Grains!

Kate CP - posted on 06/04/2011 ( 23 moms have responded )

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I'm talkin' wheat, sorghum, rice. Refined, raw, processed, bleached, whole...all the different possibilities. My question is...do we REALLY need them in our diets?

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Katie - posted on 06/04/2011

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Waffles are one of my favorites. I got an awesome recipe from Quinoa 360 for waffles and the recipe for pizza crust in that book will forever be the only one I use. Last week we tried flourless chocolate cupcakes, no oil, low sugar and a whole ton of quinoa blended up into the mix. Quinoa tabbouleh is yummy, with tons of fresh veggies and herbs and some light feta. It's great in eggs (scrambled or omeletts.) Sprouting it and using it on sandwiches is super yummy. Even just putting it in the oven on a baking sheet with some oil and garlic powder and sprinkling it on cottage cheese or a salad is delicious.
I would recommend getting the quinoa 365 cookbook. It has a lot of good basic recipes in it that can be tweaked to suit your families likes and nutritional needs. If you want any actual recipes without doing any cookbook purchasing just message me and I would be happy to send you some.

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Yes we do need grains in our diet. Whole grains that is. Nothing bleached or refined. The only time you don't need them or certain ones is when you have a sensitivity or allergy to them. I tried the no carb thing and boy did I feel like shit. I need to have a healthy balanced diet. I prefer to follow the weight watchers plan so I can make sure I am eating all the right nutrients my body needs. Here's a few links about whole grains.

http://www.wholegrainscouncil.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_grain

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/whole-g...

Katie - posted on 06/04/2011

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Oh I just thought of another dish that is fantastic with quinoa! Mulligatawny soup with lots of curry. Instead of using any rice I throw in some quinoa and a bit of farro. It The farro makes the soup extra creamy without having to use any dairy (sometimes I throw a can of coconut milk in at the end because I love it) and if you get the timing with the quinoa right it still has a teensy bit of a crunch and it really adds something to the soup. Serve it with some homemade naan (I haven't tried all quinoa flour naan yet, but I am experimenting with a mix between quinoa and whole wheat.) lol. I am an enthusiast, can you tell :)

Katie - posted on 06/04/2011

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QUINOA! yay. I put it in EVERYTHING. It is rare that we will go more then two days without having some form of quinoa. Farro is also a new favourite! mmm.

Amy - posted on 06/04/2011

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Need? I don't know. I sure love my wild rice!! I also love my oatmeal. Love quinoa, couscous. Stuff like that. Not so into wheat.

Atkins diet can be really hard on the liver after a while. don't stay on it forever.

There's a lot of stuff I don't NEED in my diet. But, i do love my breyer's ice cream!! lol.
I'm more for not needing refined sugars, msg, high fructose corn syrup.....stuff like that. I watch that way more than I'd ever care about grains. Although I do make sure that I have quality grains.

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Lady Heather - posted on 06/04/2011

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I definitely agree with that Rebecca. I don't have a gluten problem, but reducing my gluten and switching to brown rice exclusively did wonders for my fibromyalgia. I think it was a case of my overall health improving so I was better able to handle the illness.

Mrs. - posted on 06/04/2011

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I have gluten issues so I can only tolerate kamut, spelt and the like. I also only eat brown rice. It really did change my health for the better to give the rest of it up because I had big time inflammation issues.

When my fiance started seeing me, he started eating the stuff I had at my place and found he was feeling better too. I have a feeling it might not be that bad for people without gluten issues too.

Lady Heather - posted on 06/04/2011

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Haha. I have eaten bread and fruit nearly exclusively today. I'm having cocoa now. My first break from the trend.

Normally I'm not a big bread eater, but I really appreciate a GOOD bread and I could never give it up.

Becky - posted on 06/04/2011

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I did Atkins and couldn't stick to it. I got bored. Plus, while I eat meat, the only meat I actually like is chicken and some fish, so it was just too much meat for me. I did lose weight though. Anyways, I don't know about needing grains, but I'd be very sad to give them up! When I'm pregnant, there are alot of days when carbs and fruit are all I can stomach!

Kate CP - posted on 06/04/2011

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Lisa: If you're going by the actual Atkin's diet verbatim then fruits are off the list and some veggies, too. But because I'm nursing (and I like fruit too much) I've stuck to just cutting out grains and starches and cutting back on fruits. So instead of a whole apple I'll have half an apple at a setting; things like that. With ketoacidosis you'd have to be in ketosis for a LONG time. People who don't do Atkins properly or have a bad reaction to it (as some people may 'cause nothing is perfect for everyone) may get ketoacidosis. But if you do Atkins the RIGHT way, you get into ketosis and stay in the low levels of ketosis until you're done losing the weight. Then you alter your diet to get out of ketosis but maintain your weight. It's a whole life-style change and if people try to go back to eating the way they did before they went on Atkins they could get REALLY sick.

Minnie - posted on 06/04/2011

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So Kate: is their definition of carbohydrates anything grain-based, basically? Because vegetables and fruits are definitely carbohydrates.



My concern about the Atkins always was fatal ketoacidosis.



It's funny, I personally feel horrible if all I have eaten are starches and grains. My BP goes down, I get cold and clammy, the shakes, lose my vision. Grains just completely mess up my metabolism.



Corn, yeah, not much of that is good for you. Minimal nutrition and typically GMO!

Lady Heather - posted on 06/04/2011

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Maybe there are some people who can live without them, but I'd be starving all the time. Must be my Scottish ancestry. Must have oats.

Bonnie - posted on 06/04/2011

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I don't know if we REALLY need them. They are good though and I can't go without them, so yes, I REALLY need them.

Kate CP - posted on 06/04/2011

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Some info about the Atkins diet:

When you first start the Atkins diet you're supposed to drop your carb intake to 20 grams or less per day for 2 weeks to get you into ketosis (where your body burns fat stores instead of carbs for energy). A prolonged state of ketosis is bad for your kidneys so you're not supposed to do this for a long time. When you start the induction phase of the diet (the 20 grams of carbs or less per day) you WILL feel like shit- what many call the "induction flu" it does pass after 3 days or so. This is the period where you're actually detoxing from all the sugar in your body. We consume SO much sugar on a daily basis that we are literally addicted to it. It may not be actual "sugar" that you're eating, but when you eat starches like corn and wheat they break down into sugar.

Because I'm nursing I never did the induction phase of the diet. What I did was cut out all refined grains (including whole grains) and upped my veggie intake and limited my fruit intake. A typical dinner for me USED to be:

spaghetti and meatballs with a salad

NOW I have:

Meatballs with faux-potatoes (cauliflower) and a sun dried tomato cream sauce with a side of salad. That's actually a minimal amount of fat (but enough to satisfy me), very low carb (about 10 grams total including salad dressing and tomatoes in the sauce), and a lot of veggies with one protein source. It's actually a really healthy meal. This way if eating is much healthier than the way I was eating before. I'm still getting energy sustaining carbohydrates, but they're coming from vegetables and fruits NOT refined wheat and corn products.

Minnie - posted on 06/04/2011

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I say no, not biologically, because grains are something that have to be highly processed for our bodies to utilize. And they mess with our metabolisms. We try not to eat too many grains in our family. Whole grains are better, of course, but not by much.

That being said, I haven't heard many good things about the Atkins diet. But they might not be giving the whole picture. Is it high in animal protein, and low in all carbohydrates, including vegetables and fruit?

IMO, a healthy diet is one that consists of a high percentage of vegetables and fruit, rounded out with meat and eggs, all in as close to a natural state as possible. I'm not religiously against grains, that would be obsessive, but I certainly don't follow the FDA food pyramid of them being our staple.

I'm hypoglycemic and grains are definitely something that play into that for me. Whole grain or not.

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Katie, can you suggest some ways, or recipes where you most enjoy QUINOA? Love it, but I'm always looking for new ways to incorporate it.

Kate CP - posted on 06/04/2011

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I'm on the Atkins diet and I'm losing weight. I *love* this diet because it actually works and it's a life-style change I can live with.

When I get to my goal weight I can start adding whole grains back into my diet and I do look forward to the occasional bowl of oatmeal or a whole-wheat turkey sandwich. But for now, I'm happy living grain-free. :)

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I honestly don't know. But I LOVE my grains! My husband is on his own version of the sugar busters diet, which means no starchy foods...so no corn for us. But we do eat plenty of whole wheat bread and pasta and brown rice. He's lost about 20 lbs since January...and all we've cut from the diet is corn and potatoes and refined sugars. Amazing. Of course, I haven't lost any...unless you count the eight lb baby I pushed out as losing weight.

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W/out grains.... I'd make myself sick long before I'd ever make myself full. Fruits and veggies are definitely good, but I HAVE to have starches and protein or it is not a pretty picture.

ME - posted on 06/04/2011

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I try to avoid the bleached and processed grains, but whole grains (cereal, bread, rice, etc...) are a staple of my diet...I'm a vegetarian...Can't just eat dairy and fruit all day long...

Rosie - posted on 06/04/2011

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lmao, YES!!!!! i thought about bringing this here too kate, hehe.
whole grains are a great source of fiber, they also help lower your cholesterol and your risk of coronary disease.
getting your carbs from vegetable or fruit sources can cause too much sugar intake. of course you need fruits and vegetables, but you eat the recommended amount of those, AND you still need fiber and the artery unclogging ability of whole grains without the added sugars. :)

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