OUCH!!!

Karrie - posted on 01/18/2011 ( 15 moms have responded )

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Okay so I have been working on BF my baby she is 3 weeks old now, I pump a lot but want to BF but every time she latches on I can't stand more than 5 min. of it! She looks to have the right latch position her mouth is open and her top lip and bottom lip are out, but it feels like she is chomping down on my nipple vs. sucking it. I can her her swallowing the milk and she seems perfectly content. Any suggestions beyond a LC? We don't have any available where I live.

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darn...lol. Here's some tips from Dr. Sears:
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/11/T02190...
It takes a while to get the hang of breastfeeding and latching. I would try feeding with a cup or syringe instead of the bottle or even a feeding tube on your finger.
Here's a great video that demonstrates how to get a good latch. Maybe it will help?

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Susie - posted on 01/21/2011

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id definetly try an LC also lie down its easier for you and your baby and better on your back, if you decide to tough it out and just keep BF do one more minute each day as when breastfeeding the first 5 minutes of milk coming out is just what we would call something to quench your thirst and then from there on is the real meal, you want you baby to get the full meal or atleast a little bit so everyweek add onemore minute to the time

Rhionna - posted on 01/20/2011

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Have you considered that it might be thrush? I had thrush in my breast and it was painful, but so easily treated. I'd see your doctor!

Jennifer - posted on 01/20/2011

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If you can get to a good Wic clinic they normally have a LC on staff that can help you with latching and different positions that would make BF easier for you and the babe.

Heather - posted on 01/19/2011

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Karrie, I said "ouch" (along with a few choice expletives) every time I breastfed for about the first two months. It was such a frustrating period. I had LCs & nurses recommending different things ... one lady would smoosh the baby's face onto the breast so aggressively it shocked me--but it worked. Well, it worked when she did it; not so much when I tried to copy it.

I wish I had some tried and true method for you, but honestly, the big thing that helped for us was time. I gritted my teeth through each feeding and said, "one more day", then "one more week", and at some magic point about two months in, it stopped hurting.

Use whatever you need to to get through it. Some nipple cream, cooling packs, whatever. The nipple shields helped bridge a particularly rough patch for us in the beginning (bad mastitis), but they're temporary and if your babe is rejecting them, fair enough. The more areola she gets in her mouth, the more comfortable for you & the more effective for her. I know, that's tricky if you're busty. As she gets stronger, it'll be easier for her to do. I noticed that on the pain scale, certain positions were less painful (rugby was easier for us). We still had to rotate them, but I was relieved every rugby round. ha.

In the meantime, hang in there. It gets surprisingly better. It really does. But the airy "I'll connect immediately and fluidly with my child and breastfeed like the wind" image we get is, in my experience, only fantasy. If it encourages you, my kid just turned one and I'm still breastfeeding.

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Breastfeeding was pretty painful for me for about the first 6 weeks. Now I'm 14 weeks pregnant and still breastfeeding my 20 month old so the pain is back lol. I know how you feel. It should get better though. If you don't see any improvement, like I said before, call your closest leader (even is she's hours away). They can help you over the phone free of charge. Or call hospitals around you until you find one with a lactation consultant that you might talk to over the phone. It stinks that there's not many resources in your area. Good luck!!

Rachael - posted on 01/19/2011

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their mouths can accommodate more of the nipple and areola than you might think. Also watch the position of her head as you want it even with your breast head turned to the side. Try different feeding positions and different holds. My son used to jaw-thrust occasionally while feeding he would actually bring his jaws together on my breast/nipple which was extremely painful. Each time you feel pain break suction and reposition waiting until her mouth is open ALL the way before putting as much of your nipple and aerola in her mouth as possible. Good luck! If you have continues issues call LLL they may be able to work with you over the phone. Also your health insurance company may have a nurse hotline which may be able to offer guidance

Karrie - posted on 01/18/2011

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Nope not thrush. I will just keep working on it and do it little by little and maybe we will just both get comfortable with it and get better at it. Thanks for all your thoughts Sara, if you think of anything else let me know you have been really helpful.

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Just throwing this out there: could you have thrush? Did you have to be on antibiotics recently?

From: http://breastfeeding.hypermart.net/thrus...



Symptoms:

"In mother:



intense nipple or breast pain that occurs from birth, lasts throughout the feeding, or is not improved with better latch-on and positioning

sudden onset of nipple pain after a period of pain-free nursing

cracked nipples

nipples that are itchy and/or burning and that may appear pink or red, shiny, or flaky and/or have a rash and tiny blisters; nipples may also appear normal

shooting pains in the breast during or after a feeding if the yeast has invaded the milk ducts

nipple or breast pain with correct use of an automatic electric breastpump

a vaginal yeast infection



In baby:





diaper rash that does not respond to typical rash ointments (see this picture for one representation of a yeast diaper rash)

creamy white patches that cannot be wiped off on the inside of the mouth, along the inside of the gums, inside of the cheeks, roof of mouth, throat, or tongue

a shiny or "mother of pearl" look on the inside of the mouth

breast refusal, pulling off breast, or a reluctance to nurse due to mouth soreness

repeated clicking during nursing

excessive gassiness due to the yeast's invasion of the gut

The baby may also be without visible symptoms."

Katie - posted on 01/18/2011

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It does hurt at first. (Even thought they say it's not supposed to. My daughter had a perfect latch, but it still hurt) If her latch is good, it should only hurt for the first few minutes and then stop. If it's hurting for that long, I would suggest trying to take her off and reposition her. When my daughter was first born, the easiest way to nurse her was laying down in the bed. The nurse at the hospital showed me, and that's the way that she had the best latch. I know at my daughter's pediatricians office one of the nurses there is a lactation consultant. Also, maybe you could visit the hospital where you gave birth and have a nurse take a look at your baby's latch. I know that at least in my area the nurses in the birth center in the hospital are all well informed about breastfeeding. They were a huge help with latching when my daughter was born.

Karrie - posted on 01/18/2011

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I have a very large areola so I think it would be impossible for her to get it in her mouth, she is taking in the whole nipple which is rather large compared to her mouth but not a lot of the areola so I am not sure it is discouraging because I know she want to BF but it is killing me I tried a nipple shield but she doesn't want anything to do with that. Yes she uses the bottle because like I said I can't take more than 5 min. of BF, and mind you I can take pain I have had two c-sections without any issues and pretty much no pain meds. I got done BF her over 45 min ago and my nipple is still throbbing. I really want this to work but am not sure what to do now.

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How much of your breast is she taking in? Make sure she has all of your nipple and all or most of your areola (depending on your size). If you're pumping is she on the bottle? She may have a hard time learning to nurse because a bottle is a much different latch. I would try to stop the bottles and just put her on. For the first few weeks it hurt me to nurse, but it didn't take long for my breasts to toughen up. I did anything to distract myself. I played on the computer, watched TV, talked to someone. That seemed to help take my mind off the discomfort. I also used Soothies which are gel pads you can put in the fridge or freezer. I put them on right after nursing and the cold immediately stopped the pain (a cold compress would probably do the same just don't leave it on more than needed). Good luck!

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