Bully fights back. Who is wrong?

Mel - posted on 03/15/2011 ( 65 moms have responded )

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What do you think of this, I havent watched this clip but heard everywhere the boy who has been bullied for 4 years is being done for assault when he was pretty much only defending himself. I think its wrong. The other kid is the one who started it.



http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8224...

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Jodi - posted on 03/15/2011

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I admire that the bigger kid, once he snapped that once, he walked away and didn't continue the violence. I was pretty impressed that he had that much control.

Katelyn - posted on 04/18/2011

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I am very opinionated about this. The bully antagonized the poor kid more than what this video could ever show. This was premeditated! He had his friends record it. He knew exactly what he was getting into. He just never expected the kid to finally crack and retaliate. The bully got his ass handed to him and still laughed about it because he was being recorded and in front of his friends. If this was my son I'd be proud that he stood up for himself. From the time our children our little we pound into their heads to stand up for yourself and what you believe in. Well here's a prime example of someone finally sticking up for himself and still being punished. No, violence isn't the answer to all our problems, but if no one else is going to step up or step in when there is a problem then so be it. I think the bully is a snot and when he went on tv during an interview it was disturbing how he tried to make everyone feel bad for him. Well, I don't. In fact, I think he deserved more than what he got, but thats my opinion.

Corena - posted on 03/18/2011

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I have a daughter, now 17, who was bullied all through elementary school. She did go to teachers and us. We did continuously go to the school about it. They would "reprimand" or suspend the people doing it and then it would just start all over again. Nothing she or we did actually changed anything. She would always walk away, or try to. Eventually enough is enough.
In grade seven they attacked her on her way home from school. She had finally had enough and fought back this time. She still got beat up, she's not very strong, but her self esteem went through the roof. Simply from finally standing up for herself. We congratulated her.
The teachers at school did find out about it, because one of the kids recorded it on her cell phone and was showing it at school. They were going to suspend both the bully , the camera operator and my daughter. Her teacher talked to us and said that he felt for her but had told her that fighting back was wrong. We said bullshit! They have been picking on her for years and the school has done nothing effective about it. She absolutely did the right thing and don't you dare tell her it was wrong.
When we talked to the principal we were clear that if she got suspended we were going to the school board and the media and letting them know the WHOLE situation over the years. We also insisted that the bully be expelled...finally. They finally listened to us and my daughter's life completely changed. Not that she still doesn't get picked on sometimes...she does. But, she dies not take it as personally as she did then and she is MUCH more secure in who she is.

In general, we teach our children to walk away. We teach them that violence is not the answer. But the reality is that sometimes, some kids just need to have someone stand up to them physically to get them to stop picking on people. Life is not perfect and sometimes an ass kicking is what is needed.

I think he probably did what needed to be done at that moment. Good job kid!

Erin - posted on 03/17/2011

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@Teresa When I was in school I was bullied, I can say from experience, if you walk away the bullies just follow you and are egged on and make the bulling worse. Bullies enjoy feeling superior to the one they are taunting and they do so until the victim stands up for themselves, which usually just takes once. They almost always just run off.
The kid in the video that was being bullied honestly could have just socked the bully in the nose and that would have been it, but I understand the anger he felt. As a kid who is bullied you are told by teachers and now parents to just "take it" which makes you a punching bag for bullies. I was in school when they stopped the whole fighting back against bullies. Now if you fight back, your generally the one in trouble, not the bully.

Ez - posted on 03/16/2011

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Several FB groups supporting the bullied child have popped up on my news feed tonight. They each have hundreds of thousands of members. The fact he is getting so much support says a lot about how far-reaching bullying is. There are testimonies on the groups' walls from people who were bullied, and congratulating this boy for standing up like they never could.

While I dislike violence, I honestly believe this boy had no other choice. There was no adult around. The other kids sure weren't stepping in to help him.

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Sherri - posted on 08/15/2011

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IMO it is horrible that he was bullied he should have gone to some adult or person in authority way before it got this bad. I am sorry nobody has the right to hit including the child defending himself. I think he should have pushed him away or yelled for help. But no I don't think it was okay for him to be so violent back to that kid. Two wrongs don't make a right. Yes I feel they both should have dealt with the consequences of the hitting and then the bullying dealt with in addition to the fight.

Danielle - posted on 08/15/2011

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I don't think he should have been punished! As a parent of a child that has been bullied I've taught my son to stand up for himself. My rule is never start a fight but if they hit you then they're fair game. If that was MY son I would fight it the entire way. You can't tell me that an adult has never seen that little punk picking on the other boy. Quite frankly I'd be the one being charged with assault b/c I'd go straight to his parents and it wouldn't be pretty.

Rebecca - posted on 08/15/2011

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I think that is disgusting. A kid is bullied for years and is punished for defending himself! Shouldn't someone have found out what had been going on? I just watched the video and, I assume, the smaller kid is the bully and the bigger one is fighting back. Surely, anyone seeing that will see what happened.

Mrs. - posted on 04/18/2011

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Looks like a situation that needed more attention paid to it before this happened. Someone, somewhere ignored the tension between these two. They should be the ones who should feel like shit.

Personally, if it was my kid who fought back, I'd back him. That's just me though.

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Man i got mad when i heard he got suspended and then they were trying to sue him!! so dumb really pisses me off. Im on his side if that were my kid i would want him to do the exact same thing. He would get rewarded not punished in my house. He shouldve done it sooner! If it were my daughter and she wasnt starting it and some little punk ass kid put their hands on her she better kick their ass.

Stifler's - posted on 03/22/2011

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I think this is good. I hope it inspires kids who just take it to stick up for themselves and film it rather than just eventually commiting suicide because they don't want to go to school or have any friends. The skinny kid - I knew a lot of kids like that at school. They just follow kids who walk away or have an even smarter smart arse comeback. All this bullshit about walking away is just that. It's time to get real.

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Erin - the same parents that allow their child to bleach his hair and grow a rats tail...that interview with the bully was appalling interviewer: "are you sorry" bully "no" *looks at father off camera* "yes yes i am sorry" no you're not you little shit

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Casey (the one being bullied) was right to do what he did !!
See how the bully reacted? He didn't expect that to happen. The look on his face was priceless haha. Serves him right!
If my son was being bullied and had to defend himself like this, I'd be proud that he'd faced the bully and shown him what it's like! Good on ya Casey :-)

Jodi - posted on 03/21/2011

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LOL Erin, my husband said the EXACT same thing when we watched his interview last night. He's 12 and has an eyebrow ring? Really? He had bad news written all over him. He wasn't sorry at all.

Ez - posted on 03/21/2011

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Jodi you''re absolutely right. This 12 year old is bad news! No remorse. No eye contact. Blatant lying. If he makes it to 18 without being put in juvenile detention I'll be very surprised.

On a side note, who the hell let's their 12yo get an eyebrow piercing?

Angel - posted on 03/21/2011

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I think that bully got what he deserved!

When I was a kid we were always moving and I would be at a new school every year. Every school was the same, there was always someone who liked to pick on the new kids. The fact that I was very small and quiet made me stand out to the bullies. The out come was always the same. I would walk away but that only works for a little while. Then I would fight back and fight back hard. No one would mess with me after that until I moved to the next school. By the time I got to the 7th grade, I stopped walking away and just fought back immediately.

I think all bullies should get their asses kicked. So right on for that kid!

"The bigger kid could have really hurt the smaller one"...too bad for the smaller kid. He should have thought about that before he decided to pick on someone a lot bigger than him. I doubt anyone else will pick on that kid again.

Erica - posted on 03/21/2011

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Alright, my initial thought when I seen the video was, "Way to go!" But when I seen what he did, I was shocked. I still want to applaud him. Yes he was wrong, in what he actually did, I would have settled for a nice slam in the face. But that skinny kid didn't have much brain if he was going to pick on somebody BIGGER then him. But I also bet that kid got the dose he needed not to bug that bigger kid again!

My brother was a target for bully's, but thankfully he had me :P - I had a big trap, and had NOTHING to back it up. My mom was so shocked I didn't get my butt whooped for just opening my trap. But anyways, my brother was constantly picked on by somebody in his class. It always happened right after school where I wasn't able to actually protect him, and this kid would jump on his back, punch him, kick him, push him into his locker and then run to the bus. Well one day my brother decided to chase after him and jump on his back, well it just so happens that the kids mom was the bus driver. Now like any mother, she jumped and wanted to blame my brother and get him suspended. My brother tried telling them that the kid was harassing him but she wouldn't hear of it. Better believe that my mom was right there, and she was the brick wall in my brothers defense, she made sure that if my brother was going to be suspended then the bully was going to be suspended. Considering that NOBODY could say what was happening in the hallway when there was suppose to be teachers in the hallway watching the kids.
My mom has taught my brother and I, that if we can't get it to stop by 1) telling them to stop, 2.) Telling a teacher or 3.) walking away, you wait for them to throw the first punch, and then you clean their clocks out. And then she would make it perfectly clear that if WE threw the first punch, she would personally clean our clocks out.

Brandi - posted on 03/18/2011

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@Sarah Damn right! The Bully's parents are the ones that need to be apologizing. It would be a cold day in Hell before I would allow my child to be bullied, then apologize for fighting back!! That lady needs to get a life, and teach her son how to act!

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yeah its wrong hes being done for assualt when he fought back and whats worse is that the bully's mum wants casey (the kid being bullied) to apologise. in my opinion the mother should apologise for giving birth to such a nasty boy

Ez - posted on 03/17/2011

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No I'm not saying being 12 absolves him of any responsibility. Just that the vitriol aimed at him on the net this week has crossed the line in some cases. Calling him a little shit and supporting the bullied child for standing up to him is totally understandable (and exactly how I feel). Wishing he had broken his neck and encouraging people to harrass him and his family after posting their address and phone number... not so much.

Vegemite - posted on 03/17/2011

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It doesn't make any difference to me that he's only 12, he'd be 13 before July being in high school. If you don't know by that age it's wrong to randomly punch someone in the face, especially when his mum has obviously taught him it is, then there is some sort of personality problem and he needs to be dealt with. Bullied kid sure did deal with him.

Ez - posted on 03/17/2011

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Well considering it was her son's friends who originally posted it, I hope she is aiming her anger towards them :-/

I will agree the hate speech towards the bully has crossed the line on some of the pages. Whatever he is, and he is clearly a little bastard, he is still only 12.

Jodi - posted on 03/17/2011

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Even the 12 year old's mother came out and said her son deserved it, but she is upset that it ended up online and now there is all this hate speech about him, etc. I can see her point, I think I would be upset about that too.

Vegemite - posted on 03/17/2011

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I watched this a few days ago. I couldn't believe I could be horrified and laugh at the same time. Take that you little prick haha how do you like them apples! Although that weedy little sh*t could have been seriously hurt by being slammed into the concrete like that, then my attitude might be different but he was lucky to get off with a broken ankle. Hopefully next time he goes to bully someone he'll have second thoughts. I do think it's good that they both got suspended but if the bullied kids is being charged for assault then so should the bully.

Krissy - posted on 03/17/2011

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I didn't read all of this, but I did look at several different things online about it. Unless I got my stories mixed, which I don't believe so...

The fifteen year old was said to have aspergers, which is actually what I thought when he was getting hit in the face and didn't even put his hands up really to block the other kid.

If that's true, then I 100% believe that the younger kid was old enough to know he was being a lil *&%*# @ to be picking on and hitting a child with a disability.

While even with Aspbergers, he needs to know it's not ok to throw some one, and suspending them both is really the only choice here... I honestly think that the younger boy needed a REALLY clear talking to and maybe even extra discipline (Saturday schools/detentions/cafeteria work/etc) for starting it all.

Jenni - posted on 03/17/2011

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My sister is 3 years younger than me. She's always been shy and timid and has been subjected to bullying. Luckily, she had me to stick up for her. I may have been small but I packed a lot of bark.

When she was in kindergarten there was a boy in my split class. He was a year older than me and a 'problem child'. He lived on our street and he use to pick on her and steal her lunch. In our class he was a loner who got picked on by kids his age; his last name was Boyer and the kids changed it to "Booger" and claimed he picked his nose and ate it. So bullying goes down the pecking order.



So anyways, when she told me about it. I took her by the hand and we marched straight to his house. His mom invited us in and I told her about what was going on. I said: "your son is picking on my little sister. She is only 5 years old and your son is 10 years old! He is pushing her down and stealing her lunch. Do you think you might want to put a stop to it?" She just mumbled some crap and acted like she was too busy making dinner. Wouldn't even make eye contact. :/

So I confronted him another time after. Told him if I heard one more thing about him harasssing my sister me and my gang (there was about 10 of us in the neighbourhood) were gonna beat his ass on the way to school. Don't know if it was the right thing to do; but the bullying stopped.



Another time when we were older a girl in a grade younger than me (I was 13 at the time). Was calling my sister fat and other names completely unprovoked. I also had a *chat* with her and she never said a thing about my sister again.



In HS a had this adorable little friend. She was in the grade younger but had been held back. She was so sweet and sheltered (really strict parents). She finally had the courage to tell us this one girl in her class was picking on her constantly. Telling her she was dirty and didn't she wash her clothes. (We were sk8rs so our baggy pants were usually muddy at the cuffs). So we all went with her and encouraged her to confront the girl at lunch. Nothing violent, but the girl found out what is was like to be confronted *without* her friends to back her up. Alone like my friend had been in class. She also never said a thing afterwords.



Bullies do have to be confronted to get them to stop. Walking away (running) only gives them more power. But you don't always have to confront them with violence to get the bullying to stop. But i know, not everyone has a big sis to back them up.

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They way i see it is both are wrong.No child deserves to be bullied but no bullied child should feel the need to attack in that manner.I understand why many support this but volience is not the answer.The child needs to understand that.I have heard of kids being told to stand up for themselves when it comes to a bully and they do only to get the shit kicked out of them more.Sorry but i would rather teach my child to not react with volience.Walk away, tell and if the teacher wont do anything.You bet i will and have done many a time.
Its funny my daughter got kicked into the tummy by a boy who was big for his age.I went in and i got an excuse of the boy does not speak english nor the parents.I said so thats an excuse to allow a child to think its okay to hurt another.When the teacher didnt speak after that i said you do something about it or i will speak to the parents myself i am sure the would not accept it if someone hurt there child on purpose..The boy never went near her again and he was made to say sorry.This was after my daughter had to tell the teacher twice he was still at her and she was told to just not be near him lol..how wonderful anything to make there life easy.

Jenni - posted on 03/17/2011

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Tara, you're so right about it being an issue with the school system and being highly unsupervised.

You'd never see this level of bullying in a smaller setting. Like other social groupings with kids where there are less children and more supervision per child. I'm sure bullying can still occur but it doesn't reach the degree it would in a school.



I bet if you could put into statistics the level of bullying vs the level of adult supervision. Bullying would rise as the ratio of students to teachers becomes higher.

Tara - posted on 03/17/2011

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Bullying in schools will continue to escalate as long as the school system operates the way it does.
The system is inherently flawed in that it places multitudes of children together without appropriate supervision and without adequate emotional intelligence to deal with these kinds of problems.
Schools breed a mentality of competition and discrimination against each other. This leads to an unhealthy sense of self, if you are not "good" in school or you do not achieve the social status that puts you above others, than you are "failing" somewhere along the line, that sense of failure becomes a sense of identity. That sense of failure turns into a fight or flight feeling every single day of their lives.
Children who go through school worrying about bullies or bullying others have very high amounts of cortisol in their blood stream the WHOLE day. This interferes with core learning on a HUGE level.
In schools where violence is more prevalent, almost all students will experience a drop in their performance, both academically and socially.
Schools do not foster cooperation, they do not foster acceptance or tolerance.
So many people, scholars, academics etc. think that bullying or "competition" is normal and somewhat healthy in children and adolescents.
The opposite is true, if you look to indigenous cultures or places where the school system is one that encourages group effort and fosters a sense of responsibility to all peoples, you will not see competition and violence between children, you will not see the need for some to reign superior over others.
Bullying is a symptom of a very very flawed educational system that is pumping out a class system of criminals, labourers, skilled workers and the elite. There is a distinct separation and classism working against a childs natural propensity to work together, to be rational, to be self aware and to be empathetic.
In my opinion both of the boys in this video are victims. They both victims of a flawed and unjust system of incarceration and repression.
This can only lead to feelings of negativity and hopelessness in those who are "inferior" and to feelings of superiority and control over those who are "inferior" or "abnormal" or "marginalized".

Children need to feel safe at school and on the bus in order to learn while they are at school.
They can legislate against bullying all they want, but unless they drastically change the very system where all of this happens, they will never make any head way. And Bullying will continue to escalate, and be present at younger and younger ages. Leading to a whole group of young minds whose brains are actually altered by chemistry due to the long term affects of bullying, even if they are just a by stander.
And also to a large group of youth who will also have their brain chemistry altered to thrive on aggression and control and violence.
It's a messed up system and when I read all the threads throughout Com about bullying and how the schools don't do enough, how many teachers assume it's natural behaviour etc. I am sad for the millions of children whose futures are being changed by this.
Bullying and violence and emotional battery are NOT part of a normal healthy childhood, they do NOT build good character in children, they do not promote a cooperative attitude amongst fellow humans, just the opposite.
Happy to homeschool my kids and help them build good character through positives and through real world experiences that they can actually use later in life when dealing with conflict.
Socialization my ass.

Tara - posted on 03/17/2011

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Bullying in schools will continue to escalate as long as the school system operates the way it does.
The system is inherently flawed in that it places multitudes of children together without appropriate supervision and without adequate emotional intelligence to deal with these kinds of problems.
Schools breed a mentality of competition and discrimination against each other. This leads to an unhealthy sense of self, if you are not "good" in school or you do not achieve the social status that puts you above others, than you are "failing" somewhere along the line, that sense of failure becomes a sense of identity. That sense of failure turns into a fight or flight feeling every single day of their lives.
Children who go through school worrying about bullies or bullying others have very high amounts of cortisol in their blood stream the WHOLE day. This interferes with core learning on a HUGE level.
In schools where violence is more prevalent, almost all students will experience a drop in their performance, both academically and socially.
Schools do not foster cooperation, they do not foster acceptance or tolerance.
So many people, scholars, academics etc. think that bullying or "competition" is normal and somewhat healthy in children and adolescents.
The opposite is true, if you look to indigenous cultures or places where the school system is one that encourages group effort and fosters a sense of responsibility to all peoples, you will not see competition and violence between children, you will not see the need for some to reign superior over others.
Bullying is a symptom of a very very flawed educational system that is pumping out a class system of criminals, labourers, skilled workers and the elite. There is a distinct separation and classism working against a childs natural propensity to work together, to be rational, to be self aware and to be empathetic.
In my opinion both of the boys in this video are victims. They both victims of a flawed and unjust system of incarceration and repression.
This can only lead to feelings of negativity and hopelessness in those who are "inferior" and to feelings of superiority and control over those who are "inferior" or "abnormal" or "marginalized".

Children need to feel safe at school and on the bus in order to learn while they are at school.
They can legislate against bullying all they want, but unless they drastically change the very system where all of this happens, they will never make any head way. And Bullying will continue to escalate, and be present at younger and younger ages. Leading to a whole group of young minds whose brains are actually altered by chemistry due to the long term affects of bullying, even if they are just a by stander.
And also to a large group of youth who will also have their brain chemistry altered to thrive on aggression and control and violence.
It's a messed up system and when I read all the threads throughout Com about bullying and how the schools don't do enough, how many teachers assume it's natural behaviour etc. I am sad for the millions of children whose futures are being changed by this.
Bullying and violence and emotional battery are NOT part of a normal healthy childhood, they do NOT build good character in children, they do not promote a cooperative attitude amongst fellow humans, just the opposite.
Happy to homeschool my kids and help them build good character through positives and through real world experiences that they can actually use later in life when dealing with conflict.
Socialization my ass.

Ez - posted on 03/16/2011

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This story was talked about on The View today. When they showed the clip, the crowd cheered. While nobody likes the idea of children engaging each other with violence, I thoroughly believe that children need to know that if they defend themselves they will be supported.

Tah - posted on 03/16/2011

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i love when schools say to let them handle it...then do nothing. I think the boy who started it should be dealt with accordingly..and though it was hard to watch...i bet he won't do it again...

Brandi - posted on 03/16/2011

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I agree with that. Online, there is all the evidence right in front of their face and it shouldn't be taken lightly. Words on a computer screen or text message is just as hurtful as hearing them in person. I am against bullying 100% and I hope and pray that one time was the only time MY child is bullied in school.

By talking to the school, I did get his suspension dropped. They called him into the office and got his side of the story on the whole thing, and concluded that he was indeed just defending himself. So, they dropped it.

Sad to know though that even children as young as 5 are being bullied. And, when it is your child you just feel so angry and sad at the same time that they are going through those things at school and you aren't there to help protect them.

Jenni - posted on 03/16/2011

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I agree 100% bullying should *NEVER* be taken lightly. There should be stiffer laws protecting kids against being bullied. Maybe they need to start charging bullies with harsher penalities. Especially with online bullying where there is clear evidence.

It shouldn't even have to come to the point of having to defend themselves with violence.

Brandi - posted on 03/16/2011

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I agree. I don't know if he had tried to get help from the school or not. But, I do know that he rode the same bus with the bully everyday, surely the bus driver knew what had been going on. I mean, why did they not help this boy? The school says to tell them and they will help but usually they do nothing. Kids shouldn't have to feel threatened at school. They shouldn't have to be afraid to go to school everyday. And if they ask for help, they should get it. And, if they don't they should be able to protect themselves and not have to worry about getting in trouble for defending themselves. A lot of kids DON'T stand up for themselves for fear that they will be punished at school, and the schools are proving them right, they will be punished if they try to defend themselves. I don't know, it is tough.

Jenni - posted on 03/16/2011

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Good. But still not good enough IMO. That literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. I feel so sorry for his family's loss. I couldn't fathom how I'd feel after that.

Brandi - posted on 03/16/2011

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he got charged as an adult. He was 16 at the time. I think it was Involuntary Manslaughter.

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yes ma'am it surely did happen. That boy was always picked on by the bully. He was a sweet kid, and I think he actually said something to the bully before walking off the school bus, the bully didn't like it and ran off after him before the bus driver could close the door. That poor boy didn't have a chance.

Jenni - posted on 03/16/2011

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Brandi, that's horrible! I think I can understand why you feel the way you do if that happened to you in real life.



Both bullying and being bullied can lead to death. Whether it be suicide or violence. That's why in situations like this one I think it's appropriate for both to be punished. What I mean is, when it goes beyond just self-defence.

Brandi - posted on 03/16/2011

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Yes. I would feel bad. I do agree that the kid got a little too upset. I think the best thing would have been to punch him back and leave it at that.

I actually do know a kid (bully) who ran off the school bus one day and punched another student in the back of the head... that student died.

Jenni - posted on 03/16/2011

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Brandi, I don't think any of us feel any pity for bullies under normal circumstances. If our kids fight back, I applaud them.

But can you honestly say if the bullied kid had killed the bully or even just paralyzed him by slamming him head first into the concrete, you wouldn't feel the least bit sympathetic?

Or if a bullied kid brings a knife... or shotgun to school to retaliate?
I'm comparing this incident to that because the kid could have been severely injured or worst case scenerio, killed.

Brandi - posted on 03/16/2011

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I have no pity for bullies honestly. My kindergartener fought back against a bully and the school tried to suspend him for a week. The school didn't tell me the whole story though, they just said he punched a kid, end of story. I was angry with my 5 year old son (who is bigger than the kids in kindergarten). BUT, when we got home and I calmed down I asked him WHY he hit another child. He told me everything that happened and come to find out this child (who is older than him) stole something that belonged to my child, then ran off with it and dropped it. My son walked over and bent down to pick it up and the other child came up and grabbed him from behind. My son yelled to stop and get off of him, no one helped him, and the boy would not let go, so my son elbowed him in the face! Then the boy let go and punched him in his back.

After my son told me about this I went to the school and asked to speak to the principal. I told her what my son had told me. She said it is school policy that both children get in trouble, just one more severely than the other. I told her I teach my kids to stand up for themselves and they WILL NOT be bullied. I said that my son told him to stop and to let go. She said he should have told a teacher, and I reminded her that the boy was wrapped around his waist, kinda hard to go tell a teacher. I said 9 times out of 10 when a student tells a teacher, nothing is done, and when a child fights back he gets in trouble. I'm sorry, but that is wrong. Why do you think so many kids in America are committing suicide or coming to school with guns. Bullies need an old fashion ass whooping, they can dish it, but they can't take it.

Jenni - posted on 03/16/2011

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It's the level of violence that borders on self-defence and a crime.
As I started watching the little twerp punch the bigger kid repeatedly and then bounce around like he was Rocky bekoning the bigger kid to Bring It On. I admit, I was thinking Hit HIM!!! But the moment the kid slammed him into the concrete my thoughts turned to "Oh SHIT?!"

I think if the bigger kid had simply punched the kid back most of us would have stood up at our computers and gave a round of ovation.
I still can't imagine how anyone would be able to show self-restraint after being bullied for that long. In a moment of snapitude no one is thinking clearly.

I believe it was the right thing to do to charge both kids because of the level of violence involved. If the bullied had brought a knife to school and reacted by stabbing the kid we would have felt the same way. It was extreme.

I'm glad that some positives are coming out of this, the crack down on cyber bullying.

The problem is most kids are afraid to tell adults because they fear antagonizing the bully.

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I think if the boy was being bullied, then the bully got what he deserved. Someone should have helped this poor kid. Maybe he did tell an adult and no one did anything about it so he took matters in his own hands.

I feel for children who are bullied.

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So... being twice the kid's size he couldn't have just pushed him away and left? He had to pick him up and slam him to the ground because he was 'cornered' and had no other choice?



I am NOT on the side of the bully, but I'm definitely not on the side of the other kid either.

Ez - posted on 03/15/2011

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My gut reaction was to cheer for that little shit being slammed. Clearly not that smart either to be picking on a kid twice his size.

Children need to be taught to defend themselves. The bigger boy's only two option were to stand there and take the punches, pushes and taunts, or fight back. He couldn't get away - he was cornered against a wall. So he lashed out to protect himself, and then walked away. I have no problem with that.

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I don't like the idea of fighting violence with violence but the bullied child in me cheered for that kid .......yeah they were both in the wrong but I don't feel sorry for the smaller kid .....And once enraged to the point of snapping it is hard to maintain control so I agree with Jodi that walking away after his intial reaction was impressive .

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My question is why didn't he walk away before slamming the kid to the ground? They were/are both wrong.

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Tracey, I am not sure if I've just been lucky, but so far, I am not aware that either of my kids have been on either end of the bullying scale. My son is now almost 14, so I am really hoping it stays that way....



I DO know my son once dobbed in some bullies at school in an incident he witnessed. They were in Year 6, the kid who was being bullied was in Year 2 and my son was in Year 4 at the time. The school went so far as he had to go into the Year 6 class rooms and identify the students who were doing the bullying, and he did it. I was so proud of him that day. Of course, I was concerned he would get bullied himself by these kids because he pointed them out, but it didn't work out like that at all, which was good. But I think that was one of my proudest moments, and the principal phoned me specifically to let me know how proud of my son she was too.

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The bully is lucky the bigger kid didn't feel the need to bring a knife or a gun with him . . . .

I'm really tired of this sort of crap, and my kids haven't even gotten into the bullying 'zone' yet. I really think it is the parents fault - both for teaching the bully to behave that way and not teaching the bully that if you treat people like s***, eventually someone is going to beat the crap out of you.

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wow. that's about all I can really say. I can't say I'm sorry for the smaller kid because he was asking for it.

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