Help, help, the yeast-beast must die!

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009 ( 22 moms have responded )

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My 8 month old is STILL battling thrush and a yeast infection on her bum. Please, what else can I do? I think I have tried it all, but anything anyone can think of would be helpful. Note: we use cloth diapers, she is on Nystatin oral and topical, I am on a Candida cleanse diet (so wonderful (note my sarcasim)), and I am trying to wash all her stuff. P.S. How do you kill yeast in non-machine washable toys?

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Kesha - posted on 01/29/2009

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This may sound crazy but it is called utter butter. Yes it is what it sounds like. It is cream to but on utters on animals. But it is also used for diaper rashes. You can go to just about any feed store and ask for it. It comes in a yellow tube with blue writting. It works wonders. Nothing could get rid of my son's yeast but this. For the longest time I even kept it on him as a maintence med. Still keep it around just in case. I think we pain 5 or 6 dollors for it.

Hope it helps!

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Olivia - posted on 01/29/2009

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You can buy Gentian Violet at most drugstores in the US, also.  I was told to dilute it 50/50 with water and swab the baby's mouth with it and to put it on my nipples before the baby nursed once a day for like three days.  I would check with my doc before trying this since you are using medications.  You may not want to mix them.

Korina - posted on 01/29/2009

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We used Gentian Violet. It's a little messy but it works in baby's mouth and mommy nipples! It's available at most drugstores here in Canada. Not sure where you are but it's worth checking into.

Heather - posted on 01/29/2009

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my daughter battled with yeast recently and what worked great for us was applying plain yogurt to the area.

also tons of air helps, too!

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Hi Nina. Tea tree oil is a powerful antiseptic. I don't dilute or mix it  myself, i buy products that feature tea tree oil and other botanical ingredients. They work really great and are so much safer than other products that contain bleach and/or chemicals.



I hope you get to the bottom of this problem. I love this site for all the great tips other moms can offer! Good luck.

Goldie - posted on 01/28/2009

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Our dr has given us samples of this stuff called Vusion and it works great. But I have found putting Destin creamy on then a and D or another water sealer seams to work to keep it at bay. The diaper store where I get her diapers also has tea tree oil that they all swear by there.

Nina - posted on 01/28/2009

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So, here is everything I've got.  Am I missing anything?  Thanks so much to you all for your help.





 



For the baby buns:



Nystatin ointment (2x a day)



Olive Oil to sooth irritation



At least one hour of diaper free time per day



Vinegar baths 2-3x per week for at least 20 min



No soap during baths so as to not irritate



Cloth diapers (occassionally switching with disposable to keep changing the environment)



Changing diapers every 2-3 hours



Washcloth wipes instead of disposables (so as to not irritate)



Sitz bath 2-3xper week for healing of bum and relaxation of the little turkey



Clean out the tub



Clean out the washing machine (Rinse wash with any number of disinfectants)



 



For the baby mouth:



Nystatin swish (4x per day)



Takes a probiotic mixed into her Nystatin 1x per day



Vinegar washcloths to suck on 1x per day (very diluted)



Clean toys, nipples for bottles, spoons, and boobs (breastfeeding)



No sharing toys, utensils etc.



She doesn't drink out of a bottle except for a little water, so no falling asleep on one,



and we are moving towards no extended sleep time on the breast. ( As in off it when she falls



asleep instead of hanging on with no end in sight)



 



For the mama's body:



Taking a probiotic per doc. recommendations



Wiping breasts with vinegar 3x per day



Air for breasts at least one hour of the day



I don't wear breast pads, so that is no problemo



On a Candida cleanse diet (no sugar, yeast or dairy)



Vinegar baths with baby 2-3x per week for at least 20 min



Keeping my own self clean and dry with air time



Cotton underwear



Drinking lots of water



Can use the Nystatin topical ointment on my breasts if it becomes necessary



I know about the Genitan Violet stuff, but we are not quite there yet. (My doc will advise)



 



Cloth Diaper care:



Safe detergent



3 or 4 drops of tea tree oil in wash per week 



1 vinegar soak for all diapers (already done)



Fully dryed (no yucky moistness)



 



Misc.:



Wash sheets and blankets



Everyone in the house washing hands often



I know about the yogurt, but I can't use it because of the diet



I know about letting toys dry out in the sun, but it is January



 



I should write a book.



Thanks again friends



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Just saw the post on tea tree oil. It does work! Using hosehold disinfectants that contain it as well, has hepled me with cleaning toys and other baby stuff. Its great because its so much safer than bleach!! I use Melaleuca products www.melaleuca.com. My house is completely chemical and bleach free thanks to this company! Let me know what you think...

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Hi Nina! I went through something similar. Are you breast feeding? If so you need to treat yourself as well, because you are most likely passing it back  when you feed her.  The doctor prescribed me with a topical cream that is safe enough to continue breast feeding. If you use bottles or sippy cups and spoons... you need to sterilize them. The best way for nipples and pacifiers is to submerge them in boiling water for at least 2-5 minutes. No need to put any cleaners in the water only the temp of the water will kill the yeast. After they've cooled clean them well with a bottle brush and antibacterial dish soap. That should help the Nystatin be more effective!



Hope this helps!!!!

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009

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Really?  Tea tree oil as a disinfectant?  I am relatively new to the cloth diaper world, but I use a couple drops in the diaper wash once a week.  Do you suggest more often?

Victoria - posted on 01/27/2009

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I'd try tea tree oil on all of her dipes. I use it EVERY time I wash and I use it on my wipe solution. You can wash her clothes in it too and it's safer then bleach. Good Luck!

Rebecca - posted on 01/27/2009

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PS not sure about dishwasher. I wouldn't think the toys would last in the heat of it!

Rebecca - posted on 01/27/2009

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Sorry, acidophilus worked well for me. *quick check of baby books*



"Keep everything DRY.



Keep nappy off baby to let rash air 3-4 times a day.



Keep nursing pads absolutely dry.



Bleach underwear, bras, nursing pads, nappies. 



Treat bedsheets, towels, and underwear.



Boil dummies, teats, nipple shields, for 7 minutes while treating thrush and when treatment is completed (7 days after symptoms all dissappear) replace ALL dummies, teats, teething rings, toothbrushes (of family members)



Toys should be washed in hot soapy water & bleached regularly. (PS if you are convinced it is in the toys perhaps you may consider throwing them out & getting new?)



Expressed breastmilk can be used immediately, but should not be frozen for future use. Freezing does not kill the fungus and the infection may recur if infected milk is stored and used at a later date.



Wash your hands and NAILS regularly and throughly after each nappy change & nipple treatment.



Complete your medication course as provided by doc. Do not stop just because symptoms have dissappeared. "



 



hope this helps. let us know how you go :-)

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009

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Unfortunately, sunshine is somewhat in short supply this time of year.  What about dishwashing?  Like in the machine?  Mixed reviews on whether or not it gets hot enough in there for toys.  Same thing with the clothes washer.  What can one do then?

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009

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Unfortunately, sunshine is somewhat in short supply this time of year.  What about dishwashing?  Like in the machine?  Mixed reviews on whether or not it gets hot enough in there for toys.  Same thing with the clothes washer.  What can one do then?

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009

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Unfortunately, sunshine is somewhat in short supply this time of year.  What about dishwashing?  Like in the machine?  Mixed reviews on whether or not it gets hot enough in there for toys.  Same thing with the clothes washer.  What can one do then?

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009

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I am taking a probiotic supplement per the docs instructions, as is the little turkey.

Nina - posted on 01/27/2009

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Normally, the yogurt thing would be great, but the cadida (yeast) clense diet calls for zero dairy, yeast products and sugar, not to mention all things refined.  Bummer.

Tami - posted on 01/27/2009

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I just started this battle! I've been putting some vinegar in her bath water b/c I read that neutralizes the yeast. I'm also going to try plain ole Monistat if that doesn't clear it up.  You can also put diluted vinegar on your nips after each feeding if you are BFing. I would try baking non washable stuff in the sun. Other than that I have no clue but I look forward to reading everyones ideas. I never knew how tuff this is to get rid of! Good luck!

Rebecca - posted on 01/27/2009

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As for toys, i don't have a definite cure, but try washing as normal and giving them a good dry in the hot sun. (natures best anti-bacterial)

Rebecca - posted on 01/27/2009

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Have you tried simple acidophilus yoghurt? Worked for us cos the bacteria is in the gut of bub as well as elsewhere, and the yoghurt helps... somehow... you eat, she eats it, only a couple of teaspoons though.

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