Lying about Santa Claus?

A - posted on 11/21/2009 ( 113 moms have responded )

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I don't want to lie to my children about Santa Claus existing. My husband doesnt want our child to be the kid ruining it for others. I think we can work around that problem by saying to our kid that other people do believe there is a Santa Claus (just like people celebrate different holidays.) What do you think?

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Heather - posted on 12/03/2009

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I am on the other side of this. A lie is something that isn't true. If it isn't about lying, but about fun, then we are teaching our kids that not telling the truth is fun... Jesus is the way, the TRUTH, and the life. If we lie to our children about Santa then how are they to know we aren't lying about Jesus? It is about their innocence. But not worldly innocence, but spiritual innocence. Our kids know the history of St. Nicolas, they know that Santa is pretend. Presents come from loved ones just like on birthdays. This is after all Jesus' birthday. We get presents because he lives inside of us. We give presents to others because Jesus wants us to share his love with others.



I do not mean to be offensive, but we need to keep the focus on Christ. Not water it down with Santa or over look it all together. We are suppose to be ambassadors for him, not Santa or the tooth fairy. We have dedicated our lives to Jesus and we are suppose to be set apart from the world.



2 Corinthians 5:20

We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God.

A - posted on 12/16/2013

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Santa and Jesus are both imaginary beings created by humans to make us feel good about ourselves or force our kids to behave a certain way. Nobody has ever seen Santa and nobody has ever seen Jesus.

Carla - posted on 11/21/2009

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I don't know, honey, I was raised by Christian parents, and we believe in Santa until I was about 12! It was a magical time, and one I handed down to my children. We made cookies and milk for Santa, sometimes tunafish sandwiches. We taught them that Christmas was Jesus' birthday, they were in church plays, Christmas Eve services, etc. I did not hold it against my parents when I learned there was no Santa, nor did I feel they were lying to me. It was just a wonderful part of our childhood that I wouldn't have wanted to miss.

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I am a Christian and was raised that way. We were told the truth about Santa when my brothers and sisters were kids. Our parents taught us about Jesus and without him we would not have the things we did. Everything comes from Jesus and I believe that with all my heart. I almost died 4 years ago, but now I have a husband and a beautiful baby boy thanks to Jesus. My husband and I have wonderful jobs thanks to Jesus. This allows us to be able to afford presents for Christmas. My dad has always said, "why give the credit to a man in a red costume that isn't real, when the credit should go towards Jesus and your mother and I who have worked hard for all of these gifts?" I just don't see the good in lying to our children when we yell at them for lying to us. Then later they find out santa isn't real. Mix up the letters in Santa and what do you get SATAN! Think about that one a minute. Lets try to teach our children the real reason about Christmas. The year I almost died which was before I knew my husband I told my parents lets not get gifts for each other I am just happy to be alive. That was the best Christmas, because no shopping stress at all. That and it was just the fact we were together and alive that made it so special.
I will teach my children the truth about a man a long time ago who brought gifts to orphanages and that is how santa started. My brothers and sisters and I did not go and shout to other children about how did not exist, because we were taught the truth about Jesus and the whole situation. My husband and I will be bringing our son up the same way and my in-laws are giving us a hard time also. The Lord will be with us helping along the way. Jesus died for our sins and one is lying so why teach your children that lying is ok, because it isn't. Think about that one. The pain he went through on the cross for YOU!!!
JESUS LOVES YOU ALL!!!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Christmas is a magical time for our children and the history of Santa Clause or Saint Nicolis or what ever we choose to call him is vast. There is a book "the Autobiography of Santa" and it explains the beginning and continuing story of Santa. The primes is anyone how does good deeds for others is in a way Santa clause. I gave this to my grand daughter last Christmas. It was a good experience for her and now she gives more at Christmas and does not think about herself so much.

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Carla - posted on 12/26/2013

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If God waved a magic wand and magically made us all healthy, wealthy, happy and sappy, He would have billions of people that would be spineless, petty, jealous and greedy, but would not have the character of God. We mistakeningly think that this life is all there is, so God SHOULD give us everything we want while we are on Earth. But our souls live forever, A Ward, and because of this, the short time we are on earth is for learning, trusting, discovering and growing. Some people are born into wealth--and have everything handed to them on a silver platter. And they usually end up with no character, because they haven't gone through any trial to mold their character into something more than just someone standing with their hand out, wanting more. I have seen people in real poverty with a love of God that are happy and content with what little they have. A woman I know raised 7 children in a 2 bedroom house without a tub or shower. Every night she marched her kids down the street to her sister's for their nightly scrubbing. She grew food in her little garden and thanked God for it. This woman was richer than the Rothchild's, because she was GRATEFUL for what she had. This is TRUE RICHES, A Ward, and those riches can't be taken away from her. We raised our children in a 3300 sq/ft house, had new cars, condo in Fl, mink coat, and we were miserable. Marriage on the rocks, health took a dump, daughter estranged from us, it was a mess. Once I cried out to God for real (yes, I had gone to church and called myself a Christian, but my heart had not been changed), things started changing. Now you might think God wasn't looking out for us, but He was. We had to leave our beautiful home, sell my car, let the condo do, and move to a 1,000 sq/ft house in the hood. But God was working on our hearts, and 12 years later, we are happier here than we EVER were when we had the material things people judge happiness by. We are living on less than 25% of what we had before, but God allows us to not only meet our obligations, but has given enough that we give to more missions and outreach programs than we supported with more. My heart is happy, and I have found a purpose for my life, even though I am what you would call a shut-in. Doesn't God love me? If, according to your guidelines, and am not healthy, don't have plenty, He doesn't love me. But it's just the opposite! God LOVES me because He took care of my soul, my heart, if you will, and has made us grateful and thankful for what we have.

Jonny Ericson Tada (Google her) is confined to a wheel chair, paralyzed from a skiing accident. Does God love her any less because she hasn't been healed? Far from it! She testifies of the goodness of God wherever she goes. I watched a singer, her name was Dahlia (probably 20 years ago), perform in her wheelchair onstage, and she wheeled that chair around while she sang praises to God. Why would she do that? God didn't heal her, why was she singing? Because God has shown her it's what's in our hearts that defines our happiness.

Life is a learning process. And we take from it what we will. I chose to embrace God's love that I feel in my heart, and not judge my success by what kind of car I drive or where my house is. Bad things happen to good people. Good things happen to bad people. It's how we learn from these experiences that counts. I chose to accept the bad to find the good.

I hope you can understand this, and look a little deeper into What exactly and Who exactly God is. I don't think you will be disappointed.

God bless

A - posted on 12/25/2013

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Carla, without a doubt I stumbled onto this community while searching something else related to Santa. Upon reading some of the comments I felt the need to try to spread a word of common sense to people who follow blindly without any thought of reality. If god does love so as you state, then why such a HUGE discrepancy in the method by which he spreads that love? Poverty, abuse, neglect, curable disease, cancer. These are just a few of the ways this powerful loving father you speak of shows his love for children of the world. I want no part of that relationship. I am a father and I would NEVER allow my children to get cancer and struggle with that disease...not if I had the power to prevent it.

And to all of you parents who think you'll be doing some sort of disservice to your child by having a little fun with the Santa thing I have two words: Lighten up. Millions of children have discovered the reality of Santa and millions of them did not go on to become serial killers due to this deception.

Anixa - posted on 12/24/2013

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Note: Once your children no longer believe in Santa the pressure is off on you getting them their most anticipated toy of the holiday. Yeah...how's that for growing up, looking back, and then thinking "what a bunch of cheapskates my parents were--they ruined the fun part of the holiday so they could honestly say "we can't afford to get you blah-blah-blah for Christmas". Selfish.

Anixa - posted on 12/24/2013

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Sienna Alison Macmillan -- Just give him a huge hug and tell him it's okay if he doesn't believe in Santa, but if he's going to make such a mature decision he must also be mindful and respectful of other children who believe differently. You'll be helping him learn and practice tolerance for others beliefs. Help him come up with a basic response if any child should ask him "Well, why don't you believe?" You don't want him saying "Because my Mom told me so." How about a simple "because I choose not to believe in Santa, but it's fine if you do" and leave it at that.

Anixa - posted on 12/24/2013

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Question: How many of the parents here responding that it's 'good' to tell children that Santa is pretend had that actually happen to themselves as children? Is it because your parents let you believe in Santa and you resent it, or is it based on what your beliefs are now that you are an ADULT and can no longer remember how exciting it was at the prospect of the burly man in red coming down the chimney with toys for you?! If you DID believe in Santa, did you grow into a faithless non-believer in God once you found out Santa wasn't real? Yeah, you can tell yourself you're being 'honest', but I guarantee there will be puh-lenty of times you're going to lie to your child....and it won't be about something as delightful as Santa.

Anixa - posted on 12/24/2013

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My daughter-in-law recently told my granddaughter (who is only 5) that Santa is only 'pretend' because she was afraid in the future her daughter would also doubt Jesus is real since Mommy lied about Santa. I'm SO freakin' angry with her for that right now. Great.....tell a 5 year old so she can ruin it for the other kids at a much earlier age than happens already! How dare anyone take away one of the fondest childhood memories --that happens only once out of every year--because he or she is so selfishly fearful. I have news..EVERY child will grow into an adult that will make his/her own decisions about what faith to adopt. They may even believe you lied to them about Jesus! Raping a child's gift of innocence and imagination because of where you are in your faith as an ADULT is sad and disgusting. We live in the bible belt, and there are plenty of Christians that don't worry about the story of Santa. Know why? Because the rest of the year a child is in Sunday school learning about Jesus, and I don't know any Christians who grew up whining about being lied to about Santa and therefore no longer believed in Jesus. Don't visit your own horrible upbringing upon your own children.

Sienna Alison - posted on 12/23/2013

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my 8 years old son brandon dosent belive in santa and i dont know what to do because if i tell him santas not real he will tell evrey child in school and spoil christmas day evrey year for them

Carla - posted on 12/17/2013

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A Ward--if you do not believe in Jesus, I think you might be in the wrong community.

You may not believe in Jesus, but He believes in you, and would like a relationship with you and ALL people. God is Love. He loved us so much He sent Jesus to die for our sins as so wouldn't have to live bound by them. He is waiting for you--and I pray you see Him for What He is--a loving friend, a companion, AND a Savior.

May God bless you and have a good day.

Angela - posted on 12/11/2013

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Santa is a customary tradition – not a truth – simply an amusing tradition. Rather like eating roast turkey on Christmas Day is a tradition. In fact, rather like Christmas Day itself is a tradition – it is very unlikely that Jesus was born on 25th December. However this date is the date that most Christians keep as the date of our Lord’s nativity.

Santa is derived from 2 older traditions. One is “Father Christmas” which is another name for Santa Claus in the UK. Father Christmas is the Christian version of “Yule Father” a kindly and benevolent mythical figure from pagan times who visited in midwinter to raise spirits and distribute gifts.

The other tradition is St Nicholas. St Nicholas was a Christian saint who is said to have helped poor people by throwing gold coins down their chimney or alternatively by dropping gold coins into their stockings as they were hanging on the washing line to air. These are LEGENDS and there is no real evidence outside of these legends that St Nicholas actually ever did these things!

St Nicholas DID exist though. Dutch children put their clogs outside their doors on the eve of St Nicholas’s Day and the legend is that he fills them with sweets and small toys. Therefore in Holland, the gift giving is on St Nicolas’s Eve & on St Nicholas’s Day (5th & 6th December) – in the UK it would be Christmas Day itself.

St Nicholas is the patron saint of many causes and people and places. He is patron of a great many towns and cities in Holland – including Amsterdam.

If we’re not going to boycott the eating of turkey on Christmas Day or boycott the keeping of 25th December as Christ’s date of birth (and numerous other Christmas traditions) – then why do we need to boycott Santa?

Just a thought!

Keith - posted on 12/01/2013

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I THINK YOUR KID WILL LOVE YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND MORE FOR TELLING THE TRUTH,THEN TO LIEING TO THEM.And if they need to believe in JESUS,read the story of hunakah, and the giving of gifts,and that when there friends grow up they will see santa is a lie, and that you and yourf husband gave gifts, out of your love for your children,

Stacy - posted on 11/26/2013

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I didnt understand either. And maybe it was just me but it was hard to follow what cj was saying, maybe I was tired while reading it or something lol

But I agree with you. Being baptized in water when you were a baby, thats not really being saved, to me. I mean dont we all sin? Just because your of a certain denomination or have been baptized (in water) doesnt make you one with God. I am meaning we as Gods children have to come to him, accept Jesus as our Savior, in our mind, body, spirit try to live for him, and try to treat others the way Jesus would treat them.
I just dont agree with calling others wackos, speaking of baptism as a dip in holy water, looking down on Born again persons. Every one sins, everyone whether you are a christian or not. whether you had got lost in your life and fully returned back to the Lord, or if you have been with Him your whole life, that does not change the Love of God. We all make mistakes, and all our mistakes are different. We need to try our best to never judge others mistakes they are making in their life's, because we also make mistakes, no one is better than anyone else. Only God can judge us and that day will come. I am so blessed to say that today I have a Savior that loves me for me, He knows my heart, He know who I am, He forgives me of my sins, and with His help, love, encouragement, I will try my best to make an impression on this world, living for Him, help someone on this earth to come to Him. I love my God and I feel His love for me every moment. I pray that you all feel it, and if not I pray that you will soon be able to feel and share the love of God

Carla - posted on 11/26/2013

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Thanks for posting, Stacy. I have to admit, I went back and read it several times and can't figure out why DD was so upset. This was one of the segments of CJs post that I was addressing:

'I hope your Christian/Catholic. Not "Born Again". Like you burn in hell if not baptized. Dumbest thing to tell a Catholic were all baptized as a baby. Well everyone married in a church at least. Make sure your beind educated by true Christian or Catholics not born again Christians. Their all wackos. 99.9% of them have been addicts and done horrible things in life and think a dip in holy water washes them away. No way.'

All are welcome to post their feelings on a particular subject. But we are to be respectful within the confines of our guidelines, which are pinned at the top of our topic page.

God bless, all.

Stacy - posted on 11/24/2013

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I agree with your post Carla, I dont see anything wrong with it, it seems like you were just trying to help another.
I do believe I havent posted, I apologize if I had in the past, but I and my hubby have decided now what we want our son to get from Christmas. Number one to know Christmas is about the birth of our Savior. We have movies and little cartoons of santa that we let him watch and I think it is totally fine. We will not tell him santa is real, because I feel that with how big of a deal it is for kids to get presents from santa and the magic and wonder of it all, I dont want that the interfere with his learning of Jesus' birth. We are telling him santa is just another seasonal cartoon, we can read and watch him as much as he wants, but he doesnt think of santa more than that. He gets to learn about Jesus' birth and he also gets to enjoy the fictional characters on tv or in a book, they just dont go further than that.
We dont have anything Santa in our home except movies and books, no santa decor. We have our tree and we are trying to keep him in the knowing that it is more about gift giving than receiving. This year (hes 2 1/2) hes more understanding so I hope starting this year to start the tradition of reading about Jesus the days before and on Christmas, and other activities as a family to focus on our Saviors birth.

I know a lot of kids believe in santa, so we will let him know, and we will try our best to make sure he doesnt go telling others he isnt real. As for any parent they all have a choice to tell them either. I dont see it right or wrong as long as Jesus comes first, and that santa does not overshadow the true meaning.

D - posted on 11/18/2013

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I am very saddened that CA said what she did!! For her to make a statement that this is a "christian" webpage...is kind of an oxymoron defined by her statement... Is this how we build one another up???..is this how we encourage and love one another???!! Really?? those words were harsh and full of tone and judgement to bring you down and to make you second guess what God has revealed to your heart!

I was looking for a website to help explain to my daycare why my family believes differently... I do not tell people because often times you will get a look of their own insecurity and judgement...but I was telling the teacher that i will probably keep my son home that day (from Christmas party-because Santa will be there) because I do not want other parents angry at my son and I for teaching my son contrary to what most people teach...(in other words I dont want my son to be the "one" that told their kid) That is me trying to respect other families beliefs!

I get so tired of people coming down on those that do not teach in secular characters... I do not teach my children in Santa, easter bunny, tooth fairy, etc...but I never have made someone ever feel judged or ashamed for teaching their children in those things, so I wish others would have the same respect! what works for one family may not work for another is how I explain it...Everyones walk with Christ is unique and special... If you feel God leading you one way..then trust it... If God leads you to teach Santa...then trust it... For me and my husband personally, it does not set well with our hearts... Now thats OUR family! I would tell people Don't judge a persons relationship with the Lord based on your OWN standards/rules.... because that is one thing that CA said was right...its about the relationship you have with the Lord!! Praise God for that!

Lets just remember that we as the body are not to condemn one another, but build each other up in love and peace! Encourage one another in this awful ugly world! We have already been judged!! The punishment was death...and it was paid in FULL with the blood of Jesus!! and now it is finished!!! We can rest and trust in the Lord to lead us to all understanding!!!

I would tell you AN to talk with our father about it... Listen to others in the body also, but use discernment with that... We are not here to please the world or make everyone love us... we have been set apart... and often times this looks very weird and unsettling to others... May peace and comfort be with you.

DD

Carla - posted on 10/10/2013

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Wow, CJ. I am speechless. You DO realize you are on a Christian webpage, don't you?

Being born again means that we, as sinners, were accepted by God through Jesus, and our past was blotted out, washed away, as you say. Being baptized AFTER accepting Jesus demonstrates that we have died to our past and now live to God. This has absolutely nothing to do with whether we let the children believe in Santa or not. There are a lot of Christians AND non-Christians who do not feel it's right to lie about the Santa myth, as there are a lot who feel there's nothing wrong with Santa, as long as he has his place, and Jesus has His. I am in the latter group. Childhood has been taken away from children so much in this modern time that I feel we are raising adults who are jaded, with no faith. Christmas time is a wondrous time, and as long as we teach our children God gave us the BEST gift at Christmas, Jesus, Santa's place in their minds is secondary. We decorate our trees and houses, then turn the lights off to see the beautiful lights, bake cookies, pies, candy--it's a beautiful tradition and one I cherish, first with my children and now with our grandchildren.

Remember, CJ, that just being a 'good person' is not what gets you into Heaven. It's having an alive, vibrant relationship with Jesus. If you don't have that, I pray that you ask the Lord to talk to you about this. He will lead you to where you can learn of His beauty in your life.

God bless

CJ - posted on 10/10/2013

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I think it's a discussion with the 12 year old one on one. And the 4 year old don't care yet and don't spoil it yet when other one has 8 years on him. I would let them sit in the den with toys playing as you and dad do a religious passage or whatever to EACH other. Just being around it they will learn the street
You want to go down. And will join when time is rite. Just show them what their parents do and kids learn from us. To impose your will is just not fair. Just on the basic concept the 12 year old has 8 years on 4. But your kids do what u want. But my question is you got to be late 30 early 40. You haven't done it yet but want to lay it on a 4 year old. WoW

CJ - posted on 10/10/2013

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First off I feel so
Sad. But can you Anwser a few questions I'm curious. We're your parents and are they still real real cheap? Do they think your husbands famly are nuts and down them? Do they thi k your nuts by what you do for your kids at xmass. Are they unhappy all the time. I ask because this is a hit home topic and want to compare notes

CJ - posted on 10/09/2013

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I been Catholic my whole life attending k to 12 and Colladge ant catholic schools. Santa is comercial every catholic child believes and is reinforced by comercial advertisements. Santa is a concept and concept from St Nick. And at the time tell the spirt is real and mom n dad carried on the tradition for Santa/st. Nick. The spirit is real. And a bad kid does deserve less. And a angel what they want. It is a tool to make them behave. That is. It wrong

Now as a catholic. You think when you get to the pearly gates God will say you told a lie about Santa to your children. Your s bad person. Your not allowed to this paradise. Be real. If you treat people correct and raise children with values that's all you can do.

I hope your Christian/Catholic. Not "Born Again". Like you burn in hell if not baptized. Dumbest thing to tell a Catholic were all baptized as a baby. Well everyone married in a church at least. Make sure your beind educated by true Christian or Catholics not born again Christians. Their all wackos. 99.9% of them have been addicts and done horrible things in life and think a dip in holy water washes them away. No way. Not the way or works. Just like some
E people that go to church not often are not more religious. My mom prays and does her rutein every night and never has their been a more worthy person. I think if you lie to your child every day to make them happy or on a good path. It's parenting. If they become a good person is the goal. And in osance is a gift. It's so short before the reality of a hard life hits.

So don't worry. Just make sure you have the rite people around you. Like some Christian churches have plasters. Guys who go home and get laid and drink and do whatever. Go to a priest (one that ain't into kids). Joking. But they devoted their life and studdied for years to do their job. Also many teach religion in schools so a priest is always your best person to ask to get the real truth. Just be honest with them. You swear when u talk do it with them. They want the real you. Just no burn in hell if your not saved nut jobs and you will be fine with advice from real Christians. But no worries always ask. If I do this and was questioned by God what would I tell him and what would or how would I feel. If its ok then you u are ok. If you have morals and rooted values from generations past.

Faith - posted on 12/17/2012

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Angela, I agree totally with you, We must be honest with our kids and others. Christ is the reason we celebrate Christmas.

Angela - posted on 12/11/2012

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See my earlier post - here, I'll quote from it:



"Most children who find out about Santa Claus (no-one told me - I worked it out on my own at the age of 7) don't so much care about the lie, they're more concerned that other children in their peer group already knew and were secretly laughing at them.



And the fact is, once children know there is no Santa Claus, most of them will break their necks to tell their young friends at school! And quite possibly spill the secret to younger kids too. I gave my kids the legend of Santa Claus when they were tiny, say as toddlers. By the time they started full time school at 5, they KNEW!!



No parents of any other kids ever came to my home to complain that my kids had told their kids there was no Santa. To be honest I would've laughed in their faces. Life must be very boring if you would actually take the trouble to visit people to complain their kid told your own child that Santa wasn't real! "



Your choice!

Angela - posted on 12/09/2012

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Being a new Christian I know I have a lot to learn, and I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because when my kids were little I taught them all about Santa Claus and he came every Christmas, and I was guilty of telling them "You better be good because Santa knows when you've been bad or good"... and that right there is one of my issues with Santa Claus.

First off, a lie is a lie.. and nowhere in the bible is there a "santa claus clause".. Second, I know that GOD is the only one who really knows if we've been bad or good. And aside from the obvious lie, which breaks one commandment, wouldn't it be breaking one to tell our children that there is a person out there that possesses something that only GOD has.. the gift of knowing if we're good or bad at all times.. even when nobody is watching. It's not a risk I am willing to take. I understand that some want to keep the innocence of children, but at the same time, ask yourself this.. how innocent is it? And What do you think our LORD would have to say about it??

Caryl - posted on 12/05/2012

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I don't feel as though it is a lie, Today's times are hard enough being a kid ,and Santa is makes kids happy why take that away it's the spirit of Christ"mas giving

Carla - posted on 11/15/2012

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I absolutely positively agree, Peggy. We NEVER blamed our parents/grandparents for lying to us! It was a magical, wondrous time, and I was sad when I found out the truth. I will continue this for my grandchildren as long as possible. Kids have a lifetime to grow up and face reality, and just a few years to be innocent.



Jesus IS our Reason for the Season. But I will also continue Santa coming down the chimney and the Easter Bunny as long as possible.



God bless!

Peggy - posted on 11/15/2012

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My Mom was one of those people that did not want to lie to her kids about Santa, we never did the Santa thing as kids. I think it ruined Christmas for us kids. My husband's family went all out at Christmas, the pretending and waiting for Santa left him witht magical memories of Christmas as a child. I think everyone should teach Children the true meaning of Christmas as the most important reason for the Holiday. But I don't see anything wrong with a little magic for the kids, along with the true story of Santa. I wanted my kids to have those magical memories of Christmas too. So this is the way we do Christmas.

I didn't want my kids wondering why some kids get all these gifts from Santa and some kids hardly get anything, does Santa just love some kids more that others? Also I didn't want them asking for things they know we can't afford, so I tell the kids that Santa has every kid in the whole world to give presents to so he can only give one gift per child and Santa also fills the stockings. We open all the gifts from Mom, Dad, relatives and everyone else on Christmas Eve and the Santa gift and stockings on Christmas moring. This has worked well for us and the kids don't have unrealistic expectations and the proper people get a thank you from the kids.

Angela - posted on 11/14/2012

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Santa Claus is only very loosely based on the story of St Nicholas. Nicholas is understood to have dropped money down a chimney to save a man from selling his daughters into prostitution as the family were so poor. Other versions of the tale say that Nicholas dropped coins into stockings that were hanging on the line.



Although St Nicholas definitely existed, many of the stories of things he had done in his lifetime are actually legends - stories so old and well-told that no-one knows for sure whether they're really true or not.



Realistically, I don't believe the modern Santa Claus has very much to do with St. Nicholas!



Most children who find out about Santa Claus (no-one told me - I worked it out on my own at the age of 7) don't so much care about the lie, they're more concerned that other children in their peer group already knew and were secretly laughing at them.



And the fact is, once children know there is no Santa Claus, most of them will break their necks to tell their young friends at school! And quite possibly spill the secret to younger kids too. I gave my kids the legend of Santa Claus when they were tiny, say as toddlers. By the time they started full time school at 5, they KNEW!!



No parents of any other kids ever came to my home to complain that my kids had told their kids there was no Santa. To be honest I would've laughed in their faces. Life must be very boring if you would actually take the trouble to visit people to complain their kid told your own child that Santa wasn't real!



As for gifts being from Santa - where I come from, the "belief" is that parents, grandparents, other relatives and friends buy children their presents. Then, they send them off to Santa who only delivers them - he DOESN'T give stuff himself! Heck, no-one I know would WANT Santa to get the credit when they've spent $$$ or £££ on decent gifts!



I really don't believe in selling kids a story that will make them look silly to their peer group. Too many parents like to keep their kids young for as long as possible. My own parents valiantly attempted to keep up the Santa rubbish after I found out. They'd have had me believing in him at 12 years at beyond if I'd been gullible enough!

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I came across this post as I was searching the Internet regarding this topic. I grew up with "santa" gifts -- always more from Santa then from any other person, so he was "extra" special. Did the same things with my kids -- Santa over indulges, whereas mom and dad do the basics (clothes, small gifts) However, I am a fairly new Christian and was so disappointed in Christmas last year as the focus was Santa this and Santa that. I am determined to make our Christmas and our home more Christ focuses this Christmas and have many things planned to help with that. One of the things I am considering is telling the truth (kids are 12, 9 and 4) I realized that I have been painting Santa as God like -- He see's you when you're sleeping. He knows where you've been bad or good. Etc, etc. I have the book Santa, Are You For Real? and am considering using that to help me break the news .... Not set in stone yet, still debating with myself. But thanks for all the great comments, it really helps :)

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I never wanted to lie either so I made a huge deal about St. Nicholas, not Santa. We learned all about him, kept his traditions and my kids always understood that the 'gift giving' of christmas was representative of the gifts brought to Jesus when he was born - which is why my kids always and only had 3 gifts period. And when asked when they were younger, they'd reply: God saved the world and only got 3 gifts on his birthday! LOL We kept the 'surprise' of christmas morning alive by honoring St. Nicholas. So my kids never believed in Santa, and to other kids St. Nicholas is Santa so when they said there was no Santa, only St. Nick, it didn't affect any other child. When they were old enough to know the truth, it wasn't any different than what they already new, expect they figured out mom and dad bought the presents.

Hope this helps!

Amanda - posted on 05/10/2010

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It was so hard for me to let my kids believe in Santa because when I found out I was MAD. I wasn't mad because he wasn't real I was mad beause my parents lied to me. I was in first grade and I still at 30 years old remeber how mad I was. But my husband was steadfast that our kids would believe in Santa, so I gave in. Let me tell you I felt like crap when my son asked if Santa was real and I had to tell him that no Santa wasn't real, he was based on a kindly old gentleman that delivered toys to the children in his village. My little boys eyes welled up with tears and I felt like I had just been handed the worst mother of the year award. We cried together that night. Brandon grew up a little more that night and I lost a little more of my little boy. My daughter still believes and I pity the kid that tries to tell her the truth. Brandon understands why we lied about Santa, and I don't think he equates it with a lie, but I still do.

Cara - posted on 05/06/2010

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We told our girls about the historical Santa, and explained than many parents tell their children the whole 'santa story'. We cautioned them to not contradict what other parents tell their kids, as that is rude. But, I couldn't order them to lie, so if someone asked their opinion, to give it gently. :)
My daughter, who is now 13, thanked me for not lying to her. She said that if I had it would make it hard for her to trust me on other important things now. (we are now in the whole 'boy' time of life.)

Diana - posted on 02/25/2010

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We have the book "St. Nicholas, the story behind the legend" (something like that). It tells the story of Saint Nicholas and how the legend of Santa Claus got started. I read this to my kids and they know that Santa is not real. I have to remind them not to say anything around other kids so as not to disappoint them. I also told them the same thing about not saying anything about the Easter Bunny.

Stephanie - posted on 02/25/2010

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my boys ages 4 and twins that are 2, know about santa but we don't have gifts that are from santa. they are from mom and dad and family members. we really trying to focus on celebrating the birth of Jesus. we haven't had to worry about them saying anything to other kids yet so haven't had to come across that issue.

Felicia - posted on 02/24/2010

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When I found out the truth about Santa Claus, I wasn't upset or mad. I didn't feel betrayed by my parents. My kids don't believe in Santa anymore. And when they found out that Santa wasn't "real", they weren't the least bit upset. But they do humor their old mom and pretent to still believe in him. Of course, they do that because I told them, "the minute you don't believe in Santa, that's the year you get only clothes."

Michelle - posted on 02/24/2010

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Well, this is what we decided for our kids - who are now almost 12 and 15 years old and know the truth about it now. We decided to share the original story of Saint Nicolas with our kids as a traditional thing. We went on to tell them that each Christmas he gives things to children all over the world in honor of Christ's birthday. He gave our kids a board game or something else to share because Jesus likes sharing. When the kids got old enough we told them about the tradition that we continued as parents in honor of what Saint Nicolas did so many years ago in the past and that it was a fun thing like the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny. We also make a birthday cake for Jesus every year and our tree is decorated with angels and we have nativity sets in our home and front yard. So our focus is still where it should be.

Lisa - posted on 02/21/2010

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There is a book named Santa are you for real? It is a very gentle way to talk about who Santa really was. In the end your child believes that Santa wanted to do good things and that people dress up and pretend to be like him. They don't believe that he is still alive, but mimicked. A very good book. Read it and then make your decision.

Brenda - posted on 02/19/2010

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We came up with a perfect solution to that dilemma when Sam was born. Everything under the tree was always from mom & dad. Santa left one special present that was always set apart from the rest or in really weird paper. That way he got to enjoy the fun and the fantasy that we didn't want him to miss out on but we never had to lie to him. He enjoyed everything at church as well as Santa and still looks forward to Christmas each year at 14 :)

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So I know this is really late, but wanted to share for others still thinking on the subject. I taught third, fourth, and fifth grade for 6 years. I loved that I got to watch the kids progress for 3 years. When I got the kids as third graders, nearly all of them believed every printed word they read. Fact vs Fiction was a very difficult reading topic. They might get that if the animal talked it was fiction, but if the story was about a random boy, they just assumed there really was a random boy somewhere in the world. By the time they left fifth grade, nearly all of them had a great grasp of Fact vs Fiction. Ironically - not really - as they started to grasp Fact vs Fiction, they made the connection on the Santa thing. The only ones who walked out of 5th grade still believing in Santa were the ones whose parents overly pushed the issue. (For reference, most of the kids were 8 year olds when I first started with them and 11 year olds when they graduated from my room.)

In my own home, I have an intersting problem as my now 6 year old hasn't really believed the last 2 years. My now 8 year old is just starting to question it. My 6 year old is very fact oriented and sees the impossibilites of Santa. (He also pointed out at Disney World this summer that it was impossible for Mickey Mouse to be in 2 places at once. Just the way his mind works.) My 8 year old loves dress up and imaginary play. Just two totally different kids. By not making a big deal either way, the 6 year old doesn't tease the 8 year old about it at all. He is even very good at asking the questions in private so as not to ruin the others fun.

At Christmas, there is no from name on the gifts the kids get from my husband and I. My parents still do this for us kids. I don't give the gifts so I can get a thank you. I give the gifts because I love my kids. The thank you is the joy in their faces as they open them!

Amazingly, its the Santa thing that most brings home to me what it means to "have faith like a child" as Jesus says. Before I had kids and went through the Santa dilema in my head, I didn't really know what a "child-like faith" was like. A "child-like faith" is one that doesn't question anything God does. Imagine being willing to never question God's plan for our lives.

Shannon - posted on 02/17/2010

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We told our son about Saint Nicholas (who many call Santa Claus), and we explained his life and his ministry. We've told our son that anyone can be a Santa Claus--that person just needs to have a heart that wants to give without getting anything in return. He was excited that he could be a Santa to other, less fortunate kids. This way if he gets a gift from Santa, he doesn't necessarily think it is from the 'mall Santa'; he knows someone loves him enough to give him something without needing recognition. It's working so far.

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I keep in mind that the tradition of Santa Claus has pagan roots, but then so does the time chosen for the holiday. Jesus was probably not born on December 25, but that is around the time of the Yule - a pagan holiday. I'm planning to explain Santa Claus that way to my daughter when she's old enough to understand the cultural background behind the 'modern' holidays.

Candy - posted on 02/14/2010

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What does the Bilble say? Thou shalt not lie. I don't see any exceptions listed after that command.

Lorellei - posted on 02/13/2010

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I don't embrace Santa either. He's 4 1/2 yrs old....instead, I told him that it was the birth of our Lord and that we celebrated by giving each other gifts as it was did to Him. I don't take much care about spoiling anything for other children when he's in school, know why? they who have no real values won't either. I don't support Halloween either, we ate the candies ourelves....lol.....lola...♥

Angela - posted on 02/12/2010

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We never made a big deal about Santa. We focused on the birth of Jesus but let our son sit on Santa's lap and talk with his friends about him and all the fun with pretending. When he asked at 5 years old if there was a Santa, I asked him what he thought. He answered 'yes' so I left it at that. The next year the same thing and when it was his 7th year he asked again and added," and don't ask me what I think" so I knew it was time. I told him the true story of St. Nick and that there is no 'santa' that comes to our house but people like to remember the good he did. I also told him that many children still believe and he should not tell other children what he knows. I liked that I didn't have to lie but didn't have to take such a magical part of Christmas from him either. Good luck!

Jessica - posted on 02/11/2010

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I don't lie to my kid either. I just feel like honesty is the best policy when it comes to our kids, so I am honest about everything. I don't want her to find out I lied to her. Then why should she trust me when I do tell her the truth? So I agree with you. As for worrying about your child ruining it for others, simply stress to him that not everyone feels the same way you guys do about Santa, and some kids do believe. Just tell him not to go into that conversation with other kids, because he could end up upsetting them. That's what I do with my daughter. And if she does slip up, it's really not a big deal because that's just what he belives. It doesn't make Santa any less real for the other kids. They just consider it his opinion.

Karen - posted on 02/10/2010

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We had 7 children, and we didn't do santa at Christmas either. It was harder for the grandparents to accept this than the kids. We did a Christmas sock instead, and it was opened at our convenience, when we came back from the grandparents etc. The kids just had to learn not to tell other kids that there was no santa- this was the hardest!

Ashley - posted on 02/08/2010

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We tell out children that Santa is a fun story. A fairy tale just like Cinderella. It's not real but its lots of fun to pretend. That works for them. They know the truth, I'm not lying, and they as of yet haven't said anything to other children. When Santa came to thier schools they just had fun with it.

Melanie L - posted on 02/06/2010

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My parents never lied to us about Santa, the Easter bunny, or the tooth fairy. They had the idea of why lie, about such a big part of a childs life, only to dissapoint them. Also, we can't teach our kids not to lie, if we are lying to them about something so important. With my oldest son, I never really played it one way or the other. One day when he was 4 or 5 he asked if Santa was real. I asked if he wanted to know what mom believed or what others believed. He wanted to know what I thought. SO I told him. I say it is fun to pretend, and that we should never tell other kids, if their parents want them to believe it. Christmas is about celebrating Jesus, and about time with family. We still did pics with Santa, and would talk about it, but he knew the truth. Part of it for me, was the whole theory that if you are good, Santa brings you a bunch of presents. Well that does not happen for all kids. I know as a child it was dissapointing to think that because we didn't have alot of money I didn't get much, even if I was good. But other kids, who seemed rotten to the core, Got alot. Now if you child believes in Santa, what does that tell them. The story is wrong, or that mom and dad lied, about being good has it's rewards? As for my 2nd son, I did the same thing. My last is my daughter who will just be turning 6. She hasn't really asked yet, and I don't make a big deal out of it. I still do easter baskets, and give them money for their teeth, but they know it all comes from mom and dad. It has nothing to do with how good they are, but has everything to do with mom and dad doing the best they can.

Amy - posted on 02/03/2010

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I have always been honest with my children about Santa Clause. I didn't see the point in lying to them about a fictional character that they would find the truth out about sooner or later anyway. I just always explained to them that other kids do believe in him and that the best thing to do when people mentioned him was just to smile and shrug it off. Or if asked to simply say they didn't celebrate Santa Clause. By not making a big deal out of it, it taught them not to make a big deal about it. Now when people ask them if they are excited about Santa they just smile and look at each other and giggle. It has become their little inside joke.

Karen - posted on 02/03/2010

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My husband and I agree not tell the children lies about holiday figures. It not only is lying but takes so much away from the truth of Gods love and his sacrifice for us. But his parents have fought us every step of the way. Our oldest son understands completely and had no issues. Our six year old is very confused because of grandparents and school. Our 3 year old doesn't seem to understand what any of it is about. We talk about Santa at Christmas and tell them Saint Nicolus was a real person and did good things for children. We tell them that we should be like him and do good things for other people. The world confuses our children. We should not.

Marcia - posted on 02/03/2010

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My husband and I debated on this very question. We were both raised in homes where Santa brought gifts every year. Our families were Christian, but, not devout. (We attended church when it was convenient) After we married we were drawn to the church and became baptized in the Holy Spirit. When I was expecting our first child, I had a rather profound experience, that brought the question of Santa into play. I over heard a couple of women talking, and one said, "I have never lied to my children about anything." In practically the next breath she made a comment about what Santa was bringing for children. I almost starting laughing right in front of her. I told my husband what was said latter that day. We then sat down to discuss what we were going to do for our children. We had decided to keep Santa a non-issue, for the time being. We prayed that God would direct us when the time was right. As our daughter began to grow up and ask questions, we dodged them as best we could. I think she was about seven when we began to fall on hard times. God brought a memory to me that helped us make a final decision. I remembered going to school and hearing all the wonderful gifts that my classmates had received from Santa. I went home crushed. Santa had brought me only one thing, and it wasn't even what I asked for. I knew I must not have been as "good" as I had thought. I must have been a very bad person. I never wanted my children to feel this way. We knew from that point on that our children would know the TRUTH. They have been taught about Saint Nick (the real man), They know the true stories and the myths. They know that some children are taught to believe in Santa and it is not up to them to tell these children any differently. When other kids ask them what they got from Santa, they simply say our family has chosen not to accept gifts from Santa. I feel, I can look at our lives and honestly say, We do not lie to our children.

Lisa - posted on 02/02/2010

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I agree that it is a personal decision and we don't think badly of anyone that decides to celebrate differently than us. We also decided to not participate in Santa. We didn't feel comfortable convincing her that he was real and then have to try to explain later that he isn't, but Jesus is. What should she believe then? We have taught her about the real St Nick and that other people believe. My daughter is 6 and will NOT ruin it for others. She understands that they believe and that that is ok. She feels special to know something most kids don't. We have talked about how she feels special and she agrees that we shouldn't lie to her. She doesn't feel like she missed out on something, she likes knowing. We focus on the reason for the season Jesus and not worrying so much about keeping the "story of santa" going. Also, my inlaws took it the hardest.

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