My son (3) w/ autism wont sleep at night....help

Megan - posted on 10/25/2009 ( 54 moms have responded )

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The doctor said to give him 3 mg. of meletonin a night??? any suggestions because i refuse to give him that stuff it says on the bottle for people over the age of 16.......

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Melissa - posted on 11/02/2009

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My son was getting Melatonin at night. It helped him a lot. Melatonin is a natural ingredient, usually found in poulty such as chicken and turkey. A doctor won't recommend anything they would feel "unsafe." As my son got older, on the other hand, we have had to venture in to prescriptions to help him maintain a steady sleep cycle. Sometimes the most minimal interventions, such as the melatonin, are the most effective.

Zee's - posted on 10/31/2009

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Try it. That's not much and it's NOT a drug. it's a replacement for something his body isn't making enough of.

Anne - posted on 10/31/2009

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I give my boys 3 mg. of melatonin and it works fine for them. I started giving it to them around the age of 6 though. when i asked the dr. what to do for sleep issues...he said give then benadryl. but melatonin is all natural, your body already produces it it is not a drug.

Lisa - posted on 10/31/2009

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My kids with ASD have had that problem since they were little too. I give them the melatonin. At GNC, they have a 1 mg tablet that melts in their mouth. It is natural and safe. Melatonin is naturally produced in the brain, and some of our kids just don't produce enough. The stuff at GNC is better than what you can get at Wal Mart or the grocery store. Hope this helps

Jamie - posted on 10/30/2009

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hi sweethart, my 3 year old daughter has autism and does not sleep either, I do the soothing baths and lotion and over the counter sleep aids for kids, nothing worked till I took her to the doctor and they gave her Clonidine Hci 0.1 mg and I give her half 1 hour before bedtime and wow I never thought it would work and I am against pills for kids but I was out of options. Now she sleeps like a normal kid and I sleep now too, and sometimes she does not take it everynight but I know the nights she needs it. It's your child and I know it's scary to think of giving pills to children I am just telling you what worked for me and my 3 year old with autism. It has changed my life, now my daughter is not screaming or roaming the house at 3-4 am she is in bed....good luck...he's a cutie. Jamie

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Claudia - posted on 05/20/2011

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my son had troble sleeping when he was like around 4 and 5 still does but not the same like when he was that age his 9 and also has autism and yes meletoni help alot 1mg i would crush it and give it to him with water .....its a natural meletonin is what the brain creats to make u sleepy and autistic children sometime lake meletonin so it worked for us thank god for it .

Deana - posted on 11/02/2009

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my son is 3.5 and i give melatonin to sleep at night and it works for him plus i also do a weighted blanket.i went thru my pedi for the melatonin we started out with sm dosage now to max for his age..

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Melatonin is a natural substance and it is not bad for the brain, actually it is a great antioxidant. It can help you fall asleep but for my son other factors in his sleep were to much glutamate not enough GABA so we give high doses of Vitamin B6 w/magnesium, Adrenal fatigue so we give adrenal cortex extract and casein sensitivity (when we took him off milk he stopped having night terrors.

Maronica - posted on 11/02/2009

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My son is now 11 but when he was first diagnosed at age 5 he took 1mg then as he needed more I would give him 2 of the 1mg. The only down fall I have to the meletonin is my son will go to bed on time but he would wake up at 5 the next morning and stay up and it also caused some aggression in him. So I would try 1mg first to see how it works with your son and if he starts to act differently don't give it to him anymore.

Paula - posted on 11/01/2009

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We have had the same thing for years. It is a must to get him on a schedule. Make sure you have at least 1 hour of combined cardio play each day if not more. Try winding him down with a night routine. Ours consisted of hot bubble bath with soothing bubble bath that won't irritate. His favorite movie, popcorn, and all lights off. Everyone in house must be calm and not moving around at night time hour. Yes, your entire house hold has to be on board with the program. Slowly he will work into a routine that won't require so much attention to detail. After puberty it does get better believe it or not. If my son does not swim or play for at least 1 to 2 hours a day he wakes up like clock work each nigt at 1:30 and stays awake. Good luck with it. You will get something figured out if not see a doctor to help with that. You need your sleep

Leah - posted on 10/31/2009

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Quoting Megan:

No he is not verbal at all..... he tells me how he wants stuff by pointing and whining. All he wants to do is stay in his room and watch Thomas and Friends lol. He takes naps at like 4 till 6 then stays up till like 2 or 3 in the morning and wakes up at 7 in the morning so he gets hardly any sleep....it is soo hard but i just deal with it. I try to keep a movie playing for him when he goes to sleep or else he will wake up screamimg. he dont like for me nor his father to lay in the bed with him when its time to go to sleep. he wants to be a big boy.


Megan,



    My daughter, Madison, is 9 years old now and we went throught that for years. She has severe Autism. If he has an Autism diagnosis, the best advice I can give you is to get him in a good ABA program.  As one of the other moms said structure and routine is very important to autistic children. I would be happy to give you any other information you'd like to know. Leah

Leah - posted on 10/31/2009

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Quoting Megan:

No he is not verbal at all..... he tells me how he wants stuff by pointing and whining. All he wants to do is stay in his room and watch Thomas and Friends lol. He takes naps at like 4 till 6 then stays up till like 2 or 3 in the morning and wakes up at 7 in the morning so he gets hardly any sleep....it is soo hard but i just deal with it. I try to keep a movie playing for him when he goes to sleep or else he will wake up screamimg. he dont like for me nor his father to lay in the bed with him when its time to go to sleep. he wants to be a big boy.


Megan,



    My daughter, Madison, is 9 years old now and we went throught that for years. She has severe Autism. If he has an Autism diagnosis, the best advice I can give you is to get him in a good ABA program.  As one of the other moms said structure and routine is very important to autistic children. I would be happy to give you any other information you'd like to know. Leah

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Melatonin is worth a try in my humble opinion. I understand as a parent that we don't want to over medicate our children. I've used it and rested well and it doesn't leave that fuzzy awful left over drug feeling the next morning. Could you set some kind of gentle alarm that allows a limited napping time. Have you looked into some kind of respite care for yourself? It would be worth a couple hours a week if you can manage it. You'd be able to sleep during that time. Sleep deprivation makes sound judgement more difficult. I've been through not sleeping and having it make you feel as if your losing your mind. I wish you the best of luck.

Tammy - posted on 10/30/2009

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I have to agree with your doctor on this one. Melatonin is natural produced by the body and is not a drug. Your brain starts producing melatonin the longer you are awake until you fall asleep then it continues to rise for some time and then production starts to fall until you wake up. With autistic children and people with sleep disorders their brains do not produce enough melatonin to put them to sleep or keep them asleep. My Asperger son has been on it several times to regulate his sleep patterns and it has been quite effective, although not as much as clonidine which also helps with his ADHD syptoms and his mood. Your son may be acting act out more because he is exhausted. I hope this helps. Melatonin will not hurt him and it is much safer than any of the alternatives. It is always difficult to feel like you have to give your child something you don't want to, but sometimes it is necessary. Good luck.

Stacey - posted on 10/30/2009

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A homeopath that a friend of mine took her son to said to never use anything Lavender on babies. Apparently lavender is the worst irritant to the skin and will actually speed up breast bud production even in males. If you google lavender and breast buds a lot of things come up.

I have a now seven year old son with autism and we used melatonin in the beginning to help him sleep. He fortunately outgrew it and now is the best sleeper of all my boys. I do know a couple families who take their autistic kids to a chiropractor and that has helped with sleep as well. Good Luck

Chantal - posted on 10/30/2009

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I can totally relate! My daughter only JUST started sleeping a few months ago (and only thru medication). No matter what I tried (no naps, short naps, routine, calming things, etc.) nothing worked. She just had never slept longer than a 4 hr. stretch (if I was lucky). I have been giving my daughter (who just turned 3) Meletonin for a year now (she also has autism). It is perfectly safe to do so. This is per her neurologist as well as her DAN Dr. Unfortunatly, it worked to put her to sleep, but not to keep her sleeping. I started her out on 1/2 mg and she gradually has gone up to 3mg. It is safe to give up to 6mg (per her dr.'s). Her whole life she has not slept well and it really hindered her development even further. I have also had to put her on another prescription medication to get her to rest peacefully,and although I did not want to do that, it has really made all the difference. Sleep is just too important (she hasn't had even one seizure since she has been able to actually get some sleep, and she had them daily). Often what is written on the bottle is because the manufacturer did not want to spend the money on the extended research and studies that would cover children. If you want to try something that you would feel more comfortable with, epsom salt baths seemed to also help. Work up to 1 cup per bath in as hot as water as your child will tolerate. This is very calming and is also a natural chelator. I agree also with those that recommended some white noise. Good Luck!

Joyce - posted on 10/29/2009

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The can be given to children, it is a lot safer than Seraquel which has been given to a friends of ours child whose son only slept 3 hours a night.



We do for our oldest who has ADHD, the lavender oil in the bath tub. You only need about 3 drops it is very strong. Maybe a little lavender lotion, like the baby stuff...



Our youngest son who is considered High Functioning Autistic, we had to put him on Gluten Free. Believe me, WE KNOW IT IS NOT A CURE...... but his sleep has improved dramatically. Before he would go to bed at 8:30pm and wake up between 2am and 4am, and stay up the rest of the day with no naps. He would cycle like this every few weeks... very stressful especially since we are military and the husband was depoyed at the time... He also had difficulty defacating and was constantly constipated. So we tried gluten free and he sleeps like a normal child, and he defacates like normal now, but it is in his sleep when he his most relaxed and he is in a pullup at night.



Try the melatonin

Try lavender oil,

Try a Fisher Price Night Aquarium... one of our neighbors has that as well.

Try a noise maker sometimes the background noise helps.. We had it for the youngest he preferred mother's heart beat.



Hope this helps.



Joyce

Carrin - posted on 10/29/2009

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A developmental pediatrician recommended my 6 year old autistic son take 3mg of melatonin at medtime because he has a hard time falling asleep. I did not want to give him a prescription sedative. He has been taking melatonin now for almost a year. It works great for him and he has not had any negative side effects. His teachers report that he is more rested and his attention span is better. If you are uncomfortable with the does, you can cut the pills in half and give 1 1/2 mg at bedtime. Melatonin is a chemical our bodies are supposed to make on their own, but research has shown that it is common for people with autism to have low levels of melatonin. So by giving it, you are suppling the body with something it is supposed to have and needs. I personally believe this is a much better choice than a prescription sedative or benadryl- which can actually have the opposite affect on may children.

Carol - posted on 10/29/2009

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Megan, My grandson is now 6 years old and he doesn't sleep through the night either and we are about to go into a Sleep Study at Texas Children's Hospital. The books that I've read and parent's that I've spoke with in our same position, state that it is a few years before they will sleep through the night...they have to learn to calm their minds and body down and that's difficult for adults to do at times, can you image what our little people go through.

I bought a Sound Machine for the night and it works well and I also use Lavendar on his body (Lavendar Lotion) Lavendar (Oil) Lavendar (scent in plugs) and spray on his pillow. This helps my grandson and he loves the smell. Also, I use "Calm Child" a liquid from

Pavia Day Spa in San Jose, CA and the taste is wonderful and all natural ingredients.

Now, that my grandson has been diagnosed with High Functioning Autism and ADHD I realize that sleeping a full 8 hours is not going to happen for him at this time and do whatever he needs to make his life secure and consistant...that (in my eyes) is what is most important; not easy for other's I know...just what's best for him.

Again, we will be going to a sleep study soon, so I'll have a report to help out others for updates on medication (if necessary) or other remedies that may assist in your quest.

Just remember, we aren't alone and this website is a blessing and I'm glad that I've been able to read the responses from all the other mom's out ther.

Jen - posted on 10/29/2009

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I have a son that is now 7 and has ASD along with tourettes. I am very much an anti med person but the melatonin is very safe and not habit forming. I used to give mine a half of a 5MG every night about 30min before bed. the lavender in the bath and nice relaxing foot message helped too. I agree with the no TV just some quiet interaction with you and/or your husband...read books or try to color which was hard for my son at that age. Also, we had him tested about a year and half ago with a doctor from CT and he found that our son had lead poisoning which could be where a lot of his problems derived as it causes neurological disorders. So I encourage you to do that test if you have not already done so...I know how frustrated youmust be but it will get better if you just push boundaries as others were saying and get lots of early intervention like, OT, ST behavioral therapy etc... I hope this helps and you are not alone in this process.

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Yeah i don't know if that would be a good idea to give him. Have you taken him to a neurosurgeon doctor yet? One that does testing on the brain to see if there is seizure activity going on? If not i recomend it because my son age 6 now has a seizure disorder that i wasn't even aware of. Also my son's doctor recommended benadryl for him to take on nites he couldn't sleep. I am still having that problem with him. He's on a medicine called Rameron that helps him sleep and i only give it to him when he needs it. Like on nites he's up more then 3 times. If you have a questions i can try to help just let me know

Christine - posted on 10/28/2009

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My son is also Autistic and use to have a sleeping problem.... I used Melatonin, just started him at a half dose to see how it effected him... Melatonin is all natural and all herbal, so it is a natural sleep aid, not a prescribed one, it also is non addictive so you should have some peace of mind with that.... It worked well for us for several years... Also you coult try some sleepy time tea... We used that before we used Meletonin.

Jeannie - posted on 10/28/2009

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HI..i GIVE IT TO ALL MY CHILDREN IT WORKS...MY SON W/ PDD AUTISM/ASPERGERS NOW TAKES CLONIDINE...HE TAKES IT FOR HIS ANXIETY BUT I KNOW IT IS ALSO USED FOR SLEEP...HOPE THAT HELPS. GOOD LUCK

Shana - posted on 10/28/2009

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My autistic son rarely slept at night until we started him on Clonidine. He is at the very lowest dose but he now sleeps 8 hours every night. Wish I had solutions that simple for the other issues in his life!

Candice - posted on 10/28/2009

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I give my daughter 3mg of meletonin at night. Meletonin is a natural occuring substance in the brain that helps people go to sleep. It is perfectly safe. It is like giving them teething tablets. Only meletonin is natural to their bodies.

Mary - posted on 10/28/2009

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Good Luck my son is 3 and has autism and wont sleep Its hard to deal with too

Shamika - posted on 10/28/2009

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hi...i have an autisic daughter who is going on five in december and i too had the same problem...i did try the meletonin and it did work, however it's not necessary...try keepin the nap time between 12 and 2, and try giving a warm bath to help him relax before bed....try alcohol baths, or if you want put him in the shower and put a little rubbing alcohol on his wash cloth with soap before you wash you wash him...it's soothing, and it usually relaxes them enough for them to go to sleep....question? does he sleep alone, and or do you allow him to sleep with the light on...sometimes light and noise from the television destracts them and keep them awake...try a night light if you don't want him to be completely in the dark so he can relax and get some rest...and for you cause trust me i know it's exausting...good luck sweet heart, and let me know if i can help....babytrainsmoke@hotmail.com

Valerie - posted on 10/28/2009

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My daughter is three years and I was also told when she was 2 to give her 1mg of melantonin. I did and at first it seemed to help relax her so that she could fall asleep. This however, did not last. I kept pushing for an explanation of why she could not sleep at night or was so restless when she did fall asleep. We found out several months ago that she was having focal seizures in her sleep. We had an MRI that was normal at age 2 so this was a complete shock to my family.

Thomasine - posted on 10/28/2009

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I just read u do let him take naps but u wake him up, instead of letting him sleep late in the morning wake him up earlier instead of letting him sleep till 9 try waking him up at 7 then maybe he will take a nap earlier in the day instead of later. Hope that helps i know the feeling having to get up and keep checking on them or putting them back in the bed.

Thomasine - posted on 10/28/2009

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My daughter is 3 and has Autism and the only time she does'nt sleep is if she has a nap. I could control it at home but now she is in school, so they let her nap until 1 and 2, so all i hear is mom i ca't sleep late at night. If you can don't let him nap late or as long.

Deanna - posted on 10/28/2009

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I remember those nights. My son cried for hours and hours and nothing I could do would comfort him. I had to sleep on the hard floor of the living room with him for almost 2 years. Does he like his back scratched or have you tried brushing techniques.The Wilbarger Brushing Technique. My son is 12 now but I scratch his back, head and arms every night and it helps him fall asleep. It usually is about five to 10 minutes to relax him. If you use firm pressure this may help. Someone else suggested a weight blanket. That is a good idea. Some autistic children don't like to be held or touched gently and you need to apply more pressure. This helps calm their nervous system. Hope this helps. :)

Julie - posted on 10/28/2009

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I have a 4 year old with autism that won't sleep either. They told me to give him 3 ml. of melatonin and he has done fine with it. It even helped for a while but now he's getting back into not sleeping. He goes for a sleep study the 28th. Whatever suggestions I get from them I will pass on to you. I know what your going through and will help however I can. Hang in there. ~HUGS~

Crystal - posted on 10/27/2009

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My son has autism as well & has had trouble sleeping all his life. He is 14 now. I have given him melatonin for many years & he has had no side effects that I can tell. When he was 4 the dr put him on clonidine which is a blood pressure med to help him sleep. I had to monitor his bp & pulse closely at night. So I chose the melatonin route because it seems safer. You can try benadryl but my son has adverse reactions to that, it boost him up instead of makin him sleepy.

Megan - posted on 10/27/2009

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Well i just talked to a pharmist last night and he told me meletonin is not good to use that we should use the ginko buloba or how ever it is spelt because it has meletonin in it and that just giving him the meletonin could mess his brain up later in life and could aslo shorten his life span.... scary!!!!

Amber - posted on 10/27/2009

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We started our daughter on meletonin at the age of 4 and she is still on it. Our doctor prescribed it when he found out that she was not sleeping at night. No side effects what so ever.

Megan - posted on 10/27/2009

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OK thank you to everybody I actually got him to go to bed at 9 and he done very well no problems at all.I gave him a warm bath then I just turned his movie off and me and his father gave him night night suger then I told him its bed time so he crawled in his bed and fell right asleep!!! he slept all night!!!! he woke up at 9 and was in a way better mood!! so thanks to everybody for the suggestions!!

IESHA - posted on 10/27/2009

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My son is 13 an this has been going on for years [imagine how i feel] but things have gotten better. Before bed give him something to eat, thats gonna stick to his belly then put him in a nice warm bath with calming bodywash [johnson makes a good one]. Just try it it may or maynot work. I hope for the best.

Pam - posted on 10/26/2009

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megan, i have given my son, age 8, melatonin with no adverse side effects. i crush it and put it in a drink before bedtime. he went thru a several week period where he wasn't sleeping or was averaging about an hour a nite. i'm not about using medication with our kiddos, but it was my undertanding from our specialist that it's a natural supplement. i only had to use it a few times and he is now back on a regular sleep pattern. just a thought...

Paulette - posted on 10/26/2009

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Good luck tonight I hope you can find that one thing that works well. It really is a matter of trial and error. I tried so many things too but eventually a combination of things worked and thank god they all sleep really well now.

Veronica - posted on 10/26/2009

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My son started on Melatonin, but you don't have to give him 3 mg. It does come in a 1 mg dose if you are thinking about strting him on it.

Megan - posted on 10/26/2009

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Thanks to all of you i am going to try something new tonight and see how it works and let yall know tomorrow thank you!!!

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You might want to try a weighted blanket from an OT....it might give him a sense of comfort that will help. Also, have you tried white noise? My son has a fan that we keep on. This probably sounds a little wacky, but I use a pretend voice (his action figures) and they say, we are going to sleep now! He is verbal, so he says good night to them...I sometimes even hear him trying to "wake them up." lol



You must be exhausted, so I hope you are able to find something that works. Remember, with some things it will get worse before it gets better. If you cut down the movies, he WILL respond...but maybe replace it with the fan. The humm might help!



Sheila.

Magen - posted on 10/26/2009

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Then maybe staying in the hall outside his door, and when you hear him out of bed just walk in and place him back in bed and tell him "its time to sleep now" and walk back out. For the screaming I would check on him in 5, 10 then 15 minute intervals without getting him out of bed make sure he is ok reasure him that he is safe and tell him its time to sleep then leave. If you have tried all of these things and none of them work maybe it is time for the melatonin. If you are using a DAN dr you can feel pretty sure that they are recomending things that are safe for autistic children. also Melatonin is not a drug but a naturally occuring hormone that regualtes sleep cycles. I completely understand your reluctance of medication I will not put my son on anything that is not natural and safe but your son needs sleep . Remeber nothing that was recomended is an instant fix and will take weeks to months to fully work but if you have already tried them all extensively and none of the lifestyle changes work then you have to do what is best for your child and that could be the supplements of melatonin.

Megan - posted on 10/26/2009

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he doesnt want us in the room at all when he is ready for bed. i do wake him up from his naps if i dont he will sleep for 4 hours or so.

Magen - posted on 10/26/2009

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GOOD FOR YOU on the no caffine I just cringe when I see kids drinking tea and soda. Try shortening the amount of sleep he gets during the day. At nap time don't let him sleep until he wakes up wake him up. I recomend 1/2 an hour a week until they are completely eliminated or he is sleeping through the night. He may still need a short nap during the day but not 2 hours. Also 4 in the afternoon is kind of late for a nap if he is getting up at 7am. Try moving nap time (1/2 an hour at a time) to an earlier time. This will help him not sleep as long during nap and help him be tired earlier for bed. I completely understand the desire to let him sleep as long as possible during the day because this is a break for you. I was there once too and no one is judging you we only want to help. I also understand the meltdowns and the urge to do whats easiest. But I am telling you while the movie seems to make it easier it maybe keeping his brain from reaching appropriate sleep levels.You might try sitting on the floor near his bed until he is nearly asleep. Since he doesn't want you in bed with him, this will allow you to keep him in bed and not playing with his toys at bedtime and he may feel safer this way. Then if this works gradually move closer to the door until you can put him in bed and walk out. These are methods I have tried and they worked for me.

Megan - posted on 10/26/2009

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he gets no caffine..... how am i supposed to stop him from napping if i try to take him somewhere to do something he acts out.... and if i just try to play with him to keep him up he starts trying to hit me and stuff... if i just let him play with his toys he falls asleep while playing.... i have tryed to stop his naps doesnt work. the movie is the only thing that keeps him from going crazy before bedtime and trust me he has a really bad attitude and its not because i spoil him and let him do what ever....

Magen - posted on 10/26/2009

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I would agree with stopping naps. My autistic son stopped getting naps at like 18 months because he wouldn't sleep through the night. People thought I was crazy not giving him naps but he slept through the night (like 10 hours) when we stopped giving naps. Also try lavender and vanilla linen spray from Bath and Body works or a similar product. Just spray it on the bed and pillows about 10 or 15 minutes before bed. Also if we have had a particularly bad day lavender oil in a bath an hour before bed helps him relax. Movies should stop at least an hour before bed time as they stimulate the brain and keeps it active when it should start slowing down. We also discovered that music at night didn't work for him either (too much stimulation). Night lights helped him not be scared. Try to keep him as active as possible during the day to wear him out. And trying to help him be more verbal will help in the long run. You may also want to reduce sugar and eliminate any caffine if he gets any.I hope these help Good Luck.

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stop the naps, encourage him to go to the park with praise and stickers (which should tire him) have activities that are fun will tire him out and will stop the naps, movies must go off at night after say half an hour, the whining and pointing is something most children will do if they can get away with it, have you tried symbol pictures for different situations and then getting him to say the words, so for juice/drink get the picture point to it but he must say it before you give it to him (this is an example) picture symbols work very well as they use them in my sons special school. Special needs children need boundaries & rules much more so than 'normal' children as there is a high possibility of manipulation which can get out of hand, I am in no way saying that you have to be strict but remember that by hard work you can achieve a better routine for your family, good luck x

Megan - posted on 10/26/2009

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No he is not verbal at all..... he tells me how he wants stuff by pointing and whining. All he wants to do is stay in his room and watch Thomas and Friends lol. He takes naps at like 4 till 6 then stays up till like 2 or 3 in the morning and wakes up at 7 in the morning so he gets hardly any sleep....it is soo hard but i just deal with it. I try to keep a movie playing for him when he goes to sleep or else he will wake up screamimg. he dont like for me nor his father to lay in the bed with him when its time to go to sleep. he wants to be a big boy.

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Lavander oil is supposed to be calming - maybe a plug in one may work, also routine like bath, warm milk/hot chocolate, story - sometimes a cuddle with your child but make sure they are not totally asleep just drowsy when you leave the room or the last thing they remember is you with them when they fall asleep and when you are not there when they wake up they then panic/get upset - again persevering with this makes it all worthwhile in the end.

Paulette - posted on 10/26/2009

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Hi Megan you must be exhausted. I have a 5 year old with PDDNOS and a 3 and 1 year old both showing similar traits who are being monitored. I find it really hard if my kids won't go to sleep or keep waking up. They have all gone through stages of both but luckily none have lasted as long as 2 years. Is your child verbal? Can he tell you why he doesn't want to sleep? Does your son sleep at all during the day? I have actually found not having a set bed time and just waiting until mine got tired has helped because now they ask to go to bed and for me to tuck them in and read a story. My kids are all scared of the dark too so I just let them all (except the baby) sleep with their lights on all night which seems to have helped as well. I hope you find something that works for your son soon. Good Luck.

Megan - posted on 10/25/2009

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routine has been tried for 2 years now yet he still sits in his room for hours screaming or playing....

Jennifer - posted on 10/25/2009

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well have you tried a routine? We have a little play time then we have bath time then bruching out teeth, then good nites to dad and brother. then a book or two. by then he is well aware that it is time for bed. but i know if we miss the routine at all it is very difficult for him into bedtime. the transion w/o the routine creates a big problem. it might take a little while to get him into one, but it will be easier once you do have one. tell him before hand as well..."5 min tell we get ready for bed"...."3 min tell bed" it helps them be ready for the transion, not so overwelmed by it. that maybe what is keeping him up... ps you go mom..i dont allow my son to have any meds where just a little diffrent actions are taken can create the change in behaivor we want

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