Butter or Margarine?

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Which do you prefer? Which is better for you? What are those deciding factors? Which brands do you prefer? Does it matter?

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Jodi - posted on 11/06/2010

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Dana, I think it depends. It is all very confusing because not all margarines are made equal. Some are absolutely no good for you, and you'd be better off eating butter. You need to check the trans fats on what you are buying, because they are REALLY bad for you. Some margarines can also be quite high in sodium. Some are also still high in saturated fats. I avoid all of these things.



Some margarines are good for you because they actually LOWER cholesterol.



Honestly, I think we should all be taught to read nutrition labels in high school.

Charlie - posted on 11/08/2010

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I dont know about standards in other countries but i just took my marg out of the fridge and it is made from seeds , veggie oils and milks no artificial colours or flavours i just prefer to spread seed and veggi derived marg than animal fat derived butter , butter, as an animal fat, contains both saturated fats and cholesterol – the two dietary ingredients that increase blood cholesterol. Saturated fats can raise LDL cholesterol (also known as "bad" cholesterol), which raises total blood cholesterol as well. Cholesterol in foods, on the other hand, has little effect on blood cholesterol in most people. But for some, even a little dietary cholesterol can cause a soar in blood cholesterol levels.
it's clear that butter contains more saturated fats and trans fat.

Jodi - posted on 11/07/2010

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And Sal, sorry to tell you, switching from butter to margarine is a big step towards controlling a cholesterol problem. Any nutritionist worth anything will tell you to switch away from products high in saturated and trans fats to a product that is low in these fats.

Jodi - posted on 11/07/2010

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Sal, fat is not fat. Different types of fats are processed by your body in different ways. Not all calories are equal.

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Charlie - posted on 11/10/2010

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Um yeah my dog climbed a chair onto a bench just to like the marg , and yeah it does go mouldy its made from plant and seed oils , it is only one process off butter and that process is extracting the oils from the seed so sorry your myths dont equal fact Eronne .

Sherri - posted on 11/10/2010

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My animals all love margarine we always have to put the lid on because I will find the cats head in it if I don't. By the way margarine does go bad the same way butter will.

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"Put some margarine outside in a dish. It doesn't matter how long it's there nothing will eat it. Not animals, not rodents, not bugs not even mold or bacteria."



Not true mold grows on marg, I have thrown marg out because it had mold on it! Oh and as Amie said cats and dogs eat marg, so I should imagine other animals do too.

Jenn - posted on 11/10/2010

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Cyndel - it's not fake stuff - it's made from vegetable oil or other types of natural oils - it's not chemicals. and it is in fact better for you than butter.

Cyndel - posted on 11/10/2010

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I prefer butter. Its the taste. Plus margerin isn't as good for you as people say, neither is all the fake sugar, diet soda's. I'm not a health nut, but I'll take small infrequent portions of the real things rather then frequently eating/drinking the fake stuff.

Amie - posted on 11/10/2010

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Holy crap a doodle too. I haven't got a notification for this thread since the last time I posted. =/

Amie - posted on 11/10/2010

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"The only living thing on Earth that will eat margarine is people"

Not true. I've caught our cats licking in our margarine tub if it's on the counter with the lid off.

We have odd cats though. They even eat toast if you don't guard it. =/

Caitlin - posted on 11/10/2010

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Well this thread cleared up one thing for me.. Maragrine is the perfect camping food - nothing will eat it except us!

Eronne - posted on 11/10/2010

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Put some margarine outside in a dish. It doesn't matter how long it's there nothing will eat it. Not animals, not rodents, not bugs not even mold or bacteria. The only living thing on Earth that will eat margarine is people. Gotta make you wonder!

September - posted on 11/09/2010

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We like whipped butter made with olive oil in our home! :) I was raised on margarine but I can't stand the taste of it since switching to butter. We use butter sparingly and usually only when we bake which I don’t do very often.

Jenn - posted on 11/09/2010

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Maybe so - but there sure are a lot of dumb people out there - just sayin' ;)

Kate CP - posted on 11/09/2010

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I hardly think that a forum is a good place for some one to get accurate medical information. If any one has a health problem of any kind and reads these posts and makes a decision based on something one of US has said...well...that's just kinda dumb, IMO.

Jenn - posted on 11/09/2010

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@ Kate: did I say that you said "changing your diet will never help ever at all"? No, I did not. But when you say something like "most of the time just changing your diet won't do a whole hell of a lot." it might make people think that there's not much they can do to lower their cholesterol by changing their diet, when, in fact, that is not true. Not trying to be trivial about a simple statement, but maybe someone who has a cholesterol problem may read this and I want them to know the truth - that they CAN make a big difference by simply changing their diet, and switching to a heart healthy margarine like Becel is one step that they can take.

Kate CP - posted on 11/09/2010

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Emma: My mother can't lose weight. She's post-menopausal, has SEVERE hypothyroidism, fibromyalgia, is over 50, and is on several medication for depression which cause weight gain. The woman does yoga, she eats VERY healthy, tries to exercise as much as possible without hurting herself. We have to *remind* her to eat. It's not like she's shoveling in the food and just sitting on her butt. Sometimes there are legitimate reasons for a person being over weight that have nothing to do with caloric intake or a sedentary lifestyle.

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besides my original point is that not all obese people overeat, and continued overeating/not exercising is not the only reason fat people stay fat

Stifler's - posted on 11/09/2010

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There is also medications for all of those things meaning they actually can lose weight.

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ok well some people eat too many calories but it is true that there are also some people that don't eat too many calories, do exercise and cannot lose weight. Hypothyroid, hypoglycemia, low metabolism from taking in too few calories, food allergies (wheat allergy makes you fat!)...all of these things (and other things) can be reasons for not being able to lose weight.

Stifler's - posted on 11/09/2010

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I did nutrition at uni. I know about the you need enough calories but the truth is that people eat way too many calories anyway and don't know it. And think they are being healthy by eating potatoes and huge bowls of cereal for breakfast instead of Maccas bacon and eggs and stuff but they aren't. Or they're in denial about what they're eating and "don't count" things that actually do matter. I know tonnes of people who claim they can't lose weight and that they apparently exercise and I've been to their house and see how much they eat on a daily basis.

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I love butter but generally buy margarine as it's better for you. I don't mind what brand either.

Stifler's - posted on 11/09/2010

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How can someone stay 150kg without eating enough calories to maintain 150kg? If they are eating as healthy as they say and exercising they wouldn't be staying 150kg.

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Emma, just because you think that doesn't make it true. There are many health-based reasons why someone couldn't lose weight, and you can also destroy your metabolism and not be able to lose weight. Don't judge obese people (or anyone for that matter) since you don't know their circumstances.

Kate CP - posted on 11/08/2010

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You're right. I said "...most of the time just changing your diet won't do a whole hell of a lot." But I guess what I really did mean was that changing your diet will never help ever at all.

Yep. Assumptions.

Stifler's - posted on 11/08/2010

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I believe in nutritional therapy too. I'm sorry, but I really just can't believe these massively obese people when they say "I can't lose weight, I eat healthy and exercise but nothing happens". *bullshit* You can't physically stay that fat if you're not eating foods that make you fat.

Jodi - posted on 11/08/2010

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Kate, my husband's cholesterol was so high he was put on aspirin for fear of an imminent heart attack......but through diet, when he was tested 3 months later his cholesterol was normal, and he was able to come off the aspirin (and is still testing normal). All of this was achieved through diet. But it wasn'[t achieved only by changing butter for margarine, however that was one of the changes he made and it contributed to the lowering of his cholesterol.

Jenn - posted on 11/08/2010

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Well, that's not what you actually said, but maybe that's what you meant. Thanks for assuming I don't read properly though, I love it when people make assumptions ;)

Kate CP - posted on 11/08/2010

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I said a slight problem with cholesterol can be fixed with diet change. A severe problem usually requires medication. Please read whole posts.

Chrystal - posted on 11/08/2010

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I usually just buy the store brand tub of butter. Whatever grocery store I'm at. That's usually Walmart or Food Lion

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Jodi, you can control many health problems by a change in diet. My mom has had epilepsy her entire life and she took herself off her medication and changed her diet and hasn't had a seizure since!

Jodi - posted on 11/08/2010

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Jenn, my husband also controls BOTH his cholesterol and diabetes with diet. Unfortunately he has been genetically *blessed* with these things, but it is absolutely possible to control and manage by changing your diet. It's the first time in his life he has listened to what other people tell him to do....damn he is stubborn!!!



You know what the really sad thing is? His diabetes educator told him that once he was on medication, he is on it for life and will eventually be insulin dependent. I don't believe that either. So far I have seen my husband cut out his medication altogether because it was sending his blood sugar TOO low because of the management of his diet, and his cholesterol dropped back to normal levels in a matter of 2 months.

Jenn - posted on 11/08/2010

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Someone mentioned that you really can't lower your cholesterol without medication - NOT true! My Mum was warned that if she didn't get her cholesterol under control that she would have to go on medication. Guess what - she's not on medication! She increased her fibre intake and became more aware of the types of fats she was consuming and got her cholesterol levels back to normal.

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Ok so I've read the rest of the responses. I see that marg can be lower in certain fats than butter, however, if you are using it sparingly as we do then it really makes no difference whether you use butter or marg, my MIL has to go without because she likes a bit of bread with her butter (if you get what I mean) and cannot only have a bit. Generally I try not to use butter on my sarnies, instead I use pesto, cheese spread and a thin spread of mayo to moisten the bread.

My FIL dietrician told him to read the labels because things labelled low fat etc are often misleadling the consumer and the regular products are actually better for you than the low fat version, when the label is scrutinised. The main thing they focused on for him was reducing portion sizes. My MIL has more diet retrictions with her diabetes than he does with his cholesteral.

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Before I read the other 2 pages I just wanted to say Jenn it was a joke, I missed the end of the sentence off because I got distracted (it should have read because marg is plastic don't cha know *winks*). I do feel butter is better for you as it is made of more natural ingredients than marg but marg is NOT plastic that is an urban legend that weight watchers leaders like to throw about to scare people into not eating it.

I just prefer more natural things such as butter and sugar rather than the lower fat man made alternatives. Although I do eat marg sometimes.

Jodi - posted on 11/08/2010

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"There are no rules governing the use of the terms 'Dietitian' and 'Nutritionist' and they may be used by Dietitians, nutrition scientists and nutrition graduates, or people with very limited nutrition qualifications. To make sure you are receiving expert nutrition advice, always enquire about the qualifications of a dietitian or nutritionist and look for the APD credential."

http://www.daa.asn.au/index.asp?pageID=2...

Sal - posted on 11/07/2010

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i don;t know where shannan lives but i have just looked up what a nutritionalist needs here and it is To be eligible for full membership of DAA, one of the following is required:

•an approved Bachelor of Science Degree (or equivalent qualification) plus a postgraduate degree in nutrition and dietetics from a DAA accredited course;
•an approved undergraduate degree in nutrition and dietetics from a DAA accredited course; or
•successful completion of the dietetics examination for overseas trained dietitians administered by the Dietitians Association of Australia.
to be a dietition you needed more but for the nutrition it was still subtantial, (i think it was 3 v's 5 years study) and i always check for crediential if i am paying for a service i want to know that i am getting what i think i am, and the second girl (the one who was a friend) worked in a large regional hospital, i doubt she'd get that without proper credentials...

Amie - posted on 11/07/2010

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Margarine is better than butter, in taste and health wise. (in most cases, there are some that are just as bad [or worse I'm sure])

I only use butter sparingly, to bake. That's it. I will not use it as a spread, ick. My in laws, butter is the only thing they buy so I just eat my food dry or bring our margarine with us. LOL

We use Becel. The type of Becel sometimes changes but since they started making it with Olive Oil, we buy that kind. I've tried other ones, but they do taste slightly different and kinda gross, to me. So Becel it is.

Here's an interesting link from the Mayo Clinic:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/butter-...
Here's an interesting one that leans towards butter being better:
http://www.aviva.ca/article.asp?articlei...

Also, since Christmas baking is upon me; I have both in my fridge. This is what each Nutrition facts says on each package:

Becel w/ Olive Oil:

Per 2 tsp.
Calories: 70
Fat: 8 g
Saturated: 1g
+Trans: 0g
Polyunsaturated: 2g
Omega-6:1.5 g
Omega-3: .5g
Monounsaturated: 4.5g
Cholesterol: 0 mg
Sodium: 70 mg

Neilson Butter (salted)

Per 2 tsp.
Calories: 70
Fat: 8 g
Saturated: 5 g
+Trans: .3 g
Cholesterol: 20 mg
Sodium: 95 mg

Side Note: I only buy the Neilson's butter because it's the cheapest. LOL Plus it's for baking, no such thing as healthy when you're eating treats. Well there shouldn't be, IMO. haha.

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Ok just did some more research and well how credable is the nutritionist friend of yours Sal? Cause i have ,in the last week, been to see a dietitian ( from what i just found out a nutritionist doesn't need any credentials where as a dietitian needs them) and i was told that low fat was the way to go which in turn means Marg NOT Butter is better for you!

Desiree - posted on 11/07/2010

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It all depends on what you are cooking. I only use butter for my sauces marg for everything else.

Kate CP - posted on 11/07/2010

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I've never heard them referred to as pulses. Most people in the US call them legumes.

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Well, I have an appointment in a couple weeks with a nutritionist because, while my cholesterol levels are not high, the ratio of bad to good is off. I have far too much of the bad (LDL) cholesterol and not enough of the good (HDL). Can't wait to hear what the nutritionist has to say when I ask about butter vs. margarine.

I found a great current resource if anyone is interested.

http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions...

Sal - posted on 11/07/2010

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and for the people who say that the nutirionalist is wrong, did you read the rest of what i said...it is moer than butter/marg that is the most tiny bit of it.....she didn;t recomend pigging out on huge slabs of butter but i did make a point of asking which, she had already to reduce fat in general,but if you were going to have a little on tst or what ever use it sparinly and butter was her choice,

Sal - posted on 11/07/2010

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no pulses....not your pulse, lentils, chick peas etc, along with walking, high fibre, oats, advocado and olive oil, it is about far more than butter oil and marg, but the question was butter or marg, i like butter, have to use dairy free marg for the little one, and my idea was backed by the nutrionist who said she wouldn't eat the overly processed marg, i personally have a bum too big but not colestrsol issue it was my skinny hubby who did, and the specail butters help alter the good/bad ratio not actaully ruduce bad chorlestrol, and it is the ratio that i know was an issue for my dad (who i got the advice from my nutrionalist feind for) and my hubby, neither were over weight and don;t smoke, both dad and hubby used then stooped the special spreads and esp my dads lelves have imporoved greatly,

Kate CP - posted on 11/07/2010

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Okay, the truth about cholesterol is that most of the time just changing your diet won't do a whole hell of a lot. Usually it's a genetic trait and medication is the only way to really bring cholesterol into check. Also, there is GOOD cholesterol and BAD cholesterol. Some margarines have BAD cholesterol in them. Some raise GOOD cholesterol. Butter, however, doesn't help with good cholesterol and contains saturated fats which are not good for you. While your body will process butter differently and feel more satisfied with this type of fat, if you have a slightly high cholesterol level then switching to margarine would be better.



Also, your pulse has nothing to do with cholesterol. AND there's no way to really "mask" the results of a cholesterol check. It's a blood test.

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