Do vaccines cause peanut allergies?

Cecilia - posted on 02/01/2013 ( 43 moms have responded )

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Plain and simple. Are routine immunizations the cause of the uprising peanut allergies?

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Jodi - posted on 02/02/2013

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I actually don't believe there is peanut oil in vaccines, because it would be required to be reported as an ingredient in Australia due to potential allergic reactions. Foods must be labelled as "may contain traces of nuts" too, for this exact reason. The Therapeutics Goods Administrations requires that any medicine with peanut oil in it (and there are some) MUST be identified. On page 25 of the "Substances that may be used in
Listed medicines in Australia" document, based on legislative measures, it quite clearly states that Arachis oil (peanut oil) is permitted in medicines but MUST be labelled as PEANUTS. I have checked the ingredients lists on some of the vaccines in Australia So these claims that people have that vaccines contain peanut oil but it isn't listed in the ingredients is simply not true.

http://www.tga.gov.au/pdf/cm-listed-subs...

The following link provides all medicines in Australia that contain "peanut oil", as it is required to be reported.
http://www.nps.org.au/search-result?coll...

Finally, arachis oil is actually a HIGHLY refined form of peanut oil, and has actually had the peanut proteins (the component of peanuts that causes the allergic reaction) removed through processing.

And before anyone gets all "conspiracy theorist" on me, the Therapeutics Goods Administration is an independent body in Australia, and independently does its OWN testing of products, and has absolutely nothing to do with the pharmaceutical companies, the US government, or any other person or organisation, just in case you wanted to go there.

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Jodi - posted on 04/12/2013

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"Good point, the former head of vaccines at Merck admitted the presence of Cancer-Causing SV40 and Bayer's own documents show they had HIV contaminated vaccines which they continued to knowingly sell (people are in jail for that now in some countries, not USA though)"

Lucy, I was joking. The HIV contamination is merely a hypothesis and has never actually been shown to be true. There is no-one in jail over it. Merck "admitted" to nothing. That video everyone is so hung up on was a poorly executed joke. If you watch it, there is some fact in it, but mostly there is a lot of sarcasm and laughing. Yes, a sick thing to joke about, but taken out of context. yes, there was an SV40 in the vaccine but only between 1955 and 1963, it was accidentally contaminated (not deliberately) because such small viruses were not detectable at the time, and there is actually no evidence that proves it has caused cancer. Some studies say it does, others say those studies are flawed and their evidence is that it doesn't. So you've got nothing. With regard to the monkeys, there is no evidence to say that the virus transmitted in the vaccines. If it did, then the AIDS virus would have shown in humans much sooner than it did.

Cecilia - posted on 04/12/2013

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"There must be something in our environment or life-style (or both) that is switching these genes ON, for this type of reaction."

I agree with that statement. What it is, I don't know. Could be pollution, could be GMO's as Jodi mentioned.. It could be the antibiotics we give to livestock. For all we know we are going through evolution. Maybe our bodies are turning more into carnivores, ever notice we don't have many meat related allergies?

I'm sure none of these things are beneficial for our body.

Lucy - posted on 04/12/2013

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Jodi "Not sure about the peanut allergies, but surely you've read how the pharmaceutical companies put AIDS and cancer-causing viruses in the vaccines and the government knows all about it, right? "

Good point, the former head of vaccines at Merck admitted the presence of Cancer-Causing SV40 and Bayer's own documents show they had HIV contaminated vaccines which they continued to knowingly sell (people are in jail for that now in some countries, not USA though)

Lucy - posted on 04/12/2013

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Dove "It's aliens. Definitely aliens. They give us allergies. They give us AIDS. They even screw up the engines in our cars....."

LOL, nice, the Pharmaceuticals would use that one if it worked, they'll try anything to divert our attention from the smoking gun of vaccination.

Jodi - posted on 04/12/2013

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There are many, many things that can contribute to this. I get so tired of hearing it is all about vaccines. The fact is, no-one KNOWS the actual answer and scaremongering based on what is not fact but correlation is not appropriate. You need to consider the way the diets of the animals have changed, the way we farm has changed (intense farming is only relatively recent), the way we use pesticides and herbicides, the way we PROCESS food has changed. Even something as simple as genetic engineering techniques used on our crops in order to increase yield could potentially have changed the chromosomal make up of our wheat or corn. This has been an ongoing issue in the 1900s. As an example, my mother can't eat regular wheat, but she CAN eat spelt, which is a sub species of wheat.

My point is, you can't just single out vaccines as the cause. Technologies have developed at such a rapid pace since the early 1900s that any one of those developing technologies could be a trigger for these allergies. Making statements such as "vaccines cause allergies" is simply not fact. It is a propaganda tactic.

Aleks - posted on 04/12/2013

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Jodi, you are not wrong with regards to the peanut theory. It definitively is very much a possibility, which I myself considered. However, how do you then explain the growth in severe allergies (which are also increasing in incidence, percentage wise) to dairy, eggs, wheat, fish and shellfish. These things have been in western consumption for a very long time.

Granted that with wheat, this grain has been highly altered in the last 100 yrs.

I don't have all the answers but I am just highly suspicious.

Jodi - posted on 04/11/2013

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Because it actually wasn't a food that was regularly consumed by humans in the western world until the early 1900s......just saying. In fact, until the 1930s, peanuts were most commonly used in animal feed. Although it WAS introduced as a human food in the late 1800s, it was not common. It was only in the 1980s that peanut production increased by such a large rate due to human consumption becoming so common at that time.

So linking it to vaccines is a bit silly really when you consider the history of human consumption of peanuts. Of course cases of peanut allergy are going to increase if the consumption increases. That's just common sense. But instead, the anti-vaccine movement has had to take common sense and use it to fuel their agenda.

Aleks - posted on 04/11/2013

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"Yes if you give a child peanuts who has the genetics for it. It will go bad."

Ok... one more thing with regards allergies and genetics. While, yes there appears to be a definitive genetic link for allergies, why is it that for so many years people have been able to eat all sorts of peanuts, and only now they are becoming the problem substance??
Same goes for the other known allergens? Have been fine for so long, and now all of a sudden (especially in the developed world) BAM! Not to say that there was no anaphylaxis with allergies in the past. That would be silly to think this. I am sure there was, but you would assume (if it is gene specific only), then these people would have mostly died out.

So something is a-miss. There must be something in our environment or life-style (or both) that is switching these genes ON, for this type of reaction.

Jodi - posted on 04/11/2013

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Cecilia, lactose intolerance is not an allergy. Intolerances and allergies are two totally different things. Just saying.

Aleks - posted on 04/11/2013

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Cecilia Bailey,

While I don't have all the answers, and I certainly don't ascribe to hard-line thinking of for or against vaccinations. However, I do have a very sceptical and questioning nature. I do not just blindly believe in everything I am being told, nor do I go out and believe every conspiracy theory either (I question those too).

However, I would like to point out that even though peanut oil has been used in vaccines for a while, you have to look at the way
1. it was incorporated into the vaccine (I don't know, I am not a biologist, nor an immunologist, etc)
2. the number of vaccines administered to an idividual
3. age at which this administration occurred.

One thing I would like to point out, is the fact that wide-spread use of immunisations did not start until after world war II - ie, the baby-boomers being the first generation that wide-spread use of vaccinations started. And even then, the amount of vaccines given to any one individual was not as much as it is currently. I would also suspect that most were probably given at a far older age than currently - ie, some were administered to babies, most were probably given to toddlers and school aged kids. NOT NEWBORNS AND INFANTS like is currently practiced. (sorry for the caps - please read as you would bold text, not as shout).

With the success of the vaccines in post war years (remember that with war comes disease mainly due to displaced populations, cramped living conditions and very poor sanitation), the program started to be extended more and more - even though our standards of sanitation just kept on getting better. To the point of what we have currently.

Who is to say that our parents' immune systems were not some how compromised by vaccines (but it just did not become visible, because there was no actual triggers yet). They then gave birth to us, passed on the compromised immune system, we too got vaccinated, even more so than our parents did. Therefore, compounding the compromise to our immune system even further. Now, we have passed on all of the compounded compromise of our immune system to our kids and then keep on adding to it with ever more vaccines - starting ever more earlier.

I know this is a theory that is a bit out there... but honestly, so is the one claiming "sterile way of life" as currently hypothesised by scientists (and outlined by Mary N earlier), as I am sure there are plenty of kids who live on a farm (and are exposed to all of the germs and bacteria that this hypothesis claims we don't have access to anymore, therefore, letting our immune system get bored and make up stuff to fight) and still get strong allergies to substances.

Like I said before, while I don't claim to know everything, nor thoroughly understand all the ins and outs of immunisations. Just like I don't know nor understand all of the ins and outs of our human immune system - but neither do our imminent scientists, they are still continuing to discover new things about it and how wonderful this system truly is.
I am only sharing my opinion and also what I am starting to suspect and believe. I am open to reading new information to form and, when needed, change my mind and hence my opinions too. I have done it before.... at this point in time, with the information I hold and have read, I am coming to the conclusion that immunisations unwanted effect on our society is to increase the incidence of strong allergies in kids (and even now adults).

ETA - edited for clarifications, spelling and grammatical errors.

Cecilia - posted on 04/11/2013

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peanuts were made into oil starting 1800.
1901 -first food allergy reported (milk)
1919 -they use peanut in vaccines
Google books, the “Peanut Allergy Answer” book says that there was no research in the field of peanut allergy until 1976
1988 - four people died of peanut allergy

so it took 188 years to kill 4 people. 69 years from the time the oil was used in vaccines for there to be an allergy reported and studied.

okay with that said. everyone blames all the food allergies on shots. How then do we explain the fact that 118 years before it was used in shots there is reported food allergies?

I personally know that genetics play a very large part of food allergies. Many, many, many, American Indians have a lactose intolerance. I have one. Guess what? I know it is genetics. Had nothing to do with the fact that my mother tried to breast feed me. When she breastfed me it was bad for me, because of genetic factors. Yes if you give a child peanuts who has the genetics for it. It will go bad.

Jodi - posted on 02/25/2013

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@ Dale, no. She is too young for anything but breastmilk or formula. At 2 months, it is normal to be hungry, she is a growing baby. She needs feeding regularly, even at night.

Dale Von - posted on 02/25/2013

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Would like to know if I can put a tablespoon of ceral in my daughters bottle at night to help her sleep beta. She always seems to be hungry and she is only 2 months old.

Jenny - posted on 02/05/2013

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No, there are many cases of children having peanut allergies and they did not have immunizations.

Cecilia - posted on 02/04/2013

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Mary, never heard the theory but it does make perfect sense. Over protection is a bad thing.

Mary - posted on 02/04/2013

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To the best of my knowledge, no one has come up with any indisputable, definitive cause for why food allergies - especially peanuts - are on the rise.

Out of all of the articles and literature I've read on this, the hypotheses that make the most sense suggest that it is a combination of factors that are causing this, and not just one single factor. Vaccines, more "sterile" home environments, increased usage of antibiotics, less time spent outdoors...all of these are things that together, may mean that our immune systems are "bored". They have less natural organisms to combat, and allergies are a sign of an immune system gone haywire; in other words, they didn't have anything to do, so they created their own enemy to fight.

Experts that subscribe to this theory say that the child most at risk for developing food allergies is one that is either an only or oldest child. They live in a financially stable or affluent family in a more urban environment, and most likely don't have any family pets that go outdoors. Their parents are vigilant in maintaining routine preventative care, and are also more likely to whisk Jr off to the doctors for every little cold or virus, and to over-utilize antibiotics. These parents also swim in hand sanitizer, and every household cleaner used is anti-microbial. Toys are sanitized on a regular basis. In short, these children are living in as close to a sterile bubble as their parents can construct.

Claiming that vaccines ALONE are the cause of rising allergy rates is simply unfounded, and there are no studies to support that belief.

Jodi - posted on 02/03/2013

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It's just a correlation though. Has it occurred to anyone linking allergies to vaccines that it may actually be linked to processing chemicals in foods? Chemicals fed to the animals in the meat we are eating? There are any NUMBER of things that have changed in the last 20-30 years, not just vaccines, that could be contributing towards all of these things. Without explicit testing of each individual hypothesis, you could not possibly draw conclusions.

Aleks - posted on 02/03/2013

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I have no proof of this... but I am starting to seriously believe that the current immunisation schedule practiced in the western world is the cause of the hyper-explosive growth in serious allergies (not just to peanuts but other foods, like eggs and dairy, even citrus fruit) with anaphylaxis....

It seems that the most developed countries seem to be the only ones that are afflicted with this growth in anaphylaxis allergies, and these most developed countries are also the ones with the most intense immunisation programs - starting at just a few hours old (here in Australia an infant is barely a few hours before they get the jab with Hepititis B vaccine - why??? hmmm....good question, I still haven't figured out why a newborn needs to be immunised for Hepititis B... but , yeah.....).
I have just today looked at the schedule of vaccinations for babies - at 2mths old, then at 4 and then at 6mths of age the baby gets immunised for no less than 8 diseases at a time!!!! YEP - 8!!! That is freaking scary! All in all, by the time the child finishes kindergarten (at age of around 5) s/he has had 26 seperate vaccinations!!! http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/intern...

These babies' immune systems are not developed nor mature enough yet to even exist seperate to their mothers (yes, breastfeeding confers a lot of immunity to the baby, more than has of recent been realised; the extent to which is still being studied and discovered slowly by scientists). The child's immune system is not fully mature until around the age 6-7, and we have already attacked it to no end... not just with immunisations, but also through all the pollution too - but somehow, in the underdeveloped world, the pollution is sometimes so much worse than here in the developed world, and yet they do not seem to have the allergy problem.

I mean seriously, immunisations work by activating the immune system into action and attack of the bacteria/virus. But what if that system is not yet ready to cope with this???? Could it possibly send it haywire and out of control? May be this (serious allergies or frequent allergies) is the symptom of a damaged immune system?
This damage just may be caused by something that activates it/over activates it too early with too much????
There has already been suspicions of the vaccinations increasing the incidence of auto-immune diseases, too.

I am, by no means, against vaccinating. Though I do have an issue with the way it is being done at the moment. I disagree with the schedule of it, and which vaccines are done and when.
May be if we slowed down the schedule.... gave only one vaccine at a time.... may be that would help alleviate(spell?) the problem of anaphylactic allergies?????

I believe so.

Cecilia - posted on 02/03/2013

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They have proven they have risen by quite a bit. The thing is as of yet no one knows why. My best guess would say it's our environment (pollution) or simple genetics.

Becky - posted on 02/03/2013

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WellIi feel all allergies seem to be on the rise. My little guy isn't allergic to anything (that we know of) and he heats all different kinds of food. But it seems like just about everyone else I know who has kids either has a child with dairy, eggs, nuts (peanut or tree nut) or gluten allergies. And I have one friend who has 3 boys one is allergic to dairy and eggs, one isn't allergic to anything and the third is allergic to tree nuts.

Dove - posted on 02/03/2013

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Oh yeah... cancer. Don't feel left out. The aliens are destroying my vehicle and I sure don't feel special..... @@

Cecilia - posted on 02/03/2013

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Dove you forgot cancer. They give us cancer also! The truth is though there is nothing we can do to stop them. What are we going to do, hide? Although i guess if we don't have AIDS, cancer, or allergies aliens haven't abducted us, yet.

Really though now i'm mad. What makes these people so special? Why havn't the aliens visited me or my family. We're just as good as the ones they choose. Now i'm going to have to eat dinner being all mad. That isn't good for digestion.

Dove - posted on 02/03/2013

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It's aliens. Definitely aliens. They give us allergies. They give us AIDS. They even screw up the engines in our cars.....

Cecilia - posted on 02/03/2013

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Oh god i now need to look that up. I Thought you got AIDS by having unprotected sex, or using unclean needles. I guess that might be people's way of not admitting they were wrong and messed up and now have a consequences.

Jodi - posted on 02/03/2013

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Not sure about the peanut allergies, but surely you've read how the pharmaceutical companies put AIDS and cancer-causing viruses in the vaccines and the government knows all about it, right? Yes, maybe it IS an alien cover-up.

Cecilia - posted on 02/03/2013

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wait.. so the government wants our children to have peanut allergies? Are peanuts alien crops or something? It always seems to go back to aliens, just saying.

Jodi - posted on 02/03/2013

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I'm sure you will find out plenty of other wonderful unverified information on anti-vax sites. And then, you will see people debating the issue with comments like "the big pharma's don't tell you and don't disclose this information, but it is true". You know what? if it was true, there would be far more empirical evidence. But not one person I have EVER questioned on the matter has actually been able to bring forth empirical evidence that their claims actually have some level of scientific basis. If they could, there absolutely WOULD be independent studies of the contents of the vaccines, and the contents aren't that complex that they couldn't be extracted, tested and verified.

Oh, but of course, it's a government conspiracy. I forgot about that one.

Cecilia - posted on 02/02/2013

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Yes i had to go to an anti-vax site to find which one they are saying has it in there. I couldn't find it on a medical site of any sort. I will even amuse the thought that our government lies to us. They do it all the time. But I think by this point someone would have done private testing and published it medically by now too...

the anti-vax sites is how i found out it seems that shots can shake a baby hard enough to cause brain damage... How about we look at the idea that the parents maybe did it?

Jodi - posted on 02/02/2013

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Have a look at the sources of all of those articles you are reading - I think you will find the majority are anti-vax sites (yes, I've read quite a few of them). It isn't listed as an ingredient in any of the vaccines. It is an un-mitigated claim, and there is no evidence. And if it isn't listed as an ingredient, you can bet your arse it would show up in tests if it was in there and not declared, and in this country, that would be illegal. Seriously, don't you think there would be an actual medical article where the vaccine was properly tested and checked for peanut oil as an ingredient if it were true? I am yet to find a single article that provides proof of the inclusion of arachis oil in vaccines.

Cecilia - posted on 02/02/2013

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Honestly i'm having a hard time finding which shots are meant to have this oil in it. Maybe someone who knows can let me know.[never mind i found it, its HIB] All articles i'm reading pretty much say all of them can. What i have found is that it used to contain them. And i didn't know this but shots seem to cause baby shaken syndrome also.....

Jodi - posted on 02/02/2013

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I believe that is the technical term for those "aborted fetal cells" they all refer too. It doesn't actually contain them, it contains virus that was grown on the cell lines of aborted human fetuses.

Cecilia - posted on 02/02/2013

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a bit freeked out by the one saying human diploid cells. In MMR and in HepA.

Jodi - posted on 02/02/2013

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I find it very hard to believe, with that list where they quite clearly declare trace amounts of other inactive ingredients, that they would decide to hide arachis oil. And I know that is what is claimed by certain people who believe that it causes peanut allergies.

Cecilia - posted on 02/02/2013

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There is "some" peanut oil in vaccines. Less than what a baby would get if the mother ate one handful of peanuts. And it's only the one shot (that i know of) which contains it.

I'm not saying everyone should give their kids shots. Do what you think is right. If you're avoiding shots because of a possible peanut allergy i think it's crazy. I'd much rather my child have a peanut allergy than to have pertussis, measles, mumps, the list goes on and on. Let's not forget HPV. That shot has outrageous side affects. Guess what, gave it to my 12 year old. The prevention of cancer is worth the side affects. Nothing is as bad as chemotherapy.

Amanda - posted on 02/02/2013

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All of my kids have been immunized and all of them eat peanut products without any problems. I call Bull.

Dove - posted on 02/01/2013

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I know why you posted this. ;) lol

I ate peanut products all throughout pregnancy and breastfeeding, so if vaccines 'caused' peanut allergies by exposing children to peanut oil (never knew vaccines had that before that post though...)... wouldn't it stand to 'reason' that eating peanut products while pregnant or breastfeeding would also 'cause' peanut allergies.

I know very few kids with peanut allergies, but lots of moms who love peanut butter and have vaccinated kids.....

And yes, I'm aware there is nothing scientific about my response.... just baiting the 'trolls'. lol

Cecilia - posted on 02/01/2013

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BTW i have 5 children. All of which eat nuts of all sorts soon as they learn to chew them well enough. They were all given shots on schedule. Not one of my children have any food allergies. My 2 year old does have allergies to certain red dyes but i don't count dye as food. This is also counting the fact that i am allergic to protein in milk, that didn't get passed on thankfully.

Cecilia - posted on 02/01/2013

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Most children are exposed to peanuts way before vaccinations.

"Nearly 50% of the women had peanut protein in their breast milk. The protein appeared within one to six hours of eating the nuts and disappeared quickly from the milk of most women. Both of the peanut allergens appeared in the milk."

http://www.webmd.com/allergies/news/2001...

Also, how many parents give Tylenol after shots are given? This could be why it is showing up after shots. Or could simply be because they got more than two doses of peanut oil within a 24 hour period.

"And children's Tylenol contains glycerine which is often made from peanuts.

So, my first conclusion about antibiotics and peanut allergies is the antibiotic contains minute particles of peanut protein. When you give an antibiotic to a very young child whose “gut is porous”, the peanut protein leaks into the bloodstream and causes an allergic reaction."

http://www.peanutallergy.com/blogs/gener...

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