ESCORT SERVICE

Jenni - posted on 10/29/2010

Ok so about 99.9% of escorts are prostitutes. I have yet to meet one that isn't. As for high class escort agencies... saying that they act as dates for rich men is romantisizing it Julia Roberts style. Of course it does happen but those girls aren't exculsively "dates" they are expected to sleep with their clients when it is desired. If they didn't they'd be getting a lot of complaints to their agency and their management would probably suggest "this really isn't the right line of work for you".

Isobel - posted on 10/29/2010

the kind of escorts that advertise in underwear at the back of the paper...are prostitutes...let's just all clear that one up.

Chatty - posted on 10/28/2010

I'm not talking about escorts, I was refering to prostitution and I know the laws in Canada. Thanks though.

Umm, sorry - that sounded bitchy but I promise that's not my intention. I'm just not feeling well and probably shouldn't be posting. Thanks for the info.

Jenni - posted on 10/28/2010

Dana to clear it up: "In Canada, the buying and selling of sexual services are not illegal, but most surrounding activities, such as public communication for the purpose of prostitution, brothels and procuring are outlawed.



While the prohibition of the activities surrounding the sex trade makes it difficult to practice prostitution without breaking any law, the act of exchanging sex for money has never been illegal in Canada, a situation which has created and continues to create confusion and controversy"--wikipedia

And it is taxed... i stated that earlier in the post. Escorts are considered to be self-employed and have to purchase a business license. So they are expected to pay "some" taxes. But like a waitress or bartender a good portion of their earnings are gratuities. So how much they claim is up to them to disclose.

Kimberly - posted on 10/28/2010

How to be a Ho...

Rhea - posted on 10/28/2010

you're right. it's been a few years since Grade 12 law class.

Jenn - posted on 10/28/2010

@R Jongema - solicitation is not the taking of money for sex - that part is legal (taking money for sex) solicitation is ASKING someone for money. So if you have sex with someone and they want to pay you - it's legal. But to say "hey $50 for a blow-job" and it's illegal. But like I said before, it may very well be all legal soon.

Chatty - posted on 10/28/2010

:)

Kimberly - posted on 10/28/2010

It's the BEST medicine!

Chatty - posted on 10/28/2010

Kimberly, seriously - STOP! Stop being so fuckin' funny. I'm really sick and my stomach and cheeks hurt from laughin'.

Kimberly - posted on 10/28/2010

My husband says that MARRIAGE is legalized prostitution. haha I'm always extorting money from him. Or we bargain for sexual favors sometimes. I'm a high class paid Ho. Sometimes he'll even get an accent thrown in for extra measure.

Chatty - posted on 10/28/2010

Ok, but it's not legal in the true sense. Until the government is regulating and taxing it, it's not legal, IMO.

Kimberly - posted on 10/28/2010

What in the world is prostitution then?

Reminds me of the koala bear joke...

Koala Bear hires a hooker and only wants to go down on her. He is only down there momentarily and gets up and walks out the door.

Prostitute says,"Excuse me Mr. Koala Bear, aren't you forgetting something?"

He says, "No I don't think so."

Pro says, "Well then, I think you need to grab a dictionary and look up the word "prostitute".

He does and it reads:"Prostitute, noun, a person that exchanges sex for money."

So he says,"Well, then, I think YOU need to grab a dictionary and look up the definition of the word "Koala bear"".

And she does, and it reads: "Koala Bear, noun, a small marsupial that eats bush and leaves."

Rhea - posted on 10/28/2010

Prostitution is legal in Canada. Solicitation (accepting money for sexual services) is not.

Isobel - posted on 10/28/2010

always...living off the avails is illegal, running a bawdy house is illegal, solicitation is illegal...but prostitution itself has always been legal.

Toronto, however has deemed those laws to be unconstitutional and the matter is now headed to the Supreme Court.

Chatty - posted on 10/28/2010

Prostitution is legal in Canada? Since when?

Georgia - posted on 10/28/2010

Jenn, no I'm in Australia like Loureen and Kathy Sutherland. But it's interesting to note that two Commonwealth countries have legalised it, yet the "mother country" hasn't.

Jenn - posted on 10/28/2010

@Donna - are you in Canada? It's technically legal to be a prostitute as you can legally accept money for sex. It's been that way for a very long time. The thing is, pretty much everything else that goes along with it is illegal, like soliciting. That's why people get arrested. Though recently these laws have been challenged and may soon be changed so that it is totally legal. It makes more sense to me to legalize it.

Georgia - posted on 10/28/2010

Hell, I have no problem with her being a sex loving, herpes having street walker who pays taxes like the rest of us!

I still really dislike the term 'slut'. I cringe every time I see or write it.

Kimberly - posted on 10/28/2010

This poor "hypothetical" girl. She is probably a legit escort that lonely rich men take to the opera or charity functions, no sex involved, and here we have branded her a slutty, herpes havin, street walkin ho that needs to be taxed!

Georgia - posted on 10/28/2010

I didn't know prostitution was legal here! That makes me a bit confused though, because I know of an "underground" brothel in the city (no, I've never been there... OR worked there). (*edit: I was a stupid slut who gave it away for free :-\)



I like the idea of hooking being legal for tax reasons. The government could tax the crap out of it like they do smokes and alcohol! User tax... like an extra GST on top. Wow, when you talk about escorting everything starts sounding like a double entendre!

Georgia - posted on 10/28/2010

Jenn, I know what you mean.... My phase was from 28-35. Actually, I was just madly sowing wild oats before they went off!

Charlie - posted on 10/28/2010

And this is my point , a regulated escort has to pass all health exams once a month whereas your everday person can sleep with whoever may not ever get tested OR get their 2 yearly pap test or at best get tested once a year , this would make an Escort in a regulated industry a much safer , healthier option for kisses goodbye given they pass their monthly exam .

Kathy - posted on 10/28/2010

Loureen, your so right! Prostitution should be legal (it is in Australia) with all the OH&S regulations that entails.

Charlie - posted on 10/28/2010

Donna *sigh* that was a great post .


"Labels like "slut" actually disgust me. Why on earth do we label girls who have more than one or two or... how many is acceptable?... sexual partners, yet a man can have many, many notches on his bedpost and he is seen as a "stud" or just "sowing his wild oats"? Don't girls have wild oats too? Don't girls need to learn about their sexual likes and dislikes and experiment like boys? Or should they be cloistered and virginal until their wedding day? Ugh. And people wonder why there's such a high teen pregnancy rate."

Couldnt agree more Donna !

Jenn - posted on 10/27/2010

I have no beef with the term slut as I think most people go through their own slut phase in life. Mine was from 23-28. ;)

Georgia - posted on 10/27/2010

P.S. I don't even know this woman, obviously, but I am concerned for her health and well-being. I hope she is taking precautions to keep herself out of harms way... medically, mentally and physically.

Georgia - posted on 10/27/2010

Wow, I've only read the first page of responses and I think I get the gist of things.



This is an interesting question. The first part is more about disclosing a person's secret (like if you were to catch a friend's husband cheating, do you tell your friend?). There is a quiet, respectful way of doing this. Why not, the next time you and she are having a chat, just bring out the paper and show her the page you're talking about. Tell her, "I happen to see this in the local rag the other day...." and hand it to her. She will react and maybe even explain her situation. It will open up a chance for discussion at any rate. Because you don't know what her situation is, you shouldn't pass judgment from just an advert in the paper.



The second part of your post is interesting in another way. Yeah, she's been kissing your kids (you don't say that she's been kissing your kids on the mouth, so I won't assume so), but why is it a problem that she gives them a kiss goodbye? You're assuming she is sucking off every man in town for money, without actually KNOWING that she is. Escorts do more than just blow jobs... what about hand jobs??? Oh wait, better not let her even touch your kids!



Seriously though, she is the exact same person she was before you saw that ad. Do you suddenly want to disown her because you've seen this ad? If you'd never seen it, things would have continued in the same way they always have. At the same time, if you think about where people's mouths are... how many of us have ever given our husbands/boyfriends/partners blow jobs? Do we kiss our kids? If she (or anyone other than parents) is kissing your kids on the mouth, teach your kids to not kiss people on the mouth rather than police others.



What is it that you're afraid of happening if she gives your kids kisses? Hmm, maybe they'll turn out to become escorts too? I would actually try to talk to her about what she's doing, as someone who cares about her and her well being... not as some self-righteous prude. (*edit: I'm not calling YOU a self-righteous prude, it is meant to be a description of someone who is not interested in anything other than the 'escort' label, regardless of who she is*) Make sure she is safe and protecting herself at the very least.



If you think about it, she may have been escorting for a LONG time and you had no idea. Have your kids' toes fallen off? Are they diseased and pieces falling off them? No, so what makes anything different now?



As for the escort vs prostitute thing.... I do believe they are the same, and it should be legal everywhere. Then they can be tested, kept safe and taxed like the rest of us (who give it away for free... how smart is that?!).



Labels like "slut" actually disgust me. Why on earth do we label girls who have more than one or two or... how many is acceptable?... sexual partners, yet a man can have many, many notches on his bedpost and he is seen as a "stud" or just "sowing his wild oats"? Don't girls have wild oats too? Don't girls need to learn about their sexual likes and dislikes and experiment like boys? Or should they be cloistered and virginal until their wedding day? Ugh. And people wonder why there's such a high teen pregnancy rate.

Rhea - posted on 10/27/2010

1) I wouldn't tell her I know. If she didn't tell me, then I should let her have her privacy.

2) If I was worried about these kinds of things, I wouldn't let anyone that's had more than one sexual partner kiss my kids.

And to add to the debate about escort vs. prostitute, the difference is that the purpose of an escort is to "hire a date". It's not "dial a prostitute". One of my good friends was an escort, she told me all about what she did and wasn't one to leave out the gory details and there just weren't any.

Dana - posted on 10/27/2010

Haha, good I'm done now then. I just told a friend this might be the stupidest "debate" I've ever been in. I'm off for a bit, talk to you girls later. ;)

Jenn - posted on 10/27/2010

Well, I wasn't saying that I want some slut to kiss my kids - I'm just saying that you don't know who's a slut and who isn't. And while I do kiss my kids on the lips, the only other people who do are Brian (their Dad) and my Mum. Sometimes I think I just like to argue a point for no reason other than the sake of arguing LOL!

Chatty - posted on 10/27/2010

I'm not sure why people are wanting to kiss children on the lips? Unless they're close immediate family, I just don't get it? A kiss on the cheek isn't good enough? They insist on kissing on the lips? I gotta say, sorta creeps me out!

Dana - posted on 10/27/2010

Well, that's you, not me. :) The only people who kiss my son on the mouth are my close family anyhow...
I don't think I'll be letting a whore kiss my son on the mouth on the off chance that my 57 yr old MIL who doesn't even want sex, is sleeping around or that my married sister of 2 young kids is. lmao That's just funny to even imagine.

If you don't mind someone who sleeps around kissing your kid on the mouth, more power to ya.

Jenn - posted on 10/27/2010

I know my friends and family too - doesn't mean I know EVERYTHING about them. How do you know what they do in the privacy of their home or someone else's home? Not that I'm saying your friends and family are all tramps - but how would you really truly know? There's things I've done in my life that NOBODY knows about - no matter how well they think they know me.

Chatty - posted on 10/27/2010

Roxanne won't kiss on the lips. Not even me :( Solves my problem though! If you ask her for a kiss, she'll grab your face with both hands and plant a sweet lil' kiss on either cheek. Must be the Italian in her! lmao

Dana - posted on 10/27/2010

Because I know my friends and family...

Jenn - posted on 10/27/2010

@Dana - how do you know who sleeps around and who doesn't?

Sharon - posted on 10/27/2010

No. No kissing on the lips. Top of the head fine. No face.

Dana - posted on 10/27/2010

I wouldn't let anyone who was sleeping around a lot kiss my kid on the mouth. I'm surely not going to let a whore.

Jenn - posted on 10/27/2010

To anyone who is scared of where there mouth has been - that could be said of ANYONE kissing your kid. Do you know where you own Mother's mouth has been? How do you know she's not into some kinky shit? Just because you don't get paid for sex, doesn't mean you're not doin' the nasty ;)

Kathy - posted on 10/27/2010

Maybe she likes her job? None of my business.

C. - posted on 10/27/2010

Um, well.. As they say, you never really know until you're in that situation.. This is one of those situations.

I would (think) I'd just bring it up that I saw her in the newspaper (when just the two of us talking), and go from there and be non-judgmental about it. The kissing thing.. I think I would STRONGLY suggest that she blow my kids kisses from that point on b/c you never know where her mouth was on who. So to keep your kids safe and clean.. Kisses from afar.

Jennifer - posted on 10/27/2010

Personally the kissing wouldn't bother me, I personally wouldn't be friend with a prostitute fullstop. It's illegal in the UK and I understand why it is.

Jenni - posted on 10/26/2010

An escort is, no doubt about it, a prostitute. It's legalized and regulated prostitution. I can't speak for other areas but we have escort services in Canada. I'm all for them. Prostitution has existed since the beginning of man. I'd rather it be behind closed doors than on the street where everyone has to witness it. I'm not saying that in Canada we don't have street hookers but it's usually because they do have a disease or have a major drug addiction. Escorts must be tested for STDs and if they have one they cannot get an escort's license. Yes they are licensed and considered to be self-employed which means they have to pay taxes as well.
I'd for sure still allow a relative or friend who was an escort to kiss my children because I know for a fact if she is one she is clean. Now a slutty friend might be a different story ;)
I wouldn't say anything to her if I seen it. She obviously doesn't feel comfortable telling me herself or isn't ready to tell me. That would be the only problem I had with it, if she is ashamed of what she does then she shouldn't be doing it. If she is confident about it and enjoys her work, who am I to judge.

Kimberly - posted on 10/26/2010

I love this idea too- "let's just bubble wrap our kids and be done with it lol."

Love bubble wrap! I don't need no stinkin' hair piece! jes keeding mang.

Toni - posted on 10/26/2010

I know Loureen let's just bubble wrap our kids and be done with it lol.

Toni - posted on 10/26/2010

That's your choice to make.

Charlie - posted on 10/26/2010

This is why the sex trade should be legal to keep medical records and monthly health checks but going by the paranoia on this thread hows about we just dont let anyone kiss your kids .

Kimberly - posted on 10/26/2010

Hmmm, they probably kissed me on the lips as a kid- can't really recall but I kiss my mom on the lips sometimes now. The decision for us not to kiss our daughter came from the nurse relaying that horror story I posted earlier. No need to even take the chance. It's just not worth it- to me.

Toni - posted on 10/26/2010

There you go, see that would explain it. Of course your not going to let an escort kiss your daughter on the lips then.

Can I ask a personalish question (feel free to tell me no) did your parents kiss you on your lips as a kid? Or is it a decision you and your partner made based on your perceived risk level?