Dog owners to get DNA tests if they don't pick up poop

Katherine - posted on 07/04/2011 ( 15 moms have responded )

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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/dna-sa...


Plagued with pets that do business in all the wrong places, dog owners in the Village of Abacoa, a condominium association of 458 units, must pay a $200 fee starting Aug. 1. The money will pay DNA Pet World Registry to take the dog's genetic fingerprint and keep the information on file.

Doggie droppings found in condo common areas will be collected and mailed in a plastic tube to the Knoxville, Tenn.-based company. If the poop matches the pooch, the owners can be fined up to $1,000. If they don't pay, a lien can be placed on their home, said Susan Nellen, property manager for Versa Property Management, which manages the condo near Roger Dean Stadium.

Not everyone supports the policy.

"This is nuts. They will be testing all kinds of poop. Is this America?" said Troy Holloway, who owns one of the condos.

But managers say they have no choice. Dogs are defecating and urinating in elevators, in stairwells, on carpets and in the lobby, as well as common areas outside. The condo association is spending $10,000 to $12,000 a year replacing and cleaning, said Matthew Brickman, president of the Village of Abacoa Condominium Association.

"The smell is disgusting. Residents are embarrassed to have company. Dog crap is everywhere," Nellen said.

The process works like this:

Beginning Aug. 1 and until Aug. 31, a dog owner must pay a $200 one-time fee for a swab to be taken from their dog's mouth. DNA Pet World Registry uses the swab to determine the dog's DNA sample. The dog is issued a identification tag to wear on its collar. Owners who pay after Aug. 31 will be charged $500.

A maintenance person from Versa Management will collect marble-sized samples found in restricted areas. The samples go in a leakproof plastic container about the size of a small perfume bottle containing DNA stabilization solution. The container is mailed to DNA Pet World, where the identification test is done.

If the illegal poop matches a registered dog, the owner can be fined. If the problem persists, the animal can be confiscated, Brickman said.

"It's not the dog's fault. Many are trapped inside all day while their owners work. That's why I don't have a dog," said Brickman, who lives in the condo.

He figures about 40 percent of residents own dogs.

The usual charge for signing up and testing a dog is about $90. That includes the swab, the container and the DNA matchup, said Eric Mayer, director of franchise development for PooPrints, a Knoxville-based company that works with DNA World Pet Registry.

The $200 to $500 per pet owner will defray cleanup costs and pay for doggie bags distributed free in the condo, Brickman said.

Feces identification is a booming business. DNA Pet World and PooPrints - its motto is "Match the Mess through DNA" - are spinoffs from BioPet Vet Labs. They started in October. By the end of the year, they expect 300 American franchises, Mayer said.

The process only works for feces. There is not enough DNA in urine to make a match, Mayer said.

Despite the high cost, the penalty might not prevent the problem, Holloway said.

And the expense will be a hit on residents on a tight budget. Holloway's tenant owns a teacup breed dog that weighs about 2 pounds.

"That's $250 a pound. That's an expensive dog," Holloway said.


Oh WOW! I can certainly see the reasoning behind this, but a lien on your house???? Come on! They're already getting fined up the butt, literally. I do have to say it's disgusting when people don't pick up their own dog crap. It's not that hard to do.

Just pick it up people!!!

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Lady Heather - posted on 07/04/2011

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Kate - aren't they matching actual DNA and not just breed testing? I don't think it's the same as those "what kind of dog do you have?" tests.

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Kate CP - posted on 07/05/2011

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I have no problem fining people for not picking up poop. It's the $200 processing fee for the initial DNA test to have their DNA on file so it can be cross-checked that I have a problem with. Now, if they made THAT the pet deposit I'd be okay with that. But I'm thinking it's a 200-300 pet deposit AND this fee for DNA processing.

Amanda - posted on 07/05/2011

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Oh they should do this for dogs in my area, and cats! I am so sick of finding dog poop and cat poop on my front lawn!

Becky - posted on 07/05/2011

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People who don't clean up after their dogs are one of my pet peeves. So gross! And to let your dog take a shit INSIDE the building and not clean it up??? Are these people complete cretans? I have no problem with this policy. If you're one who cleans up after your dog, well, it can't hurt to have your dog's DNA on file in case your dog ever goes missing! Kinda like having your child's DNA on file.

Amber - posted on 07/04/2011

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I like the idea too. If people weren't letting their dogs shit all over the property, the management wouldn't have had to implement these new rules.

I mean really? If you clean up after your dog, you'll never have to pay the fine.

Seems like a simple choice to me. Be a responsible dog owner and pick up their shit or be lazy and pay thousands of dollars in fines.

I own my house with a big yard. I have two huge dogs that I have to pick up after. There is no management walking around behind me taking care of it.

Amie - posted on 07/04/2011

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I don`t see the issue. The dogs are not going only outside but inside the building. If I was paying out the wazoo for a condo I'd expect it to be kept clean and odour free in the common areas too. I would be royally pissed if I walked into an elevator and saw a pee spot or turd. Train your pets, take care of them or don't get one. It's that simple.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 07/04/2011

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Actually, you know what? I HATE when I see people walking their dogs, they take a big fat steaming shit...and they just walk away like it never happened. Yup, I am one of those...if I see your dog do it and you don't pick it up...I am so calling you on it. I have stepped into way to many piles.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 07/04/2011

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From what I read it is like a DNA test on a human....take a swab from you, find a hair somewhere...test...match....it points back at you. When you poop, you shed wbc (white blood cells), and epi cells on your feces going out....there are also samples of your DNA in the poop. So swab the cheek, get it on file, then test the poop...same idea as the human matching system. I do think it is funny that they have to go to this extreme though. But they must be having a really big problem if they are going this far with it.

Minnie - posted on 07/04/2011

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That's what I thought, individual DNA.

But anyways, I secretly would love for something like this to happen; we're leaving our complex because I am SO SICK of forcing my daughters to stay on the walk ways because people's dogs leave turds everywhere So sick of it. It's not fair to dog owners in general; it makes me biased against dog owners and I know that they're not all like that. But now I see dog= poop on my shoe. Disgusting.

Katherine - posted on 07/04/2011

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Oooooo didn't think about that one Kate. But still, people should pick it up. And IMO they deserve everything they get for leaving it there.

Kate CP - posted on 07/04/2011

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BAHAHAHAHA! The problem with this plan? Mixed breed dogs! I have a friend who had this test done on her mixed breed dog. He LOOKS like a Pomeranian mated with a St. Bernard (very cute but odd). The results? Min pin and Boston Terrier were the primary breed contributors. The dog has long white, fluffy hair!



I would find it HILARIOUS to see them try to make this stand up in court. LOL!



Edited to add: Ah, I see they must take a preliminary sample to make a match. What a crock of shit (no pun intended). I have to pay $200 so you can find the assholes who DON'T pick up the poop? I have a better idea. How about you hire a pet butler for the complex and fine ALL of the tenants who don't pick up the poop. You'll get people yelling at others to pick up dog crap instead of letting it slide then.

Lady Heather - posted on 07/04/2011

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I actually kind of want to be the person who delivers the tickets.

And to the lady who complained about the high cost for her small dog - I say get a bigger dog and it won't seem like such a bad deal. hehe.

Katherine - posted on 07/04/2011

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I couldn't agree more. Actually, it IS kind of funny that they would put a lien on the house. They are cracking DOWN.

They should adopt this everywhere.

Lady Heather - posted on 07/04/2011

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Lien on the house is going too far. Otherwise I think it's hilarious and have no problem with it at all. I wish that was part of our licensing fee for the city. People here let their dogs crap on the sidewalk. Really? The fucking sidewalk? And at the park they have bags all along the dog walk area and how many people actually use them?

If you live in a condo and your dog craps on the lawn, that's definitely your fault. Your dog is unlikely to be able to Houdini it's way out of your home. So you stood there and watched your dog take a crap and didn't pick it up. No sympathy from me, owner of two dogs.

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