Breastfeeding or Formula Feeding...

Momof1 - posted on 05/23/2011 ( 184 moms have responded )

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So this isn't really a question, but a semi rant.



I am 100% pro breastfeeding. I breastfed until my son was 13.5 months and wish I did it longer. And that is where my rant starts. Most breastfeeding moms are not judgmental of formula feeding moms. It annoys me when a study comes out showing more reasons that breastfeeding is best and formula feeding moms knock it. But then again, it annoys me when I see breastfeeding moms knocking formula feeding moms.



If moms have all done their research we should all know that breastfeeding is best, plain and simple. Formula was made to obviously make money, but formula is the only other option for women who cannot/choose not to breastfeed. Technically there is a third option, using donated milk, but I know that is expensive, unfortunately. So there are only 2 options and breastfeeding is the best option. Some formula moms act like formula is better then breast milk, so when that happens, of course I get annoyed. Or when those women put down new research showing that breastfeeding is best.



If you are comfortable in your decision to formula feed, then you shouldn't feel bad/threatened or like a bad mother when you see the research. Read it and move on. If you do feel bad, then breastfeed your next kid. While I agree breast is best, formula isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but it is the only other choice and it is and should be a woman's second choice only if she cannot breastfeed. There are women who breastfeed and do, women who cannot produce milk (only about 1%-2% from what I learned in nursing school), women who can but think they can't and they don't seek help, women who did not produce milk with their first who think they won't with their second and that usually isn't true and women who just refuse to. I feel like refusing to breastfeed is wrong (sorry, I know that is a judgement) but I don't think you are a bad parent. My sister didn't breastfeed her two at all and they are healthy, healthy weights and happy kids. My friend breast fed one for six weeks, but her milk supply was very low, so it was formula for the rest of the year and with her son she didn't breastfeed to long before switching to formula. She is one of if not the best moms I know. Her kids are happy and growing amazingly. They do have plenty of sicknesses, but that can be attributed to going to daycare, not because they weren't breastfed. Then I have a friend who breastfed, but had to supplement with formula. Her son is happy and healthy as well. So as of this moment, I am the only person I know (out of my friends) that has breastfeed exclusively for the full year, plus. I don't think that makes me a better mother, it is just what felt natural to me.



There, I edited it. That's what it was supposed to say. All I started this thread for was that I was annoyed about the "bullying" that goes with breastfeeding moms vs. formula feeding moms. As I said, I just got a little type happy.

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Jodi - posted on 05/24/2011

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At this point, I would like to add a disclaimer....
Mel does not represent all Australians, or the knowledge all Australians are given by their doctor/health nurse. Just needed to put that out there :P

Krista - posted on 05/25/2011

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but yes obviously I meant breast fed babies usualy get constipated for a few months in the trasition period from just breast milk to solids, due to the fact that they are not used to having less fluids so giving them extra water will help until they are adjusted.

Gaaah! You're doing it AGAIN, though! That's NOT what your source says. It does NOT say that breast fed babies usually get constipated. By saying it that way, you're implying that MOST breast fed babies will wind up with constipation.

And that's not the case. And that's NOT what your source says.

Sarah - posted on 05/24/2011

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See, that's the one statement in the whole breast vs bottle debate that REALLY winds me up.
I don't care that breastfed babies may have a higher IQ, a better immune system or any of that stuff.......but what I cannot stand is when people make out that women who bottle feed aren't as bonded to their kids.

It's bullshit plain and simple.

Tara - posted on 05/24/2011

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@Mel
"....Formula fed babies have also been known to meet milestones quicker due to being bigger. ..."

"You can;t bond the same with a formula fed baby to breast fed I dont care what anyone says."

"...Another down side ot breast feeding is that breast fed babies often have trouble when solids are introduced to their diet due to breast milk being so easily digested, where as formula babies are generally fine,..."

There are so many things wrong with your post.

Formula fed infants DO NOT hit their milestones earlier because they are bigger. If there is any difference in when babies hit those milestones it is negligible and would be in favour of breastfed infants not formula fed infants.

That's unfortunate that you weren't able to bond as well to your ff infant as to you bf infant, that's a shame and I feel bad for your poor formula fed baby who didn't get the same kind of love and bonding, all cause *your* nipple wasn't in her mouth. Crap on a stick. Bonding is about touch, skin contact, eye contact, facial mimicking and love. It isn't about breastmilk and formula. This would suggest that all dads in the world have a crappy bond with their children.

Babies who are breastfed do NOT have more problems with solids. Babies who are breastfed usually have less problems, usually because we (generally breastfeeding we here) wait until 4- closer to 6 months to introduce them, because we know breastmilk is ALL they need until 6 months. By then most babies have a superior digestive system, full of wonderful things called "gut flora" that assist in the metabolizing of food.

PLEASE stop spouting inaccurate "facts" about breastfeeding, some newbies might be reading and what you post about breastfeeding is almost always WRONG.
Again Mel, ignorance is bliss knowledge is power, either become knowledgeable or stay ignorant but don't try coming across as correct and factual about breastfeeding cause you're not.

Krista - posted on 05/24/2011

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@Elizabeth and Jeannette: Oh yeah, we've had some real doozies on here. On more than one occasion, we've had people tell us that:

1. Formula should only be available via doctor's prescription, and only for those mothers who REALLY "need" it.
2. That formula-fed babies don't bond anywhere near as well with their mothers.
3. That formula-feeding moms are poisoning their babies with chemical crap because they are too lazy or selfish to breastfeed.
4. That formula will result in our children becoming sickly, fat and stupid.
5. That mothers who couldn't breastfeed just obviously didn't "want it badly enough."
6. That the ONLY possibly valid reason to not breastfeed is if you have had breast surgeries.

I could go on, but you get the gist.

And yes, some equally offensive statements have been leveled at breast-feeding moms. There are extremists on both sides of the issue.

And it does tend to quickly and easily become VERY personal and VERY heated. Why? Because we are talking about our most basic, fundamental jobs as mothers: nourishing our children. And anytime anybody calls into question a mother's ability/skills/willingness to provide that most basic form of nurturing, that mother's hackles are going to rise higher than heck.

That's why any breast vs. bottle topic tends to quickly get a bit...intense.

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I think the issues of breastfeeding/ formula feeding is like all those other 'hot' parental topics- no one's business but the parents of the child (unless there are OBVIOUS safety issues of course)

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I never had anyone criticise me for bottle feeding but I had people blaming breastfeeding for every single problem I had when Logan was a tiny baby. If he was crying, "You don't have enough breastmilk to satisfy him.... put him on the bottle". If he woke up through the night "Put him on the bottle it fills them up for longer". And a whole host of other reasons why formula feeding was better than breast.



Emma, this was my experience as well. It was extremely frustrating and demoralizing. I guess I was expecting encouragement since I only have one milk-producing breast (due to cancer), but all I got was a lot of rubbish about how I wouldn't make enough milk, how formula would "satisfy" my baby more (seriously, why should it?), or how great it is to know "how much they're getting" (what the heck for?).



People seem to bend over backwards to make sure formula-feeding mothers don't feel any guilt for not breastfeeding, but I didn't get a lot of support for wanting to breastfeed my

son, when I needed it the most. I had to come online (breastfeeding advocacy sites/forums) for that.



And now that my son is 8mo, all anyone says to me is, is he eating a lot "yet" and how he "needs" juice or formula now that he's older.



I guess that's what I get for wanting/expecting a pat on the back for doing with one breast what some women won't even try with two.



And no, I don't think there's anything wrong with formula or any individual mother giving formula. But the culture as a whole is not pro-breastfeeding. Not that I can see anyway.



And yes, I'm a bit bitter about it. I feel like I was undermined and made to doubt my instincts for wanting the best thing for my son and myself (breastfeeding reduces the risk of recurrence).

Sarah - posted on 05/25/2011

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I just want to address this "real world" stuff that is being said. I don't really understand what that means because to me everything that is real is the "real world." So, if I come on here and there is yet another thread about how "breast is best" that is "real world" to me because COM is real. Did that make sense? (I'm not saying that this thread was one of those threads, because in fact I found it pretty nonjudgmental compared to some others). But yes, I think the judgment stuff happens elsewhere too. When I switched my daughter to formula (for many reasons that I won't go into), I got it from all angles, nurses at the peds office (in person and on the phone countless times), my mother-in-law, friends. I also believe that bf mothers catch too much flack sometimes as well especially if a mother chooses to go past a year, so it goes both ways. I say kudos to any mom who can make it past a year!! But for me it wasn't possible. Breast is NOT best when mommy is so overwhelmed and wracked with guilt, that she can't enjoy and tend to her baby properly. Feeding my daughter formula made me a better mommy because I wasn't disgusted with my failure all day everyday.

Charlie - posted on 05/25/2011

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Well my first born only became constipated when he was started on formula ( long after he started solids ) My second born didnt do a shit for 20 DAYS when he was being exclusively breastfed I consulted not one Doctor but Two AND a midwife plus I did my own research and rang the ABA ( Australian Breastfeeding assoc ) all of whom said a breastfed baby does not really need to poo all the time and that in some cases they dont poo for quiet a while due to open gut and all the goodness from the breast milk being "soaked up " guess what happened when we started him on solids ?
He shit three times a day , everyday no constipation in sight .

Jodi - posted on 05/25/2011

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You're right Tah. I'd say what she POSSIBLY meant is that a nurse shouldn't pass judgements on a person's choice to breastfeed or not :) Basically, if she doesn't agree with the choice, she should STFU if she can't be encouraging and positive. No point making a new mother feel bad about that choice when she has so much to learn and deal with. Sure, provide unbiased information, answer questions factually, but don't judge. That's not a nurse's job.

Mel - posted on 05/25/2011

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yes she was...what can I do to unconfuse you lol? Im aware Im not always good at writing what I mean, but I do my best. TBH her whole situation was confusing so when people ask I simply say she had FTT, which isnt a lie but there was alot more in depth reasons for it. You can always PM me Ill answer anything if Im confusing you. Since I dont like making these threads all about me and my kids....feel like I always do that unintentionally

Tah - posted on 05/25/2011

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Hey now Laura with that nurse shouldn't talk stuff...some nurses suck..like some librarians, and some cashiers and some sahms so on and so forth. No they shouldn't bully but judge but I would hope they are the minority.

Jenn - posted on 05/25/2011

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So the baby that was tube fed was the one that was constipated for 2 years? I feel like I'm always asking you the same questions and it doesn't seem like I get answers that make sense. Perhaps if I knew the whole story, I'd finally go "ahhhh - now it makes sense". In the meantime I'm still confused.

Mel - posted on 05/25/2011

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oh yeah Jenn first baby there was a reason (I am guessing this is the reason) the tube feeding but they just used to run prune juice or parachoc through her tube in the night feedings worked a charm. Yeah it was constipation she used to get cut like my younger girl. Shes pretty good now just have to give her osme fibresure every now and again, as long as she eats enough shes good I find when she eats little for a few days she gets blocked up. Bub #2 Ive just taken off osmolax

Jenn - posted on 05/25/2011

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3 breastfed babies here and never any constipation. It is NOT true that "most" or "many" breastfed babies become constipated upon introduction of solids. 2 years of constipation baffles me - was there a medical reason? Or was it not really constipation?

Mel - posted on 05/25/2011

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Im the same Marina I know the signs and start using treatments right away, so they get unblocked. I let my second baby go a week when she started solids...I always thought breast fed babies NEVER got consttipated so when I rang health direct and they told me otherwise I was like crap she's going to be really blocked up now, I would have liked to be given this knowledge so I definately share this info with other mummies. I know better for any future children I may have :) Still breast feeding all the way for me though. I never ever imagined to be able to make it this long 10 months is a long time for me

Merry - posted on 05/25/2011

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Yeah they can really influence some moms, and dads! The. Nurses at our hospital had matt convinced that if I fell asleep holding Eric he would die, just hat easy. Sucked cuz I got less sleep because I was so worked up about not killing him if I dozed off.

Jodi - posted on 05/25/2011

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I know Laura. If I'd been the more confident mum I am now, and not a first timer, I probably would have made a formal complaint about it, because they shouldn't be permitted to pass judgements on new mothers like that. It's cruel. As I said, I was confident with my choice, and I didn't feel guilty about it at all, but I was also 28 years old at the time. If I had been a younger mother, I may have felt intimidated by that, and that simply isn't right.

Merry - posted on 05/25/2011

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Jodi that's awful! That nurse should have been congratulating you for wanting to even do 6 weeks! Many women I know say if they cant go past 6 weeks why bother at all. 6 weeks is the hardest time anyways, any mom willing to do it should be encouraged. Darn nurses. My nurses just went on and on about how painful it is and scaring me about how much babies bite when teething etc. Nurses should just not talk IMO :)

Jodi - posted on 05/25/2011

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Oh, and yes, I was criticised by the nurse in the hospital when I had my oldest because I mentioned I was going back to work in 6 weeks so I would probably have to end up formula feeding, but wanted to at least breastfeed for the first 6 weeks. You have no idea how she tried to bully me over that. It is a sad state of affairs when even employees in the healthcare system try to make us feel guilty for not breastfeeding. I actually enjoyed breastfeeding, but when I went back to work, which included 8 hour days plus 2 hours of travel, and I had nowhere to pump during the day, my milk disappeared anyway. I wanted to keep up a morning and evening feed, but it just didn't work out. And yes, I told the nurse what she could do with her advice, and that she had no right to try to make me feel bad about the choices I had to make for my family.

Jodi - posted on 05/25/2011

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"Feed your baby mud, not so good."

Ah crap,l I'm screwed then, because from the time my kids could walk they ate dirt and mud if they could get their hands on it :\

About the criticism, it has been going on forever. My mum had a *friend* who was a militant breastfeeding *Nazi*, and when my mum had one of my younger brothers, she was unable to breastfeed him. She tried and tried, but he was losing weight, so she put him on formula. This so called *friend* of hers berated her and told her "everyone can breastfeed, you didn't try hard enough". My mum said she felt so hurt and upset and GUILTY. This was 35 years ago.

That same friend phoned up a few years later and apologised profusely to mum - she had another child, and her milk never came in. She then realised how very wrong she had been to criticise ANY mother for not being able to produce the milk for her baby. But my mum was forever hurt by that.

Stifler's - posted on 05/25/2011

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I never had anyone criticise me for bottle feeding but I had people blaming breastfeeding for every single problem I had when Logan was a tiny baby. If he was crying, "You don't have enough breastmilk to satisfy him.... put him on the bottle". If he woke up through the night "Put him on the bottle it fills them up for longer". And a whole host of other reasons why formula feeding was better than breast.

Merry - posted on 05/25/2011

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In real life ive never had a bad comment about nursing my son, 0-24 months so far! I nurse hum in public alot and I don't use a cover. I'm not really showing much skin, but still. Not one bad comment not one angry look. Nothing! And I, since coming on here, have started subtly watching as people pass and still no weird looks. Now I have gotten one smile, one smile with a thumbs up, and one woman come over and actually congratulate me on nursing a toddler in public!
So idk, I haven't gotten any negativity in the real world except from family.
My family did care for foster babies when I was small, we had 25 babies throughout my childhood, all formula fed. I don't remember my mom or dad or myself getting any negative comments in public and we went many many places with the babies as we were a seriously active family :)
So idk, maybe Wisconsin is just a tolerant state with a bunch of farmers who don't care who babies get fed,...or maybe I'm just lucky so far!

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I was kind of wondering if we get most of the criticism from here and then kind of project it onto the real world. I know I certainly got more conscious about what people might think after reading words like disgusting, gross, unnatural, child abuse etc. here. I guess it's just so easy and nicely unpersonal to give someone grief over the internet, from either side that is.

Tah - posted on 05/25/2011

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Well daniel a, I never ever heard of it until joined this place. There are several breastfeeding Nazis out there and they all come out to play, along with them are all the women like Amy who come out and say, yes I was treated horribly and made to feel like crap which let's me know it happens more frequently then we would like to admit

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A bit off-topic, but I thought I'll ask anyway. I'm just wondering if I'm a little sheltered or something. Is it really that harsh out there in the real world? I know precisely two formula-feeding moms who ever got shit over how they fed their babies, and both from only one person. Funnily enough, one had actually exlusively bf til 6 months and decided to wean, and the other supplemented early on due to low supply - and yes, she really did try to increase it. I on the other hand know that there are plenty of people out there who don't agree with me nursing a toddler, and I have gotten some not so nice remarks at times (expecting it to get worse as time passes), but generally people don't really say anything, because they know it's not their place and as long as they just think it, I don't care. When I look at the low breastfeeding rates all around, I'm just wondering - where do all these super-extreme people come from? I'm not talking the internet now, but the real world. Are we all talking ourselves in a rage here over stuff that really isn't all that common out there after all? Not saying it's not hurtful when it does happen, but commonly and all the time? Really?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/25/2011

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My daughter may not have had full fledged constipation simply because I knew the signs of it by then, and I knew how to rectify it.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 05/25/2011

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I am gonna have to back Mel up for a moment here. Both my babies were BF...when I introduced solids to them.....they did both have issues with pooping. My son definately got constipated, my daughter just had some difficulties...I would not say full constipation like my son though. I added prunes and plain yogurt to their diet, and it corrected the situation.

Lucy - posted on 05/25/2011

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Feed your baby breastmilk and they thrive, do well in all things and have happy healthy lives. Feed your baby formula and they thrive, do well in all things and have happy healthy lives.
Feed your baby mud, not so good.

Anyhow, both my babies were and are formula fed, not my immediate choice but one I made through circumstance. They both got the 'good shit' or colostrum through squeezing, pumping and sheer persistence but that is where it ended.
I was forced to try breastfeeding within 5 mins of having c-sections at both my babies births and when the babies didn't want to take they were given formula so their blood could be tested for their glucose levels. The major factor for my choice was my babies, once they had been given a taste of formula they were not interested in my boobs anymore.
I was quite devastated when I failed to breastfeed my daughter and it took me months to get over it in part because of my own expectations but also because of they very judgemental attitudes of others.
With my son I did try breastfeeding but knew I would be happier and a less stressed mummy using formula, my husband also got really involved, I got more sleep and everyone was happy.
If your baby is healthy and happy then formula is a good substitute no matter what the bloody world health organisation says.
It wasn't my first choice but it was the best choice I could make at the time under my personal circumstances. I don't feel guilt or shame just happy that I live in an age where there is another choice other than letting my babies starve.
I hope that answered the question?

Jaime - posted on 05/25/2011

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So, since we're moving on and everyone seems content with their choice to either ff or bf can we all hold hands and skip now?

Mel - posted on 05/25/2011

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thanks tara but I think Ill go by the actual facts first =). Krista, yeah it is most, like I said I talked to my child health nurse today. Tara I do know that ff babies batle constipation for longer periods of time generally, my first daughter had problems for nearly 2 yrs straight nothing worked, however breast fed babies do generally only have it for a few months after the introduction of solids, according to my child health nurse, so yeah that does sure beat a few yrs, however I found my second daughter being breast fed has more severe constipation, harder to treat. Anyhow like I said moving on.

April - posted on 05/25/2011

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I breastfed my son from birth and we are still going strong at 2 and half. For me, it wasn't a matter of doing the proper research. I just went with my gut. It felt like the right thing to do when I first introduced the breast at a few hours old and it still feels like the right thing to do today. For the record, breast isn't best, it is normal. Even nursing a toddler is normal. :)

Tania - posted on 05/25/2011

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Well thank goodness I get a pass from some extreme pro breastfeeders because I can't due to meds....but those poor women who don' breastfeed because they *gasp* don't want to somehow have to justify it? whatevs

Tara - posted on 05/25/2011

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Umm I never said anything was BS. I said that breastfed babies have a wonderful belly full of gut flora and that actually assists them with the into of solid food.

Some bf babies will become constipated, but by and large, ff babies have more issues with constipation than bf babies. And bf babies don't normally become constipated at the intro of solid foods. There are exceptions to the rules. And btw, early intro to solids is the leading cause of constipation among breast fed AND formula fed infants, second only to too much iron in their diet.

So.... no it's not the norm for bf babies to become constipated when you intro solid food.



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When you intro solid food at an appropriate age.

Breastfed babies don't normally become constipated when the intro of solids is delayed until 6 months of age. When constipation is present in a younger than 6 month breast fed baby, early intro to solids can be the cause.

Mel - posted on 05/25/2011

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I thought I made myself clear in what I said, but yes obviously I meant breast fed babies usualy get constipated for a few months in the trasition period from just breast milk to solids, due to the fact that they are not used to having less fluids so giving them extra water will help until they are adjusted. What botehred me was that Tara said that it was total BS amongst other things. Anyhow moving on

Krista - posted on 05/25/2011

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I also double checked with her about the breast feeding/constipation issue

Mel, my issue with what you were saying was that you misrepresented what you read.

The article said clearly that breastfed babies can be more prone to constipation, due to the adjustment period. Fair enough. That makes sense. So for example, if 5% of all babies transitioning to solids experience constipation, the odds are that breastfeeding babies will be a bit more likely to fall into that 5%. Right? Right.

The way you wrote it, you said that breastfed babies OFTEN get constipation. So by saying it the way you did, you made it sound as though the MAJORITY of breastfed babies will have trouble with constipation. And that is not the case, nor is it what your article said.

So when you state these things as irrefutable fact, you really need to make sure that you are accurately relaying the information that you have heard or read. Because in the above case, there's a big difference between what you read and what you said. I don't mean it as a personal criticism -- it's just something that might help you a bit in these debates.

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Please, let's not turn this into another delaying solids/constipation debate ;) All I can say is things must be VERY different (read 'behind') in WA if you are accurately interpreting your health professional's advice, Mel.

As for the OP, I didn't take offence to it (I BF and FF my daughter). I think her point about being comfortable with your decision is a good one. If you are happy and satisfied with your choice, something someone else says on the Internet shouldn't matter. I understand that having our commitment to our child questioned is just about the worst thing anyone could say to us. But really, if I know it doesn't apply to me and my life, I have no reason to react or get defensive.

Kellie - posted on 05/24/2011

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argh delaying solids until when??

Sorry off topic i know but i'm curious as to how 'delayed' this solid food really is.

Now what was the topic at hand again? oh yes I'm a bad bad Mummy who can't bond with my daughter because my boobies don't work....

Carry on.

Hehe

Lady Heather - posted on 05/24/2011

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This obviously went bananas so I'll just say my piece and move on. You acknowledge there are mothers who "can't" breastfeed. But we shouldn't be offended by anything because we should feel comfortable with our "choice" or breastfeed. I find it very hard to feel comfortable with a choice I didn't make. I would have paid out of my ass to have donated milk, but you can't even get it here. I know you aren't meaning to be nasty because you seem very well-intentioned, but I just thought I'd say that some of us are defensive because we didn't get a choice and people make us feel like crap about our supposed choice all the freaking time. I'm sure one day I'll get over it. Hopefully I can feed the next one. I'm sure that would help.

Kylie - posted on 05/24/2011

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Well my kids must be Aussie freaks of nature. I "delayed" solids and they have no allergies or constipation. I'd like to have a chat with this health nurse, can you PM me her name Mel?

Kellie - posted on 05/24/2011

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delaying solids until when? if you've stated that before I missed it behind your confusing posts.

Mel - posted on 05/24/2011

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so some of the responses really got to me on here my child health nurse came today I told her how I was constantly being shut down and queried her about a few things she definately said shes done many courses and all the research shows that things like delaying solids is dangerous and that its also been linked to allergies, and I also double checked with her about the breast feeding/constipation issue she said what she meant was that breast fed babies yes thier gut is set up to handle solids beter long term however its the trasition period that causes breast fed babies to become constipated it takes them a while to go normally again because their bodies are used to breast milk being is easily digested. These were the only 2 things I asked her about, she seemed to think that the tings told to me were quite dangerous and wrong. SO yes I am going to stick to what I know from the child health professionals! Please dont try putting me down and outright saying I am wrong in the future

Jaime - posted on 05/24/2011

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Sometimes when we debate, we all hold hands and skip...and sometimes when we debate, we throw down the gloves and take turns jerseying one another....it's how we fucking roll!

Tah - posted on 05/24/2011

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I said it was no ones business, and I said alot of others things as well explaining why I said it, if people don't like my responses, o well, there is a little button they can click. People like laurabeth are why I get so riled up. She was made to feel like crap because she had to ff her children and she shouldn't be made to feel that way by people who feel they get to choose how everyone else feeds their child, it is not their business and doesn't include nor affect them.like Stephanie Cooper who says she has a hard time with people who can but choose not to because she herself had issues with it. Maybe her issue is that she's jealous of those who can but don't, or maybe she fancies herself a better mother, more unselfish or whatever, but why would she have to have an issue with how someone else feeds their child? Why does it matter to her so much? Why would she want to make some poor mom perusing this sight who may formula feed feel less of a mother or like her choice is not as good? I don't get it, really and truly.

LauraBeth - posted on 05/24/2011

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Correction I didnt catch in flack from this group but from Circle of Moms in general

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I had a very rough long trauma filled labor that ended in a emer. Csec with my first and the milk hardly came in, I tried and tried after many visits with a lactation speaclist she said I had to supplement. with my sec. I knew I had to have a Csec. I was trilled that I was going to get another chance with being sucessful on BF. I wasnt so lucky she kept refuseing me, only eat for a min, I ate only the best. and she is now on a soy sensitive formula, I tried my hardest to breastfeed, and I have been made to feel like that was never good enough and that I was horrible for having introduce formula at all, I catch most of my flack from this site.



I will say this however Breastmilk isnt always best if you sit around and eat crap, processed food, drink milk with growth hormones and consume meat with additives and growth hormones, it would be like giving your newborn nothing but crap in a boob, your milk is what you eat.



So that is what I tell mothers now that down me for formula feeding while they are pigging out on hoho's and ding dong while sucking down a diet coke trying to tell me that their milk is SO MUCH BETTER, I am like okay why dont you dish up obesity and diabetes to your kid while you are at it. I mean come on!!! I would agree with you that Breastmilk is best but only when you eat right!!!!!

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I agree with where your coming from! I tried with my first to exclusively breastfeed but had difficulties, my daughter wouldn on latch onto the left and so my right got engorgged! it was painful, I pumped for 2 months and when I got a clugged milk duct that was the final straw! I didnt really have any other painful experiences while my daughter was feeding! I felt like a failure when I had to pump and was not to thrilled about bonding with her. I have decided that with my second child, due in 10 weeks, I am going to try harder to keep at the breastfeeding, I have a hard time with parents who have the capability and time to breastfed but just chose not to! Kudos to the 13.5 months with breastfeeding!!! and good luck in the future!!

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I wasn't suggesting that at all. My post reads "responding that it's no-ones business is also an answer and an opinon, and it isn't sarcastic or uncivilised :\ " No mention of my posts there, and no mention of anyones. Just stating the obvious - that we are all entitled to our opinions, and saying it is noone else's business is an opinion too.

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I never said ANY thing you wrote was either sarcastic or uncivilized. I was referring to some earlier post but I don't believe I mentioned anyones name or copied and pasted anyones comments.

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Yeah, I do to.......BUT responding that it's no-ones business is also an answer and an opinon, and it isn't sarcastic or uncivilised :\

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