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Angela - posted on 07/18/2011

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Great posts there from Uname Name and Victoria Vance.

I want to add this, I admit there are a few sections of scripture where the act of "men lying with men" is said to be detestable etc ... but NEVER is there anything about women lying with women! So what about lesbians? Did gay women not exist in Old Testament times? Or is it OK for ladies to be gay (but not men)?

It has been said by many Christians that it's not a sin to BE a homosexual, only to carry out homosexual ACTS - i.e. be sexually active with a person of the same gender. Firstly, I feel that for any person, heterosexual or homosexual, to form a loving relationship with a life partner, share a home and plan a future together, to all intents and purposes is positive? Remember that a significant minority of heterosexual couples do NOT have sex as part of their relationship (including some legally married, Christian couples). This could be for medical reasons, through choice, etc ... It's a private matter and they don't generally advertise this fact. Similarly, there must be many homosexual couples who also don't have sex in their relationship. So, since we don't know exactly which couples have a sex life and which couples don't, how can we judge any gay couple for the sin of homosexual sex? We don't know!!!

Also the use of words like "lifestyle" and "choice" are quite inflammatory to the gay community and others. People find they are gay, they don't choose this. If they had a choice, life would be so much easier to choose heterosexuality. Aside from the disapproval and judgement of various religious groups (Christians are by no means the only ones) they face real hatred and prejudice from some sections of society.

I'm not gay, none of my family is gay and I'm happily married to a wonderful Christian man. I could say "I'm happy, I don't have this dilemma, it's not my problem ...." That would be moral abdication - like saying "I'm alright Jack, I'm 'straight', so I'll get on with my own life and this is one 'sin' that the Lord isn't going to lay at my door ...." That's why I've spoken out for gay people in a few of these Christian discussion threads.

My intention was to speak out in the way I have. I hope I have not offended anyone - gay OR straight - by giving my opinion.

I pray for harmony and for understanding towards all minority groups that are targeted by mainstream groups.

Jill - posted on 03/16/2010

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being Gay is wrong according to biblical standards but we as Christians are to love them anyway and not judge them.. walk in love is the essence of the bible.... show them love and let God do the condemning or changing of their hearts....

Diane - posted on 03/29/2010

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Jen, this issue does not have anything to do with hating someone, it deals with love. Sin is sin and God spells out exactly what it is in the Bible. He says ALL SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE is sin. That includes premarital sex between heterosexuals as well.
If you love someone you do not want them hurt and lets fave it sin splashes, it destroys people and lives. It is disobedience towards God. We have every right as Christians to judge actions with righteous judgement. How else do we protect ourselves from the enemy? We can not judge another persons heart however that God will do.
Like Jane said.........we should NOT accept sin.
Eliese you said, "But nowhere in his words do I find anything about condemning homosexuality."
He did not talk about child abuse either but should we accept that? There are enough verses in the scriptures both Old and New where He does talk about what marriage is, and how sex should take place. Could you site just once where He talked about two same sex people who got married? Could you explain why when He talked about marriage it was ONLY between ONE woman and ONE man?
We should not change scripture to fit our culture because our culture is sick and sinful. It’s not about our standards but rather Gods standards of right and wrong.
You talk about the Law in the OT and about laws the Jews tried to follow.
The Old Covenant is to the New Covenant what promise is to fulfillment. How did,does, and shall Jesus Christ fulfill the promises of the Old Covenant? We should honor the Old Testament as the Word of God, just as Jesus did. Jesus was a Jew and He honored the law. But His mission was to change from Old Covenant to New Covenant from the laws of Moses to the law of Christ. Christ said I HAVE COME. He is the one who fulfilled the Old Testament by his sinless life. He is the one to fulfill its prophecies about his first coming. He fulfilled it by his death and resurrection. He fulfilled it by the establishment of his worldwide church. And he will fulfill it at his Second Coming.
God Bless

Christa - posted on 03/15/2010

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Do NOT go over there. They eat Christians alive, they are not tolerant to the Christian way of thinking. She's just trying to bait you over there so she and her liberal friends can call you every hateful thing in the book, just because you believe in the Bible.

Angela - posted on 10/04/2013

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Well said Carla – and also well said Dylan!

Here’s something that’s going around FaceBook. A Grandfather sent a letter to his daughter because she disowned her gay son.

Just LOVE it!

http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/03/fckh8-gran...

‘Dear Christine

I’m disappointed in you as a daughter. You’re correct that we have a “shame in the family”, but mistaken about what it is.

Kicking Chad out of your home simply because he told you he was gay is the real “abomination” here. A parent disowning her child is what goes “against nature”.

The only intelligent thing I heard you saying in all this was that “you didn’t raise your son to be gay”. Of course you didn’t. He was born this way and didn’t chase it any more than he being left-handed.

You however, have made a choice of being hurtful, narrow-minded and backward. So, while we are in the business of disowning our children, I think I’ll take this moment to say goodbye to you. I now have a fabulous (as the gays put it) grandson to raise, and I don’t have time for heart-less B-word of a daughter.

If you find your heart, give us a call

- Dad’

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Sarah - posted on 09/13/2016

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This post is very old, how about we let it drop. If you want to start a new dialog, then open a new thread.

Angela - posted on 02/04/2015

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When you're all "brave" enough to publicly reprimand thieves, wifebeaters, liars, fraudsters, people who take up with other people's spouses, those who cheat the tax system and even those who allow their dogs to foul on the sidewalk, then you might think about maligning and criticising gay people.

Just shift the log out of your own eye so you can see properly to take the speck out of ANYone else's eye.

Karen - posted on 01/26/2015

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I have both gay and straight friends. I look at each person individually. My belief is that God will be judging everyone for one reason or another when it is time. It is not my place to judge on something that I do not and cannot ever know enough about to judge someone on something so personal. No one can! You don't have to like that person, like their lifestyle, or anything else, but please don't judge a person on whether they are gay or straight. You might just be missing out getting to know a lot of really great people! And who knows... God may judge you differently just because you judged others.

Angela - posted on 01/26/2015

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Krista - were you born "straight" or did you choose to be straight? You KNOW you didn't choose to be straight, you just found that you were. So how is it different for gay people?

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 01/23/2015

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Claire, it is not wrong to support others who believe differently.

It IS WRONG to judge others for their lifestyles, religion, clothes, etc.

At true Christian will follow the teaching "Judge not".

Claire - posted on 01/21/2015

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this literally is bringing me to tears. Do you think christians want to support gay people? i certainly do! to support gay with open arms like all my friends. But its plain wrong, and all the things i've read on the internet trying to make it right for christians are all stupid, and pointless. I want to support gay people so much, but its just so wrong.

Notamom - posted on 08/13/2014

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I SINCERELY HATE YOU PEOPLE!!!
YOU ARE THE HE REASON IM SO FUCKED UP!
IF YOU TRULY ARE MOTHERS YOU SHOULD DO YOUR CHILDREN A FAVOR AND STAB YOURSELVES IN THE FACE WITH A KNIFE IN FRONT OF THEM!
THEY WILL THANK YOU FOR SETTING THEM FREE FROM YOUR RELIGION OF HATE!!!!!!!!!
ALSO P.S. JESUS ISNT REAL! GET OVER IT!

Jacob - posted on 07/25/2014

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I would love to see you hung by a lamppost but I would never put you their because my morals and heart tell me not too but my heart and morals don't tell me I don't love my boyfriend.

Desiree - posted on 06/25/2014

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He does. He made everyone in his image. He also gave everyone free will what people choose to do is their choice. God is love and loves everyone that is why he sent his son to die on the cross for us.

♫ Shawnn ♪♫♫ - posted on 06/13/2014

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My God has told me that it's not MY job to judge, but HIS. Therefore, I don't have a problem with homosexuality, nor anything else, because I'm not here to judge anyone!

As a Christian, my job is to LOVE my neighbor.

Heard the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner"??? Because that, folks, is what Jesus wants you to do. He does not want you to vilefy anyone, He does not want you to pass judgement of your own on anyone (maybe because there's plenty that could be judged about you, too), and He has told us that judgement rests only with God.

So...if you're judging, promoting hateful speech, and all in all showing hatred towards others, you're not exhibiting a very good Christian attitude, in my opinion!

Blessings to all!

Holly - posted on 06/13/2014

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dear waka how about you learn a thing or two i would like to say first off that your an obtuse fuck who lives in the 1800 where we hung people for differences second off your are comparing sleeping with the same sex as sleeping with your brother or sister this makes no sense where did incest come out of homosexuality being "wrong" if that is what god says i rather burn in hell and shake hands with the devil, i honestly think YOU and people like you should hang from lampposts, we where all taught the "good" lord loves all i just think you are a poor uneducated child. and you also mentioned murder homosexuality is not killing any one! if your so bothered by it maybe you should learn a thing or two and make some god damned decent points and while your at please feel free to think! oh and what if your child was gay?! would you beat them you disarmingly sick fuck!

Grace - posted on 05/21/2014

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Ha, imagine all the satanists who veiw this and think it's utter garbage? Why is being gay any more wrong then being straight? Why would this be wrong? We don't affect your lives. There's no reason to hate us. Have you seen gays hate straight people because it's against something we believe? You people started the attacks and if you say being gay will cause you to burn in the hell you believe in maybe you would go there instead for not accepted other humans for what they are. Isn't it God and Jesus's thing to be all kind loving and accepting?

Carla - posted on 05/15/2014

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Waka--we ALL deserve the death penalty until Jesus came into our lives. When we accepted Him and asked forgiveness, He gave us a new heart, and told us to convert our old ways. But Jesus came to save that which was lost through His great love. We are to show the love of Jesus to everyone--and God takes care of the rest. God knew the world would get this bad--His prophets prophesied it thousands of years ago. We didn't ALLOW it to happen. In Revelation 21:8 says: 'But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.' Those that fear, those that don't believe God's Power and ALL liars are lumped in the same category as murderers and the abominable. Followers of Jesus need to READ their Bibles and work on themselves--that is a full time job. As we grow in our walk, we can influence others.

God bless

Waka - posted on 05/13/2014

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gay marriage is wrong. being gay is wrong. men sleeping with men is wrong, women sleeping with women is wrong.

even if the whole world finds it acceptable and makes it legal and shows it on TV all DAY LONG, it is still WRONG.

If people wanted the right to sleep with their siblings, it would still be wrong even if it became legal.

If people wanted the right to shoot other people whenever they wanted, that would be WRONG even if it became legal.

Why wrong? Because God does not like that.

And the good Lord don't love ugly.

Now if someone has gay sex that means they are doing a sin. If someone murders people that is also a sin. At least admit that it is wrong.

We all deserve to be punished by God because we let the homosexuals come together and kiss and frolick on our televisions, when in reality they should all be hoisted by their necks in the streets, from lampposts.

Carla - posted on 05/05/2014

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First of all, Matthew, everyone was born with the ability for faith. You have faith in science, I have it in God. Paul said the Scriptures were written by holy men of God under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I believe the world IS 6-8,000 years old, I believe God created everything in Heaven and on Earth. You have a right to your opinion, just as I have a right to mine. This is called free will.

Second, the women who come to this forum ARE Christians, or are seeking to BE a Christian, and Christians most certainly can judge each other, and are supposed to (type I Corinthians 5:12 and 13 into your browser). We are NOT to judge the unbelievers, THAT'S God's job! God set certain laws in place to help believers live a life of blessings for them. When we don't do things God's way, we can't benefit from the blessings. Pure and simple. And THAT'S why we counsel the young ones coming up to read God's Word and find out what it is we should be doing. It is for OUR own good He has shown us how to live.

Abba, I pray for Matthew and ask that You show Yourself real to him. Faith in science CAN'T love us like You do. I ask that You give him a glimpse of what joy there is in serving You. I pray he understand what we are trying to tell him, and that he be able to respond back to this post one day and tell us he has given his life over to You--so he, too, can have the joy and peace we do. In Jesus' Name, amen.

God bless, Matthew

Matthew - posted on 05/04/2014

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you do realize that the bible was written hundreds of years after the time of jesus? brought together and put together by corrupt men so the bible is not the word of god but instead the word of man thinking of god. the bible is not the be all end all book it is a bunch of stories that have morals to be taken into account. for instance the world is not 6000 years old but billions dinosaurs did not roam with man and we are not the only living thinking species in the universe to think so is to be ignorant of everything we have ever known. and no i am not a mom or a woman but my blood boils when someone thinks they are holier then thou we all sin so why are you thinking that you have a right to judge?

Dadmightaswellbeamom - posted on 04/07/2014

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I believe that it is wrong. Not because i was raised to believe that or because by no means im narrow minded. But in my heart i feel it. I look at my conscience of knowing wrong and right like little whispers from god. Im tired of people always trying to justify what they do as right so that they feel they feel that they are within some moral boundries..I do not hate gays, in fact i have work friends who are. They know my belief and accept it. I dont condem them or 'preach' to them. But when people begin to twist the bible or try to find loopholes by taking an alternative look on it...thats when i have a problem. We all 'sin'..accept it, and dont justify it. Many say they cant help it...but who else says the same? Rapist, drug addicts, alcholics, porn addicts, cutters, litter bugs ect.. Where do we draw the limit of whats right and wrong? I guess it depends on where and when you live. I feel it to be wrong. But dont condemn me, cause i dont condemn you. Search your heart. Dont lie to yourself. Dont find loopholes. If you do these things youll find the truth easier to find...though im sure we'd all still have different answers lol. Love dont hate. Form your own opinion and dont be like everyone else in 2014, everything has to be some popular culture social liberal acceptance lol

Holly - posted on 03/21/2014

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Some people don't believe in god. Besides people wrote the bible and may have or may not have been guided by god but the bible is from long ago and times are changing. Besides you act as if being homosexual is a choice when it is intact not a choice at all.besides if god loves you he wouldn't throw you in hell for such a tiny reason, if that is the god I have known all my life I would be glad to go to hell then live with such a god.

Holly - posted on 03/21/2014

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Intercourse is so much more then sex. Or pleasure as you put it I think you are being hypocritical on this. Plenty of hetrosexual couples have used birth prevention and I see no difference here. Besides their are plenty of parent less children that need adoption, whether a homosexual couple adopts them or a
hetrosexual couple them I see love as love

Holly - posted on 03/21/2014

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You say society says it, we'll it was society that wrote the bible in the first place. Not every one believes in god, besides Jesus whould teach us acceptance. I don't think homosexuals are running toward their doom. Being gay isn't really a choice either.

Carla - posted on 03/21/2014

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We are talking about what society views is wrong vs what is a sin, Holly, and they are two separate things. Society said it was wrong for a black and a white to marry--it does NOT say that in the Bible. What IS said in the Bible is this: I Corinthians 6:9-11: 'Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the Kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.'

People can 'believe' what they want--it doesn't change the Truth. I do NOT hate gays or lesbians. But if I saw someone running towards a cliff, how could I say I love people if I didn't yell 'Stop! You're going to hurt yourself!' Same here. We look at the list above and see drunkards, of which I was one, we see adulterers, of which I was one, covetous, of which I was one will NOT inherit the Kingdom of God. God changed me, so I warn in love because I want all to experience the relationship with God.

I have a gay sister-in-law and niece. I love them to pieces. I don't preach, I don't treat them any differently than I ever did. And I hope that they will come to the Truth. But, it IS their decision.

God bless.

Holly - posted on 03/21/2014

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What would Jesus do? Should he shun these so called "sinners" or should he love them in his embrace? I am not a mom or really an adult I believe
homsexuality is not a sin. You act as if homosexuality is a choice. A bad choice is defined as a sin, I know this will not change many peoples views but think about it. Should the homosexuals act hetrosexual? And fake everything they are? I'd rather you hate me for everything I am then have you love me for something I am not. Being homosexual is not a choice it is a way of being.
Every one is different and I believe we should respect that. In the 1800 s it was viewed as morally wrong for a black man and woman to marry. Now it is morraly wrong for a man and man to marry or a women and women to marry. Many people don't support gay marriage because the marriage is sterile so what? Their are plenty of parent less kids that need parents wheater it be two men or two women, or a man and women love should not be judged!

Melody - posted on 02/05/2014

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Angela: There IS mention of lesbian women in the bible, along with the homosexuals. Read Romans 1. Special attention to Verse 26.

"24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Angela - posted on 01/23/2014

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QUOTE: (from Jane)
"I totally agree that intercourse between two same genders is wrong simply and only because they cannot anatomically reproduce.I think intercourse should be all about reproduction meaning it should NOT be for pleasure. I expect many of you would disagree by saying intercourse brings us emotionally closer and why then did God allow it to 'feel' good. I don't doubt this but intercourse between two same genders 'feels' good and brings them emotionally closer and yet this is condemned. Reproduction to me seems the only justifiable reason."

Thank you Jane. My husband and I were 50/51 when we married. So our marriage is invalid, we're worthless as a couple because by the time we met I was too old to reproduce. In fact our marriage is a waste of time.

And, going by your summary on the justification of sex between a couple, marriage for younger couples who have medical problems and are unable to reproduce - well that's invalid and a waste of time too?

Nice work. You've not only trashed gay couples but also straight couples with your analysis.

Oh - and just for your information, sex is about so much more than "intercourse".

Carla - posted on 01/19/2014

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, Jane, and if this is TRULY yours, and your husband is agreeable, life is good. I happen to believe all that God has written (Read Song of Solomon) about reveling in your spouse's body and to be enraptured by them. That to me doesn't sound like sex for reproduction. We need to be reading our Bibles ALL THE WAY through to make sure we are on the same page as God. You're really missing something.

God bless.

Jane - posted on 01/18/2014

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I totally agree that intercourse between two same genders is wrong simply and only because they cannot anatomically reproduce.I think intercourse should be all about reproduction meaning it should NOT be for pleasure. I expect many of you would disagree by saying intercourse brings us emotionally closer and why then did God allow it to 'feel' good. I don't doubt this but intercourse between two same genders 'feels' good and brings them emotionally closer and yet this is condemned. Reproduction to me seems the only justifiable reason.

Carla - posted on 01/09/2014

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Chillin--May I apologize in behalf of the entire female race for your sister. She obviously needed to put you down to make herself look better.

People's words cause so much damage, yet they don't try to at least THINK before they blurt out stupidness. I, too, was very sickly, skinny, short etc. I was called Can Opener Teeth because my eye teeth protruded. I slunk through life trying to be invisible. As a sophomore I was 4'10" on a good day, weighed 70 pounds. Back in the 60s we had to wear dresses/skirts. The other girls could wear skirts and sweaters, white bucks (looked like tennis shoes except they were made of suede). They didn't make small sizes like they do now, so I wore little girl dresses that tied in the back and black patent leather shoes. The boys would walk past me in the hall and say 'flat' and laugh. When a guy stopped to talk to me after roller skating, I couldn't believe it! I had just turned 15--we 'dated' and I ended up pregnant. My visions were a vine-covered cottage, 2. kids and a station wagon with the dog stickin' his head out the back of the vehicle. THAT didn't happen. After our first was born, I had a little more figure, and my husband set about 'remaking' me. Short, short skirts, white go-go boots and tight sweaters. Being children of the 60s, we drank and smoked pot. Everything that was against my upbringing, but I was finding guys were starting to be attracted to me. Second pregnancy comes along, and my dear husband decided this was the perfect time to come clean about an affair he had when we had been married 2 months. I lost it. I didn't say anything at that moment, but I tucked it in back for further use. After our son was born, I put my plan in motion. I seduced and slept with every man I came across. He then switched tactics, and told me I was ugly, stupid and I should get on my knees and thank God he married me cuz no one else would. My actions were to prove to him I WAS attractive and other men WOULD like me--but it didn't prove to ME that I was worth anything. At 21, I was an alcoholic.

I understand the damage words from our loved ones do, and I wish I could convey to you that you ARE loved, and that you ARE not what you've been told. I am still struggling with this, and I am 63. I just pray you can find a peace and acceptance of what is in our past is just that, in our past. I would be remiss if I didn't tell you that there was NO help for me other than at giving my life to Jesus. In just the last 12 years I have had an awakening, and have given my life over, mind, body and soul. I still have issues, I am still a work in progress, but I'm better.

If you would like to talk, you can message me. God bless

Dylan - posted on 01/09/2014

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dear sir or vagina:

i'm not confused about being gay. i've cruised many rest-stops, everywhere from laurel, maryland, to the jersey shore. i've had much practice, i've been masturbating to images of big and strong, manly and hairy-chested men ever since i was 8 or 9...maybe 10. i don't like to hear people saying, "he's just confused," when i speak of what i am about to speak of.

why am i gay, why i am gay

all throughout my youth, my sister (now the pro-gay founder of an environmental group called "one piece at a time" that is near long beach, california) would always call me a "grit" (a mixture between a girl and an "it") because she would not (could not) regard me as a real boy. this is probably the earliest memory i have which relates to the reasons why i never felt like a legitimate man. the reasons why real men hold a special place in my heart. oh, just fyi, her website (http://onepieceatatime.net) is not related to mine (http://onepieceatatime.us).

all throughout my youth, at least since i was 8 or 9 (and feeling quite insufficient around sportsmen like benny donaruma and keith shoudt), i had no athletic abilities or interests. i was skinny and weak, even taylor robinson called me a "skinny little queer" during greg beirly's (greg bierly?) science class in 7th or 8th grade. furthermore, i was not friends with the athletes and i regarded them as "untouchable". i couldn't believe benny donaruma came to my birthday party in the 8th grade - i can't believe i asked him. i know that i did not feel that i had the right to ask him. i can't believe i asked mike natiello (natielo?) - he was also one i regarded as "untouchable". i can't beleive he came to my house.

all throughout my youth, i had no legitimate sense of masculine self-esteem or masculine self-worth. i would never take my shirt off to go swimming, this was because i was too skinny to want to be seen without a shirt. i grew up lacking masculine self-esteem, i would never feel "man enough" in anything i did, i needed the feeling of masculine completion that my lackluster existence (my semi-charmed kind of masculine existence) didn't give to me.

i'm not gay for no reason, and to suggest such a thing is an insult to the developmental injury of my past. i'm not attracted to men because i grew up feeling like i was "just one of the guys," i am attracted to men because i grew up looking at men with a curiosity of the taboo - and with the self-understanding of an underdeveloped little boy.

hairy armpits were taboo. i had grown up to revere abundantly hairy armpits - i saw them every day in the locker room, everywhere but on me. they were on benny as early as 3rd or 4th grade, and keith made me aware of his when we were in the 7th or 8th grade (and when he stuck his hairy armpit in front of my face - i came to regard it as an "i'm better than you" taunt).

i wasn't born gay, i wasn't born with any knowledge of gender or of anything at all, nobody's gender-identity exists before they can form opinions of (or form a lack of an ability to identify with) one specific gender. though i cannot remember feeling jealous of (not up-to-par with) sportsmen like jeb blazevich, tim tebow, josh lane, matthew muchnok at any time before my family moved to alexandria township (new jersey), i do remember living in whippany (new jersey) and running across the kitchen saying "SEANNNN" to sean fineran (my friend who lived across the street). as i was hugging him, he recited a honda commercial which was popular at the time "help me, honda, help help me honda".

as i've said, i'm not aware of a jealousy regarding sportsmen being in my life when i lived in whippany, i am not aware of any feelings regarding gender which were felt before i moved to bloomsbury. i could play "devil's advocate" and say that i hugged sean fineran before a spite for sportsmen was apparent in my life, which would suggest that i had praised masculinity before i formed any opinions about masculinity, but i hardly can remember anything at all about my time in whippany. i don't remember being in school, though i know that i was friends with the athletes named d.j. eagen and tom pennell, and i know that i did not fear them as i feared benny donaruma and keith shoudt. therefore, my being at-ease with d.j. and tom - even around the time when i hugged sean fineran - tells me that i cannot be sure that a lack of masculine gender-identity existed before i moved to bloomsbury.

nobody is going to be attracted to men if they've got an unbreakable sense of masculine gender-identity. "opposites attract" has to do with one's gender-identity, not one's actual state of gender. this is why i use quotation-marks when referring to gay "men". as for the gay "man" saying to the straight man "i'm more man than you'll ever be," well, the cross-eyed curiosity of the masculine gender that is felt by the gay "man" makes me hear nanny fine's ridiculous nasal-laugh after i hear ANY gay "man" assert the presence of masculine gender-identity in his life.

i'm just writing to vent my frustration regarding gay "men" (men in name only) and gay "christians" (christians in name only), as well as society's tolerance of homosexuality and homosexuals' attitudes (pride and lust are two of the seven deadly sins, yet some gays have the nerve to take themselves seriously as christians? can you hear the nanny fine?)

a-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

dylan terreri, i
godhatespride.com
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Dylan - posted on 01/09/2014

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dear sir or vagina:

i'm not confused about being gay. i've cruised many rest-stops, everywhere from laurel, maryland, to the jersey shore. i've had much practice, i've been masturbating to images of big and strong, manly and hairy-chested men ever since i was 8 or 9...maybe 10. i don't like to hear people saying, "he's just confused," when i speak of what i am about to speak of.

why am i gay, why i am gay

all throughout my youth, my sister (now the pro-gay founder of an environmental group called "one piece at a time" that is near long beach, california) would always call me a "grit" (a mixture between a girl and an "it") because she would not (could not) regard me as a real boy. this is probably the earliest memory i have which relates to the reasons why i never felt like a legitimate man. the reasons why real men hold a special place in my heart. oh, just fyi, her website (http://onepieceatatime.net) is not related to mine (http://onepieceatatime.us).

all throughout my youth, at least since i was 8 or 9 (and feeling quite insufficient around sportsmen like benny donaruma and keith shoudt), i had no athletic abilities or interests. i was skinny and weak, even taylor robinson called me a "skinny little queer" during greg beirly's (greg bierly?) science class in 7th or 8th grade. furthermore, i was not friends with the athletes and i regarded them as "untouchable". i couldn't believe benny donaruma came to my birthday party in the 8th grade - i can't believe i asked him. i know that i did not feel that i had the right to ask him. i can't believe i asked mike natiello (natielo?) - he was also one i regarded as "untouchable". i can't beleive he came to my house.

all throughout my youth, i had no legitimate sense of masculine self-esteem or masculine self-worth. i would never take my shirt off to go swimming, this was because i was too skinny to want to be seen without a shirt. i grew up lacking masculine self-esteem, i would never feel "man enough" in anything i did, i needed the feeling of masculine completion that my lackluster existence (my semi-charmed kind of masculine existence) didn't give to me.

i'm not gay for no reason, and to suggest such a thing is an insult to the developmental injury of my past. i'm not attracted to men because i grew up feeling like i was "just one of the guys," i am attracted to men because i grew up looking at men with a curiosity of the taboo - and with the self-understanding of an underdeveloped little boy.

hairy armpits were taboo. i had grown up to revere abundantly hairy armpits - i saw them every day in the locker room, everywhere but on me. they were on benny as early as 3rd or 4th grade, and keith made me aware of his when we were in the 7th or 8th grade (and when he stuck his hairy armpit in front of my face - i came to regard it as an "i'm better than you" taunt).

i wasn't born gay, i wasn't born with any knowledge of gender or of anything at all, nobody's gender-identity exists before they can form opinions of (or form a lack of an ability to identify with) one specific gender. though i cannot remember feeling jealous of (not up-to-par with) sportsmen like jeb blazevich, tim tebow, josh lane, matthew muchnok at any time before my family moved to alexandria township (new jersey), i do remember living in whippany (new jersey) and running across the kitchen saying "SEANNNN" to sean fineran (my friend who lived across the street). as i was hugging him, he recited a honda commercial which was popular at the time "help me, honda, help help me honda".

as i've said, i'm not aware of a jealousy regarding sportsmen being in my life when i lived in whippany, i am not aware of any feelings regarding gender which were felt before i moved to bloomsbury. i could play "devil's advocate" and say that i hugged sean fineran before a spite for sportsmen was apparent in my life, which would suggest that i had praised masculinity before i formed any opinions about masculinity, but i hardly can remember anything at all about my time in whippany. i don't remember being in school, though i know that i was friends with the athletes named d.j. eagen and tom pennell, and i know that i did not fear them as i feared benny donaruma and keith shoudt. therefore, my being at-ease with d.j. and tom - even around the time when i hugged sean fineran - tells me that i cannot be sure that a lack of masculine gender-identity existed before i moved to bloomsbury.

nobody is going to be attracted to men if they've got an unbreakable sense of masculine gender-identity. "opposites attract" has to do with one's gender-identity, not one's actual state of gender. this is why i use quotation-marks when referring to gay "men". as for the gay "man" saying to the straight man "i'm more man than you'll ever be," well, the cross-eyed curiosity of the masculine gender that is felt by the gay "man" makes me hear nanny fine's ridiculous nasal-laugh after i hear ANY gay "man" assert the presence of masculine gender-identity in his life.

i'm just writing to vent my frustration regarding gay "men" (men in name only) and gay "christians" (christians in name only), as well as society's tolerance of homosexuality and homosexuals' attitudes (pride and lust are two of the seven deadly sins, yet some gays have the nerve to take themselves seriously as christians? can you hear the nanny fine?)

a-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

dylan terreri, i
godhatespride.com
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Angela - posted on 12/24/2013

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Ever heard of Alan Turing? Said to be the forefather of modern computing, he was also a gay man. He was convicted for this in 1952 and then, 2 years later he died.

The Queen's announcement of a posthumous pardon (just yesterday, Monday 23rd December, 2013), under a Royal Prerogative of Mercy, to Alan Turing follows a long campaign and a petition signed by more than 37,000 people. The pardon will be welcomed by many, and it is undoubtedly a gesture of humanity, compassion and progressive values. It is also entirely, profoundly wrong.

Turing was an intellectual legend of the 20th century. His breakthroughs in applied mathematics have led him to be described as the father of modern computing. His work on the Enigma codebreaking machine made him more responsible than almost any other British individual for the ultimate defeat of Nazi Germany. Biographers recall him as a gentle, modest, reserved man. He was also gay, and in 1952 he was convicted of gross indecency - the catch-all legal term used to prosecute any consenting sexual acts between two men. The judge at his trial, acknowledging the importance of Turing's work, laid down what seemed at the time to be a lenient sentence. The mathematician was spared jail and ordered to undergo an experimental hormone therapy for homosexual urges, often dubbed "chemical castration". We know now the treatment will not have affected his orientation or desires, but it did cause physical changes including breast enlargement and erectile dysfunction.

Turing described the experience as horrible and humiliating and less than two years later, he died of cyanide poisoning. An inquest recorded a verdict of suicide. It is a tragic, shameful episode in our recent history, but while the tragedy was Turing's, the shame was entirely the nation's.

In announcing the pardon today, the justice secretary, Chris Grayling, said: "A pardon from the Queen is a fitting tribute to an exceptional man."

The cyanide poisoning was said to be suicide - and the cyanide was ingested from an apple he ate (Turing was fascinated with the story of Snow White).

A little known fact is that the name and the logo of the Apple company is a nod towards Alan Turing and his contribution to modern computing.

Eleanora - posted on 12/22/2013

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Seriously? There is NOTHING WRONG with being gay. I am not, and have never considered myself to be, but my aunt is bisexual, my best friend in the world is gay, and another friend of mine is a lesbian! I am also a Christian and I think that what you're saying is hateful and wrong. If you are gay or a lesbian, you are not "denying" your children a mother or father. And you may not be able to have your own children, but is it a sin when a heterosexual couple can't have any children? Besides, single moms and dads raise children of the opposite gender and we don't complain that they are "denied a parent". Even if you are a gay male couple raising a daughter, she will have many other female role models in her life: a teacher, her best friend, the babysitter, a friend of the family. And to add: gay and lesbian people are no more at risk for STD's than heterosexual people are if they take the right precautions.

Shannon - posted on 11/30/2013

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Jesus said don't judge lest you be judged.
Love is love and this is the most important
Ingredient in the world today and all the yesterday's. I am a Christian, but I feel everyone is welcome at Gods Altar.
Have you ever felt outside the camp?in the bible "outside the camp" was especially bad. That's were they burned dead animals, threw garbage,and sent a scapegoat out bearing their sins to wonder until a wolf or mountain lion ate it. Jesus was murdered outside the camp because he didn't fit in. Here is the good news: Jesus made a new camp designed only for outsiders. Jesus loves all people gay, straight ,bi , or any other way people are. Jesus loves you come inside.

Megan - posted on 11/23/2013

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Wow you guys are terrible and some of the most hateful Christians I've ever seen. Its not your soul and right to judge. Nice to know if your children were gay you'd disown them and hate them.

Carla - posted on 11/05/2013

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I'm sorry, Girl with no Name, but it DOES tell us very plainly in the Bible about homosexuality.

We have to understand that God wants the best for our lives. But, He isn't there with the ultimate goal of 'making us happy'. We are told through Paul to conform ourselves into the image of God. This is a long process, but we are to start this transformation as soon as we receive Jesus into our hearts. Reading His Word is the first step, so we understand exactly WHAT He says. When we don't know for ourselves what He says, we listen to others and think they are speaking truth. This is not Truth.

There are a lot of opinions about this subject, but I take advising the younger girls very seriously. If you were running towards a cliff, wouldn't I scream 'STOP! You're going to hurt yourself!'? Yes, of course. This is even more important, because it involves your soul, which is eternal.

I pray all those who are struggling, really get to know the Lord. His love will bring you through. We ALL struggle with one thing or the other. I struggle with a LOT of stuff from my past, and I KNOW it's hard. But living your life God's way is NEVER wrong.

God bless, honey

The Girl With No - posted on 11/05/2013

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Being gay is not a thorn on your side it is part of who you are.God would not have made you with those feelings if i was a sin. He makes your whole life plan before you are born but he gives you the free will to make your own decisions. If you feel the need to be with a woman to be happy Melissa than so be it. He wants you to be happy and who you are not hiding in the shadows being afraid of "sexual desires not of God". He would want you to be happy and living your life the way you want threw him. And if that is with another woman so be it just live for him and be happy being true to you. This is coming for a 14 year old Catholic girl who is not gay but I know it is not wrong. People make accusations about the Bible but no one really knows exactly what they are saying, so he gave you those feelings for a reason Melissa so be you, all of you, live for him, and be happy.

Carla - posted on 09/16/2013

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Dylan--TRUE Christians, and I repeat for emphasis, TRUE Christians have a mandate from God to love our fellow man or woman. Those people who claim the Name of Jesus, and yet hate anyone, have taken His Name in vain. I can stand in the garage, but that doesn't make me a car. Calling yourself a Christian without the acts to back up your claim, is the same thing. Paul said in I Corinthians 5:12-13--'For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? Do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.' The Holy Spirit, speaking through Paul said, and I'm paraphrasing--You guys have enough problems taking care of the people INSIDE the church--quit worrying about the ones outside it. God will take care of them, you worry about yourselves.

The Church has forgotten this. I think it's in self-defense. They keep sinning, but don't want anyone to look at their lives, so they direct their scrutiny to the unbelievers. This makes them feel better about themselves--see how bad these people are? I'm not so bad, eh? But this is totally against what God wants us to do. God is Love. He will speak to the people who don't believe, and show them His big Love. It is our job to love the world BECAUSE of our faith.

God loves you, Dylan, just as He loves me. He hates our sin, but He loves us. He hates sin because it is harmful to our physical and spiritual bodies. He loves us enough to want the best for us. My son preached yesterday about the prodigal son, but he showed the story from the dad's viewpoint. The boy took off with half the father's worldly possessions, and went through the money quickly, and ended up in a pig pen. The dad stood at the window watching for his beloved son, day after day, week after week. When he caught sight of the familiar shape coming down the road, he ran to meet him and threw his arms around him. The son said 'Father, I have sinned against you and against God. I am not fit to be called your son, but if you let me be a farm hand, I'll be content'. The father's words were these: 'I don't care what you've done, I don't care what you've become--just come home.' This is what God wants--just come, no matter what you've done. This is Love.

I don't care what you are, just come home. God bless

Dylan - posted on 09/15/2013

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An Open Letter To People Who Hate Gay People

Dear United World Citizens of Homophobia,

For the last year or so, I’ve listened closely to your banter, be it from American GOP presidential hopefuls(emphasis on the hopeful) or from a number of other politicians in various parts of Africa. Not only did I hear and read some of the most heinous things about LGBT(Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender) people, but you even go as far as to continue to push for legislation to take rights away from us(I say “us” in case you missed it). In some cases they are even attempting to have gay people put to death.

To my own surprise, things like this still have to be written in 2011. Because it is evident that homophobia is still one of the last known widely accepted and open prejudices still standing in the world today. From Rick Perry’s promise to force gay and lesbian service members back into the closet from which they proud broke free from, to the people of Uganda proposing a “Kill The Gays” bill and posting names, photos, and addresses of suspected LGBT people in their local papers to ensure that they be terrorized. And most recently, Newt Gingrich(friend of the blog) expressed his disdain for gays so much that he’d rather gay people(including gay Republicans) just vote for Obama.



You see, the problem in society is not LGBT people, the problem is you. The small minded, often religious, ignorant people who know little to nothing about what it means to be gay on any level, be it scientifically or socially, and have no interest in taking the time to understand. The problem is that you are able to direct hate at a group of people and then hide behind your Bible, which carries many flaws itself when it comes to moral leadership. You attempt to hide your homophobic hatred behind the idea that being gay is a choice when in actuality your religion, ignorance, and bigotry is what’s being chosen.

No one wakes up and decides to be viewed as a second class citizen because they want to. If this is the case, tell me, at what point in your life did you choose to be straight? Because if you chose to be straight that would mean the only reason you’re not gay is because you haven’t met the right guy or girl yet. In which case, I have some very persuasive single friends you should meet. You say things like “God gave us sexual organs to reproduce and well, gays can’t do that” but riddle me this. When was the last time you had sex for the sole purpose of creating a child? Thought so. Because the truth of the matter is most all sex that occurs is for the purpose of pleasure and nothing more.

I can’t recall the last time I heard a guy complain about no women wanting him to get them pregnant but I’ve heard quite few about not being able to get laid. Yet the common theme echoed throughout the our lives is to have more sex, have better sex, and “how you can have more better sex!!” right, Cosmo and Men’s Health? So now that were done with that flawed argument…



The idea that LGBT people can’t be good parents has been debunked many times (or just ask Zach Wahls) as well as the effect gay marriage has on society and the institution itself. The last time I checked, the few states that offer the hetero-luxury of being married if you’re gay were still in tact, not on fire, and haven’t fallen off into the ocean yet. None of your reasons for hating gay people hold up to any type of modern litmus test of being a societal nuisance, yet you continue to cling to your hatred and bigotry. Why? What are you afraid of? That gays might actually be nice people? That you might have to change your belief system? Face your own repressed homosexuality? That you might actually have to teach your children who Jesus “really” was?

Because he mentioned being gay zero times in the good book but he mentions love, acceptance, and peace numerous times. But we can’t go around having people thinking that Jesus loved EVERYBODY right? Give it some thought the next time you’re working on the Sabbath, touching a football, dining at Red Lobster, wearing clothing of mixed fabric, having sex on your period, trimming your side burns and beard, getting a tattoo, or not killing your children for being disobedient. You’re very familiar with Leviticus assume.

What I don’t understand is how “Christians” can be at the forefront of a movement against gay and lesbian hard working, TAX PAYING, South African citizens who live in a country based on principles of both liberty and freedom and then attempt to obstruct those very liberties and freedoms.And also by christian believes You claim that being gay is unnatural. Well so are glasses that correct your vision, wheel chairs for paraplegics, and brain surgery to remove a tumor. Your poor vision and brain tumor occurred naturally, yet you opt to go against your God and defy his perfect governing of your life and choose unnatural means to defy him. Clearly he didn’t want you seeing that far or living past a certain age right?
Your car got T-boned by a semi and now you need a wheel chair to get around? Obviously, the natural thing to do is to crawl. Crawl everywhere you need to go because God didn’t birth you into the world with a wheel chair. But he did give you arms and a torso so the natural thing to do would be to just crawl.

Because you see, being gay is natural. Being a hateful, homophobic bigot is a lifestyle choice. You can continue to go on hating people for being different, but that will never make you right. It is true that the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice, and everyday we get closer to that justice for LGBT people. And many years from now you will be the shining example of what we reflect upon in classrooms and history books, the way we look back on our soiled history as human beings for unflattering events that occurred in the world like slavery, the Holocaust, and the Civil Rights Movement. You will be an embarrassment to yourself and the family that proceeds you. Because homosexuality occurs in over a thousand different species. But homophobia only occurs in one.


“Are you too so uncomprehending? Don’t you see that whatever goes into your mouth from the outside cannot defile you; because it does not go into your heart, but into your stomach, and is eliminated?(in saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) That which proceeds from within you, out of your heart, defiles you. Evil thoughts, abusive sex acts, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting, wickedness, deceit, not caring, envy, slander, arrogance and foolishness: all of these evil things proceed from within and defile you.” – Jesus (Mark 7:18-23)

Angela - posted on 03/29/2013

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QUOTE: (from Krista-Travis Addison)
“It is not natural to be gay, no animal in nature purposely goes out and tries to make its bloodline go extinct by not breeding with the opposite sex. If everyone were gay the human race would go extinct, how is this natural?”

Everyone is NOT gay though – just like all the animal kingdom are not gay either. Up to 10% of humans MAY be homosexual. There IS evidence of same sex partnerships in the animal kingdom too. People do not get married in order to produce children, they marry because they have met someone with whom they want to be an equal life partner – a great many couples of course DO have children but (for those of us who are married) I would hate to feel that my spouse married me with the aim of entering a breeding programme together!

If it’s “natural” to breed with the opposite sex, what does this say about heterosexual couples who make a conscious decision not to have a family? About heterosexual individuals who do not pair up with a partner anyway? What about couples who are unable to reproduce? Or those who marry later in life and are too old to have children? Are all of these people going against nature? Do we only exist to breed?

Over the years, Nature has always produced “riddles” and will go on doing so. I have already said several times on this thread that gay people do not choose to be homosexual! Are you straight? Did you choose to be straight? Of course you didn’t! You just found that you were! Surely if any of us had any choice about our sexuality, we would ALL choose the easier, mainstream option! No-one chooses to make their lives more difficult! Gay people face enough hatred, bigotry and misunderstanding – no-one would CHOOSE this!

There are many heterosexual couples that elect NOT to have children. It is not necessarily a natural, inbuilt instinct to reproduce! I know DOZENS of couples that are proudly childfree by choice! There are also many gay couples who raise families together, either through assisted conception (donor eggs, donor sperm etc), fostering or adoption. So the breeding argument is pretty well null & void! Indeed, there are so many children who need a family home that it would probably be better if more people refrained from producing further children on this overpopulated earth and took action to help those that were already here!

Krista-Travis - posted on 03/28/2013

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Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet and show my people their transgression, and their sins".
Isaiah 58:1
No one is born gay, it is a decision and the bible says it is the wrong one. It is not Judging to let some one know they are wrong because God has already judged this issue. Now its all about warning people, you do not watch your kids head for an interstate on their bike without warning them of the danger. God calls on christians to stand up against evil and to speak up on what is right and what is wrong. The saying "Judge not lest ye be judged first" we our very morals are being Judged in a court this very moment as to what will be the new standard for marriage. Like it or not you are being judged. It is not natural to be gay, no animal in nature purposely goes out and tries to make its bloodline go extinct by not breeding with the opposite sex. If every one were gay the human race would go extinct, how is this natural?

Kayla - posted on 03/05/2013

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Interesting comments being posted. In my opinion, as Christians, we are to believe that the Bible is the infalliable truth- breathed by the Holy Spirit- no matter when it was written or where we are, what it says is right. Well if the Bible, which is God's word, says homosexuality is wrong, than it is wrong. Period. The topic of homosexuality is so touchy because we all know someone who is gay- we can put a face to it- it is personal. Also as Chrisitians we are to walk on forgiveness and in love. God views all sins the same- if being gay is a sin, it is just as bad as lying, jealousy, etc love them and forgive them. As far as the original question goes, my sis in law is engaged to a woman.. My husband and agreed that they are not allowed to stay the night in our home and our kids are not allowed to stay the night at their place. We have agree that Sam will be My sis's friend and when at the right age we will advise them of what it means and so on. I am all about being up front and forward, to an extent, with my kids--- afterall I would rather them hear the truth from me than the seniors on the back of the school bus lol
Anywho that's my rambling---

Angela - posted on 01/07/2013

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Daniel, my children are adults and have their own opinions and choices - I do not plant "seeds" or ideas in their minds. Not really sure what you're speaking of. Generally I try not to judge people because as the Bible says, I'd need to take the log out of my own eye in order to see properly to remove the speck out of someone else's eye! (Matthew 7:5)

You have said you are gay - I don't judge you for that. Why should I? None of us chooses our sexuality. I happen to be straight - I didn't choose to be straight, that's just the way I am.

Not really sure what you're saying here, Daniel. Please post again & explain. Thanks.

Daniel - posted on 01/06/2013

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And finally all your doing is growing ideas in Your children's minds taking there right to decide what they believe which is a reusable thing that hurts many people how do we grow if were stuck on a petty thing like this

Daniel - posted on 01/06/2013

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You people can't be Christian and judge that is good job and if you think you have the right to judge then you aren't a true Christian

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