a kindergarten student...with a gun..just spiffy

Tah - posted on 04/20/2011 ( 17 moms have responded )

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HOUSTON -- A kindergartner who brought a loaded gun Tuesday to his Houston elementary school was among three students injured by fragments when it fired after falling from his pocket as he sat down for lunch, officials said.



One bullet was fired about 10:35 a.m. in the Ross Elementary School cafeteria, spraying fragments at the students, said Houston Independent School District Assistant Police Chief Robert Mock.



"Either some type of chips off the floor, or it could be pieces of the round that discharged," Mock said. "They had some cuts and stuff on their legs, they don't appear to be life threatening."



Kennedi Glapion, 6, who was being picked up from school by her grandmother, said she saw the gun after it fell under a cafeteria table. She was one of 42 kindergartners who were the first group of kids having lunch in the cafeteria on Tuesday when the gun went off.



"It dropped on the floor, under the table. It was loud, it was so loud," said the kindergartner, who added that after the gun went off she was scared and started crying.



Glapion also said she saw one of the children who was injured and pointed to her right foot to indicate where the child was injured.



Two 6-year-old boys were wounded, including the one who had the gun. The boy who brought the gun was injured in his foot and the other boy was grazed in his leg, said Sam Sarabia, the elementary chief school officer for the Houston school district. A 5-year-old girl was injured in her knee, he said.



The boy who brought the gun might have been injured by the bullet while the other boy and the girl might have been injured by shrapnel, Sarabia said.



All three children were in stable condition and seemed to be in good spirits, said Dr. David deLemos at Texas Children's Hospital, where the kids were being treated.



The hospital identified two of the children: the girl, Za'Keyah Thomas, and one of the boys, Khoran Brown. The name of the boy who brought the gun was not released.



Brown's parents issued a statement through the hospital saying, "It is a sad situation that this took place but we are thankful our son is in good spirits. He is already asking to get back to school."



Houston police spokesman Victor Senties said it is too early in the investigation to tell if any charges will be filed.



Upset parents rushed to the school in northeast Houston where yellow crime scene tape was strung and more than a dozen police and district patrol cars were parked.



Parents were allowed to take their children home for the day if they preferred to do so, and counselors were on hand as classes resumed for the afternoon, said district spokesman Norm Uhl.



"Although the danger is over, that doesn't make it any less frightening," Uhl said.



Most parents who were picking up their children after the shooting said that overall, Ross is a good school and there haven't been similar problems.



While some said it's not the fault of the school and the responsibility for what happened falls on the parents of the child who brought the gun to school, other parents said that the incident has made them think twice about safety and they wonder if additional security measures, including extra officers and even metal detectors, are needed.



"Being that this is an elementary school you would think that it would be safe, but now this makes you think nothing is safe," said Shawn Dixon, 33, whose 10-year-old daughter Tyra is third-grader at the school.



Dixon said he would be in favor of additional security measures such as metal detectors at the school, which has about 471 students.



Vonetta Moffett, 35, who has a 10 year old son and a 12-year-old son at the school, said even though she thinks the blame lies with the parents, she believes some kind of extra security is needed.



"The parents need to be more concerned about checking backpacks before their kids leave home. It's the parents' fault because the kids don't know better," said Moffett, a security officer at a medical building.



Sarabia said extra security officers will be at the school on Wednesday and district officials will be working with parents and the community to address any concerns they might have.



Uhl said that the kindergartner could face disciplinary action including being sent to an alternative school for up to 180 days. He said that no punishment has been decided yet.

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Tara - posted on 04/20/2011

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This is a story about a kid in kindergarten right? Cause it reads like any story about any gun in any place a gun shouldn't be.
And people say there isn't a gun problem in the US.
I'm astonished about how lightly this seems to be being taken by everyone.
And security guards and police and metal detectors at an elementary school? Holy Police State Batman!
It's the beginning of the end of the public education system in the Good ole US. It is now just becoming prep school for prison. Prep school for an ever increasing fascist state where the ruling forces use force and intimidation to ensure compliance. Where your "rights" to freedom are stripped in the name of national security. But who are you protecting yourself from? Where is the enemy? Behind closed doors making policies that ensure a life long supply of prisoners for their very profitable prison system.
Sickening that this happens in a so called civilized society. Parents? Teachers? Who is to blame? Complacency is what is to blame. Complacency about a society that inherently breeds crime and discontent and sees life as a fight against everything and everybody.
Sad sad state of affairs.

Lady Heather - posted on 04/20/2011

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This is just insane. You know what - everybody here has a gun. Well. not everybody. But at least most people do. Everyone I know has a hunter in the family. It's just normal here. But we don't have all these problems. Kids don't bring guns to school. There aren't crazy shootings all the time (unless you count the gangs who are using illegal weapons from the US, and it's hardly very often). We don't need metal detectors at the school. So what is the difference? I guess most of our guns are long guns, but still - there aren't any accidents at home or anything. We freaking lock them up. I just want to know why we can accomplish this but it would appear that many of neighbours to the south cannot. I'm not saying there's no gun crime in Canada. It's just with the high concentration here and the anti-gun rhetoric out there you'd certainly think we'd have tons of incidents here, but we don't.

Is it just that much easier to access firearms so totally irresponsible people can have them?

Jenni - posted on 04/20/2011

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And hand guns are meant for protection.
Of who exactly?
Gun related deaths are comparable to automobile deaths in the US. That's scary.
Again... *who* are they protecting? I wonder how many of those numbers of gun related deaths involved the death of a 'bad guy'. How many innocents have to die to justify the banning of hand guns? How much innocent blood is worth the right to protect yourself from a 'potential' dangerous situation.

ME - posted on 04/20/2011

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This is exactly the reason that there will never be a gun in my home...I wish all people were half as reasonable.

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I'm all for having a gun...but I am more for making sure the gun is 1.) NOT TO BE SHOWN AND PARADED AROUND A CHILD!! UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES...ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE NOT USING IT TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY AND 2.) PUTTING IT IN A PLACE WHERE IT ABSOLUTELY CANNOT BE REACHED...UNLOCKED (from the place it's in)...OR TAKEN OUT OF ANYTHING...Having a gun is not the problem...making sure that a child is capable of getting to it is the problem...and in saying that...THE PARENTS should be held responsible 100%...And finding out why that kid decided to bring the gun to school should be priority...because there has to be a reason...whether it's as simple as he was just showing it off...or he has a bully and he thought the gun would help him against it...either way..sending the kid to a behavioral school does not seem like it will help anything...More protection action needs to be taken....because right now...it seems to be being taken lightly which is not a good thing!

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Jane - posted on 05/24/2011

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This happened in one of our local elementary schools a few years ago. One of the problems is that all kids are required to go to school, but that doesn't mean their parents know how to parent, or sometimes even want to parent. Remember, even thugs and gang members often have kids and those kids go to school.

In a good parental environment the gun wouldn't have been out anywhere that the child could get his hands on it. It wouldn't have been loaded, and the parents would know precisely what the child had in his pockets and backpack before he left home. But as you know, not all parents are able to parent like that.

In addition, you don't always know what your kids can get their hands on at other people's houses. My son got in trouble in school for bringing an unfired bullet to school. Our neighbor at the time was a policeman who made a point of locking up his guns and ammo, but he didn't realize how smart children are. His 5 yo knew the combination to both the gun safe and the ammo box. He gave my son a bullet which my son hid as he knew he shouldn't have it. It slipped through my net because I knew we didn't have any guns or ammo in our house, it was small, and because my son hid it. So he got suspended for a day.

I do think sending the kindergartner to alternative school is not going to solve this problem. I would prefer to see someone check out the child's home life to see how he got his hands on a gun. At the very least his parents might need to pass a gun safety course. At worst, perhaps CPS needs to step in and teach folks how to parent. The child also needs gun training that consists primarily of teaching him that you never, ever pick up a gun, no matter who it belongs to. Thanks to TV, a lot of kids think guns are "cool" and will often pick them up out of curiosity. Every year someone in our town dies because of that. Sometimes they are kids and sometimes they are older, but none of them understand how dangerous a gun can be.

I don't know what happened with the parents of the local boy, but I do know that the district installed metal detectors in that school in that it happens to be in an area with lots of gang activity. In other neighborhoods the district might not have made that call.

Perhaps there is something else the district needs to do in our town: do a better job of educating teens so they don't become parents before they are mature enough to do the job well. Do a better job so teens can get decent jobs and don't see illegal activities as a way to support themselves. Do a better job so parents will never, ever leave a gun where a child can find it.

As long as we defend our right to bear arms, we also need to take responsibility for those arms so they are never, ever used in the wrong way. I wish folks would understand that!

Amanda - posted on 05/24/2011

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I agree with Jersey Felix. having a gun is not the problem. the parents have to make sure it is put away unloaded where the children can not get it. Our daughter knows that if she sees a gun that she is not to touch it at all. and if she does she will be spanked. My husband has showed her a gun and told her what it does. We only have one for family protection.

Johnny - posted on 04/20/2011

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What is wrong with these people? I don't understand how everyone can continue to be so cavalier and pro-gun. I guess I'm expecting some actual thinking to be taking place amongst people who have repeatedly demonstrated no abilities in that area.

JuLeah - posted on 04/20/2011

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Punish the kid??? Why??? Punish the parents' they are the dummies who keep loaded gun where their six year old can get ahold of them. They are the ones who sent the message to him that guns are cool and he ought to carry one.

Firebird - posted on 04/20/2011

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Man, an elementary school doesn't need metal detectors but that kid's family does need a visit from CPS. That kid could have accidentally killed himself and others.

Veronique - posted on 04/20/2011

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Yeah i heard that on the news last night! Jeez, it's never safe for kids doesn't matter what grade they're in. I know the child did not intended for it to go off but it did and other kids incling him go hurt, no bad mind you but still it shouldn't have happen. See that's what happens when parents keep guns unlock in the house and that they don't explain de gun rules properly. I personally would not allow any guns in my home but that's just me, plus i live in Canada and our laws are a lot more different then the ones in the US

Bonnie - posted on 04/20/2011

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I keep shaking my head in disbelief that i'm reading this incorrectly. This is insane. Those kids are going to have nightmares for a very long time. I also don't understand how sending the child to another school for that period of time is going to do anything. The child is not going to learn his lesson that way.

Nikki - posted on 04/20/2011

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OMG, this is completely insane. For god sake, for one of the most progressive countries in the world why the hell has the gun control law not been changed!! Of course there is a fucking precedent to change it, kids keep dying! How many people have to die before the government pulls their head from out their arse and does something. When will people learn.



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I am aware no one died in this instant, but that's not my point. Children should not have access to firearms.

Tah - posted on 04/20/2011

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this scares me as rylans pre-k graduation is coming and he will be 5 soon and headed to kindergarten next year, i mean geez louis. I already worry about my kids in elementary and middle school because with bullying the way it is who knows when the next kid will be fed up and find the key to daddys lock box and head to the school for a massacre, now i have to worry that one of Rylans classmates in K is gonna climb to the top of daddys closet and do the same...goodness me...and lunch at 1030 am....am the only one that bothers...lol...(i have to laugh because this is too sad)

Tracey - posted on 04/20/2011

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Don't see how sending the child to another school for 6 months is going to solve anything but I would bring charges against the gun owner. Lucky no-one was killed.

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