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Stacey - posted on 07/31/2011
the tittle to the story should of been different, when u read all of it including court docs and comments on that page you get more of the real story. its more about classes and points. GPA. here is one comment that i copied from the page that pretty much explains some of this story>>>
It drives me crazy that the news only reports part of the story. I feel the school made the right decision. The white girl was ranked #1 in class with the highest gpa going into her senior year, Kymberly was #3. The white girl made all A's and dropped from 1st to second. How is that possible? Easy, AP courses are worth 5 points regular classes are worth 4 points. The white girl took more classes then Kymberly, so all those 4's brought down the 5's she got from AP courses which brought her GPA down, even though she made all A's. I keep hearing how its unfair for the school to allow the white girl to be covalenvictorian, but the bigger question is how can you penalize her for challenging herself and taking more courses. Check out my example.
Kymberly 5 + 4 +4 +4 = 17/4 = 4.25 gpa
White Girl 5 +4 +4 +4 +4 +4 = 25/6 or 4.166
This is how Kymberly passes her.
So the real question is, if you were ranked #1 and took maximum classes made all A's and was passed by someone who took a lesser class load would you be ok with it?
The school has it written in their hand book that students will not be penalized for taking extra classes. If this is the case, wasn't the white girl the one who was penalized
Again hats off to the school for making the hard Right decision!
Anna - posted on 08/02/2011
This article is not only misleading, the headline is false. No one was denied being valedictorian. Reading around it looks like Kimberly had to share with another girl who also had all A's. Kimberly had the higher GPA, but this was only because she had fewer credits, so her 4.5 from an AP class had more weight then the other girl's 4.5. AP classes make things tricky. The school spoke hastily when then told Kimberly she was sole valedictorian. If they had checked the numbers first the mess would never have happened but in the end no one was denied anything. They solved the problem in the only way that was fair to each girl.
Being co-valedictorian doesn't mean you didn't work hard, it means that there was someone else who worked hard also.
So I read the headline and thought "that's terrible" then read the article. It is deceptive ... I don't like that for starters... makes me question what other facts they are skirting around.
"the school denied her the valedictorian status because she was black" ... then further on they say... "The next day, high school principal Darrell Thompson told the mother that he had decided to name a white student as "co-valedictorian""
So she wasn't denied her status, she just had to share it.
Maybe the other student had been involved in numerous extra curricular activities, lots of service to the community.
Maybe I just don't understand your whole validictorian thing and why it's an insult to share the honour... does it make your own accomplishments less significant if someone else has them in other areas?
Amber posted this one... http://news.yahoo.com/high-school-studen...
http://www.kait8.com/story/15176540/arka... ... this one states it was a school rule that extra coursework should not penalise students when calculating GPA and the other girl had more classes.
Karla - posted on 08/01/2011
The only way I could see that "more class credits" would make a difference would be if they operate with a weighted grading system, but I think a weighted grading system would be reflected in the GPA.
The way the story reads, there was only one day between when Kimberly was told she was valedictorian and when that changed to co-valedictorian; so I also wonder if it was a misunderstanding.
Our local school district decides the valedictorian after the 7th semester of High School - mid-way through their senior year. So the ranking stands and no additional grades are figured in for the last semester.
The GPA issue makes this situation very suspect though; I'm curious to see how this case is decided.
Jennifer - posted on 07/31/2011
Yes, this makes me furious.... just as furious as I get when my daughter gets discriminated against because she happened to be born gay. At least if you are black and discriminated against, you are not likely to have many people tell you that you are going to Hell because of who you are. There are actually laws in place to protect people who are being discriminated against because of their color but not their sexual orientation. There are even laws allowing people to discriminate against gay people!! The anti-marriage acts and decrees make it legal to discriminate against my daughter. It would almost be easier for her to be black.
Jane - posted on 07/29/2011
How often in the past have there been co-valedictorians? If it hasn't happened before, then it sounds like a thin excuse designed to cover up the true motives.
I apologize in advance if any of you work for school districts but in my experience I find that school administrators are not the sharpest blades in the knife drawer, and they very, very often let their personal prejudices and politics dictate their actions.
From that article you could say the school made a mistake in not realising the other student had gained more class credits. Maybe the "big mess" statement was in reference to that mistake. Maybe the other girls family were prestigious members of the community and likely to cause a big stink because of the credits issue.
I disagree with how they dealt with it but there is no proof it was race motivated other than assumptions.
Amber - posted on 07/29/2011
I was talking more to the point that she was officially named the sole valedictorian. If they hadn't named her as the only valedictorian, but decided to have two co-valedictorians to begin with...I don't think it would be an issue.
IF they had said from day 1, this girl has better grades but this second girl deserves it for "X" reason too, I would have no issue as long as the reason was legitimate.
Instead, they made a decision on who the honor would go to. They told that student the honor was theirs and theirs alone. They notified the paper of that honor. Then, when the racists in the community cried out, they took her sole honor away from her and made her share it.
Even if it was school policy to decided on multiple factors, the way they did it is inherently wrong.
Jane - posted on 07/28/2011
The killer to me was that the article said that there was a black valedictorian in 1989, so this is a renaissance of racism, not a holdover from the past.
I, too, was supposed to be valedictorian, but I was knocked out of the position by being a Yankee. The argument was that since most of my grades were from a non-Texan school system they weren't worth as many points. Texas As were worth 5 points each while Yankee As were worth 4 points. Thus, my recalculated GPA put me in fourth place, not first.
Lady Heather - posted on 07/28/2011
Yeah, I got that part. So then does she not get to be valedictorian or does she have to share? I'm just saying, if they don't have a policy in place they could just be all "this other girl did tons of community service or something so we wanted to honour that" and totally get out of the whole thing. But I don't know much about these things. At my school the other students voted so the most popular kid got to be valedictorian. For real.
Lacye - posted on 07/28/2011
This is really terrible and I'm not just talking about the poor girl's name. It's pretty fucking stupid to be telling somebody that they can't have that honor simply because of something as trivial as the color of her skin. Who cares if people are going to protest. The redneck racists need to sit down and shut up. She earned the right to be valedictorian and she shouldn't have to share it with somebody.
Amber - posted on 07/28/2011
@Heather~ The article said that the girl was actually awarded valedictorian, but then people started protesting. She can prove she was because the school sent out a press release to the paper with her name. Afterward, the school named her "co-valedictorian" and added a white girl with the same title for them to share. The white girl did not have as high of a GPA.
This just disgusts me.
JuLeah - posted on 07/28/2011
Happens all the time, this just made the news. I was at an edcuational meeting last night and we were discussing how public officals such as the police, doctors ... treat differently, or mistreat people based on color, gender, sexual orientation SES ... and one man, very educated man, said, "Yah but this was all a long time ago, right? I mean nothing like this ever would happen today?"
I just shook my head ... not new, not uncommon, better hidden maybe, but hate is still alive and well here in this great nation of ours
Lady Heather - posted on 07/28/2011
I have to admit - I had to take a minute to giggle at the rhyming name before reading the whole thing. Does the school have a policy of awarding he valedictorian honours to the highest GPA? I'm thinking that if they don't, this girl will have a hard time proving race is the reason. I'm not saying I doubt it could be. It's just a tough thing to prove. Now if that is their policy and she's got the highest then I don't know how the school can defend itself.
If it was because of her race then yes it does. EVERYBODY deserves to be accepted race should not be a factor, if she got the highest grades she deserved that recognition.
It also makes me sad that in 2011 we still have intolerance of race, sexuality, gender, age etc. People are people, it is who we are that is important not what we are physically!
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