10 Reasons Why Being Gay is WRONG!!!

Sara - posted on 03/02/2010 ( 333 moms have responded )

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01) Being gay is not natural.
♥ And real Americans always reject unnatural things like polyester, and air conditioning, tattoos, piercings


02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay,
♥in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.


03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior.
♥People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.


04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all;
♥Hence why women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.


05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed;
♥And we can't let the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage be destroyed.


06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children.
♥So therefore, gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our population isn't out of control, our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.


07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children,
♥Since of course straight parents only raise straight children.


08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion.
♥In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.


09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home.
♥ Which is exactly why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.


10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms.
♥Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

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JL - posted on 03/06/2010

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Persecuted....PLEASE.....those of you who claim you are being persecuted for Christian ideals you have no fucking clue what real persecution and religous intolerance is. YOU have the freedom and right to spew bigotry and worship who you want. YOu are not being beaten, abused, or have armed revolutionaries ripping your children from your arms to train them as soldiers or have governments making laws that forbid your religious practices.



Let's ship all the poor "persecuted" Christians to the countries where women are stoned to death for just the accusation of adultry, where they are forcibly mutilated to keep them from having sex, where they are raped, where children starve to death, where children are ripped from their homes and beated, where people who do not follow Christian faiths are hunted down called witches and blamed for all the diseases that occur in their villages. None of us have no fucking clue while typing on our laptops and computers with our roofs over our heads, our children safe, with our health care and our freedom what it TRUELY means to be persecuted...PLEASE.



Try being a HIndu or Sikh in Pakistan where they are forced to flee their homes and are bombed, beaten and arrested. Try being a Buddhist in Tibet where the Chinese beat and murder them for wanting peace and freedom, for speaking out against China's inhumane policies. When was the last time any of your homes and places of worship were bombed because of your religion. How many of you fear that wearing your hijab will incite hate and make people stare at you in fear.



PLEASE it is insulting to all those across the world with no freedom and rights who are truely persecuted to even reference to the idea.

Rosie - posted on 03/23/2010

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i've only told my husband this, no one else. the reason why, is because the way our society is about homosexuals let alone bisexuals. when i was approximately 9-10 ish my best friend and i would make out, and fondle each other. i knew i liked girls that early, but i also like boys. i'd try to let go of the excitement of seeing a naked woman, but since i also felt that excitement for men i always went for the men. it wasn't until a few years ago that i came to the realization that i like women and men. i've never been with a woman, but i can't help but find everything about a woman attractive. i never chose to be this way, i just am this way.



the statement that satan makes them feel left out is so beyond ridiculous, it makes me want to puke. people killing other people for the simple fact that they are gay is not people simply feeling left out. how does that even equivilate to feeling left out? i'm also astounded by the way you claim that god didn't make gay people, sin does. it's the one thing that christians refuse to let god take credit for. yet when something horrible happens in the world, you all will say it's just gods will. like being gay is so much worse than a fucking hurricaine killing thousands of people.



and satan didn't make me think christians were hateful, or closeminded-they did a good job of that all on their own.

Esther - posted on 03/18/2010

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Michelle - Let me start off by saying that I too really appreciate your contributions to this thread! This topic however is one that is VERY close to my heart so I have to debate it. To me it is about basic human rights and I just cannot shrug my shoulders and say "OK, if you believe it's a sin, let's just continue to deny this section of the population their rights". So here I go:



This is from the church down my street's website (Christ Church of Summit):



Open and Affirming Declaration



In May, 1999, at a meeting of the congregation of Christ Church in Summit, NJ, following several months of discussion, study, and deliberation, the following "ONA" statment was voted on and adopted by a nearly 90% plurality of the members of the church:



We believe that we are all part of God's creation and that we are all sisters and brothers in God's family. We welcome and affirm gay men and lesbians into the life and leadership of our congregation. We condemn all acts of violence against people because of their sexual orientation.



To this end, we join the United Church of Christ Open & Affirming Congregations and the American Baptist Churches Welcoming & Affirming congregations. And in the spirit of this affirmation, we authorize our ministers to extend to gay men and lesbians all of the blessings of life in our congregation, including the blessing of same-sex unions.




So as Carol has said, there are Christians and Christian denominations who interpret the bible differently and who interpret God's will differently. Since there is room for debate here, even among Christians, why should one particular section of one particular religion get to determine what's right for all of us? If gay marriage is legalized, nobody is going to force anyone from that particular section of that particular religion to marry someone of the same sex. So people can continue to live the way they see fit, while allowing others to do the same.



And then there is this:



The Lord said to Moses "Say to the people of Israel, Any of the people of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, who gives any of their children to [the god] Molech shall be put to death; the people of the land shall stone them with stones. I myself will set my face against that person, and cut them off from among his people, because they have given one of their children to [the god] Molech, defiling my sanctuary and profaning my holy name. And if the people of the land do at all hide their eyes from that person when they give one of their children to [the god] Molech, and do not put them to death, then I will set my face against them and their family, and will cut them off from among their people, they and all who play the harlot after [the god] Molech(9, 10) For every one who curse their mother or father shall be put to death; they have cursed their parents, their blood be upon them. If any man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death(13) If a man lies with a male as though he were a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them(18) If a man lies with a woman during her menstruationboth of them shall be cut off from among the people(27) If a man or a woman becomes a wizard or a medium they shall be put to death; they shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them."




This is a passage often referenced when Christians explain why they think homosexuality is wrong. It's the "If a man lies with a male as though he were a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them". But that is the 3rd sin in a list of 5 sins. It starts with how kids cursing their parents should be put to death. I don't know about any of you, but I personally would not have lived to adulthood if my parents (or my government) had enforced that rule. Then there are the adulterers. The world wouldn't be quite as populated as it is now if we followed that rule either. Sex during menstruation - guilty! Becoming a wizard or a medium, maybe not a huge part of the population, but I see storefronts for palm readers and psychics fairly regularly still. Last I checked, they weren't being prosecuted, let alone stoned to death. So the point is, although all of these things may be considered sins in the eyes of God, we've already broken with his rule to stone them all to death. As a matter of fact, we haven't even made any of this illegal.



We have a separation of church & state because your religion should dictate how you live, not how I live, just as my beliefs should dictate how I live, not you. If say one day in the future Wahhabism (fundamentalist Islam) became the majority religion in this country, would you be OK with the government mandating burkas or outlawing women in the workplace or driving cars? No! People should be free to live according to their own beliefs and basic human rights should be granted to all and protected for all. That includes homosexuals.

~Jennifer - posted on 03/08/2010

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Quoting Christa



As soon as I read the title....I knew the "clique" was all going to be in agreement with eachother. I was rather surprised that in our debate forum they actually thought they would get a debate.



Poor Suzanne....went again the clique and got verbally abused.



Not sure why Veronica came back for more.....she should know by now that the clique is always against her.



The reason why this issue is not being debating is because people have become way to smart. They know this isn't a debate forum anymore....this is just a place for the clique to share their opinions....is a nice friendly manner. The only arguments that are ever held here anymore are when someone speaks out against them and they feed on their prey.



Like poor Suzanne and Veronica.








....Wow....LOVE the 'clique' theory.



That would almost be like saying the same thing about that little 'clique' that banded together to pass proposition 8 and tell everyone that was against it how WRONG they were. Did you see any of the coverage of the rallies against Prop 8?

Poor 'Fred and George'; poor 'Lynne and Melinda' - they went against "THE CLIQUE" too. I wonder how 'the clique' enjoyed feeding on them.....

......what was the name of that 'clique' again......?

(I figure you'd know b/c **you** are part of THAT one.)



....I guess it just hinges on whose dinner party you show up to.



I must say - it's an interesting comparison, isn't it? Labeling people that agree with 'each other' as a clique to belittle them for a different point of view or set of beliefs........



Quoting Christa (from another thread on the forum):



A true Christian should not be afraid of criticism. In fact, as a Christian one should regularly (daily) examine their conscience and find their faults and try to become a better person. A Christian person should be a humble person. Someone not afraid to admit that they are not perfect and have failures. But are trying to change that part of their life to become a better person. Religion is like politics.....we all have our spin on what we believe. We don't all have to agree with eachother....we just have to respect eachother.




.....thanks for all the respect as well as the insight on 'how a true Christian 'should' act..

It's been a very informative 'lesson'.

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Charlie - posted on 07/31/2010

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yes they do and they are damn delicious , i have such a craving now ...

Charlie - posted on 07/31/2010

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Well im definitely going to hell i eat those things weekly , will i be doubly in trouble because we catch those things to sell AND eat LOL.

Isobel - posted on 07/31/2010

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no lobster, squid, octopus, prawns, balmain bugs :), clams, mussels, abalone, etc...anything without scales...no eating it...but at least wine is all good :D

Isobel - posted on 07/31/2010

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We go to Maine for two weeks at the end of every August...hang out on the beach and eat lobster and steamers with Rupe's whole family (there were 25 of us on the beach last year :))

mmmmmm my mouth is watering already.

Rosie - posted on 07/31/2010

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why in 2 weeks laura?!! i want to go eat some buttery fresh lobsta now!!!!

Sara - posted on 07/31/2010

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Oh yeah, Laura? Well, I'm going to go out and mix some crops right now...and there's nothing you can do about it!!!

Isobel - posted on 07/30/2010

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In two weeks, I'm going to eat nothing but lobster and clams...open up the gates to hell :) cause I'm coming through (all buttered up) lol

Danielle - posted on 07/30/2010

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LMAO...all sins are equal...and you sin every day. So your day to day sinning is comparable with murder? Come on...

Danielle - posted on 07/30/2010

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Oh! LOL I apologize then for getting defensive. I was thinking why on earth is this girl acting like I'm one of those hardcore Christians (no offense, Christians) who doesn't like gay people when I just said one of my best friends is gay! Haha.

Charlie - posted on 07/30/2010

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Danielle , i believe they were responding to Angie's post not yours :D

Sara - posted on 07/30/2010

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Oh Lord, are we starting the Christian Nation speak again? That's a whole other argument, so I'll just say that you can't legislate morality because it's subjective thing. What is moral to you may not be to someone else and vice versa. You can't expect people, especially people whose actions do not harm anyone else, to live under your Christian value system. I would say it's pretty ridiculous to expect that everyone shares, or should share, your same belief system. What you are essentially saying is that there's no difference between a murderer and a homosexual...well, I don't agree. Then again, I'm not religious. Guess I'm an immoral heathen too....right now I'm mixing fabrics. I'm sporting linen AND wool.

Danielle - posted on 07/30/2010

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My gay boyfriend is funnier and more honest with me than any of my girlfriends. I'd be heartbroken for him if he couldn't marry the love of his life! Especially legally. I mean legal is legal it's not about some sort of religious belief or anything, so I just don't understand why some states refuse to marry a gay couple down at city hall or whatever. I'm Canadian, gay couples can get married here and I'm proud of my country for allowing it. Now I can understand some religions/churches refusing to marry a gay couple...we have to respect their beliefs too...but once again, with regards to the legal system...it shouldn't stand in the way of two people expressing their love and uniting as one in the act of marriage!

Rosie - posted on 07/30/2010

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so you really think that if someone killed your child you would feel that would be the same as if your child were homosexual? cause murder is the same as homosexuality, right (according to you)?
you ask where the compassion is, and that statement confuses me. are you asking where the compassion for all the christians who use the name of god to hate, fear and sometimes kill a group of people who have done nothing to anybody except for fall in love with someone who loves them back. i ask you where is your compassion?

Angie - posted on 07/30/2010

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Question for everyone...
Some people are saying being a gay/faggot/homosexual...or whatever you call it is a sin... (which I believe it is) What are your sins? I believe that your sin and Jo blows sins are the same, yes it is hard to not judge and point fingers. But seriously where is the compassion? For the ones who are using the 10 commandments to try and justify if they are law or not. Yes this nation was based upon and were formed under a Christian belief. Which has fallen far from it! I belief to attack eachother for difference of opinions and beliefs will not get you anywhere in life!! I believe all sins are equal whether its a lie, stealing, committing adultery, homosexuality, murder, cussing, gossip, etc. I believe the 10 commandents are for moral laws and for people to not follow them are sinning. I sin on a daily basis, but the difference is I try to change.

Lucy - posted on 07/29/2010

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@ EVA - Sure, people are allowed to say something is a sin if they believe it to be so. Nobody is stopping you.

But there is no point getting so hot under the collar if others disagree with you. If you have the right to say homosexuality is a sin, I have the right to say intolerance is a sin. It's a shame you feel people are "hating" you by putting forward a different view point. It seems to me the hate is only coming from one direction, here.

Patricia - posted on 07/26/2010

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Why is it that some people take more time trying to figure out others lives than their own? Really? I think this Gay thing is over rated. My husbands ex is gay and BTW they have 2 children so the remark about straight marriages having children...is false. And no, gay parents do not raise gay children. Where do people come up with this crap? I gotta go, I just met a rich person and we know what that means...LOL

Meghan - posted on 07/04/2010

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I don't understand how it affects my life AT all if 2 men or 2 woman decide to get married. Straight people now a days aren't really doing the marriage thing "right" I think gay people deserve every right to be as unhappy as the rest of us HA!
I thought christian values and Christ's premis was to love unconditionally and forgive sins?? It all seems like a bunch of hypocritical horse pluckey if you ask me.

Nicole - posted on 07/04/2010

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bahahahahah god pppppllllleeeeaaasssseeee. i thought that good ol god was suppose to love every one and how do you know for sure if he himself wasnt GAY mmmm what were his deciples really.to say that being gay is a sin or bad just because you believe in god is pretty sad.some of the best people i have meet have been gay they are the best,on the other hand i have meet a whole lot more not so nice religous people out there.

Lyndsay - posted on 06/29/2010

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LOL... I like the one about Britney Spears and her hours-long marriage.

Pamela - posted on 06/29/2010

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Sara, where did you find this - or did you write this yourself? Because it's really funny and very clever (not to mention to the point). I think you may be brilliant.

Pamela - posted on 06/28/2010

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Really? If I hang out with tall people, I'll be tall? Because doggonit, everybody I hang out with is stinking taller than me and I'm still @#$%ing short. Haven't grown one little inch. In fact, I've gotten shorter!

Jennifer - posted on 04/13/2010

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I still don't understand why being "Gay" is such an issue in America. We are all people living in an alleged "Free" country. So we should all have equal rights! People need to get over it, and embrace it, cuz you can't change it!

Dana - posted on 04/12/2010

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Lol, guess we jumped the gun. Sorry about that, totally makes sense now.

Charlie - posted on 04/12/2010

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No worries Mandy ! a bit of a communication failure on both of our parts :D

Mandy - posted on 04/12/2010

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Well, just so you know, I did read the opening posts, and ALL the rest of them. I did like a FEW of the posts, but some ppl on here are still bitches and have to say that its wrong, and blah blah blah and your going to hell, blah blah....THATS who I was speaking to. Sorry :P

Krista - posted on 04/12/2010

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True, and then it flies all to hell and next thing you know, the Dutch are being made fun of. it's just not right, is it, Dana? ; )

Dana - posted on 04/12/2010

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It really is shocking how many people don't actually read the original post let alone the rest of them before they themselves post.

Iris - posted on 04/12/2010

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Mandy, you're agreeing with the majority here, and before getting upset it's always good to read the OP through...

Iris - posted on 04/12/2010

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Eri, thank you for giving us some insight in your culture, I really appreciate it. I think no matter where you are in the world you always have some prejudice people around, it's sad that some people can't be more acceptable. Thankfully some places have less ignorant people than others.

Krista - posted on 04/11/2010

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That whooshing sound? Yeah, that is the sound of this post going over a lot of people's heads, evidently.

Charlie - posted on 04/11/2010

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Mandy , perhaps you should read the whole original post , Its sarcasm , poking fun at homophobic people and the ridiculous things they say about the gay community .



This post is in DEFENSE of the gay community .

I wish people would read before they post *sigh*

Mandy - posted on 04/11/2010

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Wow, you ppl are SO pathetic. Does it make you feel better to judge other ppl so harsly? So what if they are gay? It doesnt matter. In fact, most gay ppl are MUCH nicer than you bible beaters, bc they have been judged so much. I hope that none of you children are gay. If so, will you disown them? GET A LIFE, and BE NICE to gay ppl.

Eri - posted on 04/10/2010

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hey iris and esther...

lol! yeah i know it's meant to be sarcastic... hahaha.. no worries.. im not mad or hav negative feelings bout it..hehehe..

i live in singapore. think u guys know dat its preety an open minded country but honestly, try living in s'pore.. hahaha.. singapore is a mixed race and culture city.. so we have mostly chinese, a mix of eurasian, malay and indians.. a mix of religions n philosophies..( christians, muslims, hindus n etc..) and plus im a muslim.. so in our religion, its a sin to be lesbian in da first place.. it's one of the major sin in the religion. Its said, it is a sign of end of the world if more of the followers turning gays! and truely around me, most of people of my religion are turning into one! hahahaha... its kinda hilarious actually to me... but i do respect my own religion but dat doesnt stop me from being one... my own partner been thrown out of her own family(on her mom's side) due to bein a lesbian. see how serious it is! wherelse most of our muslim gay friends, they dunt have kids. so life is so much easier for them.. even so, some of them face the same problems like my partner.. not accepted by their own family and some r worst! being forced to be straight n get married legally, have kids, leading life "NORMALLY"

we have cases like those closed minded people around us stare n look down on us when we go out.. they will give us this glare n whisper among themselves especially when our daughter calls my partner dady out loud... and i know its gona be extra hard on our daughter when she enters school... i know her friends will laugh and make fun of her..

that's why we working hard to collect money to migrate to the nearest open minded country, aussie, so dat we hav a better environment for our little family...

Eri - posted on 04/10/2010

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hey iris and esther...

lol! yeah i know it's meant to be sarcastic... hahaha.. no worries.. im not mad or hav negative feelings bout it..hehehe..

i live in singapore. think u guys know dat its preety an open minded country but honestly, try living in s'pore.. hahaha.. singapore is a mixed race and culture city.. so we have mostly chinese, a mix of eurasian, malay and indians.. a mix of religions n philosophies..( christians, muslims, hindus n etc..) and plus im a muslim.. so in our religion, its a sin to be lesbian in da first place.. it's one of the major sin in the religion. Its said, it is a sign of end of the world if more of the followers turning gays! and truely around me, most of people of my religion are turning into one! hahahaha... its kinda hilarious actually to me... but i do respect my own religion but dat doesnt stop me from being one... my own partner been thrown out of her own family(on her mom's side) due to bein a lesbian. see how serious it is! wherelse most of our muslim gay friends, they dunt have kids. so life is so much easier for them.. even so, some of them face the same problems like my partner.. not accepted by their own family and some r worst! being forced to be straight n get married legally, have kids, leading life "NORMALLY"

we have cases like those closed minded people around us stare n look down on us when we go out.. they will give us this glare n whisper among themselves especially when our daughter calls my partner dady out loud... and i know its gona be extra hard on our daughter when she enters school... i know her friends will laugh and make fun of her..

that's why we working hard to collect money to migrate to the nearest open minded country, aussie, so dat we hav a better environment for our little family...

Esther - posted on 03/30/2010

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Eri - the whole OP was meant sarcastically. Just wanted to make sure that came accross. I'd say 99% of all homosexuals were raised by straight parents. That's why it's such a ridiculous argument to say that people are somehow taught to be gay.

Iris - posted on 03/30/2010

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Eri, where do you live? Can you tell us about your experience? As every society is different it makes me curious.
I'm from Iceland but live in Hawaii. The Icelandic community is very open towards homosexuals and that's the way I've been brought up. Now, the Americans are not as open towards the homosexual community as I'm used to.
On a side note. I do believe in God (or maybe I should say some Higher power). I believe It made us to be what we are and to learn from it. Not to be punished for what we are but to learn from it and to learn from others.

Eri - posted on 03/29/2010

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woah... but i guesse its nothin, compare to be in my situation. im an asian muslim lesbian with a 4 yr old kid! try being one! i truely disagree with some of the points.. esp, point 7, i came from a strait family n look wad i am now!! LOL! its so irritating to live in a closed minded society. ive been thru a lot of criticism and insults from them.. newaez... learn how to live with them tho.. put on a pair of deaf ears!

Eri - posted on 03/29/2010

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woah... but i guesse its nothin, compare to be in my situation. im an asian muslim lesbian with a 4 yr old kid! try being one! i truely disagree with some of the points.. esp, point 7, i came from a strait family n look wad i am now!! LOL! its so irritating to live in a closed minded society. ive been thru a lot of criticism and insults from them.. newaez... learn how to live with them tho.. put on a pair of deaf ears!

Isobel - posted on 03/26/2010

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I think Jenniece hit the caps lock button instead of shift...

anyhoo...I think that it is amazing that most of the Christian reasons for opposing gay relationships appear to be found in the old testament...a part of the bible which appears (for the most part to have been abandoned) by the Chrisian faith...that's the part where they say you can't wear mixed fabrics, or eat shellfish or pork...apparently though the gay part sticks... I don't get it.

Charlie - posted on 03/26/2010

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@ Jenniece - Actually if you re- read the post you will find its in support of the gay and lesbian community as are majority of the posts in reply .

Esther - posted on 03/26/2010

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Jenniece - take a deep breath and read some of the posts on this thread. The vast majority of the posts are 100% supportive of your rights, including the original post. Even those that come down on the other side of the equation have been almost without exception very respectful. Please give them the same courtesy. No need to shout in ALL CAPS. Thanks.

Jenniece - posted on 03/26/2010

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wtf is this really? half of it doesnt make sense and u sound stupid IM GAY A LESBAIN AND ME MY GRLFRIEND HAVE A 6YR OLD SON WHO IS HAD NORMAL HAS THE NEXT KID AND IT SHOUDNT MATTER WHO U MARRY OR DATE HAD LONG HAS U AND THAT PERSON IS A POSITIVE PERSON AND A GOOD ROLE MODLE IN THERE LIFE U HAS A PARENT OR PARENTS TEACHIES UR CHILD HOW TO BE A POSTIVE PERSON IN LIFE AND A ROLE MODLE AND WHO 2 LOOK UP 2 .AND WE DONT RAISE OUR KIDS 2 BE GAY REALLY ? DO U REALLY THINK THAT GAYS OR BISEXUAL WAKE UP ONE MORNING AND SAY I WANT 2 BE GAY OR BI SO RUDE PPL SUCH HAS URSELF CAN SAY MEAN OR INAPPROPRIATE THINGS 2 US OR ABOUT US NO WE DONT ! BUT U CALL URSELF AN ADULT...YEA OKAY .AND LEGALIZING GAY MARRIAGE WILL BIG A BIG STEP IN THE GAY COMMUNITY AND ITS NOT HURTINF U OD ANYBODY ELES CANT HELP WHO U FALL IN LOVE WITH

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