Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on the H1N1 flu shot, are you getting your kids immunized

Kim - posted on 10/26/2009 ( 9 moms have responded )

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What are your reasons behind getting your child immunized or not not getting them done. I just read a few interesting articles about the swine flu outbreak in 1976, a lot of sideeffects to getting the shot

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Pia - posted on 10/27/2009

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In Australia children under 10 aren't allowed to get the swine flu vaccine. Even if they could, I am not getting it for my son for a few reasons. A, we are coming into summer here, so the risk of flu is lower. B, we don't live in an area where there is a large rate of swine flu victims, and of those who have got it, only a handful have died, and these people have all had pre-existing medical conditions.

I may be wrong about this, but the next flu shot will have a H1N1 strand in it anyway. They redevelop the flu shot every year and because swine flu has been the dominant flu this season, they will add it. Please, feel free to correct me if i am wrong.

Sara - posted on 10/27/2009

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In 1976, after the death of a US army recruit triggered fears of a repeat of the deadly 1918 pandemic, around 48 million Americans were given a swine flu vaccine. Of these, 532 developed Guillain-Barré syndrome, a paralytic condition caused by rogue antibodies attacking nerve cells. Most people recover from Guillain-Barré, but not all; 25 died after 1976 and others suffered lasting damage.



The 1976 vaccine caused around 10 cases per million vaccinated. Even ordinary flu vaccines, however, are thought to cause one extra case of Guillain-Barré per million, in addition to the 10 to 20 per million who get Guillain-Barré some other way every year.



Does this mean it is safer not getting vaccinated? Absolutely not. First, there is the risk of swine flu killing you. Second, what few people know is that flu itself is far more likely to cause Guillain-Barré than any flu vaccine.



A 2009 study found that out of every million people who get flu, between 40 and 70 develop Guillain-Barré. So your best chance of avoiding Guillain-Barré is to get vaccinated, a conclusion backed by a 2007 study.



The vaccine risk is also diminishing. Cases of Guillain-Barré in the US have fallen 20 per cent since 1996, and cases reported after flu vaccination have fallen by 60 per cent. Intriguingly, this coincides with a fall in infections by the food poisoning bacterium Campylobacter, thanks to improved meat hygiene. Guillain-Barré usually follows infections, and Campylobacter is the main cause. It is also endemic among chickens, and flu vaccines are grown in chicken eggs. So the occasional contamination of flu vaccines with Campylobacter proteins might explain the link with Guillain-Barré, according to a 2004 study.



That is reassuring, if true. If the problem in 1976 was contamination rather than some property of the virus, there is no reason to expect a repeat. There has never been a similar problem with any other vaccine. And almost all the pandemic vaccines now being given in the US, the UK and Australia are being made in the same plants and in the same way as ordinary flu vaccines.





Flu vaccines are not perfect, but their efficacy and safety have been demonstrated over and over again in the peer-reviewed medical research. All the anti-government and anti-corporate rhetoric in the world is no substitute for scientific evidence.



Fear the quacks. Fear the conspiracy theories. Fear not the flu shot.



I have been vaccinated, my 1 year old and husband will be getting vaccinated against H1N1.

Julia - posted on 10/27/2009

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For the past 7 years I have gotten the flu shot every year. I have been pregnant 5 times (2 miscarriages) in the last 7 years and still got the flu shot when I was pregnant. The cases of children dying (4 alone in a 2 week period here where I live) and pregnant women dying (6% of all cases of swine flu deaths and only 1% of the population of the US is pregnant) I am getting it done for myself, my husband, my 5 mth old and my 3 yr old. As for long term effects of the H1N1 shot, IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL FLU SHOT, H1N1 IS ONLY A DIFFERENT STRAND OF THE FLU, it has been said by the CDC that if the epidemic had come out sooner they would have just added the H1N1 strand to the normal flu shot and not had a separate shot for it. So there aren't going to be long term effects from the H1N1 shot as there are no long term effects from the normal flu shot.

Stacy - posted on 10/27/2009

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This is such a crazy topic. I'm so torn between getting it done and not. I get told from 1 dr. to get it and then another dr. sys he's not getting it and either are his kids. The possible long term side affects scare me, but so does the possibility of getting the flew. My kids are 3 yrs. and 5.5 month, and I am type1 diabetic so we're all on the priority list. I just feel like no matter what I choose to do, it's gonna be the wrong decision.

Ashley - posted on 10/26/2009

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I will be getting my son immunized. I too have done a lot of research.

Yes the H1N1 outbreak in 1976 produced an injection that had a 1:1000000 chance of getting Gullien-Barre Syndrome. However it has been improved since then!

The reason I am getting it is because it worries me that H1N1 is killing mostly babies to young adults, and mainly being perfectly healthy. That is just something I am not comfortable with.

Whether or not you decide to get the vaccine, use proper hygeine. Wash your hands often, and wash your children's hands (baby wipes for babies), and use hand sanitizer (none for small children). Lysol objects used often in your house like door handles, phones, faucet handles, t.v. remotes, etc. Try to stay away from sick people until they have gone without a fever for 24 hours (without the use of medicine). If you go shopping, use the wipes given, and if there is a cart at the store, use a cart seat cover.

Unfortunately, this forum may become ugly, like so many I have seen.

I just suggest doing as much research as possible for both sides.

Good luck on your decision! :)

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Sara - posted on 10/27/2009

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Pia, I think from what I've read it is different in Australia...sounds to me like you've really tried to educate yourself and made a decision that is right for your family. Enjoy you're summer!

Sandy - posted on 10/26/2009

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I am not, I don't trust the vaccine. I think that there hasn't been enough research on it and I don't want my son to be a guinea pig. He doesn't go to daycare, so I don't have to worry about sick kids.

Shakira - posted on 10/26/2009

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I am not getting my son the shot, its too unproven and rushed this season and that has given me pause. I got the normal flu shot when I was 38 weeks pregnant so he will be protected against that. I just feel there has not been enough research about this shot to give it to an infant.

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