Problems at kinder

Fiona - posted on 03/21/2011 ( 8 moms have responded )

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Hi,
My 4 year old started kindergarten this year. He is toilet trained, however, he has been have accidents at kinder. When Zach is at home or at ABC day-care (goes2 days) he goes to the potty or toilet and has no accidents.
At the moment I am not sure if he is just nervous or he is having trouble there with other kids or one of the teachers. Zach has also started to bully his little brother. So far one of the teachers (Dianne) has told him off during his interviews for not being able to wipe his own bum. In the first week she told him that he was wearing baby nappies; he was very nervous about having an accident in front of the other kids and asked if he could wear a pull up. She had a go at me so the next day I sent him in underpants. He had his first accident (poos) in his pants and they didn't change him. Dianne then embarrassed him badly by saying very loudly in front of all the kids and parents that Zach had an accident and did poos in his pants. Zach ran out of the kinder. This sent his toilet training back and between his Dad, ABC day-care and myself we got him back on track.
Last week he had another accident they didn’t even tell us and he was left in it once again. On Monday (21/3/11) I asked this other kinder teacher (Jackie) why he hadn’t been changed or nothing was said. Jackie told me that she didn't know and the other kids didn't tell her either. I think she was just making an excuse because Zach's smell was really bad. He told me also that he was in trouble. Jackie said she is going to remind Zach to go to the toilet before he goes out to play and that it won’t happen again and if it did they would change him.
Today I got a phone call from kinder saying Zach had had another accident and could I come and change him. I went around too change Zach’s pants and why I was cleaning him up he told me that Dianne had told him he was in trouble and that he was bad.
His aunty has also had problems with Dianne when she sent he son there. When Dianne told all the kids that he was a baby and they all started calling him baby. Resulting in him hating it and needing to do another year of kinder. This aunt also went to the kinder today after I told her want happened and told Dianne that she was bad and Zachs aunt.
Can you please let me know what to do or if I am just seeing too much in to it? I don’t want Zach to hate the time he is there or get picked on by a teacher. Right now I am trying to work out if I should change him, get another day at ABC day-care instead of kinder or stick it out and hope it works out. Please let me know what you would do if you were me.
Thanks Fiona

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Bridget - posted on 03/29/2011

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Fiona, Go to the owner if it cout. call the the state there has to be a state number for these things (even call the police to see what the number is) Its not something i would put up with All the teacher is doing is bullying him verbally abusing him. This teacher needs reports on her and should not be teaching kids if she acts like this. that is just what i would do. I would bring it to the boss attention PLus YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AND CHECK ON YOUR CHILD WITHOUT HIM KNOW. JUST POP IN ONE DAY AND WATCH THRU THE DOOR.

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Fiona - posted on 04/18/2011

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I just want to thank you all for your help. We ended up taking Zach out of the kinder and putting him in a different one which starts on the 28th. We also had to info the council about why Zach was changing kinder, as they would not change him otherwise.
But before changing kinders we talked to several different people and found out that there was a similar story about different childrens experiences at this kinder over a number of different years. With the teachers assistant getting worse each time, I still can not understand why she would do this to a kid just starting in their education.
Any way I also wanted to let you know that Zach had his kinder interview at the new kinder and he was happier there in 10 minutes than he had been all of the first term. And we did let the new teacher know what had happened at the old kinder.
So once again thank you for helping me
Fiona

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I would definitely take my child out of the school and once the child is out of the school there would be hell to pay. No teacher would make fun of my child or bully my child in front of others. My daughter has the same problem about a year ago and I found out that when she played outside, she realizes she needs to go to the bathroom, but she doesn't want to interrupt her play or are scared another child in going to take her toys etc so she just doesn't go and then have accidents. The teachers at her kindergarden started asking her every 20 min or so if she would like to go to the bathroom and within 2 weeks the problem has passed

Marie - posted on 03/30/2011

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I do not think any teacher should tell a child that they were bad or make fun of them in front of any child in fornt of others. Their little egos are so fragle at this age. Our school does not start kindergarden until they are 5 because of maturity. I hope this does not make your son hate school.

Melissa - posted on 03/28/2011

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why are the teachers bullying the kids? Is this an actual public school? If it's an actual public school it's crazy all that's happening. My son had 1 accident at school at halloween, sat in it wet all day- was never changed at school- smelled him when he came off the bus to me, and i contacted the principal and then it was dealt with the teacher and never once did it happen again. I was furious because my son had a change of clothes at the school as well as a change of clothes at the daycare in the same building there that if need be he could have poped in to get his clothes there. There should be no reason why you should even have to drive to the school to change them especially when there are 2 teachers in the room from the way it sounds- unless there were no clothes to change him into. My guess is that your son is having problems going potty at school because he feels intimidated by the teacher, and i would change either classes or schools and explain to the district or the schools why you have to change classes or schools because of the situation. If they know what's happening the teachers may loose their job and your son gets to stay and the issue gets resolved either way!

Elizabeth - posted on 03/27/2011

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The first thing I'd do would be take him out of that kindergarten. There is absolutely no excuse for teachers to be bulllying children like that! And, certainly even less of one for them to be encouraging other children to do so. Then, I'd be seeing if any other parent (besides your aunt) has had a similar experience, after which I'd be speaking to every "higher up" they have, i.e. the principal, the board of education, the superintendant, the union, ANYONE I could find that's an authority over THEM, and try to have them removed from the classroom. I can't believe they think that is acceptable behavior on THEIR part, much less for children.

Tina - posted on 03/22/2011

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In my opinion you should go higher then the actual kindergarten. For example the main boss that the kindergarten is run under, if it is an association. I work in a kindergarten as a Teacher Support and to me and my co workers this behaviour of the teachers would not be on and they could actually lose there jobs over it. If any child has an accident at our kindy we as teacher change them and just leave a note in the child's notice pocket letting the parents know that they had an accident, it is also recorded in a changing book. If i was you i would pull him out of this kindergarten, and put him in another one, report the teachers involved in this and ask other parents if they are having any problems with any of the teachers.

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