diagnose your son.....you'll find the right doctor.....good luck to you and if you need anything....even to just vent don't hesitate to e-mail me.

Mandy

Debbie - posted on 08/14/2009

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Hang in there my son is 3 and I'm going through the same things. He has gone as far as injuring me to the point of my needing emergency care for my eye. I had gone through all the same repies with my drs. The most common was that because he had problem with communicating he acted out. He did not talk until he was over 2 years old because of a internal Cleft Pallet. Just when I was about to give up the fight on getting a diagnosis I finally got the attention of his dr by allowing him to have his little eposide in her office. He then was diagnosed with PDD and ADHD with mild retardation. For your sake and your son's don't give up the fight. I have several people tell me that he is just being labled, but they don't see his violent episodes day in day out like we do. Keep trying different mthods one will eventually work. Possitive praise worked well iwth my little man. Also people on the Autism specturm are very smart. The biggest thing is do not balme yourself you did absolutly nothing wrong!!!!!!!! He sounds so much like my son it was like you were descibing him insted of your own. Repetiveness is also helpful. Try a form time out for several weeks to a month before deciding it won't work. It takes a while for them to understand that if I do this I'll have to something that isn't fun or that I don't like. Demand testing with a Child Psy. specialist at your next visit. My son does the same with the cuddling and then hitting and kicking try to remove yourself from him by walking away each time he comes near you when he is hitting or kicking. It works at times for me. Good luck!!!!!!!! I'll help out the best I can even if it is just to vent to.

Nanci - posted on 08/10/2009

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Watch this video and see if it helps. What are you feeding him? Avoid milk, juice, gluten, sugar, carbs, dys,ect. Listen to what the video says. It could be an allergie. Give him fish oil, cod liver oil, ionic magnesium, the list keeps going. Consult a nutritionist. Does he have dark circles under the eyes? Have him tested for glutin and dairy https://www.enterolab.com/Home.htm. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Oh a good book is A toxic world by Dr. Dorris J. Rapp MD, who is in the video.

Teri - posted on 08/06/2009

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DONT BLAME YOURSELF. I WENT THROUGH SIMILAR THINGS AND STILL GOING THROUGH IT WITH DOCTORS TO GET DIAGNOSIS. MY DAUGHTER IS FOUR AND THERE ARE MANY TIMES I CANT HANDLE HER BEHAVIOR. SHE IS CALLED THE MYSTERY CHILD BY HER DRS.. SHE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ASPERGERS. SYMPTOMS, SEVERE ADHD, PPD, OPPOSITIONAL DEFIANT DISORDER, AND NOW WITH CHROMOSOME DISORDER(WHICH WE ARE WAITING MORE TESTING)

SO FAR ALL OF THE ADHD MEDS WE TRY DONT WORK AND IF THEY DO IT MIGHT ONLY BE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. SHE HAS NOT SLEPT 5 HOURS IN TWO WEEKS. THEY THINK IF SHE HAS AUTISM THAT IT IS MILD. BUT THINGS GET REALLY TOUGH, JUST HANG IN THERE AND PRAY THAT YOU CAN SOON HAVE ANSWERS AND HELP. I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BECAUSE SOMETIMES I FEEL WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET ANY BETTER, BUT THE LOVE AND HUGS FROM MY CHILD MAKE UP FOR HER BAD BEHAVIOR AND IT IS JUST AS HARD ON HER AS IT IT US.

Michelle - posted on 08/06/2009

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Your son does indeed sound like quite a lively young man, and I can relate to a lot of the patterns of behaviour he is enacting. Take heart, the fact that you have recognised that there is a difference in him, and have made all the right moves towards finding a solution makes you the perfect mom for this boy. My son (now 10 years) was diagnosed as having Aspergers Syndrome and ADHD when he was 4 and there are a lot of similarties to the patterns you are experiencing. Go to the professionals and get them to do all the tests and make an accurate diagnosis. They will be able to give you all the steps from there on out. I did just that and I've never looked back. My son went onto medication and a healthier diet. He also started Remedial, Occupational and Speech therapy where he was taught, amongst other things, to recognise the need to verbalise his desires instead of acting them out in a frustrated and inappropriate manner. Just take one day at a time, count to ten and believe that you have been given a gift in your child. The livelier they are the bigger the HUGS

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