Harry Potter

Sara - posted on 07/17/2009 ( 53 moms have responded )

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Ok, so I just got back from lunch with a couple of co-workers. They were talking about how their sons aren't going to see the new Harry Potter movie because it "promotes witchcraft" and that will "plant the seeds to endorse that kind of behavior". I was a little taken aback by this...so I asked "Don't you think your children (ranging in age from 7-13) know the difference between fantasy and reality? To which they said no because their boys tend to act out things that they see. Well, I then I asked if they let their kids watch "Transformers" or "Star Wars", because those movies are quite violent, to which they said that yes, their kids do watch those movies and while they don't like the violence, it's ok. Huh? I had to end the convo right there because I didn't want to argue with them, but WTF? This coming from people who have never even read the Harry Potter books or seen the movies. I just don't get it. Thoughts?

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Savannah - posted on 07/20/2009

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I am a christian but I LOVE Harry Potter! I have all of the books and can't wait until the movie comes out so I can buy it. I have no problem with it at all! So what if it talks about witchcraft? Its fantasy! Its make believe. It's supposed to be fun!

Angie - posted on 07/20/2009

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I am not a fan of Harry Potter...and I also see where most Christian are against it. I am a born again Christian, but I think it is a good idea to let your children (age appropriate) watch those fantasy movies. They can be taught whats fictions verse real. It also helps with their imagination (which is always a good thing and kids these days lack). I do love Twilight, I ignore the fact the Edward is a Vampire and he is going to Hell...(I guess thats the only way to put that). I think it is also good for your kids to see both sides and that they can determine what they believe.

Don't get me started on what the government is banning...cuz that is a whole other subject!!!!!

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Posted by Loureen Kelly (yesterday, 10:01 pm)



I am a twilight JUNKIE !!! i read all four books in four days when i was pregnant !

mind you i hated the movie , it did no justice to the books .

* ducks for cover from angry movie fans* lol



Loureen, I agree with you! I jumped on the Twilight bandwagon rather late because my babysitter nagged me to death about reading it. And then I couldn't get enough of the books and read them so fast back to back. Neglected my family for the week! The movie didn't even measure up and I was disappointed after I saw it. It's in my queue on Netflix cause I'm willing to see the movie again before New Moon comes out.

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My godness! lol I think part of the new generation of parents want to "bubble wrap" their kids, cut out any thing that is "bad" ifluences eg Harry Potter.

What about much loved Matilda? she did magic? Remember Goosebumps?. Or what about TNMNT?



If it hadn't been for Harry Potter,I would not have picked up another novel during high school. Sure I got teased with to begin with (my last name is Trotter, so I got Jean Potter).

Oh and the HP movies have nothing on the books!

I remember loving Power Rangers- they got banned, but I can understand why.

~Jennifer - posted on 07/18/2009

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Loureen said: THE ONLY MAN THAT SHOULD SPARKLE IS DAVID BOWIE ! haha


and I say: and upon occasion, Elton John.
Amen, Sistah!

~Jennifer - posted on 07/18/2009

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Twilight : He flies, He sparkles, He doesn't kill people.

He's not a vampire......he's a faerie.

~Jennifer - posted on 07/18/2009

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I have my own reasons for why I don't read HP or see the movies...but...
Why not ban "The LOR" series, Narnia, "Buffy", "Angel", "Charmed"....etc....all readily available on regular tv...

Why ban Harry Potter?

Charlie - posted on 07/18/2009

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HHHMMM well yes may as well ban ALL stories then , Ban HP , Ban sleeping beauty for fear your child may start self harming and sticking pins into themselves , or hansel and gretal , why not ban that we already have an obesity problem , Noddy is a homosexual , and Santa clause could give Eminem a run for his money with the amount of times he calls people ho's , and dont get me started on the EVILS of alice in wonderland , bunch of DRUG FIENDS!!!! LOL!!!

A world with no imagination , fantasy , and freedom to think with a creative mind is a life with no joy + wonder , what a sad deprived life that would be for a child .

I am a twilight JUNKIE !!! i read all four books in four days when i was pregnant !
mind you i hated the movie , it did no justice to the books .
* ducks for cover from angry movie fans* lol

Sara - posted on 07/18/2009

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I hope she finishes Midnight Sun...while I understand she was upset, the fans shouldn't be punished. Just write the dame book already!!! I need more Edward!!!! :)

Dawn - posted on 07/18/2009

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Sharon, I had heard about it and have read what was posted on her site. The word around town here (Forks) is that she is going to go and write the books. A lot of fans begged her too.



I know this is off the subject but anyone watched Warehouse 13 on SYFY channle yet? I'm hooked

Mary - posted on 07/18/2009

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Posted by Sharon Cohen-Fonzo (yesterday, 7:46 pm)

I really have to admit that while I do watch True Blood and I enjoy the show, they are nothing like the books! So skewed! HBO needed to really sex it up to gain viewers! Kinda embarrasing cause I don't have HBO, but my dad DVRs it for me. So sometimes I watch these scens with my dad and it weirds me out!





Agreed...LOVED the books!! Funnily enough, I watched the 1st few episodes of True Blood, and just couldn't get into it last year.

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Quoting Dawn: PS can't wait to read the Edward side of the Twilight story.



Dawn, if you go to Stephanie Meyer's official home page, and search the phrase 'Midnight Sun', you will find a partial manuscript for Edward's version. Midnight Sun was leaked last summer after the Breaking Dawn release. It was incomplete and not edited. Yet, the author admitted to trusting someone who she beleived whould not betray her, and the partial manuscipt ended up on the Internet. Therefore, she caved and instead of a legal lawsuit, she published her incomplete work. It's terribly sad that she claims she will no longer complete Midnight Sun, and will leave the work unfinished. She says her heart is not in it.

Anastasia - posted on 07/18/2009

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I'm so scared that if i read down the page that there might be Harry Potter movie spoilers =(

oh well...I'll just have to drag my reluctant ass to the theatre and watch it...*oh woe!!*

Dawn - posted on 07/18/2009

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LOL, Have you ever heard of the song from Monty Python. Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.? Very funny

Esther - posted on 07/18/2009

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Dawn - re. the sexual undertones in MASH etc. My son (18 months) right now is dancing to the music of Hair (the musical). "Masturbation - can be fun ..." - hahaha. I guess he'll be scarred for life.

Dawn - posted on 07/18/2009

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I hear ya Mary! I can't remember the name of the movie but it came out a not too long ago. Kind of a moder day Moses film. Had Morgan Freeman in it as God I think and it was rated PG because of the God referance. When I found out about that I started to look into why it got that rating. My two older kids 5 and 3 are going to go see Transformers next sunday with their grandparents. I've talked to several friends and the parts that I was a bit concern with (that I found about from looking up why it got that rating) was not all that bad and that the kids won't even get it. Shoot has anyone watched any of the old MASH and Dukes of Hazard? There is a lot of sexual under tones it in that I as a kid never got. So I think as a parent you have to do some investigation and ask others who you trust that have seen it what their opion is and go from there.

Happy Sat everyone!

ME - posted on 07/18/2009

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My dad was a grade school principal when these books started coming out...some of his parents were letting their kids read them, and some were upset about them. So...my dad started reading them all...he loved them, and so do I. I love that they got little kids reading, and I hope that some of them keep reading for the rest of their lives...and I completely agree with Dawn...there should be no difference between something like lion, witch, and wardrobe and HP...but some people are like immoveable objects...they refuse to hear truth (from anyone but their minister)!!!

Emily - posted on 07/18/2009

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I agree that the HP series (among others with similar characteristics) has opened reading up to a group of children who would otherwise stop reading! I do also think that children are exposed to the series at too young of an age. They are very challening books to read along with having parts that can be scary. I agree with the movie rating of 12 and think the book should be as well. There are so many wonderful features in those books that would go unnoticed by a young reader who is not yet ready for many of the demands the book places on them.



I abosolute LOVED the entire series! When I reached the end I cried and cried (don't worry I'm not giving anything away!)! I did because I was sad that I was done...I felt like it was the end of a relationship. I was so torn cause I wanted to find out what was going to happen in the end but I also didn't want to be done reading. I love when that happens when I read. A true sign of great literature to me!

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In the UK, HP falls into the 12a catergory... in other words no one under the age of 12 can view the film without an adult present. Transformers, Spiderman etc all normally fall into this catergory as it's considered fantasy action (violence). It's certainly the descision of the parents to decide if their child will be able to grasp the concept of fantasy not reality.
I won't be taking my 6 year old to watch HP at the cinema because it's too long a movie and he won't keep his bum in the chair! He can differentiate between fantasy and reality. We have all the HP DVDs and he's yet to start waving a twig at me trying to cast spells.
I'm not sure how a person can make a distinction between HP and Star Wars on a religious basis .... Stars Wars has strong religious influences of Taoism!

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I can see what the OP is saying. There are several good reasons to consider before letting your kids watch the movie. The big one is the age restriction. I thought some of the HP movies have an age of 12 to be able to see them at the cinema. The others have a reccomended age of 12. The children mentioned in the OP range from 7-13 so some are under 12.



Harry Potter can be compared to other less contraversial movies. If the boys act out things they see then I can understand why some parents might not like any of those movies. Parents make choices based on what they think is best for their kids, not anyone elses.



It annoys me when there is a lot of hype about all this stuff in the media. It makes kids think they are missing out on something when all their friends are doing it. In reality they are not missing much at all.

Dawn - posted on 07/17/2009

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I'm an ex-wiccan now born-again christian and I fine it stuid how some folks get all bent from HP. Its a good book that gets kids reading again. There is nothing bad in it. The Lion the witch and the wardrob and it being all ok and stuff is just because the writer was a christian so its ok to them. Crazy. If you think about it some kids might freak out when the lion dies. And here in Forks there is a few folks who want to get rid of all the Twilight stuff cause of the vampire part. They have never read the books and our economy can really use it since the timber industry is dying out here. PS can't wait to read the Edward side of the Twilight story.

Chantel - posted on 07/17/2009

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So I'm not a Harry Potter fan but have heard some parents who don't let there kids read/watch them. Actually my moms church has banned them as well as several others including the Narnia series. I loved the Narnia books when I was young and still do. I loved Twilight too! Actually I am a HUGE reader and read the Twilight series in 3 days during nap time and after she was in bed. I'm a very fast reader. Its my one and only gift. Too bad I couldn't get a job just reading books!! lol. Anyways, I think its great for kids to have imagination and don't see anything wrong with any of those books. Kids can be taught what's real and what's fantasy.

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I really have to admit that while I do watch True Blood and I enjoy the show, they are nothing like the books! So skewed! HBO needed to really sex it up to gain viewers! Kinda embarrasing cause I don't have HBO, but my dad DVRs it for me. So sometimes I watch these scens with my dad and it weirds me out!

JL - posted on 07/17/2009

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I am reading the Sookie Stackhouse books right now which is what the series True Blood is based on and I really like the books as well as the television series. I have not made an attempt yet to read the Twilight books. I am a huge Lord of the Rings Fan. As a child I was obsessed with reading anything written by Stephen King which my parents thought was weird since the stories can be scary but I love scary books and movies. I remember reading with my mom the The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe growing up... it was also a favorite of my husbands when he was growing up so when the movie came out we rushed to see it and I have let my children watch the movies. My daughter loved the Golden Compass..she begged us to buy the DVD for her and she has watched it over 10 times and she has yet to start practicing magic....LOL!

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OK, from 2001-2006 I taught 7th & 8th grade Reading. Let me tell you that Harry Potter brought back 'the cool' in middle school kids, especially boys to actually picking up a book and reading it! Hundreds of kids passed through my classroom, and it was a field day practically when a new HP book came out. Finally, Scholastic agreed to release the books over the summer. A mid-week school day book release would yield thousands of kids who got the book at midnight. Stayed up all night long to read. Slept for a few hours during the day, skipped school, then read more of the book. When the Twilight boom came out, same thing! Thankfully, last summer's Breaking Dawn was released in the summer. I love reading and currently so in love with what my husband calls "vampire smut". I have read the Twilight series, the House of Night series, The Vampire Diaries, the 9 'Sookie Stackhouse/Southern Vampire Mystery' True Blood books, Anne Rice novels, and currently on the Black Dagger Brotherhood series. When I am needing a break from vampires, I have read all 19 of Janet Evanovich's 'Stephanie Plum' books. Love them!! Can you guys view my Visual Bookshelf? Feel free to add me as a friend so we can all compare books! I love reading, can't ya tell?!

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Quoting Esther:



Quoting Sara:

I re-reading the last one right now Esther. You have to read it...it's sooooo gooood. How can you own it and not have read it?






I know - it's embarassing. I have to finish another Twilight book first (don't worry, my cheeks are flushed with shame as I write this) and then I'll get on Harry Potter.





haha dont worry I am the same. I think we all secretly enjoy twilight and potter

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Quoting sean:

in our school system they are banned. which I think is just petty. I did my praticum with the boys and girls club after school program at a local elementry school and they allowed the kids to watch a dvd of indiana jones and all the gore that comes along with it but they would not allow harry potter. they were letting 5 year olds watch indie! I plan to see the new film and when my oldest girl is a bit older she will watch them as well


Can't believe Harry Potter is banned! It's no worse than some other fairy stories! :)

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in our school system they are banned. which I think is just petty. I did my praticum with the boys and girls club after school program at a local elementry school and they allowed the kids to watch a dvd of indiana jones and all the gore that comes along with it but they would not allow harry potter. they were letting 5 year olds watch indie! I plan to see the new film and when my oldest girl is a bit older she will watch them as well

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I've read the Harry Potter books up to Order of the Phoenix. I'm halfway through that one and have been in the same spot for over a year now...just can't seem to get into it right now. But I can't wait for Jacob to be able to read them! He'll also be exposed to Lord of the Rings (the books). The LOTR movies will have to wait until he's older....maybe 10, because they are quite violent and bloody for a child. But I think what's important is that when children read books, they are using their imaginations and that leads to creativity. I think it also teaches them to think outside of the box. I certainly don't want Jacob to be a "sheep" and only read what is "acceptable". If he asked me to read Stephen King I'd probably let him if he was older....I'd rather have him interested in reading than in playing with toy guns (which we don't have). At least if he's reading, whatever he's reading, he's using his mind and how can that be wrong? I think most of the people who get on the "book ban" bit PROBABLY haven't even read the books they are against. I say, read the bible...what's more violent than that? Harry Potter is gravy compared to the crucifixion story.

Esther - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Sara:

I totally feel you there, Esther. I'm sort of ashamed to admit how wrapped up I got in the Twilight series. You're right, they're not particularly well written, but they make me feel 13 again...oh Edward!



LMAO - I know right?! I think that's exactly the appeal. Part of me wants to wrap up the series quickly though so I can get back to more adult literature. Like Harry Potter - hahaha.

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I know they're my guilty pleasure! (along with Sweet Valley High occasionally! shhhh!) :)

Sara - posted on 07/17/2009

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I totally feel you there, Esther. I'm sort of ashamed to admit how wrapped up I got in the Twilight series. You're right, they're not particularly well written, but they make me feel 13 again...oh Edward!

Esther - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Sarah:

Now Twilight i DO like!! Read them all! :)



I started reading them because there seemed to be so much hype around it and (being as out of it as I am since I had my son) I thought these were the books that the series "True Blood" were based on (and there seemed to be a lot of hype around True Blood too). I later found out that these are two separate series but I had already bought the first Twilight book. I roll my eyes frequently at it and I don't think it's particularly well written, and yet, I can't put it down! I just started the third book.

Esther - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Sara:

I re-reading the last one right now Esther. You have to read it...it's sooooo gooood. How can you own it and not have read it?



I know - it's embarassing. I have to finish another Twilight book first (don't worry, my cheeks are flushed with shame as I write this) and then I'll get on Harry Potter.

Sarah - posted on 07/17/2009

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I'm not a Harry Potter fan. The first film was ok......never read the books either.
However, i can't imagine it doing anyone any harm!!
I mean there's magic used in LOADS of kids books/films.
It's not like they're showing them satan worship or anything......(or do they? lol!)
It just seems a little extreme to me......i think it's nice to have a little 'magic' in life! :)

(i'm really not into fantasy books/films myself tho....more my hubby's territory!)

Sara - posted on 07/17/2009

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I re-reading the last one right now Esther. You have to read it...it's sooooo gooood. How can you own it and not have read it?

Esther - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Sara:

Here, all you HP fans...try this out...I can never get more than about 25.



http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/ch...


But I'm not assuming responsibility if you start worshipping satan.



Wow. I suck! I better start re-reading my books (at the risk of going straight to hell). BTW - I still haven't read the last one so don't give anything away on this thread please! I've had it since the day it came out but it's so thick that I can't carry it on the train with me and who has time to read at home with a litlte boy climbing all over you. I wish they would publish it on the Kindle.

Esther - posted on 07/17/2009

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Quoting Sara:

LOL Esther...good use of Harry Potter-isms! How about a little Felix Felicis?



I could definitely use some of that! Although maybe I should save my vial for Monday. I can probably make it through the weekend without a shot.

Sara - posted on 07/17/2009

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Actually, one of the women had a real problem with "The Golden Compass" when it came out...I just remembered that.



What's wrong with letting your child use their imagination anyway. HP isn't real...it's fantasy world. It has great themes about good vs evil as well, and sends good messages to kids about love and responsibility. I say any books that can instill a love of reading in a child is a good thing.

Mary - posted on 07/17/2009

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Oh, I'll just chalk this up as yet another way in which I'll be a bad mommy...Since I LOVED all the Harry Potter books, I have to say that I look forward to the day when my daughter can read them as well!! Not to mention Charlie Bones, Lemony Snicket, and Artemis Fowl, just to name a few. My parents instilled a love of reading, as well as fantasy & imagination, so I guess I could really blame it all on them, lol! (am planning on going to see HP with the parents while the hubby watches the girl!)



Am wondering if these same people are ok with The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe as well...awful lot of magic and violence as well, but perhaps the Christian undertones (which escaped me as a child) cancel all that BAD magical stuff out??

Sara - posted on 07/17/2009

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LOL Esther...good use of Harry Potter-isms! How about a little Felix Felicis?

Esther - posted on 07/17/2009

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I guess I'll start worrying when my son tries to put the cruciatus curse on me when he hits his teens. Sometimes I wonder if he's already put the imperius curse on me.


Seriously - this is crazy to me. I assume all the age-old fairy tales like snow white etc. are off limits too then. Are their kids really that dense that they can't figure out that lifting a "wand" probably isn't going to get your room cleaned? Besides, one of the many reasons I like Harry Potter so much is that even with the "witch craft" there are still all these rules that they need to follow. They can't get out of homework for example by casting some spell. They can't just do whatever they want. There are laws, responsibilities and plenty of moral issues. I really find it quite ridiculous to forbid your kids from reading these books or watching the movies. If that's the worst my son will ever be exposed to .... sign me up!!

JL - posted on 07/17/2009

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Well I do live in the state where that lady tried to have a bill passed to ban Harry Potter so I have heard this one too many times! I babysat a little girl once whose mother would not let her watch Aladdin because "magic is the devils work." I was like its just Disney. I don't get it because it has been shown that exposure to more violent movies is far worse to a kids mental state and what happened to the idea of being a parent and teaching what is fanatasy and what is real. I find it strange that it is ok for them to watch Star Wars since it has some very dark undertones that involve murder and having mental powers. WTF! BUT WHATEVER..that is their right to have that opinon no matter how absurd I think it is.

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LOL...funny!



I think you should know what you're "outlawing" before you outlaw it, you know? How can they just take someone's word for it about something like this? I just find it hard to repect their views for that reason, but I'm trying...I really am. I personally LOVE the Harry Potter books and will encourage my child to read them.

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