Who makes ethical products?

Sandy84 - posted on 05/21/2013 ( 15 moms have responded )

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I just bought a couple of new clothes for my son on this website: https://www.kinderstuff.us/. On their website it doesn't say anything with regard to what faith group they support or if they support anything. I think I'm good, but I always worry to buy something and find out later that the company supports a cause I'm not okay with. Does anybody else have the same issue?

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Alisha - posted on 06/08/2013

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It seems nearly impossible to buy something that isn't supporting something contrary to the Bible, if that's what you're going for. Check around on pro life websites they sometimes have lists to avoid. They do a lot of research for you!

Victoria - posted on 05/27/2013

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In this day & age it is so very hard to find any company that is completely ethical. They may use ethical practices in themselves, but where do they get there products from, do they have complete disclosure from their suppliers.

I recently worked for a company that sells essential oils & natural cosmetics making products & we had signed leaping bunny, peta as well as fair trade agreements & organic certifications however when it comes down to it we couldn't prove that our suppliers were completely ethical, they don't always disclose all the details of their practices & smaller companies will have a harder time getting the information.

Also when it comes to organics, something can be made with organic products & still not be considered organic because of certification costs & then something can use minimal organic content & yet be certified organic because it was made by a company that can afford the certification.

My best recommendation is always try & buy local, whatever the product is. If something seems too good to be true & their claims seem far fetch, they probably are, research the company you are purchasing from.
Quality products manufactured with ethics tend to cost more, but in the long run may be worth it for sustainability as well as to help the little guy bear up under the big corporation.

Just my thoughts. :)

Carla - posted on 05/25/2013

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I, too, boycott certain businesses that I know for a certainty don't hold the principles I do. This is called freedom of choice. I also didn't patronize certain businesses who target their rival business and put down their products. This, too, is freedom of choice. I know God will bless me for my choices, as I honor Him.

I still can't get over $20 for a child's t-shirt and $23 for a onesie ;)

God bless!

Angela - posted on 05/23/2013

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OK, I've read Carla's response and I've re-read your opening post.

Carla investigated the website you bought from & found that the supplier was "eco-oriented" - but I'm wondering how you didn't spot this yourself if you bought direct from the website?

I wonder if you simply meant the religious values of the manufacturer/distributor when you talked about "ethics"?

As I said in my own post, religion can be quite devisive! When you're running a business, no matter how dedicated your are to your own religion, regardless of how devout you may be, you want to attract the custom and goodwill of all your potential customer market! Including that of people who may be of a different religion!

Consider this, as a Christian, do you want to be boycotted by people who aren't Christians because you advertised your faith along with your products/services when you run a business? Of course you don't! Their money is as good as anyone else's.

I'm happy to spend anywhere I get quality and value. I will support any Christian business which supports my needs at a price I like. I'll also buy from people who are Jewish, Muslims, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, Zoroastians, Humanists - you name it! If I like the product/service, the price is good, the quality is decent and the people I deal with are helpful, that's good enough for me!

If the company selling demonstrate poor ethics, dishonest business practices or heavily inflated prices, I don't care if they're the most devout Christians on this planet, I'll not spend a penny of my hard-earned cash with them!

Hope that answers your question!

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Sandy84 - posted on 06/04/2013

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It's good to hear that not only I struggle, but you guys have/had the same problems. It shows me that although things are hardly ever perfect we all have a shot at finding peace one day. No matter if in terms of religion or otherwise.

I will try to keep on fighting for a good cause. Thanks so much for all your comments.

Carla - posted on 06/02/2013

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Sandy, I am old enough to be most of you guys mother or even grandmother. We screwed our lives up royally until age 50. So, no, we didn't always see clearly. I thank God, however, that He allowed us to go through the horrible times (and they WERE horrible) because now we DO understand and have clarity. I wish I had the time and space to tell you what God has brought us through, and what I USED to be. Suffice it to say God has grabbed ahold, turned my life upside down, and placed me on the path and said 'now walk!'. It was my heart that had to be changed, from looking to things/people/emotions/situations to make me happy to looking for what God wanted me to do. Our path is still rough. We have a child we haven't seen since 2000, my health is not good--we still struggle! Yet, I know God is holding us up, and as long as we are keeping our eyes on Jesus, He ALWAYS, ALWAYS brings us through.

As for the giving, Ecclesiastes 11:1 and 2 say: 'Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days. Give a portion to seven, and also to eight: for thou knowest not what evil shall be upon the earth.' This, to me, means 'don't put all your eggs in one basket'. God is a GREAT God. He takes what we give and blesses it to reach souls. My little pittance may not look like much to the fleshly eye, but it can buy several Bibles a month, can help feed the children and homeless at the rescue mission, support a missionary so they can buy the materials they need to spread the Gospel. And as long as I am approaching giving with the knowledge that as long as God has told me to give, and I obey, HE multiplies it to fill the need. It's like the little boy who offered his sack lunch to Jesus. He had a couple pieces of bread and a fish. Can you imagine what the disciples were thinking when the little boy came up to them and give it to them? 'What does he want me to do with THIS? This won't but feed him!' Jesus saw it differently, and fed the multitudes. Now could Jesus have fed them WITHOUT the little boy's lunch? Of course. But the little boy's faith in giving his lunch, shows us that much can be accomplished with just a little.

So start stretching your faith. Can you only give $5 a month at the start? Most of us can. When you see God supplying, it grows your faith to give a little more. And each time you up your giving, as a sacrifice to Jesus, He multiplies it for the work, and multiplies what you have left. I LOVE how He works!

God bless, babe. James said 'Do you lack wisdom? Ask for it!' How incredibly simple! Ask for wisdom to conduct your life to be an honor to the Lord, and He will increase wisdom to you.

Victoria - posted on 06/01/2013

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I agree with Carla, we always give to God what belongs to God that is the tithe (10%). After that we look to his leading for the offering we should give.
In the most part tithe & offering should really be given to your home church, the place that God uses to feed you spiritually on a regular basis. Additional gifts, planted elsewhere are wonderful seeds also, that God will use to bless the receiver as well as the giver.

As the scripture says we should always be cheerful givers.

Sandy84 - posted on 05/31/2013

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Interesting! I would love to see more people behave that way...

Do you ever get discouraged or do you always see things that clearly? I feel like you have a good idea of what things should be like...

Carla - posted on 05/31/2013

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We pay our 10%, then prayed for the Lord to let us know what else He wanted us to do. We now give to the city rescue mission, they do an AMAZING job on next to nothing. We also give to the Messianic Jews evangelism, as I feel very strongly about this. I also stop, when prompted by the Holy Ghost, and give to those standing by the side of the road begging. I don't give to them ALL, just the ones the Lord prompts.

Giving, to me, is a very personal thing. We give, to show our love and gratitude to the Lord for keeping us. He takes it, blesses it, and uses it to spread HIS love. It's a beautiful circle of devotion. But you have to manage your giving as the Lord dictates to you. Pray, and He'll show you.

God bless, hon

Sandy84 - posted on 05/30/2013

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Yep. I definitely think one should give to charity, etc. However, by making responsible decisions when it comes to shopping for our families I don't necessarily think that money should always play this omnipresent role. Sometimes paying a little more means doing good, you know! Provided that people are in a fortunate position where they can care about such things!

How do you decide how much you give to church, charity, etc.?

Carla - posted on 05/28/2013

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IF you can afford to buy the more expense clothes, and if you are not convicted of wasting the money, go for it. I couldn't afford to buy a lot of stuff for my children when they were young, and we bought from yard sales or Goodwill almost exclusively. Once we could afford more, I went a little (or a lot) nuts, and bought stuff we didn't need, just because I could. The Lord started speaking to my heart about 'how much are you giving to missions, church, charities, versus how much you are spending to make yourself look good'. I got the message. Today we are very frugal, and can give much more to the Work of God. Just because we can afford it doesn't necessarily mean we NEED it. Paul said 'with food and raiment, be content'. Just my thoughts.

God bless

Sandy84 - posted on 05/27/2013

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Guys, thanks so much for your support!

I was not only talking about relgion, but more ethics in general. I try really hard to only buy from businesses that at least do some good for society.

I agree that the clothes I bought are pretty pricy. I feel like most of the time though you have to pay a little more in order to ensure that products are manufactured in an ethical manner. What do you think?

Marilyn - posted on 05/25/2013

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Sandy, I love what Angela said. Here are my thoughts also:

"Ethical" does not mean the same thing as "religious." To be ethical means to be honest & upright, not cheating customers or suppliers, giving fair prices and fair wages. Being religious means having a deity or deities one worships and heeds.

Many religious people run ethical businesses. So do many non-religious people. People from both groups also run very unethical businesses. A person's faith alone will not tell you whether or not he or she is an ethical business person.

I think the question you're trying to ask here is: Do any companies I purchase products from support groups I don't want my money going to?

The answer is, probably. I try to avoid certain companies who support organizations I don't care for. That's my choice as a consumer. I also buy from some other stores that I don't necessarily agree with, just because I'm broke and can't always afford not to. There is an easy way, however, to find the answer you're looking for: Just ask the company! Call or write and request a list of the organizations they sponsor. If the company has nothing to hide, they shouldn't have a problem giving you such a list. If they refuse, you might want to consider going elsewhere.

Best of luck to you!

Carla - posted on 05/22/2013

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Okay, Sandy, I went and looked at the website. They seem to be very eco-oriented. I don't know if you have a passion for organic things, but their prices seem very high. IF you can afford $20 for a onesie, then great. If you are not passionately eco-oriented, maybe that isn't the website for you.

These are just my opinions.

God bless

Angela - posted on 05/21/2013

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Sandy84 - if you had a business marketing products would you state your religion? I would be more concerned with offering quality and value. Stating your religion will generally lose you more customers than it gains. Why do I need to know the faith system of any business proprietor? Do you ask every time you visit a store or retail outlet?

Now ethical products and ethical business practices are of more interest to the consumer who may or may not be of the same religious beliefs as yourself. We would generally ALL be impressed with a business whose ethical portfolio was highlighted and conscience-driven.

Ethical issues that would attract customers would be cruelty-free products, production methods that didn't exploit a workforce - particularly in a country with a subsistence economy, no violation of the earth's scarcer resources, no illegal practices or flouting of Health & Safety - the list goes on. Most companies that embrace one or more of the ideas on this list DO say so.

If they say nothing, then maybe they have nothing to brag about.

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