Due people who commit suicide go to Heaven?

Victoria - posted on 09/16/2010

I truly don't want this to become a debate, therefore I am locking this conversation. It's a hard situation, that many people feel passionate about, which generally leads to heated tempers, hurt feelings and such. Thanks for everybody's input. Be blessed.

In His Service,
V.

Rhonda - posted on 09/16/2010

Lori N,
I dont think Victoria was trying to be cruel or insensitive with the matter, or even judge. The question was Do people that commit suicide go to heaven? She answered it the way she believes it to be. not everyone is going to agree on this matter because I have never heard of anything being said of suicide and what happens to our soul after in the bible.
But sadly, I do agree with Victoria, that is a sin that we cannot ask for forgivness for, but we don't really know untill we get to heaven ourselves!

Jamie - posted on 09/16/2010

According to the Bible (and Billy Graham) yes they do if they were saved through Jesus. His book " Answers to Life's Problems" http://www.billygrahambookstore.org/prod...
was a Godsend for my family and I.

Victoria - posted on 09/15/2010

Just to clarify, I have had a close friend & a family member commit suicide & before I was born again I had attempted it myself, but praise God I didn't succeed.



I'm not trying to stand as a judge, but we are told to correctly divide the word of God & the word of God says murder is a sin & the unrepented sin can not be forgiven. Gods word is sound doctrine & anything less is just the tickling of peoples ears so as not to offend & that in Revelations is the kind of person who is luke-warm & will be spit out.



I believe there may always be some small exception to the rule, but through ministry experience & the word I have learned we should speak the truth in love, no matter what, we shouldn't sugar coat it, lie or twist the truth. God is love and even when He judges someone, even when He has turned and said depart from me I have never known you, it is still all love & perfect justice.



As humans & women we are generally given over to emotionalism, but God's love isn't an emotional love as we know love, it is an all Holy, Righteous love, that fully lines up with His word, Not turning from the left or right of it.



So where as you may think that I'm off topic here, I'm really not. We were asked what we believe, and I stated my beliefs with regards to the Scriptures. Yet because I stated that, someone named me, judged me and looked down me. I'm sorry if you are offended, I'm not concerned if you don't agree, but I do have to stand before God and give an account & if I lie to someone to make them feel good, then God won't be happy with me, as scripture also says all liars go to the same place, and it isn't heaven.



I write this with much love in my heart for my sisters & a prayer that we all come to know the truth & come to maturity in Christ.

Shannon - posted on 09/15/2010

I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that you go to hell for committing suicide. Also you can't lose your salvation, so if he was a believer he should be ok. He'll have to answer for his actions though.

Teresa - posted on 09/15/2010

Praying for your family!

As far as your question goes... it's just like w/ everyone else. Their salvation is only truly known between them and God. IMO I do not believe that people that commit suicide would not go to heaven simply BECAUSE of the suicide since I believe in order for a person to do such a thing they are in such a state of distress or mental/emotional 'disability' so to speak that God's grace/mercy would not see that as an unpardonable sin... even if they didn't have a chance to ask for forgiveness.

Obviously only God can truly speak for God, but that's my opinion, for what it's worth.

Nora - posted on 09/15/2010

Hi, it's Nora. Thank u all so much for your comforting answers at this time. I will pass them on to my sister Sarah and I hope I will see Steve-her husband in Heaven. Bless u all for being so thoughtful in this time of deep sorrow.

Carla - posted on 09/15/2010

Nora, I can't tell you whether he's in Heaven, but I believe there will be people there who committed suicide. Here is my story:

I loved the Lord, and was doing the best I could at the time. Massive depression set in along with an injury at work that left me in constant pain. Being a mail carrier, I had to sit for hours in the car and carry 70 pound packages to my customers' houses. I went to bed in pain, I woke up in pain. The doctors loaded me down with muscle relaxers, anti-inflammatories, sleep meds, and nothing worked. Then they put me on anti-depressants, which either left me blah or didn't do anything at all. I was miserable. My marriage suffered, all 3 of the kids left within 6 months of this (one married, one went in the service, one moved closer to work.) My life was a mess. I kept telling my family if they would just give me the okay, I would kill myself and everyone would be better off. I felt like there was no way out. There are a lot of people out there who feel that way. The good news is that when I waded out into the river (if you knew how afraid of water I was, you'd understand how very desperate I was, to try to drown myself), God spoke! He said 'get out of there and go home!' I ran the six blocks home. I never tried it again, but there were dark days before I got out of it, and it was only with the Holy Spirit's help.

So, Father, we bring dear Sarah to You. Please, first of all, reassure her that suicide isn't the unforgivable sin, and that if her husband knew You, he is now with You. Comfort her heart and give her the faith to keep going. I think this has been doubly devastating to her. Relieve her fears and wipe away the tears. Draw near to her, as she draws near to You. Give her joy back. In Jesus' Name, amen.

God bless you and Sarah, Nora

Sara - posted on 09/15/2010

If he was already a Christian, he will go to heaven - there are no sins that can separate us from God once we have been saved. I don't remember the reference, but the verse says "nothing can snatch us from the Father's hand."

Candy - posted on 09/15/2010

I think you hit the nail on head. We have no right to judge wether he did or didnt.We want know until we get there if our loved ones who took their own lives are there or not. You have to find peace within yourself about the event and move on. She is going to go through alot of feelings. Be there and be brave. May God be with you all.

Lori - posted on 09/14/2010

Victoria
I think you might feel differently if you had actually gone through this experience. I don't feel as christians it is our right to judge who goes to heaven and who does not. That in itself is a sin. The bible is not clear on all subjects, especially this one. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, I think when dealing with such a sensitive subject you have to be careful how strongly that opinion is voiced.

Stephanie Jo - posted on 09/14/2010

praying!

Victoria - posted on 09/14/2010

I'm sorry for your sisters loss as well as it's also yours. I will pray for your sister to have strength through this hard time.

I can honestly say, I don't believe someone who commits suicide will go to heaven. If we are in deliberate sin & don't repent then we have turned away from God & won't go to spend eternity with him. Murder is deliberate sin, however murder of yourself (suicide) leaves no room for repentance. I guess as Lori said that if the person doesn't die right away it all depends of what happens to them in those final moments, if they are truly sorry & repent then I'm sure there is a chance, but if they are beyond being able to reason in that manner, I don't believe so.

Lori - posted on 09/14/2010

First off, I would like to say my heart goes out to your sister. No one should have to suffer through losing someone to suicide. My father committed suicide when I was 11 years old. Yes I was young, but old enough to remember all the details of that time period. As I got older and became a christian I struggled with the question you asked "Does a suicide victim go to heaven?" This is not an easy answer. We know from evidence that my father did not die right away, in fact after he shot himself he lived for another 5-10 minutes. I think his spirtual journey depends on what happened in those last few minutes he was alive. Did he regret it? Was he sorry? Did he repent and want to take it all back? The answers to these questions I will never know. I do know, however that our God is a loving God and that he accepts all people from all walks of life. He gives us the opportunity to live life according to his word and offers his unconditional forgiveness. I don't think that anyone can truly answer this question because every circumstance is different. I hope that your sister is able to come to terms with what happen and trust in God that his will be done in her own life. It is a tragedy to have to suffer through something like that but I as well as my mother ans siblings are living proof that life goes on and it can be good again. Do I miss my dad? Of course I do, always will but I have come to terms with the fact that he was sick and took the easy way out instead of facing his life head on and putting his trust in God. Did he go to heaven? I don't know. Do I think there is a chance? Absolutely. I will say a prayer for your sister and I hope this has helped. God Bless and I'm sorry for your loss.