Does sex education mean more teenage pregnancies?

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By Peter Hitchens-Daily Mail

Sex education has failed. So the Establishment decrees that we must have more of it, and in fact that there shall be no escape from it.

What I don’t grasp is why the people of this country put up with so many separate insults to their intelligence in any given week.

And why this particular blatantly obvious sequence comes round year by year and nobody even laughs, let alone draws the correct conclusion.

Despite the casual massacre of unborn babies in the abortion mills, and the free handouts of morning-after pills (originally developed for pedigree dogs which had been consorting improperly with mongrels), and the ready issue of condoms to anyone who asks, and the prescription of contraceptive devices to young girls behind the backs of their parents by smiling advice workers, and the invasion of school classrooms by supposedly educational smut, the Teenage Pregnancy Strategy has failed, is failing and will continue to fail.

In the week that figures clearly showed that the Government’s supposed target for cutting teen pregnancy by half is never going to be reached, compulsory smut education – a key part of this ‘strategy’ – was forced on all English schools by law for the first time.

There will be no opt-outs. The new liberal gospel of ‘do what thou wilt – but wear a condom while thou doest it’ will be taught by order of the State.

Some years ago, I wrote a short history of sex education in this country. I didn’t then know about its first invention, during the Hungarian Soviet revolution of 1919, when Education Commissar George Lukacs ordered teachers

to instruct children about sex in a deliberate effort to debauch Christian morality.

But what I found was this. That the people who want it are always militant Leftists who loathe conventional family life; that the pretext for it has always been the same – a supposed effort to reduce teen pregnancy and sexual disease; and that it has always been followed by the exact opposite.

It was introduced into schools against much parental resistance during the early Fifties. And, yes, the more of it there was, the more under-age and extramarital sex there seemed to be.

By 1963, in Norwich, parents were told that their young were to be instructed in sexual matters because the illegitimacy rate in that fine city had reached an alarming 7.7 per cent (compared with a national rate of 5.9 per cent). The national rate is now 46 per cent and climbing, so that was obviously a success, wasn’t it?

Well, yes it was, because the people who force these peculiar classes on our young are lying about their aims. You can see why.

Most of us, in any other circumstance, would be highly suspicious of adults who wanted to talk about sex to other people’s children. But by this sleight of hand – that they are somehow being protected from disease and unwanted pregnancy – we are tricked into permitting it.

And our civilised society goes swirling down the plughole of moral chaos.

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I didn't write the article. I personally have not said that!!! I think theres a much bigger problem that he ignores. That being that their are many kids growing up in homes where their parents just don't care!

I agree with sex education. My only issue with it is only teaching child the mechanics. I feel the emotional aspects that comes with it needs to be addressed earlier. Instead, in this country (UK), they keep lowering and lowering the age in which to start sex education starts, and our rates of underage pregnancy are shooting up. God only knows how many kids are walking around with STIs and STD's because our sex education system, as it currently stands, is not working.

Amanda - posted on 03/10/2010

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Education is power. It is not a schools job to teach your child morals or self respect, I am so sick of people blaming schools for the short comings of parents. The only job the school has is to teach children the dangers and how to protect themselves from sex, and the only reason a school should do this, is because many parents do not teach their children these things. Sex ed in my area starts in grade 1 (of course done at the childs level) the nitty gritty sex ed starts in grade 5, the prefect age to start talking about life plans, explaining that sex can change those plans real fast. The most important thing about Sex Ed is it begains at home, and should start early in life.



I am so glad I started the basics of sex ed and my childrens bodys with them when they were young, it made it much eaiser when my daughter at age 8 got her first period. *SURPISE MOM!* lol.

Sara - posted on 03/10/2010

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I'm sorry, but this guy's attitude is a total turn-off for me and doesn't make me want to read more. When you use language like "abortion mills" and talk about the morning after pill developed for bitches who are consorting with mongrels, it's pretty obvious which way this guys views lean, and I don't appreciate it. I don't agree with him. I think that education is a powerful tool and to educate is to empower someone to make choices that are right for them. I care about family, and I don't think that sex education undermines the family. If you ask me, I think the real problem is that parents aren't taking an active role in teaching their kids some self-respect, that can't be taught in a classroom.



I can only assume that this guy would also think that all feminists are man-hating, non-armpit shaving manhaters, because he talks like he has no respect for women or women's right's because he thinks it has been the downfall of society. Douchebag. Sorry, but I found that article's language really hateful.

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Jess - posted on 03/11/2010

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My school had very comprehensive sex education. This included watching birthing video's, watching abortion video's, free condoms and STD testing and everything in between, we had it all !



Admittedly we had a teen pregnancies epademic at our school BUT..... most of those girl made missed most of the education because they had transferred in from other schools. So the students who had the education from grade 6 (age 11) were very well informed about sex, and the consequences and came out of high school without the tag of Mummy ! I think sex education is a great way to protect our children, male and female. When we know better.... we do better !

Veronica - posted on 03/10/2010

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I dont know how i really feel about school education -- i remember stuff in health class, and in 5th and 6th grade - (but it wasnt really much of anything). My parents weren't much for help either -- they were the ones that would say ' dont do it or else'.

The best education that I've gotten about sex, in my whole life thus far - was when my husband and I decided to go through Natural Family Planning. And I intend on using this as part of educating my children as well. It teaches self-control, self-respect -- fertility, and its just as effective as pills/patches, etc - when done right (just like taking the bc right) - 99.9% as well.

It not only strengthened our marriage, but gave us a new sense of purpose with children, and our family.



SO, I do agree that not enough parents are talking to their kids about more than just the sex part -- and I think so many parents are quick to throw birth control at their kids - and NOT say anything or enough but how to use/take it. You know what I mean?? There is a lot more to sex than just sex -- there is the emotional, mental -- there are responsibilities -- a child could come out of it, diseases could too - so therefore we need to show and help our children understand that - and help them outweigh having sex to abstaining from it.

Jodi - posted on 03/10/2010

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Actually Kelly, if you are using oral contraceptives "perfectly", the effectiveness is 99.7%, I am not sure where you are getting your figures from (8-10% failure rate is not even close). MOST of the reason teenagers have such a high pregnancy rate because of its use are because they are actually not using it properly (i.e. missing one here and there, not taking it at the same time each day, lack of awareness that antibiotics and other medications can nullify it, etc).



After all, the effectiveness of the pill is NOT less in teenagers, per se, but less because of higher likelihood of improper use.



It is actually highly unlikely, if people are using oral contraceptives properly AND using a condom, that they will get pregnant. So the example YOU gave of your high school graduating class is more than likely that these people were not using their contraceptives properly.



So basically, you were taught that birth control is 95% effective, because it actually is. What they needed to do was teach you how to read instructions properly. Because this is what let these people down.

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The sex ed in schools is horribly inadequate. I remember my sex ed classes (late 1990's)--we learned the basics in middle school, then in high school we learned about sex and contraceptives. This is what bothers me--In my class, ALL 4 YEARS, they told us that the birth control pill was 95% effective! They failed to mention that in teenage girls who took the pill perfectly effectiveness was 92% and over all effectiveness for teens could drop as low as 85%.

I graduated in a class of 256, with 16 girls who were either pregnant or already mothers and every single one of them was "on the pill." Given the boy:girl ratio I would estimate that to be about 8-10% of the girls in my class getting pregnant on the pill. That's about right when compared to the effectiveness.



Because of these poorly taught classes, kids think that if they are "responsible" and take a pill and use a condom they are not going to get pregnant, but they CAN and they don't know it.



I don't have a solution, but I definitely don't think taking sex ed out of schools would be it. Perhaps put more emphasis on the fact that birth control efforts can and will fail sometimes.



I do agree that sex ed should be taught in the home, but a lot of parent will not teach it, so we have to have public courses to fall back on.

Esther - posted on 03/10/2010

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[morning after pills] (originally developed for pedigree dogs which had been consorting improperly with mongrels)


That sounds pretty similar to the reason a lot of women use these pills. Seems appropriate.

Tah - posted on 03/10/2010

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A period at age 8...slap me now....but as i stated, I do talk to her, but you have to know your child. We talk about body parts and the difference and good touching and bad touching and that sort of thing..but actual sex, we haven't had that conversationg with her, I will no doubt have that talk with her, but the timing depends on the child also. I won't be leaving it up to school to do the teaching, cause the school don't have to pay for no babies that come up in here...

Jodi - posted on 03/10/2010

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I agree with Amanda 100%!!
Cathy S. are you kidding me?? Do you honestly think that if sex ed wasn't in the school system there would be no teen pregnancies?!
Sex is everywhere, whether we like it or not. Ignoring it is not going to make it go away. I don't know about everyone else, but I would MUCH rather my children have the opportunity to learn about it (of course at the appropriate level for the child's age) in a controlled environment than have my child find it on the internet or somewhere else that may not use the right amount of discretion for the maturity of the child.
Like Amanda said, it is the schools job to give them the facts, but it's the PARENTS that need to guide them to make the right decisions.

Rosie - posted on 03/10/2010

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i also feel that it's alot of the parents shortcomings when it comes to discussing this with your children. either they do it the wrong way - if i ever catch you having sex, you'll be grounded until your 80- or they don't do it at all.my parents never had "the talk" with me, but i always knew that having sex early wasn't what my parents wanted for me. that being said i had sex at age 14. nobody ever explained to me the emotional connection associated with sex. i had sex ed (not just what's a vagina or penis, but actual SEX) when i was a junior in highschool. while i think it's a great idea, i think it needs to be done earlier than that.

Tah - posted on 03/10/2010

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they sent home papers on the first day of school to discuss"family life" with the kids..I signed "no"..why?...because my daughter is 8...and if anybody is talking to her about that. It won't be you first..now we discuss things like inappropriate touching and things along those lines because i can't be with her 24.7 and she visits dad and his family in another state during holidays, but i thought that was very young, what surprised me is that she said that she was the only that had to go to another class during this, so everyone else thought it ok, for their 8 year olds...but we stand by our decision...

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Atleast he is talking to you!

I'm all for teaching kids about the biology and the risks and dangers. Kind of think we're missing the abstinence lessons too, here in the UK . It's not even a religious thing but too many people would complain if we allowed schools to educate children on morals and respecting their bodies as more than just machines made for sex.

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My oldest son is 11 he had his first sex ed class at school a few weeks back and when he came home he asked me when can he start having sex. I wonder if he thinks because they've told him in school about it he should be doing it now. Ive always been honest with him about sex from an early age but its only since the school class that hes been thinking that way. I tried to explain to him that he doesnt have to do it at all that he should wait until hes ready until hes in love but i think im talking to a brick wall now.

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My personal thought is maybe too much focus on the physical act (too young) and not enough on the emotional responsiblity and outcomes. Teaching kids how with out teaching them why, sort of theory!

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