Catholic priest says he'd marry gay couple

Jodi - posted on 02/15/2011 ( 12 moms have responded )

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High-profile Catholic priest Father Bob Maguire says he would marry a gay couple - but not in a church.



The outspoken priest, who fought a public battle in 2010 to stop the church from retiring him, says he does not have a personal view of gay civil unions.



The 75-year-old Father Maguire said he realised Catholic leaders would not want a gay marriage held inside a church but it was his duty to help people in need, including homosexual couples.



"I'd probably consult the bosses and then I'd go back to the clients and tell them we can't do it here - it's not personal, it's institutional," he told the Herald Sun.



He said that he felt it was "his duty" to help people in need.



"Not only do I have an administrative responsibility but I have also pastoral responsibility and pastoral care would be taking care of the two people involved and their friends and their associates," he said.



According to Australia Marriage Equality national secretary Peter Furness, he isn't the only Catholic priest who supports the issue but he's one of the few who is willing to speak publicly about it.



"There are many priests who support and want the right to marry same sex couples," Mr Furness said.



"(But) people are scared of their bosses to do it publicly."



Yesterday the Catholic Church reiterated its belief that marriage is a union only between a man and a woman.



According to Bishop Les Tomlinson, the Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Melbourne, "Priests are authorised to officiate at weddings according to the Catholic rite and therefore any marriage performed by a Catholic priest must be conducted in accordance with Catholic teaching."



http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world...



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Mary - posted on 02/15/2011

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Jenny, that's kind of how it already is. I had to apply for a marriage license issued by the state first, and meet their requirements in order for my marriage to have any legal standing or recognition. In the eyes of the state, the priest is just one of many individuals authorized to officiate at that ceremony. Basically, you only choose to get married in any given religious organization because you want you marriage recognized by BOTH the church and state. If I just showed up at a church, and some fool of minister married me without a state-issued license, my marriage would not have any legal standing, even if that church recognized us as married.

Krista - posted on 02/15/2011

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@Tracey: It's not like they ask potential grooms if they've ever looked longingly at their neighbour's new ride-on lawnmower, and last time I checked, covetousness was a mortal sin.

Tracey - posted on 02/15/2011

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Doesn't the bible view homosexuality as a sin so why should the priest go against the teachings of his holy book by conducting a same sex ceremony?

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**Jackie** - posted on 08/02/2012

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I was raised Catholic but consider myself to be more of just a "normal" new age Christian. There are tons of new man made laws in the Catholic church that I do not agree with., I have to say I am thrilled!. I believe that if you truly love someone with all of your heart, then you should just marry the shit outta them!!!

I could not imagine falling in love with my husband and wanting to share the rest of my life with him by solidifying our love through marriage...and then someone saying "ehhhhhhhh hold on just a minute...we don't approve" Who the f*ck are we to judge? We all sin in one way or another. Bigots, get over yourselves. Don't you have anything else to do?


I feel better lol

Stifler's - posted on 02/15/2011

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It's not just Catholic churches that are against gay marriage. I don't know why this becomes about Catholics. If I had wanted to get married in the Christ church up town like I really did want to (Anglican Diocese) they would have said no! Because I don't belong to their church and am not baptised Anglican. Should I make a big fucking deal about that or just get married somewhere else? It's the same "prejudice" or "discrimination" if you will and it happens to straight couples all the time. I know at least 4 couples who wanted to get married there and they said no.

Jenn - posted on 02/15/2011

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Actually, you don't need a marriage licence if you have the church issue a banns of marriage.

I think it's great that he is willing to perform gay marriage ceremonies!

Jenny - posted on 02/15/2011

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There's an easy solution. Don't allow churches to issue legal documents. The government can issue marriage licenses acccording to the law of the land. You can have your ceremony where you see fit. If you are marrying in a church it's to be before your god anyway so no legal standing is required for that ceremony. Win-win.

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Actually I don't covet my neighbors things or anyone else's for that matter. I don't see the point as I have all the basics of life. However, I do covet enough money to put all my kids through college and have a nice retirement. That is something I, myself can work on and in the long run actually accomplish. So not everyone covets other peoples things.

I agree with Tracey that the bible views homosexuality as a sin so why should the priest go against the teachings of his holy book by conducting a same sex ceremony? Also consider this. If you are a priest, catholic or otherwise, why would you continue to belong to a religion or church that does not have your same beliefs. If you actually do believe homosexuals should get married instead of just a civil union shouldn't you belong to a church/religion that believes as you do?

Desiree - posted on 02/15/2011

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Hmmmm! Being Catholic myself every bit of common sense is screaming at me to stay out of this. That being said, does anyone actually for one minute think that Catholics are the only ones to believe that marriage between same sex couples is wrong. I know of a number of New Age Christian who preach against it. My sisters-in-laws being one of them.



Personally it doesn't sit well with me either, but that is a personal thing but then again neither does grown ups snogging and almost climbing into each other pants in public. I am sometimes very conservative. but then again thats me.



The funny thing is the minute people hear the word Catholic they get some very odd preconceived ideas and totally forget that there are others just as old and Traditional as we are. The Greek Orthodox, The Russian Orthodox, The Jews and The Muslim all feel the same way.



If a person wants to marry go for it I believe in the institution of marriage but just because you have the freedom to do so does not give you the right to infringe on another's right not to do so because it goes against his beliefs. Just like I believe it is wrong to throw some one out of church because the don't conform and I can guarantee you is happens often.

Dana - posted on 02/15/2011

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Emma, I imagine catholic gay couples would like to be married by a catholic priest in their church.

Good for Father Bob!

Stifler's - posted on 02/15/2011

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I got married in a Lutheran church but he's licensed under the Marriage Act of QLD or whatever it's called so we didn't have to be Lutheran or show baptism certs to get married in the Church. I'm pretty sure a marriage is not legal unless it's done by someone certified by the State anymore.

Anywho Father Bob is kind of cool and good on him but if a church is against gay marriage then why would people want to get married there if they were gay? Why fight about it when there's plenty of other's willing to do it who believe it's on the same level as marriage between a man and woman? No law will make the Church change their minds about that.

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