Can moms smoke pot?

Sara - posted on 06/17/2011

And for the record, I'd rather have someone smoke pot than smoke crack/shoot heroin/take pills any day. I agree, that for most people and in most cases, smoking pot doesn't make you a bad parent or unfit. It's really just all about choices. Smoking pot in front of your children, probably not a great choice...

Laura - posted on 06/17/2011

pot doesnt make you a bad mom or a bad person so anyone out there that thinks this doesn't know what there talking about pot doesnt make you bad a person knows the difference between right amd wrong so if they choose to smoke it than thats there business.

Sara - posted on 06/17/2011

I would be willing to guess that the smoking of the plant in fact negates any impact of growing new cells, since in the action of inhaling smoke you are depriving your brain of oxygen, thus actually killing brain cells...

Dana - posted on 06/17/2011

Okay let's be clearer, this one study, done by someone says, "A synthetic chemical similar to the active ingredient in marijuana makes new cells grow in rat brains"

That's still a far cry from saying it "creates new brain cells"

And actually that link really doesn't prove much at all...


But, thanks for the NORMAL link, it showed that Jenny's earlier comment of "No one has died from marijuana use" is actually false.

Samantha - posted on 06/17/2011

Jennifer-
links for no brain damage:
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3475
http://www.effectivedrugrehabilitation.c...
links for marijuana creating brain cells:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn81...
and a longer article to the same study
http://budfacts.com/243/new-study-proves...

Cathy - posted on 06/17/2011

That's WHY you like the lemon poppy seed cake!

I also like nutmeg highs!

Jenni - posted on 06/17/2011

Wow! That's crazy, I love lemon poppy seed cake, mmmm. I hope I'm never in a situation that calls for a drug test! lol

Cathy - posted on 06/17/2011

http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/popp...

Apparently even one bagel can do it!

Dana - posted on 06/17/2011

Oh I missed that part..... LMAO Not to be rude but, "pot doesn't fry brain cells...it creates them"....??

Jenni - posted on 06/17/2011

I'm not sure about the argument that it doesn't kill brain cells, do you have a source?
And the study done about partaking before the age of 16 is that it affects those with a predisposition for psychosis. Which exists in 1/4 people. 3/4 of teens who partake before the age of 16 will possibly not be effected.

Cathy - posted on 06/17/2011

Poppy seeds aren't processed. You can test positive for Heroin if you eat enough of them.

Dana - posted on 06/17/2011

There are certain poppy plants that are illegal to grow in the US. Maybe it's the more potent ones? I love the big dinner plate poppy flowers. Gorgeous!

Jenni - posted on 06/17/2011

I tried to grow some lovely coral-coloured poppies this spring but they didn't take. :( I am curious why poppies aren't illegal to grow, I'm not sure how they are processed. Is that why? They didn't come with warnings like my morning glory seeds (warned not to injest, poisonous)

Dana - posted on 06/17/2011

Uh, that's not actually true, Samantha...

Samantha - posted on 06/17/2011

cocaine and opium have to be processed by man first. You can't just pick it off the plant and smoke and/or injest it in any way like you can marijuana. Marijuana does not need to be processed. Thats the difference

Cathy - posted on 06/17/2011

You can actually get an opiate effect from eating the seeds.

Dana - posted on 06/17/2011

They sure are pretty...especially when you're high! :P

Cathy - posted on 06/17/2011

I like poppies...

Dana - posted on 06/17/2011

Yes, it's a plant just like Coke comes from a plant and opium comes from a plant.
Not that I'm anti-pot - I'm by FAR anti-pot. But the argument that it's just a plant doesn't really fly.

Samantha - posted on 06/17/2011

Marijuana is a PLANT. It is 100% natural and of the earth. A gift from mother nature. Not only is Cannabis fantastic for medicinal reasons, the Hemp Plant (which contains 0 THC) itself has plenty of uses, that could in all actuality relieve this country of its debt.
Marijuana was listed in the US Pharmacopeia from 1850-1942 and was prescribed for various conditions including labor pains, nausea, and rheumatism. It is a proven fact it has been used for medicinal purposes since 2737 B.C., perhaps even earlier.
When Christopher Columbus came to America in 1492, he brought Cannabis Sativa with him. In 1908, Henry Ford made his first Model T with hemp plastic. The car was fueled with hemp ethanol. Imagine, there would be no need for our country to be addicted to Oil any longer, if hemp were legalized! Sometime around 7000 - 8000 BCE, the first fabric is believed to have been woven from dried hemp weed.
There was once a time in our country where it was illegal NOT to grow hemp, there was once a time when you could pay your taxes with hemp! The fact that a PLANT (I can't stress this enough) is illegal is ridiculous and humiliating.
It bothers me that so many people have such strong opinions against marijuana, and yet have done NO research on the matter. It is disturbing that people would rather do what they are told and believe what they are told to believe than do a little research on the matter on their own.
Humans (especially Americans) are so quick to judge others with out all, if any, of the facts.
Would I consider someone a bad mother because they smoke weed, with or without a prescription? Absolutely not. You can be a perfectly respectable citzen and parent and still smoke marijuana. Despite all of the (false) Anti-Marijuana propaganda,the people are beginning to wake up and see they are being lied to. 5 joints does NOT equal 1 cigarette. Marijuana does not FRY brain cells, it CREATES them. The only way marijuana can fry your brain is if you indulge before the age of 16 because your brain is still developing until then.

Natalie - posted on 06/17/2011

I have seen the effect it has on a person so no I don't think any sensible parent can smoke it and be responsible for a child. It makes you think less straight and quite often I have seen people act irrationally/violent.

Natalie - posted on 06/17/2011

I have seen the effect it has on a person so no I don't think any sensible parent can smoke it and be responsible for a child. It makes you think less straight and quite often I have seen people act irrationally/violent.

Laura - posted on 06/15/2011

If it were me I would wait till I have alone time to smoke pot if I were going to because i wouldnt want my child waking up and catching me me smoking it. I have smoked pot before but I have always made sure my child is with someone I trust and I know she is safe. I don't smoking pit makes you a bad parent. So if you want to than do it if not than don't.

Constance - posted on 06/15/2011

All I can do is laugh about this whole thing. Man I thought some other people talked out of their ass. hey maybe we should introduce them. Then maybe they will figure out to many close minded people kill really good orgasmism:P Sorry I am just kinda in a really good mood. I love being a smart ass it's fun.

Krista - posted on 06/15/2011

Sigh. That was a real waste of a well-thought-out reply, wasn't it?

Constance - posted on 06/15/2011

Everyday didn't you know that? LOL I thought I was just th insane mom that had a small village here everyday but now I get to add being a strung out hopped up on pain pills insane mom that has a small village in the house everyday! That is so totally awesome. : P

Jodi - posted on 06/15/2011

Crazy, much?

Constance - posted on 06/15/2011

OOPS!!!!! My keyboard misspelled "you". Or maybe it is because I am too stoned to know what I am doing. :P

Constance - posted on 06/15/2011

No Loureen it is u drunks and drug addicts that can't spell. Didn't you know that? :P

Shannen - posted on 06/15/2011

Hehehehe Maybe it was all that second hand smoke from her pot head ex?

Charlie - posted on 06/15/2011

"I will say this again for those pot heads who didnt see what I wrote....... Im DONE this outeageous debate!!! Fey your brain cells and smoke pot.....you cant argue wirh an ADDICT!!!!!!! The end!!!!!!!!!! "

WOW and you say pot "fey's" your brain .

Jenni - posted on 06/15/2011

Casey Anthony has narcissistic personality disorder. Comparing your average pot smoking mom to her would be like comparing your average german to Hitler. The comparison is not only insulting to some moms but ridiculous and ignorant. It's obvious you are trying to insult rather than debate probably because you've had nothing constructive to add to this debate since post #1.

Patricia - posted on 06/15/2011

I will say this again for those pot heads who didnt see what I wrote....... Im DONE this outeageous debate!!! Fey your brain cells and smoke pot.....you cant argue wirh an ADDICT!!!!!!! The end!!!!!!!!!!

Krista - posted on 06/15/2011

I'm sorry all I thought this was a debate..... I dated a "Pot head" who had this substance on his back.....its abusive and ver VERY addictive......

I'm sorry you went through that. But I think that your negative experience has coloured your perception and rendered you unable to look at the issue objectively.

Can pot be habit-forming? Physically, no. Psychologically, yes. But so can any other relaxation or coping mechanism. Some people become addicted to gambling. Or shopping. Or sex. Or exercise. In fact, I would be willing to wager that gambling has ruined more lives and marriages than pot has.

And this IS a debate. However, you have offered no information whatsoever to back up your assertions, other than one personal anecdote, and an impatient demand that we "Google it". So it's a bit odd for you to be lecturing us on debate form, when you've been doing anything BUT debating, really.

The fact of the matter is that marijuana is clinically proven to alleviate pain and increase appetite, both effects of which can be hugely beneficial to patients with chronic or terminal illnesses. The fact of the matter is that unlike prescription medications, marijuana is not physically addictive and if not smoked, has little to no negative side effects. The fact of the matter is that IF a parent has a condition severe enough that medical marijuana is needed, the alternative "mainstream" option is usually powerful narcotics...which would be just as (if not more) likely to mess with the patient's wits.

Your assertion that marijuana is evil, based on your one negative experience, would be as nonsensical as me trying to have Tylenol 3 banned, because I know someone who got hooked on them.

Jeannette - posted on 06/15/2011

If a mom/dad is prescribed medical marijuana, then yes, I feel it would be okay for them to smoke it. I don't like marijuana and I don't want it to be legalized. However just because you smoke, doesn't mean you are automatically a bad parent. I have drinks at night. I usually start drinking at 8 and my son goes to bed at 8:30. My husband is home as well, although it isn't like I'm even tipsy. Some people react to pot differently then others. Years ago when I did it a few times, I was so not in control and couldn't focus on anything. If I did smoke, I would never do it while caring for my son, because of how I felt when I did it. However, as I said, I don't use marijuana.

ERICA - posted on 06/15/2011

I think that it should be legal. I am 28 I have 2 kids and if i had not smoked it my kids would have seen me get sick ever day from the cancer that I had I feel that it should also be used for other things the drugs for depression and other things have really awful and sometimes deadly side effects have you ever heard of someone dieing or overdosing from marijuana the answer is no so yes I believe that it is a great thing some of you might think I am a bad mom but I have and will use it again it ever the need be

Jenny - posted on 06/15/2011

Oh please, you are trying to blame someone's personality on a substance. I have a job that requires a high level of math and attention to detail. Marijuana does not affect that in any way. I smoked when taking finals in college. I smoked when I took my driver's test (which I aced BTW). The use of pot itself does not make someone incapable of dealing with life. It's just stereotypes. Some people are lazy and unmotivated and like to smoke pot. Most people are fully functioning members of society and you would never know they smoked unless they told you. I have met many of them over the years.

Marijuana is illegal due to corporate influence and racism. I am OK with civil disobedience of an unjust law. I do believe it will be decriminalized, but preferably flat out legal, in my lifetime.

Honestly, I think for some people smoking pot should be court ordered so they mellow the fuck out.

Lacye - posted on 06/15/2011

It is a debate but not a free for all drag out where we get to sit here and play miss high all mighty. And by the way, there are several studies where pot has been proven to help in the case of cancer, glaucoma, and other diseases. These women are not pulling these links out of their ass. They have actually done their research.

Patricia - posted on 06/15/2011

I'm sorry all I thought this was a debate..... I dated a "Pot head" who had this substance on his back.....its abusive and ver VERY addictive...... People kill brain cells deceived by thinking they are helping their pain....tsk...tsk...TSK!!! ( The end )

Krista - posted on 06/15/2011

@Hope: If a parent is utterly incapacitated with pain, and unable to take care of their child as a result, then who does that benefit?

When medical marijuana is prescribed, it's usually for pretty dire cases, like if a patient is terminal, or if they have something chronic (no pun intended) like MS. Can you honestly sit there and say that being on 1000 mg of morphine every 8 hours would affect their awareness less than ingesting a little bit of pot?

Lacye - posted on 06/15/2011

I don't like pot but the way Patricia put it was rude and inconsiderate and is disgusting. If you have an opinion, fine but don't be an ass about it.

Hope - posted on 06/15/2011

Ask Social services about it peeps specifically Child services how they would feel about it reguarding parent who smokes pot while trying to care for his/her children. I agree with Patricia. A parent should be willing to be self-sacrificing for the best care of their children- what makes them a good parent. There are many other drugs available for depression in which case would be the better choice here. Ask ourselves, why do people smoke pot to begin with and most are not for medical reasons its to get high. Knowing this, how could a parent control their level of awareness and be in optimum ability to care for their children if high even for medicinal purposes. Which is the reason that it is generally illegal in the states-most at least. Call me self-righteous all you want. I have the right to be and to my own opinions. Remember this is a debate people so don't make it so personal and start getting offended at others' opinions when they also have the right to express them.

Jenni - posted on 06/15/2011

...If it's a proven fact it has no medical benefits... then why do governments condone medicinal marijuana use...?



There are so many more bigger wars that people need to concentrate their rage and efforts on than the war on marijuana.

In my opinion abuse of alchohol takes the cake over abuse of marijuana, any day. I have known people with chronic alcholism and I have known plenty of chronic marijuana users, my grandfather has been sober for 40 years and is an active member in AAs. My grandmother is an active member in Alanons. My grandfather was the drug/alcohol counceller for Daimler Crystlers'. I attended many, many meetings as a child and I can guarentee beyond a shadow of a doubt that alcohol abuse ruins more lives and families than marijuana abuse. In fact, I have yet to see a family ruined by marijuana use unless one of the partners doesn't agree with their partner partaking.



The only thing I've seen chronic marijuana use cause is laziness (for some) and an expensive grocery bill. The two are not even comparable.



But for those who think any use of any substance even when used responsibly when children are not present, is deplorable. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I simply do not see how a glass of wine once a week or a puff off a joint in the same moderation has any ill effects or is even close to being detrimental to anyone.



And for those who use it for medicinal purposes. Unless you're in their shoes... who the heck are you to judge?

My uncle was dead set against using marijuana until he developed lymphnod cancer. He was always a frail man and with the kemo he was so nauseous he couldn't stomach any food. He was wasting away and only given 6 months to live. He decided to try marijuana. He was able to eat again and it helped with his pain and nausea. He lasted a year instead of 6 months. He just wanted to make it to the spring so he could experience sitting outside on a nice, warm, sunny day... one last time. If he hadn't been able to eat, I'm certain the doctors would have been right.

Jodi - posted on 06/15/2011

"Marijuana DOES NOT help pain!!!! It's a PROVEN FACT!!! GOOGLE IT for crying out loud!!! Sheesh!!! lol"

God forbid you ever have any real pain. Like cancer...... :\ Perhaps that will be your moment of truth. I really hope not.

Krista - posted on 06/15/2011

Marijuana DOES NOT help pain!!!! It's a PROVEN FACT!!! GOOGLE IT for crying out loud!!! Sheesh!!! lol

By jove, I shall! Because goodness knows that everything I find via Google is the honest-to-goodness TRUTH about things!

/rolls eyes

Find me a peer-reviewed medical study showing that marijuana does nothing for pain, and then we'll talk, m'kay?

Constance - posted on 06/15/2011

To compare the moms on this thread with someone like Casey is dugusting. I know I can't wait for her to fry and I think we all feel that way.
I may have several perscriptions but I am not loopy or drugged out. I still take care of 7 children, homeschool, doctors, 3 meal and 2 snacks everyday made from scratch, I work fulltime and attend school fulltime as well. My husband works in another state. Two daughters that are disabled.

Get your facts straight before you judge anyone. I know I don't take more than I am suppost to just like the majority of us don't get stupid drunk. We are adults after all we know when to stop.
You can disagree with using any substance but please don't ever compair loving moms with a pysocopath like Casey Anthony she is cold hearted and does not know how to love anyone and never will.

Stifler's - posted on 06/15/2011

ROFL reefer madness. Pat I think you're going a bit far with the Casey case of going out partying after their child was murdered bit.

Tara - posted on 06/15/2011

Patricia, everyone is allowed an opinion, but on a debate community we tend to back our opinions up with facts as much as possible.
Your opinion is one based on emotion and misinformation.
And the delivery of your opinion smacks of intolerance and self-righteousness, as well as uneducated.
Do the research, it's a 3000 year old drug, the most widely studied drug, that has been used for the treatment of a huge variety of illnesses. And the only reason it was demonized was because of money and politics. Not health, actually doctors were dismayed when it was removed from their list of pharmacology.
You obviously have zero real information about medical marijuana. do some research and open your brain... you have a disease called "reefer madness".

Charlie - posted on 06/15/2011

Patricia your posts are all over the shop and make little sense but here goes.



First off it has been proven scientifically and anacdotally that it does relieve pain google it *eye roll*

http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/new...

http://www.wdkp.com/health/tips/clinical...

http://www.wdkp.com/health/tips/clinical...

That is just a few in hundreds to refute your claims .



Second - no one is saying to smoke it in front of children .



and fourth - "If youre a parent then by george "GIVE UP" the party life!!! If you didnt wanna be responsible in the first place.....then you should NEVER had kids from the start!!! "



I am astounded at your ignorance , Cancer IS NOT A PARTY , MS is NOT a party , Glaucoma NOT a party , chronic pain is not a party , to ignore that there are PROVEN ( and I say that with actual fact on my side ) benefits to medical marijuana is astounding , to imply that those who use medicinal marijuana can't "give up the party " is offensive to those who suffer , to say they should never have had kids ? well tell me do you honestly think they saw their illness coming ? do you think these people who suffer and find some comfort in Marijuana would rather be sick and have weed or healthy and live a long life with their kids .



Your assumptions are a little sick , perhaps you can get to know the chemical makeup of marijuana and how it affects the biology of the human species before offering your ideas and back up your claims .

Patricia - posted on 06/15/2011

ExxxxxxACTLY! A parent cannot funtion properly to take care of the children's needs! And there's no comparison to a simple glass of wine or anxiety medication either....quite frankly any substance when taking TOO MUCH is not good parenting.....why would a parent want to become drunk or strung out on pills in the presence of their children to begin with? That makes just about as much sense as the Casey case....."goes out partying and living it up right after her child drown/was murdered....then waited and waited to report this to the police??? Cmon now!!! If youre a parent then by george "GIVE UP" the party life!!! If you didnt wanna be responsible in the first place.....then you should NEVER had kids from the start!!!