Vaccines???

Tanice - posted on 07/13/2009 ( 13 moms have responded )

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Safe or something that should be looked at more carefully? Any thoughts?

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Cindy - posted on 07/16/2009

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I am both a mom and a public health nurse. I've done extensive research into the topic of vaccines; from talking to the drug reps to reading what the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention says to alternative schedules to Dr. Sears book, etc... I believe vaccines are one of the best health prevention tools we have. I give vaccines all the time to kids (my own included when needed) and have not seen any major reactions. The worst reaction I saw was a teenage girl who fainted after getting a shot.
Also, a mom earlier said that the flu vaccine is live; that is only partialy correct. The flu shot is "dead" or attenuated, but the flu vaccine given by nasal spray is live.
Here at our health dept, we try to accomodate parents that want to space out vaccines, but that requires multiple trips to our clinic and that's more time that the child is unprotected.
Some other resources are books by Dr. Paul Offitt, www.cdc.gov, and the American Academy of Pediatrics' website.

Vicki - posted on 07/15/2009

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I think this topic is controversial for a reason. Thimerosal is a murcury based preservative (a toxic substance), and used to be present in almost all vaccines. Now it has been removed from most of them, but make sure you voice your concern to the pediatrician, in addition to reading the label YOURSELF. Also, make your own vaccine schedule, spacing vaccinations as far apart as possible. This lessens the impact on the tiny one's system.



If you want to read more about it, I suggest the book "Poison Nation" by Loretta Schwartz-Nobel. Here's a quote from page 93 of the book:

Dr. Robert Johnson, an immunologist from the University of Colorado, said this to a group of colleages at a conference to discuss the safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines: "I do not want my grandson to get a thimerosal-containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time...I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meanwhile, I think I want that grandson to only be given thimerosal-free vaccines."

Monica - posted on 07/14/2009

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It is a Very hard decision wether to vaccinate or not. I have read Jenny McCarthy's books on the subject that include many women whose lives have been forever affected by vaccinating their children. Not just by Autism. There are also "alternative" vaccination schedules based on which book you read. It's soo confusing and frustrating! I too, am trying to make the best decision for my son. I have been talked to by many doctors in a very belittling and condescending manner when I've questioned the safety of vaccines. Our vaccination schedules have changed since I was a baby (in the early 70's) and we didn't seem to mass vaccinate back then. Why do Doctors' take my questions as a personal attack against them? I'm just trying to be well informed and make the best decision for my son. How do they explain the 300% increase in Autism? Also, I called a new Doctor and asked if the vaccines still have mercury in them and his nurse told me "yes" because that is what the manufacturers use to preserve the vaccine. I am even going out of my insurance network to see a Doctor who is more "open" and willing to work with me on choosing the right vaccinations for my child. Yes, as a christian we absolutely need to seek the Lord in all things, but I also think that we as parents need to be well informed and then we can make the best choice for our family.

Melinda - posted on 07/14/2009

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Read: 'The Vaccine Book: Making the Right Decision for Your Child' by Robert Sears - it's very informative about the pros and cons and even shows you what is actually in each vaccination so that you know what you're putting into your baby's body.
My husband and I opted NOT to vaccinate our daughter, I know a few families who has had at least one child each become autistic after receiving them and though they say it has not been proven to be linked, celebrities like 'Jim Carrey and his wife, Jenny McCarthy' talk very openly that it was what caused autism in their son. Mind you, it's not the vaccines themselves, it's the additional components they add to balance the vaccines so that they can put 3 or more in each shot. Also, don't think that just because your child receives a vaccine that they won't catch certain illnesses....everyone I know who gets the flu shot - gets some form of the flu within 2 weeks afterward, while I on the other hand, who doesn't receive the shot Doesn't get the Flu. There was also an incident at a local school that had a breakout of Chicken Pox among children who had the vaccine for it prior to school, teachers also got it in the form of Shingles. So just pray about it with your husband and if you decide to do it, definitely pray over your child and you can also get a detox at health place that's safe for his age group that will flush out the unnecessary components. You'll make the right decision :)

Carolee - posted on 07/14/2009

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Hello Tanice ! My husband and are choosing not to vaccinate.
I would recommend going over to the No Vaccines Communities and seeing what they have to say before you make your choice.
It's a good idea to hear both sides if you haven't already:D

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Also just a clarification...when babies are given "live" vaccines, they are de-natured, which means they are weakened, so there's VERY little risk of the baby actually getting the infection. Even if they did, it would be very mild. When my pediatrician explained that it really helped relieve my mind!

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Hi Tanice, this can definitely be a confusing issue! I couldn't believe how opinionated my friends were on the subject, and they range all the way from no vaccines at all to spacing them out, to getting all the scheduled vaccines on time. I'm a first time mom, and we just had my son's two month check up. We decided to get him immunized after doing a lot of reserach. I think unfortunately people today are listening more to celebrities than to Doctors (who by the way have debunked the myth that vaccines cause autism). I think if you discussed slowing down the immunizations (if that makes you more comfortable) your Dr. should be fine with that. My pediatrician said they'll do anything that will encourage parents to immunize, even if it means more visits to the clinic. Personally, we decided we'd rather have less shots, so we did them all at once! I was concerned about how my son would react, but he only cried during the shots, and then settled down right away. He fell asleep in the car on the way home, and was completely himself again when he woke up! There are definitely risks (fever, and even seizures in rare cases), but I believe they outweigh the dangers of going without vaccinations. Our generation doesn't realize what life was like before vaccines! We are blessed to have the medical technology to protect from terrible (even fatal) diseases. Good luck with your decision!

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My son got all his vaccines through his 6 month check up right on schedule. I have since decided to space them out a bit. I'm not sure why except that I was getting very nervous as his one year check up approached. I told his doctor that I didn't want to give him more than one new shot at a time and no more than 2 shots total at a time. The doc was completely fine w/ it. :)

Rabecca - posted on 07/14/2009

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I think also no tjust considering your own children but you have to take into consideration other peoples kids who are not at the age to vac. yet if you choose no tto you can unwillingly put other kids at risk for life threating diease by exposing then to your kids and I know for one I would do anything to protect my own child but what ever choice I make for them is because I love them and want to do whats best but if I put someones child at risk for something that they had no control over I couldnt live with that just another aspect of vacines

Marta - posted on 07/14/2009

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Quoting Rebekah:

I believe vaccines are safe, but with anything in the medical profession should always do your research on them. My choice was to delay all shots for 6 months because of the blood brain barrier and I will not give my baby live vaccines until right before they enter school - not because of so-called autism risks but because the blood brain barrier is not completely developed by age 2. My other choice is that I didn't want my son getting his shots all at once, they will give almost 4-6 shots at one time, I chose to do one shot at a time to make sure there were no reactions, after that then I did 2 at a time as long as it wasn't a new shot. If your child reacts and they received 4-6 shots in one visit, the doctor does not truly know which one your child reacted to, since most of the reactions are all the same with the vaccines. My son will have all shots, I think it's necessary or all these diseases that we never really had a problem with will come back and they will come back stronger because they will have developed an immunity to the vaccines. There are allergic reactions, ask your doctor about these. And as with all vaccines your baby may run a fever, be a little fussy, more tired than normal... but I noticed after round 2 vaccines my son didn't get as fussy or as tired.

I truly believe that if you pray over your child everything will be fine.



The early vaccines are not live vaccines since the childs immune system would not be able to fight off the infection properly; flu vaccines on the other hand are live. The first batch consists of  DTaP-IPV-Hib1, Pneumococcal conjugate, Meningococcal conjugate.

Tanice - posted on 07/14/2009

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Thank you ladies! I know it is something my husband and I have been praying about and since our little guy is 2 1/2 months we were wanting to make a decision soon. I have a natural health practioner I see and she recommended the same as what you did Rebekah, for the same reasons, but my sister is a public health nurse and said they can't do that. I told her I thought that was incorrect....and so nice to talk to someone that has done it. My question is how did you get your Dr. on board with going against the grain so to speak? I too agree that praying over him is very key and see that's where my husband and I are on the fence. You pray, trust God, but then get the shot just in cause? Or don't get it and what if something happens you could have prevented? It's just a hard choice, because there is lots of information out there that talks about the vaccines themselves being sketchy in terms of what's really in them and then yes you hear things like the links to autism...etc. I will keep praying, but just was looking for feedback from other moms walking with the Lord. So thank you!

Rebekah - posted on 07/14/2009

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I believe vaccines are safe, but with anything in the medical profession should always do your research on them. My choice was to delay all shots for 6 months because of the blood brain barrier and I will not give my baby live vaccines until right before they enter school - not because of so-called autism risks but because the blood brain barrier is not completely developed by age 2. My other choice is that I didn't want my son getting his shots all at once, they will give almost 4-6 shots at one time, I chose to do one shot at a time to make sure there were no reactions, after that then I did 2 at a time as long as it wasn't a new shot. If your child reacts and they received 4-6 shots in one visit, the doctor does not truly know which one your child reacted to, since most of the reactions are all the same with the vaccines. My son will have all shots, I think it's necessary or all these diseases that we never really had a problem with will come back and they will come back stronger because they will have developed an immunity to the vaccines. There are allergic reactions, ask your doctor about these. And as with all vaccines your baby may run a fever, be a little fussy, more tired than normal... but I noticed after round 2 vaccines my son didn't get as fussy or as tired.

I truly believe that if you pray over your child everything will be fine.

Marta - posted on 07/13/2009

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As with anything that is administered by the medical community there are possible risks and side effects such as allergic reactions, slight fever, tenderness and irritation at the injection site. Some allergic reactions have been so severe that they can cause permanent damage and/or death but, if your child is generally healthy and there is no family history of severe allergies then your child should take well to the vaccines. All of my children are vaccinated and therefore won't be at risk for things like chicken pox (which can cause deafness/vision impairment and death) or Mumps, measels, rubella etc. I feel that it's something important to do for my children since it's my job to keep them as safe as I can. I also prayed about it and really felt that the Lord condoned it for my children and so I knew, in my heart, that my children would be safe. Just seek God on the matter if you're not entirely sure. By the looks of it ur little one is about 4-6 mos and should already have had his first batch of shots by now if this is the path you're going to take. God Bless You.

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