When to start a routine with baby?

Mattee - posted on 12/26/2009 ( 59 moms have responded )

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How old was your baby when you started a daily routine as far as naps feeding, bed fot the night etc... and also, do you thinks it helps them sleep better at night once they're older?

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Lequita - posted on 01/01/2010

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i think that the best time to start a schedule with your baby is when he or she or they are at least 2 to 3 months old. this has given them time to settle in to their new environment and get acquainted with the people around them. make notes of when you have the most energy and when baby is at their peak. alter your schedule according to that.

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Erin, it sounds to me that you don't really follow a set routine for sleep, except the pattern your baby has shown a preference for. I was referring to mothers that put their babies down for a naps and night sleep at exactly the same time everyday regardless of what their baby is telling them about how tired they are. I was also referring to mothers that wake their babies because a long sleep is not in their 'routine'. Believe it or not some mothers read books on sleep training and then force their babies to sleep (or not sleep) at certain times. For these babies I say poor babies as these instances usually result in tears and distressed babies. :(

As for scheduled feeding times, perhaps our difference of opinion stems from they way we feed our babies. I am thinking that your baby is bottle fed (am I correct??). I breastfeed. I have never used formula, not with my 2 year old - who still breastfeeds, or my 4 month old. So maybe the scheduled feeds are for bottle fed babies. Is this right? This actually sounds easier to me than demand feeding. Feeding on demand means you are available 24 hours a day and your plans often change at any given minute if bubba is hungry. I still feel for babies that are on scheduled feeds though, even if it is for a reason. It’s summer here in Australia at the moment and everyday has been 32 degrees +. I couldn’t imagine not giving my baby a little breast milk every hour or so. I also know that you can not over feed a breastfed baby. Breast milk actually digests within an hour or so, it is specifically designed for your baby (each mother produces the exact combination of nutrients, fat etc that their baby requires) and it's kind of the way we as a human race were designed to feed our babies, so I must strongly disagree with your comment about babies not being fed on demand.

Can I also say that both my children, routine free and fed on demand, are very healthy, happy babies. They have no digestion/stomach or weight problems and can clearly distiguish night time sleep from daytime sleep.

Lise - posted on 01/05/2010

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Quoting Belinda:

Are routines really for a baby or the mother??? I believe the best parenting style is listening and responding to your baby and their cues. Do we eat, sleep, and ‘play’ at the same time everyday. No - we're not robots. Babies are people!! Sometimes they are hungrier than others, sometimes they are just extra thirsty, sometimes they need more sleep and other times they don't. What happens when life gets in the way of your 'strict routine’? Most 'routine' parents that I know freak out when things don't go as planned.

Don't get me wrong, both my children have daytime naps. My 4 month old naps 3 or four times a day, whenever he tells me he is tired and his naps are anywhere from 45 mins to 3 hours. He goes to bed at night between 6 and 7pm (when he is tired) and gets up between 5 and 6am. My two year old has a nap everyday between 11 and 12.30. She'll always sleep for 2 - 3 hours and then her bedtime is around 7pm (when she shows me she is tired) and she wakes between 5.30 and 6.30 am.

Everyone is right when they say babies like to know what to expect (eg; I'm tired - put me to sleep; I'm hungry - feed me, ie. a predictable set of feelings/behaviours and then consequent actions,) but a routine with schedule feeding and sleep times I think not! Poor babies :(


 



I believe they're for the mom...  I follow my baby's cues.  Just like I'd like to do my own and not be told when to eat/sleep/etc.

Coleen - posted on 01/05/2010

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from the moment i gave them their first bottle...hahah.Babies seem to be these delicate little creatures that need to be wrapped in cotton wool..they aren't. Sure you need to be gentle and nurturing with them but they are stronger than we think. I have had 4 and pretty much after I gave them their first bottle it started. They would wake at whatever time that would be, I would first change the nappy, then feed them - bring up their wind, then they pretty much went straight back to sleep. The second bottle of the day(a bit later in the morning), I would then give them their bath,a new set of clothes, a bottle then straight back to sleep. All of my children slept for 4-6 hours anyway, so they pretty much set the routine with me. I was apprehensive with my first as she was such a text book baby(all of mine were really),because ppl say that babies sleep for four hours at a time..blah,blah(my sisters' babies did the same thing so I kinda knew that).....but my first daughter use to sleep for 6,so when I was in hospital I asked the nurse if this was ok(I thought there was something wrong with her..lol)as the othe babies seem to be awake alot of the time. She said no it was a heaven sent and that I was lucky she did that.She also told me to let her sleep and she would wake up when she was ready.So I let her do that, although the nurse said to maybe wake her after 6 hrs.I never did ,I let her wake on her own accord.You must remember there is no right or wrong way of raising your baby,for the first 3 months I pretty much let her get her sleep and come into this world comfortably.After that sleep patterns work themselves out. I would go and do my shopping after her second bottle for the day(the first was usually about 4 0'clock in the morning.),when she had her bath and a change of clothes and she would sleep the whole time in transit,shopping everything. Then by the time I got home she was due for another, I would give her the bottle ,then yep back to sleep again. This routine pretty much carried through with all of my children. You rest when they rest,it was great. It changed slightly when I had my son...boy what a guts! He fed every 2hrs for the first 3 months,that was a bit tiring but eventually he did the same thing.As they grow older they are more curious and want to stay awake a little bit longer and they explore looking at things,hearing different sounds more play time. I use have my stereo on, vacuum,washing machine going the lot, I never tried to be quiet for them as I wanted them to know that the day still goes on, housework doesnt do itself!..I certainly didnt have wild parties but there are certain noises that they adapted to on a daily basis..Its important for you to try and continue as normal a life as possible because they do adapt.As they grew, I set a routing for them from about 1 yr old, that after breakfast and a morning bath,a little bit of a play,maybe get some shopping done or do some running around,probably by about 11.00,give them a light snack then sleepies!.They would sleep for a couple of hours or so,then up again ,give them a drink some lunch,let them crawl around and play for a while,by about 3.00 they were ready for playtime in the bath(I would bath and play around with them a little longer in the bath,some dinner, a little more play then by 7.00 bed!.This might seem a bit surreal, but I guess I was fortunate to have good kids.Up until they were about 5yrs old,their eating systems changed slightly but I still made them have a daily sleep...I have four children and they all go to bed at 7.30 at night - even my 15 yr old, as they have school and there's certainly not much on tv for kids after that anyway. The systems in play are totally up to the individual and their lifestyle, this suited me it also helped when I went back to work and my family would take care of them while I was there because between their eating times,sleeping times and play times suited all involved,and they kept up with the routine as I did......

Shelley - posted on 01/03/2010

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I started a routine with bedtime/baths right away. In the beginning I would give her a bath around 6 pm, then she would eat and be in bed for the night. As she has gotten older bedtime/bathtime has been pushed back to about seven. As far as feeding her durring the day and taking naps...I let her nurse on demand, and naps on demand. Now she is eight months old and she eats breakfast in the morning around 7:30 to eight, lunch around noon, and dinner around 6-6:30. She bottle feeds in between those times and naps usually two half hour naps durring the day. I didn't force her on a strict schedule because I wanted her to be flexable and not freak out if she was off tract for a day. Several friends of ours have really enforced strict schedules on their babies and were not able to go out for a night or come over for dinner and movie or whatever because their babies were so sensitive to a change in their schedule that they really freaked out when there was a change.

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Coleen - posted on 01/05/2010

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keeping them awake for a little more play time during the day especially as they grow,makes it a bit easier for them to go sleep at night - and stay asleep!...hahha

Carrie - posted on 01/05/2010

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my son is 4 months n he is sleeping 9-7 wakes up has a bottle n then relaxes maybe tummy time n then i read him a lil book until he gets a lil bit more tired n then he goes 2 sleep wakes up 2hrs. later... at night i give him a bath a 4oz. bottle n he goes right 2 sleep =]

Tracy - posted on 01/05/2010

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in this book i have called "the sleep easy solution" which I may add saved my life lmao...they said it's good to start when the baby is either 14lbs and 4 months old. at 14lbs they don't need a night feeding anymore. My baby still wanted a night feeding but they have a weaning process in the book.

Amelia - posted on 01/05/2010

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Quoting Kalsum :

Sounds like a very sensible approach. I would like my son to be on some kind of schedule so I can have time to do the other things around the house. With my son it looks as if everyday is a different day. The only thing that goes per schedule is that he will wake up at 11 pm and not sleep until 4am. From 4 am he'll sleep until noon with waking up for feedings every couple of hours. He will be 3 months on the 5th of January.



Is that the type of routine you want? i would say that if you want him to sleep through the night, then wake him up when u want him awake and give him the oppurtunity to sleep when u want him asleep. not telling u what to do just some advice as my son sleeps 12 hours a night and is still breastfed at 6 months

Tasha - posted on 12/31/2009

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When my son was born there was no routineabout him. I done everything n demand and this included feeding every 2-3 hours. Its their bodies that tell them when they are hungry, they dont want fed out of boredom. When Christopher was 8 weeks old I out him into his own room in his cot, and this was the best decision I ever made as from that night he has slept longer. I started bathinh him at 8pm, then giving him a little bit of baby porridge and a bottle, then putting him to bed. Insted of waking every 2-3 hours for a feed he got up at 3am, then back down until around 8pm. As he adjusted to this routine, I began to put him to bed earlier. He is now in bed sleeping by half 7 every night. Some nights he would sleep right through and some nghts he would still wake for a bottle, it just depends. Now he is 6 months and I also stick to a routine on feeding....He gets baby cereal at 10am with a 6z bottle, at 1pm he gets a baby jar of lunch and a dessert with juice, at around 3pm he will get another 6oz bottle, at 5.30pm, he will get his dinner jar an dessert with juice, then its back to his night time routine.



I think it is good for babies to be in a routine, for themselves so they can judge what part of the day it is and also for the parents as they can be more organised.

Lise - posted on 12/30/2009

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My little one is 2.5 months, and I just follow her lead. We have a routine when I notice she's tired - I change her, rock her, sing to her, nurse her, and put her to bed. She started sleeping through the night on her own, and she's worked out her own basic pattern (an approp time she naps, approx lengths of naps, etc.), but they change whenever she goes through a growth spurt or makes an advancement (like when she started rolling over and creeping). She changes then, and so do her sleeping and eating routines.

Tiffany - posted on 12/30/2009

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My daughter is 10 months old and has been on a flexable sched. since she was born... breakfast between 8-9 am, lunch between 1230-1, dinner between 4-5, then a bath and bed by 7-730... baby's do like routines but things (like daycare) make that a little hard. a fexable one seems to be easier bc ur not always hungry at the same times and ur not always tired at the same time either... But try and no matter what keep them on a sleep sched. for there bed time..... and personally i found it better not to keep everyone quiet when the baby is sleeping b/c then the slightest thing will wake them (my kid sleeps through 2 dogs barking even if they're in her room)

Julie - posted on 12/30/2009

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yes.. but u and eveyone in the house has to be willing to work around the routine by keeping it down and truning the lights off and stuff, my son is 2 and i've had him on a routine since he's been 10months he acts so much better

Heather - posted on 12/30/2009

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All routines aren't bad.... we had to start a routine asap when my son was born - he was a month early & was pretty sleepy so he'd sleep rather than eat & we had to wake him up every 2.5-3 hours to eat.... he wasn't gaining weight without our intervention. We intended to do a routine but didn't realize we'd just fall into it that way - I realize for most babies they don't sleep that much at first but routines aren't always bad for the poor hungry babies like some of you have said. And yes - I was BFing him on a schedule.... it can be done!

With the routine we have a happy, cheerful 13 mo old who sleeps from 7:30pm to 8am (or as late as 9:30 in the am).... he takes 2 good naps (2 hrs) during the day still. I don't have a hard & fast routine where I wake him up at 8am and force him to go down for a nap at 9:30..... if he sleeps until 8:30 he naps at 10:30 instead. Bedtime is always 7:30 - used to be 8 but we had to move it up. We tried to keep him up just a bit longer on Christmas Eve & at 7:30 he went to the stairs & sat down to wait for us to take him up to bed! Now - that said... if we have somewhere to be - I make sure he's up, put him down for a nap earlier or wake him up from one if I need to & because he's got such a good routine he isn't cranky when I do that.

Good luck!

Katy-louise - posted on 12/30/2009

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as soon as i got home i started routine as soon as you start one its so much easier they become easily settled my son now only wakes up twice a night but hes always been good and hes only 2 wk old x

Melissa - posted on 12/30/2009

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I think a good mix of routine and flexibility is important. I'm only a first time mom, but my background is in child care (I have a degree in elementary ed and have worked with kids in infancy, toddlerhood, elementary, and high school age groups). For example, I breastfeed my baby (she's 4 months old) roughly every 2-4 hours, so I have kind of a general idea of when she'll be hungry again. She's a cat-napper, so around an hour and a half after she's woken up from one nap she's ready for another. Bedtime is around 6-7:30p and wake-up is around 6:30-8a, with feedings at about 10-11p and 3-4a. All that being said, I don't refuse to feed my baby if she seems hungry a little early, and I don't ever wake her up to feed her if she's gone past the 4 hour mark. It's all about getting to know your baby and what his or her needs are. He or she will definitely let you know if they are too tired or hungry (one warning: if you are breastfeeding and doing so too often, your baby won't get enough hindmilk, which is richer in fat and nutrients... that might be something to talk to your pediatrician about). I think it's important not to make your child's day too regimented, or else changes (traveling, holidays, babysitters, etc.) are going to be more difficult.

Kelsey - posted on 12/29/2009

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I dont quite remember how old she was, Im guessing around 3 months, maybe 4. My best advise is to let them lead the routine the most you can. I didnt force any routine w my daughter, she did it all by herself, shes 6 mos now and sleeps 12 hours 7:30-7:30 and takes 2-3 2hour naps per day, usually around the same times. I think its very important they get enough sleep during the day in order to get a good nights sleep. If theyre sleep deprived, it actually makes it harder for them to sleep well at night. Try not to put her down and make her sleep when shes not tired, or itll make things worse, and a schedule will be harder to figure out. Just wait till shes tired and she will do it all on her own.

Krystal - posted on 12/29/2009

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Quoting Renae:

Most behaviourists and infant sleep experts recommend starting a routine at 12-14 weeks or whenever it is that your baby drops a night feed and is able to sleep a little longer at night. Yes a routine will help them sleep better when they are older, but more because you continue having a routine from now on, it doesnt mean that if you dont have a routine now they wont sleep when they are older. I believe that your routine should be based on your babies natural internal clock in regards to when your baby is naturally hungry and tired. Your baby will almost always be hungry after a similar amount of time of not being fed, and tired after a similar amount of time of being awake, so you can simply watch your baby and develop your routine around what they naturally do. I hope that made sense! Some people think that routine is about forcing your baby to do certain things at certain times but the truth is that no routine is like that because that never works, you just end up with a crying baby.

Also remember that babies sleep needs (amount of day sleep required and length of time able to stay awake between naps) change at 3, 6, 10 and 12 months (on average, sometimes more sometimes less) so it is normal to have to continually adjust your routine when your baby starts showing signs that they need different amounts of sleep. Someone mentioned the book Save Our Sleep, very good routines in there and also The Secrets of the Baby Whisperer has a good routine too.


Save our Sleep is what i started Wil on. Tizzie has based her routines by watching the natural routines of hundreds of babies so she hasnt just decided that this is when a baby should eat, play and sleep. She also caters for growth spurts with extra feedings etc and encourages you to get out of the house on a routine. She also offers advice on different problems you may encounter like catnapping, breast refusal, colic etc

Krystal - posted on 12/29/2009

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Its not about leaving the "poor babies" if they are hungry or tired. By feeding on a schedule they learn to take more at each feed and subsequently are not hungry. Same goes with naps. If they are kept up just 15mins longer it can counteract catnapping and they start to increase their sleeping times. Not saying that im right. God only knows ive had some questions sinc my son but this is what i have found worked for me. As long as wil goes down around the same time and is fed around the same times he hasnt a need to cry. His routine at the moment (he's 10mths) is...



7ish awake and BF

8ish Breaky

3 - 3.5hrs after he woke - Sleep for approx 1hr 15

Drink/snack when he wakes

12ish Lunch

1ish BF

2.30 - 3 ish - Sleep for another 1hr 15

Drink water when wakes or when he wants it

5ish Tea

6pm Bath

630ish BF

7pm Bed

Yes he doesnt sleep thru every night. He has had severe eczema and now food allergies to contend with but having the routine and him knowing he can self settle (ie put himself to sleep) definately helps heaps. No rocking, patting, feeding him to sleep. This helps with night wakings too as he doent expect the props to get him back to sleep.

Nicole - posted on 12/29/2009

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I started doing a daily routine 3 days before she turned 7 weeks old. After 3 days of being consistant, she started sleeping through the night! I'm sure it's harder for some babies, but it's all about consistancy! At 7 weeks she was sleeping 7 hours trough the night, and then every couple of weeks we would tack another hour on. She has been sleeping from 7pm - 7 am from the time she was 4 months old :)

Erin - posted on 12/29/2009

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Well you did say " I do believe you cannot set a routine for a child as they may not be hungry when you decide to feed them or not tired when you decide it's nap time. I don't agree with parent's deciding routine's around there own needs, I personally believe it's selfish and if you'd rather an easier life of making a baby do what you want rather than what they want to satify your own needs first then you shouldn't have kids". Some mothers have to set childrens routines because they need them in order to work and single mothers need them to be able to run errands and get things around the house done. Remember people from ALL walks of life use "circle of moms" and it was designed for moms to help moms. Give advice and opinions but not to tell people your way is the right way and only way and if people don't do it your way they shouldn't have children. I don't agree with other parenting styles but I would never say that they are wrong and shouldn't be mothes, like they love their child less because they don't do things my way. I was just letting you know that you really could have offended a lot of people on here so I would just try and be a little more careful and be a supporting friend on here :). No need to bash other peoples parenting because there's all different styles on here.



It took about 3 days for my daughter to be set on a routine. She never cried and screamed to be fed if that's what "feed on demand" moms are thinking. If I could tell she was starting to get a little fussy and it was still an hour or less to her feeding time I would entertain her with her & play til the time came. Then after 3 days of that she was set on a routine and loves it. If a baby is screamig in need of food I don't believe that should be neglected but realize usually when moms say they set their babies on routines there was no vulgar or mean negelcting which some people make it sound like. :) everyone has their own style and what works for them, whatever creates healthy & happy baby with a happy & healthy momma is whats best for that particular family.



Good luck Mattee! Babies are amazing and before long will probably show you the routine they are comfortable with and do all the hard work for you! :)

Mattee - posted on 12/29/2009

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Quoting Kalsum :

Sounds like a very sensible approach. I would like my son to be on some kind of schedule so I can have time to do the other things around the house. With my son it looks as if everyday is a different day. The only thing that goes per schedule is that he will wake up at 11 pm and not sleep until 4am. From 4 am he'll sleep until noon with waking up for feedings every couple of hours. He will be 3 months on the 5th of January.



How frustrating!

Kalsum - posted on 12/29/2009

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Sounds like a very sensible approach. I would like my son to be on some kind of schedule so I can have time to do the other things around the house. With my son it looks as if everyday is a different day. The only thing that goes per schedule is that he will wake up at 11 pm and not sleep until 4am. From 4 am he'll sleep until noon with waking up for feedings every couple of hours. He will be 3 months on the 5th of January.

Amelia - posted on 12/29/2009

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I started our routine when my son was about a month old, it kind of just fell into place really. but the sooner the better i say, then they can realise that this is when this happens and so forth. also great for organisational skill for later in life to

Louise - posted on 12/29/2009

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i got my son into a routeen the min he was born makes life alot easier for you

Ashley - posted on 12/28/2009

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it is never to early. how hard it is depends on the baby. i was lucky and with my daughter i started a routine when she was about 4 weeks old and by 8 weeks it was good as gold. she has feeding times, bath times and a bed time. she sleeps from 1030-630 wakes up eats and goes back to bed for a few more hours. i also gotten her to pretty much put her self to sleep. that one takes lots of patients but im so happy i did it. when it is bed time and she is starting to drift off, its to the bed she goes. of course when your baby is still little and new you should feed on demand because they dont really have the stomach to hold food very long that young.

Melissa - posted on 12/28/2009

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When my baby was about 3 1/2 months I decided I finally had the energy to start a daily routine. I started with bedtime, always giving her a bath at the same time, p-j's, 15-20 mins in her exercauser, then feeding, then bedtime. After about a week, I noticed it wasn't as hard to get her to sleep.

Then I started doing the same with naps (that took a bit longer to sink in...). After I started the night routine, when she cried in her crib I would always pick her up and try to rock her to sleep or something...this was more or less effective, and often would take one hour (or more) to get her to sleep, then she would often wake up and I'd have to start over.

When she was about 5 months, I would put her in her bed awake, but when she was showing signs of being tired - cranky about everything ! :-) If she cried I would go check on her every 5-10 minutes, wait till she was calm without picking her up, then start again...till she fell asleep. I did this maybe 5 times, without giving in, and now I put her to bed, she fusses for maybe 3 minutes and goes to sleep. I never set a time for feedings, but I noticed she made her own, and I'm following her's, which is fine with me.

Meagan - posted on 12/28/2009

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omg babies love routine it makes em feel safe n they know whats coming, its hard as a parent to keep to those routines cuz we wanna run errands or go out & about etc and then u will notice thats when baby gives u most trouble...my daughters 4 and i was single mom few years so it was hard keeping my life n being a slave to the schedule but we get along so much better when we do! i think that alot of parents these days are "kidcentric" and follow the lead of the child because they are unable to stick to a daily grind that yes can get boring sometimes...then we end up with "egocentric" or dare i say spoiled children. im a lil guilty in this area like movie time sometimes,especially when i was a single mom its easier to say ok pic out another movie, but now #2 is on its way and the schedule is coming back on strong and big sis is gonna have to come to grips with the fact the world doesnt revolve around her whims, but specific needs and to-dos. now wouldnt it have been easier to just stick to the program from the start? live and learn, but on our best days i model her daycare with a set yet flexible schedule cuz yknow...life does happen. sigh. thats the pull yer hair out days : ) stick with it as soon and as much as possible think how much better they will do in school and when go into the workplace they already understand "time and place"

Lynea - posted on 12/28/2009

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I agree with you on the routine bit, I wish parents all the best that have succeeded with a routine but I preferred the let me know when method, because it usually the parents that benefit more from the routine than babies. Its the same thing with my son he naps once or twice a day depends on wht is happening at daycare or home and his bed time is usually 7:30-8PM

Erin - posted on 12/28/2009

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Quoting Carly:

I personally went with the feeding on demand for the first few weeks and this is alot harder than feeding in a routine as it means you listen to your babies needs rather than routine them around your own. I found he eventually fell into his own routine of every 4 hours taking 7oz and started sleeping through a whole 8 hours this week. He is a very happy, content smiley little boy and is everything I could ask fo in a baby. I do believe you cannot set a routine for a child as they may not be hungry when you decide to feed them or not tired when you decide it's nap time. I don't agree with parent's deciding routine's around there own needs, I personally believe it's selfish and if you'd rather an easier life of making a baby do what you want rather than what they want to satify your own needs first then you shouldn't have kids. My opinion :)



So moms who have to work full time jobs to provide for their child shouldn't have children because they have to put them on a routin in order for them to leave & work? You should have only children if you are able to be home 24 hours a day? I think the way you worded that was a little mean. There are moms on here in all walks of life and saying they shouldn't be parents because they are not able to be around their children 24 hours a day is slightly uncalled for.

Jennifer - posted on 12/28/2009

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Quoting Belinda:

Erin, it sounds to me that you don't really follow a set routine for sleep, except the pattern your baby has shown a preference for. I was referring to mothers that put their babies down for a naps and night sleep at exactly the same time everyday regardless of what their baby is telling them about how tired they are. I was also referring to mothers that wake their babies because a long sleep is not in their 'routine'. Believe it or not some mothers read books on sleep training and then force their babies to sleep (or not sleep) at certain times. For these babies I say poor babies as these instances usually result in tears and distressed babies. :(

As for scheduled feeding times, perhaps our difference of opinion stems from they way we feed our babies. I am thinking that your baby is bottle fed (am I correct??). I breastfeed. I have never used formula, not with my 2 year old - who still breastfeeds, or my 4 month old. So maybe the scheduled feeds are for bottle fed babies. Is this right? This actually sounds easier to me than demand feeding. Feeding on demand means you are available 24 hours a day and your plans often change at any given minute if bubba is hungry. I still feel for babies that are on scheduled feeds though, even if it is for a reason. It’s summer here in Australia at the moment and everyday has been 32 degrees +. I couldn’t imagine not giving my baby a little breast milk every hour or so. I also know that you can not over feed a breastfed baby. Breast milk actually digests within an hour or so, it is specifically designed for your baby (each mother produces the exact combination of nutrients, fat etc that their baby requires) and it's kind of the way we as a human race were designed to feed our babies, so I must strongly disagree with your comment about babies not being fed on demand.

Can I also say that both my children, routine free and fed on demand, are very healthy, happy babies. They have no digestion/stomach or weight problems and can clearly distiguish night time sleep from daytime sleep.



I have a set bedtime for my daughter so i will keep her up for two hours before that and she will sleep the night but I dont deny her of sleep whenever she wants to take a nap i let her and she can sleep as long as she needs too :]

Jennifer - posted on 12/28/2009

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Quoting Belinda:

Erin, it sounds to me that you don't really follow a set routine for sleep, except the pattern your baby has shown a preference for. I was referring to mothers that put their babies down for a naps and night sleep at exactly the same time everyday regardless of what their baby is telling them about how tired they are. I was also referring to mothers that wake their babies because a long sleep is not in their 'routine'. Believe it or not some mothers read books on sleep training and then force their babies to sleep (or not sleep) at certain times. For these babies I say poor babies as these instances usually result in tears and distressed babies. :(

As for scheduled feeding times, perhaps our difference of opinion stems from they way we feed our babies. I am thinking that your baby is bottle fed (am I correct??). I breastfeed. I have never used formula, not with my 2 year old - who still breastfeeds, or my 4 month old. So maybe the scheduled feeds are for bottle fed babies. Is this right? This actually sounds easier to me than demand feeding. Feeding on demand means you are available 24 hours a day and your plans often change at any given minute if bubba is hungry. I still feel for babies that are on scheduled feeds though, even if it is for a reason. It’s summer here in Australia at the moment and everyday has been 32 degrees +. I couldn’t imagine not giving my baby a little breast milk every hour or so. I also know that you can not over feed a breastfed baby. Breast milk actually digests within an hour or so, it is specifically designed for your baby (each mother produces the exact combination of nutrients, fat etc that their baby requires) and it's kind of the way we as a human race were designed to feed our babies, so I must strongly disagree with your comment about babies not being fed on demand.

Can I also say that both my children, routine free and fed on demand, are very healthy, happy babies. They have no digestion/stomach or weight problems and can clearly distiguish night time sleep from daytime sleep.



I have a set bedtime for my daughter so i will keep her up for two hours before that and she will sleep the night but I dont deny her of sleep whenever she wants to take a nap i let her and she can sleep as long as she needs too :]

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Quoting Mattee:

The biggest reason I was asking this question is my friend has a 2 year old and he is not on a schedule at all... Some days he takes naps and some days he doesn't. Most of the time his naps are in the late afternoon and evening. She will let him stay up until 2:30am if he wants, and just let him fall asleep whenever. She also doesn't have consistent mealtimes, and honstly I don't know how she does it, she also has a 5 year old! I would be a zombie... My son is 6 weeks old now and he has put himself on a pretty consistent schedule, but I want bedtime to be established as 9, so since he was about 2 weeks old I start the bedtime routine at 8 (bath, tummy time, reading, and feeding) regaurdless if he is asleep or awake at 8. But he is usually waking up for a feeding at 8 so it's not a problem.... I just want him to be a good sleeper when he gets older, lol.


haha- that's what we all want, I think... Sounds like you have the right idea... they will let you know when they are ready for a routine, and they (mostly) love consistency.  I think your friend must be very tired!!

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Quoting Mattee:

The biggest reason I was asking this question is my friend has a 2 year old and he is not on a schedule at all... Some days he takes naps and some days he doesn't. Most of the time his naps are in the late afternoon and evening. She will let him stay up until 2:30am if he wants, and just let him fall asleep whenever. She also doesn't have consistent mealtimes, and honstly I don't know how she does it, she also has a 5 year old! I would be a zombie... My son is 6 weeks old now and he has put himself on a pretty consistent schedule, but I want bedtime to be established as 9, so since he was about 2 weeks old I start the bedtime routine at 8 (bath, tummy time, reading, and feeding) regaurdless if he is asleep or awake at 8. But he is usually waking up for a feeding at 8 so it's not a problem.... I just want him to be a good sleeper when he gets older, lol.



Well it sounds like you"re doing the same thing I did and it worked out really well. My daughter eats at the sametime everyday and sleeps at the sametime everynight regardless of naps. Somedays she'll nap more than others but will still sleep 10-12 hours a night no matter what. Best of luck!!!

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The biggest reason I was asking this question is my friend has a 2 year old and he is not on a schedule at all... Some days he takes naps and some days he doesn't. Most of the time his naps are in the late afternoon and evening. She will let him stay up until 2:30am if he wants, and just let him fall asleep whenever. She also doesn't have consistent mealtimes, and honstly I don't know how she does it, she also has a 5 year old! I would be a zombie... My son is 6 weeks old now and he has put himself on a pretty consistent schedule, but I want bedtime to be established as 9, so since he was about 2 weeks old I start the bedtime routine at 8 (bath, tummy time, reading, and feeding) regaurdless if he is asleep or awake at 8. But he is usually waking up for a feeding at 8 so it's not a problem.... I just want him to be a good sleeper when he gets older, lol.

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Quoting Renae:



Quoting Erin:

Well my baby put herself on a routine and I never neglect her when she has cried. After she was on a routine she has never fussed for a bottle. At first I fed on demand but now she gets her 8oz bottles 4 times a day and that is plenty for her. Feeding on demand can lead to a child over eating which can also cause problems so it's important to watch how much they consume if you are feeding with every cry. I really wouldn't say they are "supposed" to be fed on demand...it's all up to the mom and the baby. But it's hard work and dedication to your baby to get on a good routine and some moms just can't do it, it's not uncommon, feeding on demand is the easiest way. Again, it's all preference and there's pros and cons with either method.





 






I think the reason some demand fed babies are overfed (which is sometimes the underlying cause of reflux and spitting up) is because they are fed with every cry. I believe babies should be demand fed, but that means I believe they should be fed when they are hungry, not feeding them because they are crying. Over the years many psychologists have tried to identify the different cries baby have to express different needs, up to 23 cries have been found! And only one of them means hungry. (I know its amazing isn't it, how could a baby possibly have 23 different reasons to cry, I can't think of more than 6 or 7, but that is what they have found). Ofcourse some lucky ones have babies who only ever cry when they are tired or hungry, wish we all had one of those. Babies are supposed to be able to instinctively self-regulate their food intake, where demand feeding becomes a problem is when the baby is feeding because they want the comfort of sucking for example, not because they need food.





I know I think it is so interesting and I try to listen for different cries but my daughter will go long periods of time without crying and only cries when she is tired so that's the only cry I really hear.



I guess my take on it is different because my daughter never cried or fussed for food even as a tiny infant, she was very content so I kind of had to make a schd of every hour to couple of hours when she was born then eventually she let me know when she was hungry but even then was the same time apart as the feeding/bottle before. So I made it a habbit to feed her at the same time everyday and since she has totally taken to it. If a baby is crying for a bottle or is hungry i DO NOT believe the baby should be ignored because the mother puts the routine before the babies needs. However, my child was never like that and still never fusses for a feeding. Babies are remarkable though and tend to put themselves on routines even when people aren't aware they are doing it :) truly amazing. 

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Quoting Amy:

Babies are supposed to be fed on demand... at least for the first 5 or 6 months. A feeding schedule seems a little too much for me... why would you tell a helpless baby that he/she can't eat when they are hungry... their needs have to be met for them to form a secure attachment with their caregivers. I feed my 5 month old on demand, and put him down for his naps when he is tired. We have a consistent bedtime routine and time, but other than that I respond to his needs as he tells me. I think having a consistent bedtime routine and time will help kids to sleep better when they are older, but I'm not sure as this is my first... but it's going well so far. I started the routine at about 3 months...


I agree. With my first baby I read too much parenting books that told you a baby should only be fed four hourly. My poor baby cried herself to sleep and by the time she was asleep I was in a state myself! 



With my second baby I fed her on demand and there was a lot more physical contact between us. She was much more content and today I can see a big difference between my two children. The first does not like hugs and is more 'difficult' if that is the rigth word to use. The second is much more easy going and like to cuddle and kiss. She also has more selfconfidence than her older sister.



I also noted that their routines changed from time to time. Every child is different and every parent must find out what works best for their family and child.

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Quoting Janice:



Quoting Erin:

Well my baby put herself on a routine and I never neglect her when she has cried. After she was on a routine she has never fussed for a bottle. At first I fed on demand but now she gets her 8oz bottles 4 times a day and that is plenty for her. Feeding on demand can lead to a child over eating which can also cause problems so it's important to watch how much they consume if you are feeding with every cry. I really wouldn't say they are "supposed" to be fed on demand...it's all up to the mom and the baby. But it's hard work and dedication to your baby to get on a good routine and some moms just can't do it, it's not uncommon, feeding on demand is the easiest way. Again, it's all preference and there's pros and cons with either method.






Although  I agree that routines are important for babies, I disagree about feeding. Babies are fed on demand because their bodies tell them they are hungry. They don't eat out of boredom or stress like older children and adults do. I am unable to keep track of how much my daughter (8 weeks) eats because she is breastfed. I  do think that if you are able to ease your baby into a feeding schedule it is agood thing but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way. I am curious, how old was your daughter when she got into a routine?





Well like I said it all depends on the baby because my daughter drinks 8oz every 4 hours and doesn't cry or fuss in between. Some babies can't drink that much at one time though so feeding on demand may work better for them. However, it's how my baby likes to be fed. She started putting herself on a routine at about 8 weeks then was on a routine and sleeping 10 hours a night by 12 weeks. Every style of parenting is different and this style I feel is best for my baby and she is thriving & her doctor has nothing but positive feed back about it. So I don't believe either way is right or wrong, just what people believe. I was unable to breastfeed though after her first month so she's on the bottle, bottle babies seem to be more routine babies than breastfed it seems like but again, I don't think either way is wrong, this is just the way I believe is best for my babies needs. :) best of luck with your baby!!

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But I do have a routine for bedtime sleep. She goes to bed at 10pm every night and wakes up at 9-930am every morning. She tends to nap differently everyday though depending on activities done that day but regardless sleeps the same every night.

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Quoting Belinda:

Erin, it sounds to me that you don't really follow a set routine for sleep, except the pattern your baby has shown a preference for. I was referring to mothers that put their babies down for a naps and night sleep at exactly the same time everyday regardless of what their baby is telling them about how tired they are. I was also referring to mothers that wake their babies because a long sleep is not in their 'routine'. Believe it or not some mothers read books on sleep training and then force their babies to sleep (or not sleep) at certain times. For these babies I say poor babies as these instances usually result in tears and distressed babies. :(

As for scheduled feeding times, perhaps our difference of opinion stems from they way we feed our babies. I am thinking that your baby is bottle fed (am I correct??). I breastfeed. I have never used formula, not with my 2 year old - who still breastfeeds, or my 4 month old. So maybe the scheduled feeds are for bottle fed babies. Is this right? This actually sounds easier to me than demand feeding. Feeding on demand means you are available 24 hours a day and your plans often change at any given minute if bubba is hungry. I still feel for babies that are on scheduled feeds though, even if it is for a reason. It’s summer here in Australia at the moment and everyday has been 32 degrees +. I couldn’t imagine not giving my baby a little breast milk every hour or so. I also know that you can not over feed a breastfed baby. Breast milk actually digests within an hour or so, it is specifically designed for your baby (each mother produces the exact combination of nutrients, fat etc that their baby requires) and it's kind of the way we as a human race were designed to feed our babies, so I must strongly disagree with your comment about babies not being fed on demand.

Can I also say that both my children, routine free and fed on demand, are very healthy, happy babies. They have no digestion/stomach or weight problems and can clearly distiguish night time sleep from daytime sleep.


I am very glad that this method works with your children. Because of complications I was not able to breastfeed after the first month so you are very lucky you are able to do that for your children because that is the best milk for any child. I was simply saying from my experience with my child and close friends that have babies that routines seem to work easier & have more benefits. I also believe that there is no right or wrong way it's all about what the mother believes is right for her child and the babies needs. Im not saying your way is wrong at all and i'm not saying my way should be the way everyone uses. Lets not forget that the woman who asked the original question wanted to know when she should start putting her baby on a routine so obviously that is something she wanted to do so I was trying to give her advice and support as someone who uses routines. If you don't use them that is fine as long as your children are happy and healthy which obviously they are but you shouldn't descourage people from doing them if they feel like it's best for their baby. Just give advice and support for people who don't like routines.



I do understnad your points though, I live in Louisiana, US with 90+ degree summers so I know heat as well. And I actually lived in Melbourne for a couple years when  I was a bit younger.

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i started my daughter iff at 4 weeks old, as in bed time at 8, feeds at the same time everyday and she sleeps right through the night and had right from birth. she is now 9 and a half months and still sleeps the whole way through the night and still has her feeds and meals at the same time everyday.

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Quoting Erin:

Well my baby put herself on a routine and I never neglect her when she has cried. After she was on a routine she has never fussed for a bottle. At first I fed on demand but now she gets her 8oz bottles 4 times a day and that is plenty for her. Feeding on demand can lead to a child over eating which can also cause problems so it's important to watch how much they consume if you are feeding with every cry. I really wouldn't say they are "supposed" to be fed on demand...it's all up to the mom and the baby. But it's hard work and dedication to your baby to get on a good routine and some moms just can't do it, it's not uncommon, feeding on demand is the easiest way. Again, it's all preference and there's pros and cons with either method.


 



I think the reason some demand fed babies are overfed (which is sometimes the underlying cause of reflux and spitting up) is because they are fed with every cry. I believe babies should be demand fed, but that means I believe they should be fed when they are hungry, not feeding them because they are crying. Over the years many psychologists have tried to identify the different cries baby have to express different needs, up to 23 cries have been found! And only one of them means hungry. (I know its amazing isn't it, how could a baby possibly have 23 different reasons to cry, I can't think of more than 6 or 7, but that is what they have found). Ofcourse some lucky ones have babies who only ever cry when they are tired or hungry, wish we all had one of those. Babies are supposed to be able to instinctively self-regulate their food intake, where demand feeding becomes a problem is when the baby is feeding because they want the comfort of sucking for example, not because they need food.

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The older they get the better they sleep. I live by the baby 411 book! My 2 month old daughter is on a good schedule...the first month was rough, but now we do the same things daily and she sleeps through the night and life is soooo much easier. So I say start right away! Everybody has what works for them:)

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Quoting Erin:

Well my baby put herself on a routine and I never neglect her when she has cried. After she was on a routine she has never fussed for a bottle. At first I fed on demand but now she gets her 8oz bottles 4 times a day and that is plenty for her. Feeding on demand can lead to a child over eating which can also cause problems so it's important to watch how much they consume if you are feeding with every cry. I really wouldn't say they are "supposed" to be fed on demand...it's all up to the mom and the baby. But it's hard work and dedication to your baby to get on a good routine and some moms just can't do it, it's not uncommon, feeding on demand is the easiest way. Again, it's all preference and there's pros and cons with either method.



Although  I agree that routines are important for babies, I disagree about feeding. Babies are fed on demand because their bodies tell them they are hungry. They don't eat out of boredom or stress like older children and adults do. I am unable to keep track of how much my daughter (8 weeks) eats because she is breastfed. I  do think that if you are able to ease your baby into a feeding schedule it is agood thing but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way. I am curious, how old was your daughter when she got into a routine?

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And nothing I said is aimed to be offensive at all. I really do believe every parent has a different style of parenting and differences are a good thing. I believe getting feedback from parents who like different methods can be positive because you get the most advice that way! When i re-read my post I thought it was kind of harsh and it was not to come off this way. :)

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Well my baby put herself on a routine and I never neglect her when she has cried. After she was on a routine she has never fussed for a bottle. At first I fed on demand but now she gets her 8oz bottles 4 times a day and that is plenty for her. Feeding on demand can lead to a child over eating which can also cause problems so it's important to watch how much they consume if you are feeding with every cry. I really wouldn't say they are "supposed" to be fed on demand...it's all up to the mom and the baby. But it's hard work and dedication to your baby to get on a good routine and some moms just can't do it, it's not uncommon, feeding on demand is the easiest way. Again, it's all preference and there's pros and cons with either method.

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Babies are supposed to be fed on demand... at least for the first 5 or 6 months. A feeding schedule seems a little too much for me... why would you tell a helpless baby that he/she can't eat when they are hungry... their needs have to be met for them to form a secure attachment with their caregivers. I feed my 5 month old on demand, and put him down for his naps when he is tired. We have a consistent bedtime routine and time, but other than that I respond to his needs as he tells me. I think having a consistent bedtime routine and time will help kids to sleep better when they are older, but I'm not sure as this is my first... but it's going well so far. I started the routine at about 3 months...

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I totally agree & my baby was the same way and pretty much put herself on her routine. I have a good friend who has a two year little boy who was never on a schd and he won't sleep more than 5 hours a night and has been sick every couple months since he was about 7 months. Routines work great for my baby & family. Good luck to you too :)

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Routines are good for both momy & baby but mainly for baby. My daughter going on 5 months has never been sick, has no issues with gas, never cries and is at perfect weight because of her routine. So no poor baby...it has done nothing but good for her. It's not like you need to feed them at the same second of every day,,,just around the same time so they can get an idea of when meal times are and when bedtime is. Even on a routine for the last 3 1/2 months my daughter still takes naps whenever she feels like it. Sometimes she'll sleep the whole day and others she can go completely without a nap. It's all about what she needs at that particular time. I know I'm not a robot but I also don't eat all day everyday whenever I want. Consistancy in diet is important in adults as well as studies show. Eating a lot here and a little here then a lot there and a little there isn't healthy so why would it be ok for babies? It's also been shown that babies develope better if they are on a routine because the more in sync they are with their internal clock the better. It's also important to track how many oz they consume a day and to keep it around the same amount everyday until they are ready to consume more etc etc. Having it change from day to day can cause bad problems with gas & digestion problems. Poor babies :(


I Agree with you. Its not like I picked times for my baby to eat. When I started to feed her 7 1/2 oz she just got hungry every 7 hours. It was like that for days so I just started feeding her a bit early so her last feeding before bed wouldnt be too late. She chose it herself. And if she cries 3 hours after she eats I know for a fact shes not hungry. My daughter never cries only if she has gas. And just like adults everyone eats breakfast lunch and dinner Im sure its around the same time every day. So its good for a child because they learn and around its the time for her to eat she knows its time and when I give her a bath after her feeding before bed she just knows its bedtime. If you dont start when they are young good luck because it will be hard to put them on a system later on because they are so used to getting what they want when they want. BUT when a baby is a month/ two months old they shouldnt be on a schedule they are way too young. Every baby is different just feed your baby and keep track of time on how many hours go by it should be the same time every feeding. Good Luck :]

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Routines are good for both momy & baby but mainly for baby. My daughter going on 5 months has never been sick, has no issues with gas, never cries and is at perfect weight because of her routine. So no poor baby...it has done nothing but good for her. It's not like you need to feed them at the same second of every day,,,just around the same time so they can get an idea of when meal times are and when bedtime is. Even on a routine for the last 3 1/2 months my daughter still takes naps whenever she feels like it. Sometimes she'll sleep the whole day and others she can go completely without a nap. It's all about what she needs at that particular time. I know I'm not a robot but I also don't eat all day everyday whenever I want. Consistancy in diet is important in adults as well as studies show. Eating a lot here and a little here then a lot there and a little there isn't healthy so why would it be ok for babies? It's also been shown that babies develope better if they are on a routine because the more in sync they are with their internal clock the better. It's also important to track how many oz they consume a day and to keep it around the same amount everyday until they are ready to consume more etc etc. Having it change from day to day can cause bad problems with gas & digestion problems. Poor babies :(

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Emily is 11 weeks on monday and is all over the place during day time. She will nap around 2pm and we bring her to bed at 10pm ish. We co-sleep so during the night she will latch on if she needs a "snack" (usually around 2:30am, 6:30am and 8am). She wont fuss and sleep through until 9am/10am.

Day feeds are a bit of a riddle to me as she will feed at different times and different amounts most days. I just respond to her needs and let her figure out a routine herself, shes done the same with her night routine and that works pretty well.

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Most behaviourists and infant sleep experts recommend starting a routine at 12-14 weeks or whenever it is that your baby drops a night feed and is able to sleep a little longer at night. Yes a routine will help them sleep better when they are older, but more because you continue having a routine from now on, it doesnt mean that if you dont have a routine now they wont sleep when they are older. I believe that your routine should be based on your babies natural internal clock in regards to when your baby is naturally hungry and tired. Your baby will almost always be hungry after a similar amount of time of not being fed, and tired after a similar amount of time of being awake, so you can simply watch your baby and develop your routine around what they naturally do. I hope that made sense! Some people think that routine is about forcing your baby to do certain things at certain times but the truth is that no routine is like that because that never works, you just end up with a crying baby.

Also remember that babies sleep needs (amount of day sleep required and length of time able to stay awake between naps) change at 3, 6, 10 and 12 months (on average, sometimes more sometimes less) so it is normal to have to continually adjust your routine when your baby starts showing signs that they need different amounts of sleep. Someone mentioned the book Save Our Sleep, very good routines in there and also The Secrets of the Baby Whisperer has a good routine too.

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I just listen to my baby and feed on demand. and sleep on demand. when they are about a month or so old you do notice a pattern and so naps started at the same time and bed times, etc. I've always been a stickler for bedtimes and nap times because I need the sleep, so turning off all the lights, nursing the baby and laying down with them at bed time generally got the idea across that we'd be sleeping now. Course I was also so tired I'd pass out too, and of course waking a few hours later to nurse again...but keeping it dark and quiet so that baby would know to go back to sleep and not play...
that generally worked for me. I've had three so far, four will be here monday, so I get to re-remember what it's all about. yay. lol.
as for helping them sleep better--YES. having a nap time and a bed time does help.
Your body has a natural rhythm for sleeping and being awake. Once it's programed, as in you fall asleep every night at this time..then your body knows how long it has to go through its sleep cycles. Have you ever noticed that you need about 8 hours of sleep during a work week, but if you stay up later on the weekend, then you need to sleep in longer (more than 8 hours of sleep) on the weekend and you still don't feel rested? or you get a headache from too much sleep? that's your body telling you that your sleep cycle was out of wack. I try to stick to the same sleep cycle no matter what day of the week it is--not just because I feel better, but also because I know my kids wake up at 6am, and I want my 8 hours of sleep in first! lol.
so you read your baby's sleep cues (red rimmed eyes or little bags under them) and you put them down when they are tired but not over tired (don't wait until they are crying because they are so tired) and then they will be happy but tired and will fall asleep pretty easily. They will sleep better and longer. and be happier when they wake.
my current toddler is being trained to be put to bed by daddy instead of mommy, and her bed time is 630pm. recently my husband has been late at getting her to bed--as late as 8pm a few nights ago. she did NOT sleep well, kept having dreams and waking up crying (she's 2). I did not get any sleep and I am mad at my husband for not putting her to bed at bedtime. She went to bed at bedtime last night and slept great. didn't wake up early and wasn't a crabby bratty baby today! amazing how a few hours of sleep makes a huge difference!

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Are routines really for a baby or the mother??? I believe the best parenting style is listening and responding to your baby and their cues. Do we eat, sleep, and ‘play’ at the same time everyday. No - we're not robots. Babies are people!! Sometimes they are hungrier than others, sometimes they are just extra thirsty, sometimes they need more sleep and other times they don't. What happens when life gets in the way of your 'strict routine’? Most 'routine' parents that I know freak out when things don't go as planned.

Don't get me wrong, both my children have daytime naps. My 4 month old naps 3 or four times a day, whenever he tells me he is tired and his naps are anywhere from 45 mins to 3 hours. He goes to bed at night between 6 and 7pm (when he is tired) and gets up between 5 and 6am. My two year old has a nap everyday between 11 and 12.30. She'll always sleep for 2 - 3 hours and then her bedtime is around 7pm (when she shows me she is tired) and she wakes between 5.30 and 6.30 am.

Everyone is right when they say babies like to know what to expect (eg; I'm tired - put me to sleep; I'm hungry - feed me, ie. a predictable set of feelings/behaviours and then consequent actions,) but a routine with schedule feeding and sleep times I think not! Poor babies :(

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