7 year old suspended for *pop tart gun*

Denikka - posted on 03/06/2013 ( 6 moms have responded )

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http://www.10news.com/news/watercooler/s...

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2013/0...

http://newsfixnow.com/2013/03/05/7-year-...

So it appears that there is some discrepancies between the stories, mainly regarding whether he actually *brandished* the *weapon* and whether he actually said "bang bang" or not.

But. . . .really?? A pop tart *gun* gets a 7yr old suspended for 2 days? That's just as crazy as the 6yr old kid who was suspended for using his finger in a gun shape and saying bang bang.
http://news.discovery.com/human/boy-6-su...

I think this is ridiculous. What ever happened to playing cops and robbers, cowboys and indians? Kids used to use sticks, water guns, nerf guns, their fingers, whatever. *Gun play* has been around forever. My grandmother (80+) remembers playing cowboys and indians using sticks as guns. 99.999999% of those kids are never going to grow up to actually shoot someone, and the few incidents where a younger kid does shoot another, it's the parent at fault, not the child.
I think the system has just gone crazy. They're overprotective and hyper vigilant to the point of ridiculousness. I think they're WAY too focused on all the wrong things in school nowadays.

What do you guys think? Is this justified or just going way overboard in being hypersensitive after some of the tragic school shootings the world has experienced?

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Denikka - posted on 03/07/2013

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""By the way Dennika, Its nice that you are comfortable with butchering your own meat. I have chickens but I only use them for eggs. I can gut a fish in seconds but I just can't kill a bird or a larger animal. i lack the hands on knowledge to do it properly so the animal does not suffer.""


Ahahahahaha! Comfortable?? Not yet XD I've never actually done it before, but I do have the intention and I've been reading so that I can learn how. We'll see how I actually do at crunch time :P

Northern - posted on 03/06/2013

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There's nothing wrong with guns in our society. There is something wrong with individuals who are aberrated on the subject of guns. The bias in the media plays a big role here. It lives off the next story of gun voilence and the public reacts on emotion. They see the image of a gun and immediately associate it with murder, school massacre etc. The media never shows normal, responsible gun owners, hunters, farmers etc.

It's sad that childrens are victimized by this issue.

Teachers may be less aprehensive of gun images in parts of the country where hunting and farming are part of life.

I live in Northern Ontario and have many neighbors that go hunting. I think teachers here have more common sense on this issue. They know better than to jail parents for gun drawings or suspend students for pop tart guns *rolls eyes*

I would like to eventually get a gun license. My husband works for months away from home and I dont feel safe, left all alone with the kids.

By the way Dennika, Its nice that you are comfortable with butchering your own meat. I have chickens but I only use them for eggs. I can gut a fish in seconds but I just can't kill a bird or a larger animal. i lack the hands on knowledge to do it properly so the animal does not suffer.

Kathryn - posted on 03/06/2013

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In general, I think schools and society are being too sensitive.

I remember when my kids were going to elementary school. On our street all the kids met at one spot, while waiting for the school bus. There were always the same parents who would wait with their "precious" offspring. Kids, being kids, started tossing snowballs. My son threw a snowball at another child (a bit younger). The parent complained to the principal of the school, who in turn called me.
I said the school has nothing to do with this, because we are on our own street, not school property. He understood (he also knew this complaining mother) and was just trying to give me a 'heads up' basically.
On school grounds, they are not permitted to play snowballs.

Guns are not that important in Canada, and we don't seem to have the problem, like America does. Even though, if I did live in America, I'd probably want a gun.

The problem runs deeper than guns. It is a decline of our society as a whole. Too many people with mental problems, either not taking their medication, or should be in treatment (hospital) Drug and alcohol dependance. Too many people on welfare...without any morals.
I say this many times, but when they stop providing welfare to single mothers most of these problems will go away. It will take a generation to raise these children that may need to go into foster care, but then babies will not be a money making scheme. They just need to say, that in 10 months welfare is no longer an option.
These woman will either get a job, or move back with family.

I don't like guns. I don't fear them. I will not watch any tv show where an animal is being hurt or killed. If I had to kill my own meat, I'd be a vegetarian.

Denikka - posted on 03/06/2013

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The third link still works for me, but it's weird that the others don't. I heard about the story and just Googled it, and those links were what I came up with.
I just finished your article. That one is just. . .super special. Something was drawn, but no one has any proof of what exactly it was, a conversation was had that apparently alarmed the teacher, but the contents of that conversation aren't being disclosed. . . .Yup...sounds super legit.

My kids play with Nerf guns. They love them. They also play with water guns...and a suction cup bow. I DREAD the day that I send them to school.
I intend on having them out at a young age (8-10), shooting both real guns and bows. I've been an avid archer and want to share that with my kids. I enjoy target practice with rifles and bb guns. I would love to send my kids out hunting when they're older (in their early teens).
Their dad is an avid paint-baller, and wants to take the kids out as soon as they're old enough. Plus the stories that dad already brings home and loves to tell us, all about his excursion.
We watch horror films (the kids rarely watch them, but have occasionally walked in while me and hubby were watching) and nature documentaries. Some of them are pretty brutal (they especially love dinosaur shows like the BBC's Walking With... series)
And on top of all that, I intend to start raising my own meat in the next few years. Chickens especially I intend to butcher at home. The kids are going to help with that (not necessarily the actual killing, but the process-plucking, butchering, etc)

I can only imagine what kind of pictures my kids may come up with. Bloody, headless chickens hanging by their feet. Dinosaurs ripping each other apart. Hunting scenes depicting them (or dad or uncle) shooting a deer or pig. People shooting each other (in their mind, paintball, in the teacher's mind. . . .probably not so happy shiny)
Just one more terrifying thing about the state of the world. . .

Northern - posted on 03/06/2013

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I would like to read the story but your links dont work or articles are no longer available :/

To answer your question, yes, schools are becoming too hypersensitive on the subject of guns.

There is an interesting story about a Kitchener dad who got arrested after his daughter drew a picture of a gun. It made national headlines last year.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/28/fat...

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