How many parents with children who have Autism, ADHD, Asperger and PDD noticed developmental delays after immunization shots?

Lisa - posted on 11/21/2012

There is no proof linking vaccinations to autism. The only study that found any proof was an elaborate fraud. The researcher has lost his medical license and been completely discredited. Here is a link to one of many articles you can find on this very very harmful fraud:



http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/aut...

Jen - posted on 11/20/2012

I don't think anyone can say yes or no to whether or not the vaccines cause autism. I believe it's in the child's make up. You may have a child that gets vaccinated and has no reaction whatsoever and goes on to be a normal healthy child. THen on the other hand you have a healthy happy baby that gets the vaccines and winds up with autism. I just think some children's brains are predisposed to have abnormalities that pick up on the mercury or other poisons in the vaccines and their brains say no we can't take this, whereas had they not gotten the vaccine they may have been fine. I think 2 months old is too young to get vaccines with all these poisons in them. The brain is still developing and these poisons are not good and in my opinion cause problems in the development. My son is 3 1/2 and has a diagnosis of PDD-NOS. He flaps his hands and was a late talker. Still does not have conversations but says new words everyday and is doing wonderful in school (IEP) early intervention. I have a lot of hope that he will continue to make great progress, but as for my second child a girl who is 7 months, i did not get the vaccines for her and will not because I do not know and probably never will if they are what caused my son's problems. He is very smart and very sweet affectionate child. And he is happy. I'm so glad I didn't get him the MMR shot. So all those out there who say they firmly believe or that shots do not cause autism because of scientific proof. Thats bull crap, you will never really know. Sorry to be so blunt, but that is how i feel. I know a family that had a son who up until the age of 5 was perfectly fine, healthy, talked normal, everything normal. At 5 he got his booster shot and everything changed and he died. Started having seizures, started regressing in development, eventually stopped talking and DIED. Coincidence, I don't think so.

Leanne - posted on 11/11/2012

All I can go by is my own experience. When I was 6 months along I contracted chicken pox, and boy did I get a doozy strain, high fever, I was one giant raash.... It was horrible... I have read and learned a few things since my son was diagnosed and one thing that stuck in my mind was his neurological componants were delveloping at the time... When he was born, he wasn't breathing for 5-7 minutes, and to be honest for the first three months of his life he looked and acted like a crack baby, bluish purple on his limbs, slept a good 98% of the time and it was a JOB to get him to eat two ounces at a feeding... He was always "different"... Not a cuddler, slow to engage, slow in most development areas. Each one not a big deal but put together with his DX of moderate autism it makes sense. He might have been genetically predisposed but he had his trigger before he even came out of the womb I think...... He is now a funny, handsome 14 yr old, who is still sensitive to drugs (he reacts to almost everything we have tried), has a definate developmental delay and has his struggles in learning/social situations..... Do I think his vaccines played a part, not really.... My son was born with autism, having experienced his trigger in the womb.....

Morgan - posted on 11/09/2012

My thought about the cause of autism is a combination of genes/toxins..and some form of mitochondrial disfunction. I believe a child is born with autism an can regress due to immunizations, but its not the actual immunization that causes autism..i suggest you read up on mitochondrial disease/dysfunction. It very interesting and the medical aspect behind autism goes on and on.

Wynne - posted on 11/08/2012

my son was born perfectly healthy. We have absolutely no history of genetic conditions in our family. My son spiked a very high fever and was very sick for 2 days after vaccinations.

At age 4 he was diagnosed with ADHD and now at age 8 diagnosed with Aspergers. My other kids did not have a reaction to their vaccines and do not share these conditions.

Sarah - posted on 09/06/2012

hello i have a litlle girl that is 8 witch she is has pddnos/adhd/dyslexia/and mild hi fuction mr.and she had seizures at birth witch i think it was do to a obgyn mis stack when i gave birth to her i do belive that after she recived her shots she got the pddons. have a son witch is 12 born very healthy. hes very smart as well. i was on the internet this summer and came a cross this ronald davis created the davis dydlexia correection program it is baded on experience he had in his early lif.look this up n watch the video n and there is all kinds of info bout austism and so much more. the web site is www.dyslexiawvcom davis autism approach facilitator. at this time i am trying to send my child ther cause there is hope i live in wv. but there are other states that he his helping just look him up ronald davis. when i heard his story i so could under stand so much more. even though it brought chills to me and i cryed hearing his story. i also think it is brought on by the shots and gentic factors. i am in the proprocess of sending my child the davis clinic. i so wish you all the best.

Diana - posted on 11/08/2011

I have two kids with adhd and also has asperghers and the other autistic

Jen - posted on 08/10/2010

sad to say this becomes a never end of battle. In my case It in the family . I myself has it my nephew who is first born and my son got it . The other members in the family doesn't have it . We are waiting to see if my oldest brother daughter might or might not have it . there is not enough funding to do research in to what trigger autism. . that why people are blaming needles etc. if there was lots of funding and then truth would come out . In my case my son and nephew had shots. When i was growing up I not sure if I got all my shot and at that time it was not a huge deal to get shots for your children.
One thing I do remember My sister looking for why this happen to her and found that our family member like great grandfather other people in our family that at the time autism was not class as autism has something that match.
I would like to see more funding in what trigger this . but at the moment it battle battle between shot and genetic . Oh heard hear it all the odd old parents have higher was rubbish and then washing the dog . unless better funding is why this happen you are going no where . in my case I want answers on why but I have to work with my child and try to fit in with everyone else .

Kathy - posted on 08/10/2010

I have four diagnosed under the spectrum. My eldest was late at everything from potty training to walking, but advanced verbally. My 2nd was ahead physically until about 16 months and then just seemed to not really develop uch farther without intervention, my third was not very delayed at diagnosis, but has since needed help to stay age appropriate, but is doing well and my fourth is pretty advanced on speech but again, same as third, is a little behind physically ie. jumping. And there is no previous diagnosis anywhere in my or my husbands family history.

April - posted on 08/10/2010

My 9 year old son, Paddie has an Axys 5 Pervasive Developmental Disorder, to include, Dislexia, ADD/ADHD, Autism/Aspergers Syndrome, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Impulse Control Disorder, Dysthemic Disorder, and Phsycosocial Developmental Disorder. His IQ is above average at 113, but he lacks social interaction, cognitive communication, and emotional stimuli interpretation skills. He has excellent rote memory but only in matters of high interest to him. He can do high school Algebra an Calculus, but he cannot remember his times tables, he can do macrame but cannot tie his shoes, he can read 9th grade level books (he is in 4th) but he cannot say his ABC's. Every day we face new obsticles, every way day we create new ways around them.



I knew that he was "different" by the time he waws six months old. He could do things that other his babies his age couldn't but couldn't do things they could. He was born 2 months early, but at full weight, he held his head up on his own from day 1, but I am still trying to potty train.



Originally his Dr. told me I was being paranoid that there was nothing wrong with him. Then 2 years later he looks at me and asks me if I have noticed anything "strange" about my sons behavior, we changed Dr's. He was later diagnosed as ADD/ADHD, then later as PDD/NOS, and again later as Aspergers Disorder, and most recently as listed above.



Dr's now tell us that his Autism is developmental, meaning he will continue to develop more and more issues as he grows.



I don't know what caused it, I don't know if it needs to be fixed or if we do, but what I do know is that all I want for my son is to be happy and loved and to live a life that is rich with adventure and experience, and I will do whatever I have to do to make sure he IS safe and happy.

Kathy - posted on 08/10/2010

My daughter was diagnosed without having been vaccinated.

Tammy - posted on 02/26/2009

I am glad I joined this group and read your comment today. My 4 year old will be due for her last set of shots in 2 months. I am going to ask that they seperate them.My son has been diagnosed w/ PPD, speech impedement, expressive language delay, general anxiety disorder.We didn't catch it until he was 10! I finally got the right Dr. to listen to me.I noticed a change after my sons 6 mo. shots.He wouldn't go to anyone other than myself and my husband after the shots. It has been horrible. But, he is 13 now, and doing just fine. we have adjusted.

Tammy - posted on 02/26/2009

As a matter of fact, The last baby picture of my 13 yr old son was right before his 6 mo. shots.He looked so happy. I could never get him to take another baby picture-he would get so terrified of the photographers touching him. He wouldn't stay with anyone but me/husband.He was delayed in speaking because of speech problems. we couldn't understand what he was saying .his sister would have to i"interpret" for us. She is 2 yrs older.I do believe the shots had something to do with it.

Tawny - posted on 02/26/2009

Quoting Lynsey:

Quoting Tawny:

I've researched the gluten and casein free diet and I was going to try it as well. It's a really hard diet to follow especially for picky eaters like mine! But after blogging with other moms about this, they all told me to start slow. So I started with eliminating only regular milk. My daughter only drinks soy milk and calcium fortefied juices now and after only 2 weeks I strarted seeing a huge improvement! She's making a lot more eye contact and starting to put 2 to 4 word phrases together on a regular basis. It's now been about a month and half and it just getting better!

thanks for that advice i think thats what we are going to try first too. After the dreaded potty training

 

Ugh! Potty Training!!!!!!  If anyone has any suggestions on that please let me know!  I've been trying to potty train for a year now!

Sarah - posted on 02/25/2009

All i can say is that my son was a perfectly normal 13 month old just taking his first steps when he had the first MMR jab, within 24 hours of this he was violently sick and limp, he was rushed into A&E with suspected meningitus, had all the tests and the final result was a "bad reaction to the jab" he then took another 4 weeks to recover, learned again to walk at 16 months and problems started from here, i'll let you be the judge.

Connie - posted on 02/25/2009

Sure I am glad I could help some what.

Paulette - posted on 02/25/2009

We now have a mom who had genetic testing done on her child after seeing behaviors and having a diagnosis only to find their wasn't a test that said it (genetics) was the reason for her child's diagnosis. I am wondering if we all get the testing done will we get the same results? I don't know but it could give us more of a perspective one way or another. Thanks for listening and thanks everyone who is posting.

Paulette - posted on 02/25/2009

Thank You Connie for posting.

Connie - posted on 02/25/2009

Our son started to show signs shortly after the age of two and we had been at a regular doctors visit and she said that she was noticing some behaviors that resembled autistic like behavoirs, we hqad him tested at KC med center for disabilities and they diagnosed him with PDD-NOS and then we had lab work drawn that did not show any genetic reason for this diagnosis but he did have a slight elevation in the fragile x probe, but other than that no other indications so my guess would have to be the immunizations. We also have to other children both being boys and they seem to be just fine. Connie

Kelley - posted on 02/24/2009

My son is 19 years old. I knew there was "something wrong" before his first birthday, well before he received his MMR vaccination, so I truly believe that it had nothing to do with his diagnosis.



He was originally diagnosed with ADHD at age 2, and that only after my persistence with his doctors. Everyone kept asking, "How do you know something is wrong?" Or, they would try to tell me I was overreacting. "He's a boy, he'll talk soon," is just one example of what professionals would tell me. When I explained that I had an older son, did home daycare, and had a background in Early Childhood Education, they finally would listen. After that initial diagnosis of ADHD, it was changed to moderate to severe autism at 3 1/2 years. We were also told he was moderately to severely retarded. Today, he is a high school senior, a member of the National Honor Society with a GPA of 3.5! I don't know what his IQ is, but it's likely in the genius range! His diagnosis was changed again several years ago to Asperger's Syndrome, (which I don't believe was even in existence when he was a toddler), and I finally feel that this diagnosis is correct.



Like I said, I know that the MMR vaccine had nothing to do with my son's diagnosis. Can it adversely affect some children? I'm sure it's possible. But I don't think one can say that it is the cause of autism or asperger's in ALL of those children that do have it.

Lynsey - posted on 02/24/2009

Quoting Tawny:

I've researched the gluten and casein free diet and I was going to try it as well. It's a really hard diet to follow especially for picky eaters like mine! But after blogging with other moms about this, they all told me to start slow. So I started with eliminating only regular milk. My daughter only drinks soy milk and calcium fortefied juices now and after only 2 weeks I strarted seeing a huge improvement! She's making a lot more eye contact and starting to put 2 to 4 word phrases together on a regular basis. It's now been about a month and half and it just getting better!

thanks for that advice i think thats what we are going to try first too. After the dreaded potty training

Jen - posted on 02/24/2009

Hmm well It strange in my family  due to I got asperger and my son has autism. But  My sister first son has asperger . We trace our family tree and found lots more . My son father  father has asperger so how odd that ,

Alejandra - posted on 02/24/2009

II certainly noticed severe changes after my Little one was immunized with the MMR shots, she was never the same after that, i still feel guilty for allowing the doctor to give her that shot, i know there is 100% proof that immunizations cause autism but i feel deep in my heart that it did, thank godness she is making progress, but i will always wonder what if she wasnt immunized.

Naomi - posted on 02/18/2009

Quoting Bonnie: The same thing happend with my son  he was above levels in talking and interacting and then came the mmr and 2 others ant the very next day he was not talking and went into his own world as I call it. He still to this day dose not talk.

Quoting Kelly:

I personally believe the shots caused my son to have Autism.... I know, I know, I know....there's no proof it does, but until someone shows me proof beyond doubt that it DOESN"T I will always believe it. He was a bright, fun, loving child then 1 day he changed.  That just doesn't happen unless something causes it to.

Same thing with my 2 boys , they totally changed after having there shots.  I always tell moms to get those shots seperated if your going to get the the shots and make sure they don't give them to early either.  My 2nd son with autism was given a shot this past year and it seemed to make things worse for him so I am totally convinced some of these shots effect some children.  Its just wierd that when they were small they were so happy and fun and loving and eating whatever you gave them to then have all these problems after giving them the shots and totally turning into a different child.

Jennifer - posted on 02/18/2009

I have to agree with Kelly Roll and I'm sure other parents that I didn't get to yet, but I believe that my son's autism is linked to his vaccinations. I held off until my son was ready to start kindergarten but for the dreeded MMR shot and that is when I saw the change in my son. He was a very bright, intelligent child; developing at the normal rate for his age group, then when he was vaccinated for the start of school he took a turn for the worse and has struggled ever since then.

Jessica - posted on 02/18/2009

Quoting Tawny:

I don't want anyone to think that I believe vaccines are all bad. I don't! I'm just saying that not all vaccines are right for all children at the same time. I'm also not saying that vaccines are the cause of all children with Autism. I just believe that there has to be a link somewhere, since so many parents have been through the same thing. There is no history of Autism or any developmental disorders in mine or my husbands family, and my daughter was fine before the vaccines. I have done ALOT of research and these vaccines are not safe for ALL children. I don't believe its just the MMR either. There are other vaccines they use mercury in also.

This is how I fell as well. Not that Vaccines cause Autism, but that they are not right for ALL children.  In the same aspect that one kind of  formula is not okay for all babies. Like a sort of permanant Allergic Reaction .. Think about that !

Paulette - posted on 02/18/2009

Thanks to everyone who has posted so far. It is comforting to know there are more parents who have a simular outcome.

Tawny - posted on 02/17/2009

I've researched the gluten and casein free diet and I was going to try it as well. It's a really hard diet to follow especially for picky eaters like mine! But after blogging with other moms about this, they all told me to start slow. So I started with eliminating only regular milk. My daughter only drinks soy milk and calcium fortefied juices now and after only 2 weeks I strarted seeing a huge improvement! She's making a lot more eye contact and starting to put 2 to 4 word phrases together on a regular basis. It's now been about a month and half and it just getting better!

Amy - posted on 02/17/2009

Right after his 18 month shots I saw a lot of regression.

Lynsey - posted on 02/17/2009

Quoting Bonnie:

Quoting Kelly:

I personally believe the shots caused my son to have Autism.... I know, I know, I know....there's no proof it does, but until someone shows me proof beyond doubt that it DOESN"T I will always believe it. He was a bright, fun, loving child then 1 day he changed.  That just doesn't happen unless something causes it to.

Same thing with my 2 boys , they totally changed after having there shots.  I always tell moms to get those shots seperated if your going to get the the shots and make sure they don't give them to early either.  My 2nd son with autism was given a shot this past year and it seemed to make things worse for him so I am totally convinced some of these shots effect some children.  Its just wierd that when they were small they were so happy and fun and loving and eating whatever you gave them to then have all these problems after giving them the shots and totally turning into a different child.

i have to agree with both of the comments above, the numbers are getting frighteningly high all around the world.

i have a 4yr old daughter with Autism, she is my third child of four. I am from England and here they tend to go for the excuse that its still an open book as to what causes Autism, toxic, in our genes or enviromental. But like you mums i just cant shake the fact that it was at the time after her jabs she lost her speech.

i search the internet for answers and ideas and it seems in america you go for the biomedical route. When you read these explanations as to why they see results it all stems back to the mercury in their bodies.

i think that we are going to try the cassien and gluten free route to look for a change even if only slight, just to get our little girl back.

My fourth child is 2 mths old and i can say i am totally confused as to what to do about his jabs. 

Carolyn - posted on 02/14/2009

I have a 2.5 year old who was diagnosed with ASD last summer. I don't know if vaccines "caused" her condition, but I think it is reasonable to say that in some children, vaccines work with a yet-unknown genetic factor to amplify what's already there.

In our case, our child had an unexplained seizure at 1 week old. She was fine until she had a vaccine at 7 months, and she went from no seizures to 100+ a day in a space of only a few days (she was eventually diagnosed with Infantile Spasms, a relatively uncommon and devastating form of epilepsy).

See http://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/epileps... for more information about IS.

Surprisingly, she recovered and caught up, was walking and starting to talk by the age of 15 months. Then the doctor talked me into another vaccine (to which I foolishly consented), and we were back at square one. Back to stays in the hospital, more MRI's, lumbar punctures, and costly medication to the tune of $1900 per 5 ml (about a tsp). She also quit talking. Once we emerged from that nightmare, we realized that we didn't have the same child that had already once recovered from the yaw of disability. We began to suspect Autism (many children who had IS as babies go on to develop either LGS or ASD).

For info about LGS, see http://www.epilepsy.com/epilepsy/epileps...

My daughter doesn't get any more vaccines, and the doctor has quit offering them. I was very convinced for a long, long time that they were the sole cause of my daughter's problem.

Then along came a new baby! And what an eye-opening that was! I can now see that my oldest was never right from the start. She didn't engage you, listen to you, vocalize, etc like this one does! I now know in my heart that Abby would have probably developed epilepsy and autism, but I still think the vaccines played a role in the swiftness and severity of her regression and deterioration.

I'm happy to report that Abby has been seizure-free for nearly a year, although she still takes daily medication for seizure control. And she's doing wonderfully at her ABA therapy, and I finally feel like I'm getting my child back!

Jennifer - posted on 02/14/2009

Do you know that according to certain studies the rate of Autism was 1 in 2500, 20 years ago. Today it is 1 in 150. What has changed....let's see 30 years ago I got all my shots one at a time when my mother took me to the Pediatrician. As did my brother and sister. Now our children are given 4 shots in one day at the age of 2 months old, etc.

I will admit there are little traits that my son had prior to receiving his 5 year or Kindergarten shots, but within 6 months of receiving those vaccinations he completely regressed with regards to his fine motor and visual motor skills. He also developed a ton of sensory issues and now his behavior is extremely volatile and violent.

I am not a nut job. I am a well education woman. I understand genetics and science. I believe that doctors give me accurate information and I have always trusted them with my son's care. Prior to my son's diagnosis of Aspergers, ADHD, and Developmental Coordination Disorder. I didn't pay ANY attention to the vaccine debate because to be honest why would I, my son was fine. It didn't pertain to me. Now that I have come in contact with countless parents who believe in the biomedical theories as well as those parents who believe their child suffered from vaccine damage I sit and here and wonder if only I had not been so ignorant could I have prevented this in some tiny way.

I know that my child definitely exhibited severe changes in his behavior and developmental skills only after he was given his last round of shots. I know that last May I had a sweet little boy who rarely if ever hit a friend or a parent. Now I have to hold my son in a chair as he physically attacks me, his mother. I know that I would give anything to go back and do things differently. I wish I could go back and get one shot at a time rather than 3 or 4 shots in one visit. I cannot do that!

Is it fair to millions of parents that live with the "what if" question everyday? No it is not. I truly believe that some children can be genetically predisposed and with the vaccinations given in the manner they currently are some of these children could be damaged from the extreme overload to their systems.

There is an article in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette today which speaks to this issue. One thing the PG did not publish, and may not even though, is that the doctor quoted is a patent holder on several of the required childhood immunizations. I'd like to seem them publish that information rather than portraying him as a non-biased party in all this. I think that would make a great difference to all of those PG readers out there who don't know the background information and are now making judgments based on that article representing him as "vaccine expert" at a hospital that is respected and renowned for its interest in the well fair and care of children.

I think it is our right as parents, it is the right of our children, and the right of all the children out there to have this research done. If new ideas were not explored, people would have continued to think the world was flat. I know that it a far cry from what we are talking about here, but no one should say that it is a dead-end hypothesis when the hypothesis itself has not been fully researched and tested to the greatest extent possible. I do not believe there is a government cover up, but I do believe the issue deserves attention and the appropriate regard as any other potential environmental health risk.

From one Mom to so many others, I know my little boy is suffering as are so many others, and when I have children in the future I will be very careful about how and when I have those children vaccinated because I will not risk that child's future just because the popular debate says there is no undeniable proof that vaccines can be linked to autism. Until I see that the much needed and deserved research is done on this issue, I'm sorry I will not defer to the popular opinion.

Tawny - posted on 02/14/2009

I don't want anyone to think that I believe vaccines are all bad. I don't! I'm just saying that not all vaccines are right for all children at the same time. I'm also not saying that vaccines are the cause of all children with Autism. I just believe that there has to be a link somewhere, since so many parents have been through the same thing. There is no history of Autism or any developmental disorders in mine or my husbands family, and my daughter was fine before the vaccines. I have done ALOT of research and these vaccines are not safe for ALL children. I don't believe its just the MMR either. There are other vaccines they use mercury in also.

MaryLou - posted on 02/14/2009

My son hit every milestone he was suppose to. It wasn't until around 18 months that a switch literally turned off and he tuned out. He went into his own world and can't speak. I believe that something triggered or aggravated the autism. This happy little guy became sad and empty looking in his eyes. He disappeared on us. Do you honestly believe the medical profession would admit that the vaccines cause autism, the entire profession would go down the toilet. BUT, the courts did rule that the vaccines did aggravate autism in one family. Check the link out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tate4Centr...

There is definitely something behind the vaccines. My son is now 5 and is due for his vaccines, I will not allow him to get the MMR.

Bonnie - posted on 02/14/2009

I have 3 children aged 7, 5 and 3, all girls, my oldest is autistic. All of my kids have had all of their vacs. I am also a Nurse and i have studied genetics



Genetics are a funny thing, defective genes can lay dormant for many generations without any one knowing.



A Recent study that has been done was done by a private researcher in Holland and they concluded beyond a doubt that there is no link the new york time published this study



Alot of people believe the government is covering it up, yes if they found a link then they would cover it up, but i dont believe for a second that any government would continue to allow these vacs knowing they cause harm.



Once a child is born nothing can change the way their brain developed. parents say their children were fine then after the shots they changed, this is called regressive autism, they always had it but can develop normally then regess around the age of 2, doctors have said that the shock of having a needle, not what is in it, but the shear fear that kids have when they get a needle could make the regession come faster, but it does not make it worse.



Doctors are supose to do no harm, now i know there are some doctors that are not so nice, but can any of you honestly say that the entire medical community is covering it up and delibrately hurting our children because the government is paying them to do so.



Researching things yourself is good but be careful and remember that anyone can post anything on the internet.

Nj - posted on 02/14/2009

There are split views here and it's good that you are thinking about the vaccine-autism connection, researching it for yourself and questioning vaccination. Because when it comes to vaccines, an informed decision is a wise decision. Learn more at our web site www.NJAICV.org and through our Circle of Moms group, facebook group and facebook page.

Marta - posted on 02/13/2009

My son hit some of his milestones dead on and some we are still working on. He is going to be 4 in May and was diagnosed with ASD in Sept. Even before he got his vaccines, I would always say that Marten was a "quirky" little boy. (He use to LOVE LOVE LOVE ceiling fans, and he still does!) So in my case I would say that it wasn't the needles. Now if you were to survey mine and my husbands families, you would hear every single trait that little Marty displays in there, "lang delay, later walker, poor at transitions etc.." Marten comes by it honestly!!! And just to add one more thing, I wouldn't change one thing about him.

Paulette - posted on 02/13/2009

Quoting Bonnie:

Its amazing how some people will believe conspiricy theories rather than medical prove collected from scientific studies. Vaccinations DO NOT cause Autism.

Its not a flu that you can catch, their brains developed differently in the womb, end of story.

And as for those government leaflets, are you really that gullible.

Hi Bonnie, Do you have a child on the autism spectrum? Where did you find the printed out medical and labatory test results proving that this does not happen? Who paid for the scientific studies? Have they made the results available and open to the general public?

Before 2004 all vaccinations had mercury preservative in them. The flu shot still has it in them. Why did they remove the preservative?  My son has a reaction prior to 2004 and in the fall of 2006 after receiving the flu shot and prevnar or mmr. After the first reaction he was a different child. Before the first reaction he met all his developmental milestones and no family history of autism. Before I was hearing comments from the ped. of how advanced he was for his age. So how would you explain how he got it? If they had proven that they did cause autism, how much money would have had to be paid out and who do you think would have to pay it out?

If it is that these children's brains are developing differently in the womb at you've stated, then why has this increased to the point of 1 out of 166? Where years ago it was 1 out of thousands. We are not inbred where we would keep passing down the defect genetically. I am not related to the other children who have this condition, which means my child isn't either. My husband took course in statistics in college and says that stats can be manipulated. It depends on the population, the data collected and the way you measure it. When you look at the fact that it is 1 out of 166 children and that their are millions of people in the US alone, you can do the math. That is a lot children who have this condition(s). As parents we have children who are born without the condition and see a reaction after having the shots (the shots being the only change in routine, food and enviroment) with no family history of autism, what are we supposed to think or feel is the answer? Granted there have been children who have come down with these conditions after the preservative was removed but what is causing so many children to have these conditions if it isn't the preservative and it is not the shots? Who is trying to find the answers?

I ask all these questions because you seem so confident that it wasn't the shots, I thought you may be able to help. Where can I find the research you have found that helped you come to this conclusion?

Tawny - posted on 02/13/2009

I am totally convinced that vaccines cause Autism. My daughter was hitting all her milestones on time and everything was great until she went in for her MMR. The very next day she stopped talking, she wouldn't look at anyone in the eye, she started lining up all of her toys instead of playing with them. It seemed like my little girl was lost and she couldn't find her way back! I think there has to be a link. It can't be just coincidence that sooooo many parents of Austistic children have had the same experience. I don't care if there's no scientific proof! I'm getting really sick of doctors telling me this! This is the kind of world we live in where doctors work for the pharmecutical companies and will tell people whatever they have to, to keep the money rolling in! It's sick! And our poor children are the ones having to deal with this!

Bonnie - posted on 02/13/2009

Its amazing how some people will believe conspiricy theories rather than medical prove collected from scientific studies. Vaccinations DO NOT cause Autism.



Its not a flu that you can catch, their brains developed differently in the womb, end of story.



And as for those government leaflets, are you really that gullible.

Stacie - posted on 02/13/2009

I can honestly say I did. I saw a website on a law suit over the vaccines. What I did was sit down and figure out when his seizures started and when he was flagged for autism. Well two of the shots had the manufacturer that carried mercury in it. What a weird coincidence hey?? I am not saying I blame the shots but I just find it weird. Also after Dakota's first MMR shot he had a rare reaction of a seizure so he will never have it again.

Jessica - posted on 02/13/2009

My daughter is 2 yrs 3 mos old. She does not have autism. However after her shots she had cerebellitis Ataxia. She couldnt walk, talk, or control her body movements for 5 days. Surprisingly to myself and the Doctors she pulled out of it with no apparent complications. So as far as I can see Vacccine's can cause many problems and Im pretty sure if they can do this to my daughter. They can surely cause long lasting effects like Autism.

Bonnie - posted on 02/13/2009

Quoting Kelly:

I personally believe the shots caused my son to have Autism.... I know, I know, I know....there's no proof it does, but until someone shows me proof beyond doubt that it DOESN"T I will always believe it. He was a bright, fun, loving child then 1 day he changed.  That just doesn't happen unless something causes it to.

Same thing with my 2 boys , they totally changed after having there shots.  I always tell moms to get those shots seperated if your going to get the the shots and make sure they don't give them to early either.  My 2nd son with autism was given a shot this past year and it seemed to make things worse for him so I am totally convinced some of these shots effect some children.  Its just wierd that when they were small they were so happy and fun and loving and eating whatever you gave them to then have all these problems after giving them the shots and totally turning into a different child.

Lorraine - posted on 02/13/2009

my little girl hollie who is now 6 was fine until she had her mmr jab, if they are sayin there isnt a link then why has the government issued leaflets regaurding a link between autism and the mmr jab, they say there isnt a link so why publish them

Kelly - posted on 02/13/2009

I personally believe the shots caused my son to have Autism.... I know, I know, I know....there's no proof it does, but until someone shows me proof beyond doubt that it DOESN"T I will always believe it. He was a bright, fun, loving child then 1 day he changed.  That just doesn't happen unless something causes it to.

Katharine - posted on 02/13/2009

The hallmark of autism is that it is not a specific condition.  It is a collection of behaviours that resembles nothing quite so much as a chinese take out menu.  If you display 2 from column A and three from column b or two from column C, you have autism.  There are numerous disorders on the "Autistic Spectrum" which are realted to autism but are different in various ways. One of the biggest differences between some of these disorders and autism is that their causes are known.  Autism, apparently by definition has no known cause.  I tend to think that this will remain the case at least until there is a more of a general consensus of what autism actually is.  So far it is practically synonomous with "unexplained developmental delay",

I do not believe that vaccines cause autism.  The evidence is overwhelmingly against that theory.  What I think is that sympytoms of autism tend to appear, or first become noticeable at a time which happens to coincide with the age at whcih a lot of vaccines are given.  I don't think there is a trigger.  I think it is a condition with which these kids are born. 

One major reason I believe that there is no relationship between vaccines and autism is that if there were, then there would be a physical sign.  We should be able to observe simmilar traits in the brains of those so afflicted as a result of vaccines.  No such sign has been found.  So far, there is not a single trait common to all or even most autistics. Also, independent studies of Ethyl mercury, thought to be the culprit in vaccines, showed know indication that it causes neurological damage. 

Family history is a funny thing.  If you asked any memeber of my family if autism runs in the family, they would most likely say no.  I, however, see behaviour in many of them and myself that looks like much milder versions of those shown by my kid.  I guess I am leaning toword the genetic argument myself.

Paulette - posted on 02/12/2009

The one question at the end should have read...Have all the families with these condition(s) been asked to do a survey to find a reason?