HPV vaccine, will you vaccinate your daughter?

Shannon - posted on 03/25/2009

Quoting Shelly:

THEY DONT PUT KIDS ON COCAINE! she was saying that it is LIKE putting kids on cocaine, meaning putting them on an addictive drug that is no good for them. THEY DONT PUT THEM ON COCAINE! ITS A FIGURE OF SPEECH>

Accually that IS what I ment amphetamines are like cocainne......look it up they are adictive and distroy your childrens brains

Shelly - posted on 03/25/2009

I don't believe in sex before marriage, but as we are seeing, that is not an affective way of "preventing" sex before marriage. SO many kids are having sex, getting an std, or getting pregnant, or even worse, loosing a part of themselves that is meant for the person God has designed for them. We need to find a more realistic approach to this issue than to just say "you cant have sex, you need to wait, because GOd says."  Its true, but its not working with our kids today. I didn't have sex in high school because SO many of my friends ended up getting pregnant in high school. I was and am a very strong Christian during high school and now as well, but that wasn't why I felt like I needed to wait. The fear of getting pregnant like my friends was more of a motivator than because God says so. Im just saying, we need to find a more realistic and practical approach to this issue. We are only human, and we Christians make mistakes, and many times for many strong Christians this is the mistake that they end up making. How can we as parents make this more practical and realistic?

Shelly - posted on 03/25/2009

THEY DONT PUT KIDS ON COCAINE! she was saying that it is LIKE putting kids on cocaine, meaning putting them on an addictive drug that is no good for them. THEY DONT PUT THEM ON COCAINE! ITS A FIGURE OF SPEECH>

Ashley - posted on 03/25/2009

Quoting Shannon:

Quoting Ashley:

I will definitely get my daughter vaccinated. If there is even the smallest possibility I can prevent her getting cervical cancer I will do it, but not until she is older.

So your willing to risk her life so she will not get hpv?? Girls have died from getting this shot

 

I got it and I'm fine. Plus, like I said-- we'd wait until she was a little older. That way they can impove upon it and she and I can have the sex talk around the same time.

Keela - posted on 03/24/2009

Good luck keeping your girls celibant. I was raised in church and taught gods law,but I did it anyways. Do what you feel is right for your children, I dont believe protecting them is granting permission to have sex. If you raise your children the right way and teach them your values regardless of giving them a shot (which they dont need to know what it is for,they get lots of shots do they know what everyone is exactly for) there behavior will reflect your parenting. Where you a virgin when you got married and how about all of your friends? i think its ideal to wait... I believe very few acutally do.

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting Hilary:

Quoting Shelly:

I will not be having my daughter get the vaccine when she is old enough. It is too new of a vaccine so they don't know the long-term side effects of it and I have heard their are some really bad, if not deadly side effects from this vaccine. Some girls given this vaccine have had some nasty side effects like nausea, passing out, numbness in the arm, and some have died from the vaccine. If anything, google the vaccine and read some articles and you can also go to the CDC website and also American Pediatrics website. And beyond that, I don't believe in giving a shot to my daughter that basically says, "Here's a shot for when you have sex."

My husband and I have also not yet decided whether we will have our now 10 year old daughter vaccinated.  But, as far as the statements regarding this shot being licence for your daughter to be sexually active, I totally disagree.  Why does sex even have to be brought up in your discussion about this vaccine with your child?  If we do decide to have our daughter vaccinated, I don't plan to associate it with sexual activity at all, but just to explain to her that this vaccine is designed to prevent certain types of a disease that women can get that can possibly lead to cancer.

The reason sex is being brought up is daaa the shot is to prevent an STD......SEXUALLY transmitted disease.........Its in the title........Giving your kid the vaccine is like just handing then a condom and saying here just incase!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting Sharie:

My daughter is 16 and she is not getting the vaccine.  Abstinence will prevent the STDs, but the maker's primary focus is on cervical cancer (causes of this can be linked back to STDs).  I feel it is a ploy to promote promiscuity.  If we go back to grassroot Christian training and promote the necessity of yearly physical exams, there would be no need for this drug.  Besides, do you really want to inject a foreign substance into your body?

You are so right and I have got hpv from my boyfriend 18 years ago and I never got and still dont have cancer!! and would never get the shot or give it to my kids

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting Ashley:

I will definitely get my daughter vaccinated. If there is even the smallest possibility I can prevent her getting cervical cancer I will do it, but not until she is older.

So your willing to risk her life so she will not get hpv?? Girls have died from getting this shot

Ashley - posted on 03/24/2009

I will definitely get my daughter vaccinated. If there is even the smallest possibility I can prevent her getting cervical cancer I will do it, but not until she is older.

Sharie - posted on 03/24/2009

My daughter is 16 and she is not getting the vaccine.  Abstinence will prevent the STDs, but the maker's primary focus is on cervical cancer (causes of this can be linked back to STDs).  I feel it is a ploy to promote promiscuity.  If we go back to grassroot Christian training and promote the necessity of yearly physical exams, there would be no need for this drug.  Besides, do you really want to inject a foreign substance into your body?

Hilary - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting Shelly:

I will not be having my daughter get the vaccine when she is old enough. It is too new of a vaccine so they don't know the long-term side effects of it and I have heard their are some really bad, if not deadly side effects from this vaccine. Some girls given this vaccine have had some nasty side effects like nausea, passing out, numbness in the arm, and some have died from the vaccine. If anything, google the vaccine and read some articles and you can also go to the CDC website and also American Pediatrics website. And beyond that, I don't believe in giving a shot to my daughter that basically says, "Here's a shot for when you have sex."

My husband and I have also not yet decided whether we will have our now 10 year old daughter vaccinated.  But, as far as the statements regarding this shot being licence for your daughter to be sexually active, I totally disagree.  Why does sex even have to be brought up in your discussion about this vaccine with your child?  If we do decide to have our daughter vaccinated, I don't plan to associate it with sexual activity at all, but just to explain to her that this vaccine is designed to prevent certain types of a disease that women can get that can possibly lead to cancer.

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting April:

they put kids on cocaine??? ive never heard of that!!

Most if not all ADHD meds are amphetamine's   that is the same as cocainne and speed and crack see no one checks out these meds fist

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/24/2009

(It posted before I could add this: We did not get pregnant before we were married. It was because of the grace of God- I had a cyst burst 3 months after we were married, and we got pregnant after my body healed from the surgery. NOW that is not to say that I have not had to pay for my actions. I have in ways some people will never understand)

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/24/2009

I believe in teaching absitence only, but I have to admit, that while I was dating my husband, I went through a rebellious stage where we were sexually active- he was and has been my only partner, and ditto for him. I was seriously considering walking away from my faith. Because of how my parents handled (or didn't handle) the whole sexual experienc between a man and a woman, I had no idea what "sex" actually was until I was a Jr. in high school- and let me tell you from personal expereience, it is in the approach you use. We (my siblings and I) thought for sure we would be dead if we ended up pregnant before marriage. Well, because I didn't know what sex was, and because of my parents' attitude, I did end up making the choice to be sexually active. It might sound hypocritical to say absitence only, but I know what being sexually active before marriage has done to my marriage~ I just wish my parents had told me the truth, and that their attitude would have been so much different than it was.

Jamie - posted on 03/24/2009

I have three daughters and WILL NOT give them this vaccination. I hopeschool my girls and therefore I do not need to give them any vaccination at all. Check into your laws...I have a friend who doesnt vaccinate her kids at all and they go to public school. I think there is some fine print in there somewhere...for religious purposes...they cant descriminate. Raise your children to follow God and you wont have an issue. I have been a foster parent for 6yrs and all my foster girls have had this or got this vaccine while living with me. I have had girls move in who already had HPV and this vaccine didnt do everything it claimed. and I had a girl get HPV after she had the vaccine...its not all they say it is..plus it is waaay too new to trust. Your girls are precious, beautiful little creatures...dont trust modern medicine for everything..TRUST GOD!!

April - posted on 03/24/2009

they put kids on cocaine??? ive never heard of that!!

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

YES IT IS SAD TO THINK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON MEDICATIONS THAT DONT NEED TO BE.



THE KIDS IS WHAT MAKES ME MAD SO MANY OF OUR KIDS ON MEDS THAT ARE LIKE COCAINNE ITS SO SAD THAT PEOPLE JUST DO WHAT THE DR SAIS AND DONT CHECK IT OUT FIRST

Cathi - posted on 03/24/2009

That is true Shannon. It's all about the money... Imagine the compromise they inflict on people these days with the economy.

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

THE FDA IS NOT ALL PEOPLE MAY THINK......THE DRS ON THE FDA PANEL RECIEVE MONEY $$$$ FROM THE BIG PHARMA COMPANIES ......TALK ABOUT A CONFLICT OF INTREST......RECEARCH THAT......GENERATION RX (MOVIE)

Cathi - posted on 03/24/2009

I worked in bio-medical research for the past year before our adoption and pregnancy. We did studies on things such as flu vaccinations, meningitis vaccinations, diabetic pills, etc... Although I support the research on new medications, I still think we need to step up to the plate and teach our children how to avoid alot of these diseases. They are preventable. I am against the HPV shot for my daughter who is only 14. That's the same as for birth control pills which it's main purpose is to prevent pregnancy, but also clears up acne for some, lightens one's period etc.. I am not going to put my daughter on birth control pills to help other problems she may encounter. The HPV has not been out long enough to know its effects and doesn't work for everyone.

Here's a twist for you though.

When I was 4 months pregnant with my now 14 year old daughter, I was raped. Mind you I had never slept with anyone but my husband, and got clamidia from the man who raped me. Now, if I would have been vaccinated with HPV, could I have been protected? I went to my ob doctor and they put me on medication which took care of it. Some would think in a situation like that the vaccination would be an asset.

It all boils down to doing your own research and praying about it. I am not against certain vaccinations, however, there are plenty of vaccinations that are helpful and do not have serious side effects and have been proven over many many years to work. This HPV is not one of those. One life lost to a vaccination is a high risk not worth being FDA approved until it is improved with low risk.

Shannon - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting Beckie:

April, I say no to the HPV vaccine. I actually say no to all vaccines and yes my children are in public schools. The law can not FORCE you to receive vaccines. Chiropractors believe in wellness and do not support them either.
I too have had some bad paps and had some treatments and I still won't let my daughters (I have 6) get the shot. Keep teaching God's word and tell them to wait and pray now that their future husband waits as well. I didn't wait either and I hope my children learn from my past.
It can all be confusing and scary but trust in God's plan.

Agree with you 100%... most Chiropractors dont believe in vaccines specialy a maximized living doc.

I do think people need to teach there kids to not have sex before marrage. That is what god wants them to do and that is all that matters!! 

April - posted on 03/24/2009

brooke, thank you for clarifying what you meant- I too will be teaching my children abstinence only , I dont know how to balance that with what they hear everywhere else they go???? that is why I was asking how a parent deals with questions about the sins of the people they love and respect and listen to- and how they handle that. I have already started bringing these things up with my older 2, especailly when they ask questions about marriage and babies. Its a wonderful opportunity for bringing them God's word and the blessings that come with following his law!

Lauren - posted on 03/24/2009

The shot is killing girls! At least wait until they can improve it

Brooke - posted on 03/24/2009

I have been affected by my husband's choice of having sex outside of marriage with someone before me. It has affected ALOT of areas in our life and marriage. THis is exactly why my husband and I will teach our children that abstinence is the ONLY option. I know first hand that they can go against what they are taught. ( I was raised in a Christian home and we were taught that sex outside of marriage was a sin. My older sister made a mistake and she had a baby at the age of 17. This baby girl has been such a blessing to our entire family but it did change many things in our family dynamics. She is now 14, by theway) I know eveyone sins and has fallen short of the glory of God. The conviction we have is that if the only message they are taught is abstinence all the way, then we believe that's what will press upn their hearts. We also don't believe in dating......courting only. The entire purpose of courtship is to find the mate God has for you, so why in the world does a 14, 15, 16 year old need to find a life-mate? I know fully many people( esp. Christians) disagree with our beliefs. It's what God puts on each believer's heart. I didn't mean to sound like I wouldn't or didn't have compassion on those who have lasting consequences because of past mistakes. I just know how much it's affected my life in many areas.....my sister's decision and my husband's.

April - posted on 03/24/2009

I agree with you to a point, that we should usually live with the consequences of our actions. but when the consequences have such a big impact on the entire family, spouse, children, its really hard to see. I think because we are ALL sinful human beings, we are all prone to making mistakes- I would never teach my child that it is no big deal, heres a condom, but if they DO make a mistake, I would hope that would not carry over to their child or spouse (not only cancer, but herpes, hepatitis, aids) I would worry that the child would pay for the sins of the mother or father in that regard. have a cousin who was infected with hep c by his mom at birth, has a hard time with the stigma of it when he did nothing wrong to cause this for himself. also, the many children who are infected or left parentless because of cancer or aids (yes I realize I'm getting away from the cervical cancer issue which is the main, but that isnt ALWAYS treated and problemless either,) its not just the actual sinner living with their own consequences then. so I guess my question is, what is the balance between what is absolutely right (what God says and what I teach my kids) and protecting against things that have an impact on everyone? I know that is a tough one, and no I;'m not trying to start an arguement, I really want honest answers here. for those of you (me included) who did not wait until marriage, or your spouse didnt, how do you discuss God's law with your kids and answer if they ask about your sins? this is something I will probably face with my kids....

Brooke - posted on 03/24/2009

Quoting Beckie:

April, I say no to the HPV vaccine. I actually say no to all vaccines and yes my children are in public schools. The law can not FORCE you to receive vaccines. Chiropractors believe in wellness and do not support them either.
I too have had some bad paps and had some treatments and I still won't let my daughters (I have 6) get the shot. Keep teaching God's word and tell them to wait and pray now that their future husband waits as well. I didn't wait either and I hope my children learn from my past.
It can all be confusing and scary but trust in God's plan.

My husband and I pray for our son and daughter's future mate as well. I know people make mistakes but God's Word also tells us in James 5:16b that fervent prayers of righteous men avail much !

Lisa - posted on 03/24/2009

I agree with Rebekah!  I'm a nurse and feel the same way.  Here's a link to the website from MERCK the makers of the vaccine.  It's made for healthcare professionals, although I think most of it is pretty easy to understand.  The adverse reactions and number of deaths associated with the vaccine is not a risk I'm willing to take.  Here's the link: http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circ...

Brooke - posted on 03/24/2009

Personally, my husband and I have decided to NOT get this vaccine for our daughter. We believe in abstinence till marriage and for us this gives a girl an okay to make a "mistake". It protects her against something that you can only get from sex. I was a virgin until marriage, my husband had made a past mistake. We know both sides of the coin and will teach our children how deep an impact sex outside of marriage has on the marriage God intends for them. If they choose to sin in this area, then they must live with any concequences that their sin brought. I know LOTS will disagree with me but this is the conviction my husband and I have on this topic.

April - posted on 03/24/2009

dont you have to get 3 shots before its considered vaccinated? what did you do about the other shots? and do you know if you are supposed to get boosters?

Juli - posted on 03/24/2009

Lots of good conversation here :)

I'll just add my family's personal experience.

When my daughter was 17 she got the HPV vaccine.

According to the nurse, if you are going to have an allergic reaction, it will be within 30 minutes. Hence we were required to stay in the dr. office 30 minutes afterward.



Now we live on a farm, and the next day she was out in the fields with our goats. When she came in that evening (28 hours after the shot), she was a little itchy, developed a mild rash.



Long story short, 3 days later, she is hiving out from her scalp to her soles and we are at the Dr. office again. It's an allergic reaction. Her first in her life.

We're blessed it wasn't an anaphylactic reaction.

There's supposed to be a low chance of this happening, but when Virginia (our state) was looking at making this thing mandatory, more stories like this came out of the woodwork than you would believe!



Had she not had an allergic reaction I would probably think it's a good thing though.

Honestly.



A parent and young person need to carefully weigh the odds, and pray about it as well...

April - posted on 03/24/2009

I forgot to mention, the stuff I've looked up on cervical cancer..... 90% of cases are caused by hpv strains.... also, cervical cancer deaths have gone WAY down, due to education and prevention and paps (early detection) my good news is that they think I may have andeocarcinoma in situ (plainspeak thats precancer that is non invasive) which is treated by removing the cells- if that doesnt work, the cervix, glands, and maybe uterus will go. but you are right, the vaccine only protects against I think 4 of the most high risk strains. I WILL look up side effects and overall usefulness though- thanks for the info!

Shelly - posted on 03/24/2009

By the way...The vaccine does not protect against all strains of cervical cancer, from what I am understanding it only protects against the hpv from an std. If it would protect against all forms of cervical cancer and not just the one transmitted via sexual contact then that would be a different story.  I am very pro-vaccines and believe they should be given. A lot of deadly diseases have been erraticated because of vaccinations (such as polio). Their has been an increase in once erraticated or barely seen diseases because of lack of vaccinations such as Pertusis, Haemophilus influenza, Measells, and mumps. I would suggest doing research about vaccinations before just not doing them. Research all sides and weigh out the pro's and con's on not vaccinating and if its what works best for your child.

Shelly - posted on 03/24/2009

I will not be having my daughter get the vaccine when she is old enough. It is too new of a vaccine so they don't know the long-term side effects of it and I have heard their are some really bad, if not deadly side effects from this vaccine. Some girls given this vaccine have had some nasty side effects like nausea, passing out, numbness in the arm, and some have died from the vaccine. If anything, google the vaccine and read some articles and you can also go to the CDC website and also American Pediatrics website. And beyond that, I don't believe in giving a shot to my daughter that basically says, "Here's a shot for when you have sex."

Beckie - posted on 03/24/2009

April, I say no to the HPV vaccine. I actually say no to all vaccines and yes my children are in public schools. The law can not FORCE you to receive vaccines. Chiropractors believe in wellness and do not support them either.
I too have had some bad paps and had some treatments and I still won't let my daughters (I have 6) get the shot. Keep teaching God's word and tell them to wait and pray now that their future husband waits as well. I didn't wait either and I hope my children learn from my past.
It can all be confusing and scary but trust in God's plan.

Kimberly - posted on 03/24/2009

Right now I am not having my daughter take it. She is 12, but I want to wait a few more years for the research to continue.

Ashley - posted on 03/23/2009

3 months after i had my son. i was diagnosed with HPV. so my doctor did a biopsy and it came back negative for cervical cancer. that was the longest week of my life waiting for those results. but looking back i still would not get the shot because cervical cancer is one of the most easily treated cancer. they take a laser and burn off the bad cells, and my doc told me that cervical cancer is the most slowest progressing cancers. so i wouldn't risk getting her the shot. it's very treatable.

Kayleigh - posted on 03/23/2009

I don't have a daughter but if I did I wouldn't. New vaccines are never that good. I haven't really done any research on it so I don't know that much about it. I would talk to my doctor and do a ton of research before even considering it. Just like what I've done for all my sons vaccines.

Shaelyn - posted on 03/23/2009

i was diagnosed with hpv when i was 4 weeks pregnant and i was informed there are over 50 something strands and most of them are not std's my husband and i both waited till we were married and i will teach my daughter the same. but unforunately you can only teach what God wants us to do and pray that God leads them in the right direction. i think that it is great to provent things from happening and i will give my daughter this vacination just because everyone is human and if she makes a mistake and i can provent her from going threw this pain then i will. to be honest its up to you and your family. you should pray about it you do have 3 years and time to do more research good luck!

Shannon - posted on 03/23/2009

Quoting April:

thats what I was wondering- how long the vaccine has been out. I dont know of side effects but am a lot leery over any new drug/vaccine. I just dont want my daughters to go through this stress that I am now. I pray for them every night, and pray that I do everything I can as a mom to show them the right way to go.

I know one of the side effects is death, please research all vaccines........http://www.nvic.org/......check this website

April - posted on 03/23/2009

thanks cheryl! The reminder is awesome!

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/23/2009

April,

Don't allow Satan to have a foothold in your life. I too was active with my husband before marriage. By grace you have been saved.



Jesus,

I lift up my sister in You, April. Lord, I would ask that You would take these feelings away from her. These feelings are not from You. You promised in Psalms that as far as the east is from the west, so great is Your Father's love, and that You remember our sins no longer. I also ask that as April and her husband have some choices to make, that You would guide thier steps

April - posted on 03/23/2009

thanks for the encouragement, I know its a ways off, but I didnt know much about the vaccine. I didnt know anything about hpv until I found out I've had it all this time. Amanda, for most women it goes away on its own for about 10% it will hang on longer. there are also many diff. types of the virus, some low and high risk. I have the high risk that CAN (but doesnt always) cause cervical cancer. right now I'm finding out that I need more testing to find out if I do. for the low risk hpv, the majority cause genital warts I think. I'm so sorry you had to go through the trauma of a rape, and am thankful that you did not contract anything from him.



I have been with my husband for 10 years, and only my husband. before I met him I had other boyfriends who I had slept with using protection(which doesnt protect from hpv always). I am only sharing this because I'm in shock and feel disgusted with myself right now and my past choices, even though I am forgiven in Christ.

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/23/2009

Amanda,

I can understand your position~ it is a hard thing to know what to do :)

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/23/2009

My prayers are with you April, because this is a decsion that will be hard for both you and your husband to come to agree upon. May God grant you the wisdom you both need to make this choice!!!



Thanks for being willing to be honest with strangers!!!

Shannon - posted on 03/23/2009

Quoting Cheryl- Chris:

Granted Shannon, right now, I don't have to worry about it being mandatory. Because I don't know where you live, state laws are different. When I was pregnant with my first child, I had to be tested for STDs.......If I hadn't been tested, I would not have been able to take my son home with me until HE had been tested. State law for NY~ thanks to all the liberals.

Im just saying that I would move before anyone mandated me to do anything with my children......That desition is up to god and my husband and I.

Amanda - posted on 03/23/2009

 Maybe I'm new to this but I had hpv 12 yrs ago and have no longer had any problems with it. I was under the understanding that it is not just from a STD that it is a form of cancer. Is there something i am missing? I would love for my daughter to get the shot when she's a few years older. I don't want her to think it's ok to have sex just because of the shot and I don't think that's what its saying. I was raped by my boy friend when I was 14yrs old and I was blessed not to get anything from it what if that happens to my daughter and she does get something from it. I would want to protect her from everything I can. There comes in the shot, helping to protect if (heaven forbid) something like that happens. Maybe I'm wrong for thinking like that but if it prevents then better safe than sorry. We can educate our kids about God's plan for sex but we can't make their choices for them we have to pray that they chose God's way but protect them in anyway we can as a parent.

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/23/2009

Granted Shannon, right now, I don't have to worry about it being mandatory. Because I don't know where you live, state laws are different. When I was pregnant with my first child, I had to be tested for STDs.......If I hadn't been tested, I would not have been able to take my son home with me until HE had been tested. State law for NY~ thanks to all the liberals.

Shannon - posted on 03/23/2009

Quoting Cheryl- Chris:

This is a hard one~ but I don't think I will get my girls vaccined when I have them.....Of course, if NY keeps being stupid.....law will require it by the time I do have girls......

April,
remember, some things we as parents decide on, the law will change for us. I know this sounds so trite, but I am leaving this kind of stress up to God for right now. Obviously, this is a more pressing concern for you, and I am not making light of that. I believe that mothers have even more stress when it comes to our children's health~ I know I do. I will ask my husband what he thinks, and he will reply, "It's up to you."

Valid concerns that is for sure :)

FYI It will never be manditory to vaccinate and if someone says it is challange it because this is your life and you make the decition not the state or government...I would run and run fast if they tryed to make me vaccinate and put that poison into my baby

Shannon - posted on 03/23/2009

No dont do it God didnt forget this vaccine when he made your baby so perfect. And I have heard of girls dying from this.

Cheryl- Chris - posted on 03/23/2009

This is a hard one~ but I don't think I will get my girls vaccined when I have them.....Of course, if NY keeps being stupid.....law will require it by the time I do have girls......



April,

remember, some things we as parents decide on, the law will change for us. I know this sounds so trite, but I am leaving this kind of stress up to God for right now. Obviously, this is a more pressing concern for you, and I am not making light of that. I believe that mothers have even more stress when it comes to our children's health~ I know I do. I will ask my husband what he thinks, and he will reply, "It's up to you."



Valid concerns that is for sure :)