Ghosts

Rebecca - posted on 09/13/2010 ( 33 moms have responded )

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I'm a skeptic, and I always have been. I've never believed in ghosts. I did, however, experience something years ago that I can only describe as unexplainable. Here goes:

Sleeping over at a friend's house on her couch, I was lying there for about 10 minutes not even asleep yet and heard the front door handle jiggle. Not like the wind or anything, but the sound like someone trying the knob and finding it locked. I looked up and saw no shadow of a person through the front window, which was completely lit up from the front porch light. Also, the front porch is enclosed (about 5 X 5 feet) and the screen door is very creaky. So, I'm freaking out, thinking someone is trying to break in, and realize that the screen door did not open, and of course when I looked, there was no critter on the front porch (I thought maybe an animal was trapped on the porch). So she walks in the kitchen to get a drink of water literally 30 seconds or so after this happened, and I told her about it. She said, "Oh, that's just my husband's ex wife." She had died of cancer in that house, and my friend said she goes around opening the kids doors to check on them and making sure the exterior doors are locked to protect the family. She even said she saw her in the kitchen, and spoke to her, telling the ghost she wasn't trying to replace her as "mommy", but would take care of her kids for her. The ghost smiled at her knowingly and disappeared.

I tell you this story for a reason. I am not opposed to thinking that this "friend" of mine (who was really more of an acquaintance and whom I haven't spoken to since) was either completely crazy or messing with me. But how do I explain what I heard at the door? And her concise explanation of it? And what does the Bible say about ghosts? What happens to someone's soul between dying, going to heaven, being called into judgement, etc.? Even some Christians seem to think that someone's "energy" can hang around while their soul goes to heaven, but I don't think I buy that. I still fall on the side of not believing in ghosts, but my husband and dad also had an incident that was questionable and seemed humanly impossible, so that gets me curious about the "possibility" of ghosts. What do you think?

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Angela - posted on 03/27/2012

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@ Nataschia Newcomb - "who are WE to say our religion's the right one?"



Well, if you didn't notice the name of this Forum, it's called CHRISTIAN Mommies ....



That's who we are!



And our religion means enough to us for us to see it as the Truth and recognise it's REAL. We somewhat resent our Holy Book, the Bible being referred to as a "group of fables".



You describe yourself as a 3rd generation psychic. We don't recognise psychics as viable or dependable authorities on the occult.



Psychics are generally one of 3 things ....



a) a charlatan or fake that generally manages to make a living from their forecasts ....



b) a skilled "cold reader" which is absolutely NOTHING to do with mysticism, clairvoyance or psychic powers - I can do a bit of "cold reading" myself. I call it "fortune telling" and sometimes use it for fund-raising for good causes. Everyone thinks I'm very gifted and I tell them it's just for fun. People on the whole can be gullible. No matter how much they think I have a "gift" - I don't it's just cold-reading. Some people are better at it than others, of course!



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_readin...



c) someone who either knowingly or unknowingly is dealing with the Devil and/or his demons - therefore they can come out with some effective statements.



By the way, not even the Devil can tell the future - only God can do that!



And have you noticed how many times people claim some psychic or other was "very accurate" but most of what they said was THE PAST - and NOT the future?? How clairvoyant is THAT?? LOL!!



However, even if I don't believe in your "powers", I DO believe that YOU believe in them.



I also believe that if we see "ghosts" or "spirits" these are likely to be angels or demons. If they scare you or make you feel uncomfortable, they're more likely to be demons, of course.



Don't forget though in Luke when the angel appeared to Mary to tell her she would be mother of Jesus, he started by saying "Do not be afraid ...."



I saw what I believed at the time was a ghost when I was aged about 6. I told my mother and she suggested it was my "guardian angel". Hope she was right!!

Nataschia - posted on 03/27/2012

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Take it from a 3rd gen psychic ghosts are trapped souls lost trying to find a way to reincarnate or to yet figure out they've died ghosts are confused the bible which is a group of fables is more fictitious than ghosts not to offend we practice tolerance but there is no delicate way to say that. I've studied sociology same basic story do good or go to a bad place it is a way of keeping our society scared straight if we didn't have a code of ethics there'd be a lot of problems ghosts are real seen them since I was a baby NEVER came across a demon just those who needed me to hear or see their story

****** my strongest gift going in to a house and know if where and I feel how someone died I even pick up on personality and a favorite things they're real I will forever believe in what I believe I have an open mind and religious people should be tolerant of all religion who are you to say that's the right one especially when there were religions before Christianity or Catholicism

Nataschia - posted on 03/27/2012

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The door handle very well could have been explained and telling someone about a paranormal experience is a difficult thing especially when people think your crazy

Anne - posted on 09/20/2010

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I have to say that this conversation has been a VERY HARD one for me to read through. Do I believe in ghosts, NO, But I Do Believe In demons. We are told very clearly Not To Mess With The Spirit World. Yes we are to test the spirit of those in authority that are teachers of the word. BUT as I understand the scriptures Not Try To Contact The Spirit World in any way. I would caution any one that would try this, that they are opening themselves up to satan and his demons to take a foot hold in your life.

Lucy - posted on 09/19/2010

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I believe in spirits. As a child I heard and saw them and it can be scary at times. I saw my brother months after his death I did not take it as a demon, but as my brother trying to tell me it was okay to let go. His death devistated me being he passed when I was 8 yrs old.
I am a Bible believing Christian and proud of it and we were taught there is no such thing as ghosts, but I have my experiences.

Carla - posted on 09/17/2010

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@Heather, sorry, I used the wrong word, Samuel was NOT a ghost.

Jill - posted on 09/17/2010

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we set up a a time where my sister and her husband were gonna go and do that,,,, cast out the demons and at the last minute my mother backed out.... i don;t live near her so i could not do it on the sly... nor would i want to that would be deceitful to do it when she doesn't want it done...even if it is for her own good.... i think Satan may have a hold on her....

Heather - posted on 09/16/2010

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Carla, I thought about that, but he wasn't a ghost as being caught between this world and the next. Saul called to him and he came from heaven to communicate with Saul, I do not believe he was a ghost.

Teresa - posted on 09/16/2010

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I fully belive in ghost and spirits.I have seen and heard a lot that is very hard to n ot belive.Since my mother past over in 2008,she has been here watching over me and my grandaughter.I have picture's of enery like spirits..so your friend was not pulling your leg or messing with you she was telling you the turth..I have had the smell of cig smoke and no one smokes in our family any more and look in the backward morrie and see a friend that had just past over to the other side.we call him our ghost rider..everytime he went us to check on his family we will smell the smoke again.

Rhonda - posted on 09/16/2010

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Jil-
SInce your mom wont ask for help, have you suggested that SHE pray over her house herself, we have authority over satan and his demons (Luke 10:19) And if she won't then you should for her. I was my moms caregiver for a while and she had some issues with me being a Christian (she thought I felt I was better than her because I had re-dedicated my life to Christ) when I was at work at her house I could feel satans presence there, so as I washed dishes, or made her bed I prayed, I cast out satan through the blood of Christ. All when she wasn't around because she was offended easily, and I could feel a difference, and see a difference in her attitude. Maybe your mom would let you pray for her or even pray with you.

Carla - posted on 09/16/2010

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You guys are right, ghosts are not mentioned in the Bible except when King Saul went to the witch at Endor to call up Samuel, the prophet and his once-friend. God allowed Samuel to come back to tell Saul he was doomed (I Samuel 28:10-19). That is the one and only time I have seen anything about ghosts.

God bless all!

Jill - posted on 09/16/2010

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Cyndel and Heather you are right on about the ghosts being demons....

Heather - posted on 09/16/2010

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man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment -- Hebrews 9:27

Heather - posted on 09/16/2010

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I totally believe that God has more in store for us than whats on this earth, but that is not in the form of hanging around here in limbo. Do I believe that the stuff on Ghost Hunters is real, most of it yes. Do I believe in Ghosts, no. I believe in demons. I will not watch the show because the Bible tells me to fill my mind with what is good, pure, and worthy of praise, and there is nothing praise worthy on that show.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.

As far as books in the Bible mentioning ghosts, there aren't any, because there is no such thing.

Cyndel - posted on 09/16/2010

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Personally what people see and take as ghosts I believe to be demons. Pure and simple. When we die we either go strait to hell, or strait to the presence of God. Whenever we see 'the dead' it is a demon pretending for what ever reason they have. Demons can and do menipulate the physical.

Rosemarie - posted on 09/16/2010

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Personally, I DO believe in ghosts. I have seen the ghost of my brother when he died, and I am sure it was him.
You might want to watch Ghost Hunters on the sci-fi channel. They are on on Wednesday nights at 9:00p.m. in Va. A few episodes of that will have you believing it too. It is incredible what happens sometimes.
I prefer to believe that GOD has more in store for us than just an existence on this earth. He tells us we will live again. If that is true, then why wouldn't it be possible that there are ghosts? I agree about people's souls having energy that is detectable. I don't necessarily believe that EVERYBODY is reachable that way but I do believe that some people get left in a sort of limbo. if you will, where they can make contact with their family and friends from their previous existence.
I don't know the books or verses where ghosts are mentioned but I am sure your pastor will. Why don't you go and ask him/her? They should be able to help you with that question.

Jill - posted on 09/16/2010

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ok Carla it is a deal

Carla - posted on 09/16/2010

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@Jill, she probably thinks the message 'the bottom line is patience' is a word for her to put up with this stuff. My mother is also 80+ and very stubborn. I understand trying to argue with a doorknob ;) Will pray for your mom, you pray for mine!

God bless, honey

Jill - posted on 09/16/2010

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Cecilia ..we have suggested that on numerous occasions....she won't budge... she is 80 yrs old ... has alot of pride and doesn;t want her pastor to know of her family history.... this stuff went on in her mother's house too.... her sister and father had mental illness.... God might be letting this happen because she is not using her power in Jesus Christ to get rid of the problem.... its a strange this to watch happen....

Cecilia - posted on 09/15/2010

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Have you suggested to your mother a house cleansing or blessing? The pastors will come in and bless the house to be of the LORD, she doesn't have to tell them what's been going on they can probably sense it when they go to her house, I would be terrified if I had to live like that something in there is making her content with everything thats going on.

Jill - posted on 09/15/2010

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Lori ... you ask why does my mother put up with it? you would have to ask her.... she tells me God is in control and it's just something he is letting me go through.... i think she is being DECEIVED...but she is a stubborn lady and will not listen to anyone,... she actually just started rebuking them but i don;t think she does it consistently.... she is awakened at night to voices in her living room, she see figures in her bedroom at the foot of the bed... a little child, a lady from a different era, a thing that looked like a martian, she has even (while she was driving) her someone open her door to the car and get out and close the door... i am getting chills just typing this.... she hears voices like giving her messages... she has heard my sisters name said, the word "rape" on different occasions of course.. she said the one day she ordered shoes in the mail and her voices that night saying "we own that shoe company"...( chills again....).. this has only gone on since my father died in '95 he was not a christian.. so i would say it is demonic and she had agreed... but the other night she heard "the bottom line is patience" and now all of a sudden she thinks its from above.. i think satan would say something like that just so he could get her attention....i could go on and on ... it is bizzare ...beyond bizarre... and the only thing i can do for her is pray.... and pray and have others pray .. but bottom line is who in there right mind could live like this??????????

Lori - posted on 09/15/2010

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There are absolutely angels and demons, they bible speaks very clearly of them. The bible also speaks of demonic oppression and possession. There is a difference. Opression is the devil pressing on you and making you feel depressed, angry, sad, etc....Possession is where the demon that was opressing you finally got a foothold into your soul. I think every one of you who has posted would be very interested in the book The believer's Authority. This book talks about the things addressed in this discussion and more. It tells us that we do not have to just sit back and let the devil invade our families and homes. We have the power through Jesus Christ to send him running. To the women whose mother just "puts up with it" why?? You don't need your pastor to take care of this for you. He or She has no more power than you. When Christ died we died with him, when he was raised from the dead, we rose with him and now he sits on the right hand of God, we sit with him! Therefore as believers and the body of Christ we have the power in Jesus Name to rebuke the devil and command him to leave our homes. He has already beeen beaten there is no need for us as Christians to sit back and think we have no power. There is a song that sings "We've got the power, in the name of Jesus, We've got the power, in the name of the Lord, though satan rages, we will not be defeated, we've got the power, in the name of the Lord. I highly reccommend reading The Believer's Authority. If you are skeptical then Read the book of Ephesians because that is where the author gets many of his scriptures and examples. The devil does exist and he has an army of demons but GOD is bigger than any army he will ever have and thru the son of God we have the power to make them tremble. The bible says the devil trembles at the name of Jesus, do we in ourselves have the power, absolutely not, it is thru Jesus Christ that we have the authority over the devil. Hope this helps.

Jill - posted on 09/15/2010

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Carla i just got the chills reading that ...remembering my childhood...

Carla - posted on 09/15/2010

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Paul said 'absent from the body is present with the Lord.' I don't think there are ghosts out there, either good or bad. I do, however, greatly believe in demons. Here's my story:

I was having an asthma attack, I was about 13. I was in the top bunk and my dad was standing on the bottom bunk praying for me. I saw a shadow-thing and it pushed my dad down. He called my mother, and the three of us started praying and the shadow left. I believe Satan was trying to kill me by not allowing Dad to pray for me.

Also remember the story about Lazarus, the beggar and the rich man (Luke 16:19-31). They both died, Lazarus was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom, the rich man went to hell. Their 'energy' or whatever didn't hang around. I know these shows like 'Ghost Whisperer' romanticize the spirits being ushered into Heaven, but it's fiction. Remember also in Job where the sons of God came before Him and Satan came also. God said 'whatcha been doing?' Satan said 'oh, just walking around on Earth'.

Your friend's story sounds like something off 'Ghost Hunters'.

God bless, sweetie!

Cecilia - posted on 09/15/2010

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I have to agree that the bible says there are no such thing as ghosts but yet I've expierenced something like it, I don't believe it was good rather evil in fact, I was having a discussion with my father and brother about the devil and how I hated him and all, I stomped on the ground and said the devil doesn't scare me etc.. I was listening to christian music in my room loudly I had an angel figure and a pic of jesus on top of my speakers, all of a sudden my pic fell, my angel fell and broke, my door shut. I ran out and didn't want to go back in my room. I also feel that sometimes I'm being watched and in dreams I feel that demons are holding me down not allowing me to speak when I'm trying to scream, I know there is a supernatural world but I don't want any part of the negative side, I'd rather have encounters with the angels.

Rachel - posted on 09/14/2010

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I find it sad that so many Christians dont' believe in the spiritual world... deeming it too "weird" I do believe that the many ghosts that people see and such are demons, and yes I think that they are there just to decieve us, many people will say that these "ghosts" told them that they are fine and will try to imply that everyone can get to heaven and such but if it isnt' what the bible says then it is not the TRUTH.
I know that my mom had an experiance that is unexplainable other than the practicing witch in the basement... but she was kept safe through the power of God... just remember He who is in you is grater than Satan and his fallen angels, so we have no need to fear or become preoccupied with such things.

Jill - posted on 09/14/2010

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if i told you the things my mother goes through with the spirits in her house you would just cry.... the sad thing is my mother is a "proud" christian and has never told her pastor about it because of her familial history ( her sister and father had mental illness) she is afraid she will be percieved as crazy... so she puts up with it...

Rebecca - posted on 09/14/2010

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No, I don't want to communicate with them! I was just curious on what the bible said, because my "friend" swears there's a ghost, and I definitely heard something, but don't know what. And there are so many things that can be explained somehow. I'm sure there may be an explanation to what I heard that night, but for the life of me I can't figure out what that may be. This just piqued my curiosity and I thought I would post the question!!!

Jill - posted on 09/14/2010

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if it is not an Angel ...why would you want to communicate with a ghost or spirit.... that is from the evil one.... i doubt that they are coming just to say hello....

Megan - posted on 09/14/2010

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well, here's my two cents - the bible states that heavenly beings (angels) exist and that demonic creatures exist, so, it is possible that there could be something. i'm not saying i don't believe you, actually i kind of do but i'm also skeptical. i don't believe unless there is proof beyond reasonable doubt. there is too much trickery these days that nearly everything can be debunked. so if you believe that what you saw and heard could be paranormal, then it could be so. i believe in ghosts and spirits, they were probably just saying hello!

Rebecca - posted on 09/13/2010

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That's very interesting. I didn't think about it being demons or angels. I supposed they can "possess" a human? You know, I'd love to do an in depth study on this (biblically based, of course!). Thanks for the clarity ladies!

Jill - posted on 09/13/2010

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i have to agree with Heather... there are no such thing as ghosts... but demons ... i say a big YES to that.... my mother has and currently experiences them in her house as did her mother in her house... i thank God that he has his arm of protection around me as i do not have them in my house .... nor do i welcome them....

Heather - posted on 09/13/2010

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I do not believe in ghosts, as in someone being caught between life and death. When we die we face judgement and then take our place in heaven or hell. However, I have heard stories similar to yours, and experienced something similar myself. I do not think these are ghosts, but demons. Manifestations created by Satan to delude people and keep them from the Truth. Satan can use them to get people to hold onto the past, or to escape the present. While I don't always agree with Got Questions, their answer to this was perfect! http://www.gotquestions.org/ghosts-haunt...