How careful were you during pregnancy?

Krista - posted on 03/11/2011 ( 65 moms have responded )

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What did you restrict yourself from while you were pregnant? Did you still dye your hair? Use the same skin care products? Drink coffee? Drink a glass of wine here and there? Did you smoke? Did you eat only healthy foods?

Did you feel deprived or was it easy to change your lifestyle for the sake of your baby?

There seem to be a lot of different ideas out there about what's okay or not during pregnancy, so I'm interested to hear what you think!

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CJ - posted on 03/02/2012

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During my pregnancy with my daughter I didn't drink, made my boyfriend/family/friends who smoked move it outside and away from me, no caffiene in the beginning, near the end I'd have kid sized cherry pepsi's when I was really tired at work, but that was it. I wouldn't necessarilly say I ate only healthy foods, but I made sure to eat more fruits and veggies than I normally did. I would bring little baggies of fruit or veggies pieces to work with me to munch on when I got hungry. I used the same skin care products, but I did restrain myself from dying my hair while pregnant. I didn't eat soft cheeses, like feta, and I stayed away from any over the counter meds that your not supposed to take while pregnant. I also paid closer attention to how cooked my meat and eggs were.I didn't feel deprived at all, it was fairly easy for me, I didn't drink much before my pregnancy, I hate the smell of cigarette's and even one cup of coffee gives me stomach cramps so most of my caffiene came from soda or a very slowly drank energy drink when I really needed to energy boost. I did have fatigue issues when I stopped drinking even soda at work, but after a month or two, I didn't feel so tired without it. I had more issue with my food/drink aversions than anything I chose to cut out for the sake of my baby. All I could drink other than water without getting nausious for over half of my pregnancy was apple juice, I wasn't able to drink apple juice again happily for over a year after my daughter was born. Also, I worked a a pretzel store, making soft pretzels, but the smell of pretzels baking made me nausious for the first 5 months of my pregnancy...it was not fun.

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Jenn - posted on 03/15/2011

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I can't see your name - but why did you have carbs in moderation? Shouldn't carbs be the main source of energy? Fruits, veggies, whole grains - all good things. I'm always confused when people think carbs are bad. Would they rather live on fat and protein?

Julie - posted on 03/14/2011

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Avoided:
Large quantities of caffeine - consumed weak skinny latte
Alcohol apart from special occasions - then would have a glass with a meal.
Deli Meats
Cooked Chicken from unknown source ie unfamiliar restaurant/cafe
Poached (runny eggs)
In Moderation:
Carbs
Low joule drinks eg Diet soft drinks/cordials.
Soft cheeses (in Australia most cheeses are made from pasteurized milk)

Julie - posted on 03/14/2011

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Avoided:
Large quantities of caffeine - consumed weak skinny latte
Alcohol apart from special occasions - then would have a glass with a meal.
Deli Meats
Cooked Chicken from unknown source ie unfamiliar restaurant/cafe
Poached (runny eggs)
In Moderation:
Carbs
Low joule drinks eg Diet soft drinks/cordials.
Soft cheeses (in Australia most cheeses are made from pasteurized milk)

Jane - posted on 03/14/2011

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Didn't smoke, didn't drink a drop of alcohol, switched back to regular soda and only a few a week, only decaf coffee and tea, ate healthy MOST of the time and stopped dying my hair and let the gray shine through (I was prematurely gray and started dying my hair in my late 20's). I even stopped getting acrylic nails cuz I worried about the fumes. I didn't feel deprived at all. I was so thrilled about being pregnant that it didn't feel as though I was giving anything up.

Vegemite - posted on 03/14/2011

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For soft serve ice cream it's for the same reason as soft cheese (listeria) and the machines can sometimes not be completely cleaned out before refilling them. It is sometimes made from unpasteurized dairy (soft cheese as well) causing a risk for toxoplasmosis. Other toxoplasmosis risks are unwashed fruit and veg, raw or under cooked meat, used kitty litter, dog faeces, garden dirt, touching animals.

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No one actually accused me of not doing what was right it was just pointing out how small I was made me feel self conscious.

Mel - posted on 03/14/2011

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it isnt your fault. I threw up a fair bit first time around til about 25 weeks but second time only to 12 weeks. Every day at work I did get told by customers "theyd seen people small but not that small" but none of them accused me of not doig the right thing

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I felt really bad when people would comment on how thin I was and ask if the baby was ok...made me feel sick. I was walking the line and making sure that I did everything right and totally ignored my own wants, like for coffee and cokes, so it was very offensive and hurtful for someone to act like I wasn't eating right. With my 2nd I gained alot more, 35 lbs I think, but that was twins so it was still a less than average weight gain. I did my absolute best, though. It's just my body type I guesss. Plus I puked ALOT lol.

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i still coloured my hair and got my nails done but i was ordered bed rest from 20 weeks onwards so you don't get much more careful than that...i felt annoyed because from that point everyone treated me like i was disabled when really i was just pregnant

Mel - posted on 03/14/2011

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@ Stephanie I had the same problems with weight gain with my first pregnancy I kept getting accused of not eating (I eat ALOT) I only gained 3 kg (6lb 9oz) I would gain a kilo then lose it the whole time. My second pregnancy I gained 17kg

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My daughter was my 10th pregnancy after 9 miscarriages so yeah, I was super strict and did it all by the book. I didn't drink or smoke anyway so that wasn't a problem. The hard part for me was not having caffeine! That was so hard to not have all the tea, coffee and soda I wanted. I ate like a horse though bc I couldn't gain weight. I ate high fat foods and fried foods, all the good stuff lol. Even so, I only gained 20 lbs the entire pregnancy. I did have a can of soda occasionally, though. Usually it was caffeine free but now and then I'd splurge on a good one. ; ) I didn't dye my hair or eat lunch meats, hot dogs and the bad cheeses either. A week after I had her I weighed 10 lbs less than I did before I got pregnant. Best diet ever, haha! : )

Mel - posted on 03/14/2011

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lol wow I heard soft serve is on of the highest risk of listeria infection. I found it hard missing out on the chocolate sundaes lol

Bonnie - posted on 03/14/2011

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I would say I was pretty careful during my two pregnancies. I didn't eat tuna for the first 6 months of my pregnancies and after that limited myself to just a little bit. I didn't drink coffee. I didn't allow myself any caffeine for the first 6 months and then just a teeny bit after that. I avoided deli meats and only had the odd hotdog, if it was all beef. I didn't dye my hair at all. I'm not a smoker or much of a drinker, so alcohol was easy to avoid.

I found it fairly easy to adjust to the changes during my pregnancies. I knew I was doing it for my boys and it wasn't for too long. I knew I had to try my best to avoid anything bad from happening.

Rosie - posted on 03/14/2011

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just looked it up jenn, cause i'd never heard of it either. they say that because the machines are so hard to clean they might contain listeria. i had a banana split sometimes 3 times a week!

Jenn - posted on 03/14/2011

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Oh yeah, I started taking my prenatal vitamins instead of the normal daily one I used to take, and I don't eat soft cheese or deli meat anyway. Did I see someone say that they weren't supposed to have soft-serve ice cream? Why?

Jenn - posted on 03/14/2011

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I quit smoking immediately, didn't dye my hair (although I've heard it's actually safe to do so), didn't drink alcohol, quit using drugs (yeah yeah I was a bad girl back then), I can't say I thought twice about skin care products so yes I still used the same thing, I ate fairly healthy much like I always do but I did eat some junk. I did not feel deprived at all and had no issues making the changes that I made.

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Oh, and I missed my Brie!!! :(

I forgot this stuff too... I didn't dye my hair before getting pregnant (and I still don't), so no worries there. I did switch to all natural oat lotion, but it wasn't because I was pregnant, it was because it felt better and was more nourishing to my skin (I have very dry skin).

Andrea - posted on 03/14/2011

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I didnt smoke or drink, of course! I didnt dye my hair but I ate lunch meat the whole time! I drank a can of pop everyday. My son was 8 lbs and healthy!

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I was 2 months pregnant with my first at my wedding, but I still had a glas of chapange (just one and it was actually 3/4 chanpange and 1/4 sparkling cider - my usual combo since I'm not big on alcohol anyway - you would not believe the crap my 7 month-pregnant sister gave me over it!).

Other than that, I didn't smoke or drink before getting pregnant, so that wasn't a big deal. I cut out a lot of my sodium intake (no more cup-o-soups) and I ate more fresh fruits and veggies (although too much fruit - like a whole apple or more than about 5 or 6 grapes - made me sick to my stomach, and they still do to this day). I took prenatals and I also took Expecta, a fish oil suplement for pregnant women (I don't eat fish even when I'm not pregnant, so I felt it was a good idea).

I still had one cup of regular coffee every single day for both my pregnancies. Don't even try to take away my coffee... Grrr... My 3 year-old and my 2 year-old both love coffee - especially with "Lolly" (how my 2 year-old says chocolate) in it... lol

My major indulgence was that my hubby would buy me a large chocolate milkshake from our local drive-in restaraunt (REAL chocolate shakes made with ice cream and chocolate shavings - YUMMM!) every weekday. He would then put it in the freezer and it would be my after work treat that I would eat while making dinner :)

Jessica - posted on 03/14/2011

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I guess I've always felt they tend to go overboard with the "don'ts" during pregnancy. I was careful, but didn't give up much.

I quit smoking as soon as I found out. Cut down caffeine to 1 cup of coffee in the morning, sometimes a second caffeinated beverage later in the day but not always. My first pregnancy I didn't drink at all; with the second I had a couple small glasses of wine at times. I think the lunch meat thing is stupid lol so I had some when I wanted it; the soft cheese thing is dumb too- all the soft cheese at my grocery store is pasteurized so I ate it when I wanted it.

I paid more attention to nutrition and took a vitamin to help fill any nutritional gaps.

Mel - posted on 03/12/2011

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my first daughter: I drank before finding out I was pregnant, very heavily, and smoked a few cigarettes here and there, also lots of redbull after finding out , at about 7 weeks, I drank in moderation (half a cruiser every month or 2 and a weak baileys once), but no smoking, I had soft serve here and there and I had cold meat on my subway, but I took all my vitamins and was very careful in all other ways.
second daughter: found out at 4 weeks 1 days no alcohol consumption except a glass of baileys and milk 3 days before due date which was next to nothing could barely even taste it, the guys at the bar let my hubby pour it , and it was at my nannas birthday. No cold meats or any of the wrong foods. No smoking, think i did every single thing right. Still take my vitamins now while breast feeding. Iron level were alot lower with baby #1 and was blacking out on a daily basis at work til 25 weeks lucky they were understanding.
Bleached my hair first pregnancy second was told it was ok if I used dark colours so I dyed my hair once but dyed it black and red so it was not as harsh. I had to carry heavy things in first pregnnacy as well due to working on checkouts, not fully heavy but up to 10kg.

I felt deprived sometimes, but its worth it for your baby. I try not to judge others if they chain smoke or drink that is their choice. I did not drink coffee so far whiloe pregnant or breast feeding. What I miss the very most right now and for the last 16 months is redbull.

Lady Heather - posted on 03/12/2011

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I followed all the general rules with this one and the last. I don't colour my hair anymore. I was already off caffeine when this one started. That was harder the last time. I just reduced. The part where I lose it is diet. I simply can't eat "healthy" for the first half. I just have to eat whatever I can. I'm going on Diclectin now so hopefully that will make it possible to eat again. I literally vomit at the mere sight of most food. I always thought I would be one of those perfect nutrition people. HA.

Krista - posted on 03/12/2011

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I was moderately careful. I cut out alcohol, and had quit smoking years before, so that wasn't an issue. I cut out sushi, and put away my retinol cream. I did dye my hair, but switched to demi-permanent dye instead of permanent dye. I didn't cut out coffee altogether, but I did limit myself to just one cup a day.

I ate mostly healthy, but that was kind of forced upon me, due to being diagnoses with gestational diabetes.

Vegemite - posted on 03/12/2011

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I was very careful too. No soft cheeses, soft serve icecream, for the first time ever i ate caged eggs, no alcohol, no smoking, no hot baths, no cold meats or seafood, had probably 4 half strength coffees, no cold deli salads like potato or pasta salad, no offal, only had veg sushi, no therapies except some massage the lady used olive oil rather that therapy oils. I did stop using permanent hair die a switched to foils as they are off the scalp.

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VERY CAREFUL .

I lost my first baby at 15 weeks gestation and was very aware of what I put into my body , onto my body that could cause a termination like no soft white cheeses , no cold seafoods ( prawns , oysters ect ) 1 serve of Tuna a week , no alcohol , quit smoking , no coffee , no reflexology in the first three trimesters , stayed away from certain aromatherapy oils , no hot baths , no deli meat ......well you get the picture LOL.

But I did eat a lot of chocolate *EEEP*

Jocelyn - posted on 03/12/2011

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I quit smoking, and cut down drastically on my coffee intake. I had about 3 glasses of wine over the course of 2 pregnancies (only for special occasions). I continued to dye my hair every 6 weeks. I don't eat meat so I didn't have to change anything there.

Amber - posted on 03/12/2011

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hmm let's see....i'm pregnant for the third time, but my middle child was a loss at 15 weeks so i'll just figure in the other two. i have a son who is four & i am currently 14 weeks pregnant! :D with my first one i ate a lot of fast food but didn't gain too much weight, i was only 17 so i think that helped, good metabolism. didn't smoke with my first, quit smoking again when we started TTC this baby, about a year ago. never really smoked heavily anyways unless i was drinking which also isn't a big loss, as i don't drink much. i would eat lunch meat if i could, but it makes me really ill just thinking about it. i still eat veggie sushi, sans fish. i have cut out Brie cheese which sucks because it is my FAVE! boohoo. don't like hottubs, don't have crazy hot baths, don't eat fast food anymore so that's a plus. i'm having a hard time eating well because of intense nausea. it was getting better, but then i had to have a cerclage placed last week and the antibiotics they have me on make me feel like i have the flu :( i'm currently eating hot & sour soup, my current craving du jour. yummy!

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My first pregnancy I did everything as by the book as possible. I didn't have any alcohol, no hair dye, now mercury fish, no trampolines or hottubs, changed bath temp, no fastfood, did yoga, I quit smoking but it did take me longer than I wanted. This pregnancy urgh I feel like crap about it and should be shot, almost 7months and I'm still smoking, eat spicy food and sugary junk left right and center, I haven't done any real exercise if anything I'm less active than I was before, I drank 2 glasses of wine even though I'm a huge hypocrit because I'm against drinking while preggo period (friend of mine has FAS) I dyed my hair during the first trimester, still drink coffee/tea, and I'm constantly forgetting to take my prenatal vitamin. I hate myself for this because the way I see it I know better yet I still can't get my act together and this pregnancy has been going by so fast so I'm approaching the third trimester and am probably one of the worst pregnant women ever. I don't get why it was so easy with my first but this time around it seems like such a struggle at this point though I think the only thing I can chalk it up to is just flat out lazyness.

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I pretty much stayed away from all the stuff they tell you too...fish high in mercury, caffeine, artificial sweeteners, soft cheeses, deli meats. I hardly even took tylenol. I'm pregnant again and I have done the same this time around. I don't smoke, and I chose not to have any alcohol during my pregnancies. I just really feel/felt like I owe it to my child to give them the best start possible, which means not eating crap (for the most part -- once in a while you have to have a cheeseburger!), not ingesting chemicals/stimulants that can be avoided and taking care of myself and in effect, them.

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I didn't have to make very many lifestyle changes. I didn't smoke before pregnancy and only drank once in a blue moon before. I hate coffee and actually have never even tasted it in my life! I like soda, but don't love it, so it was easy to remove that from my diet. I wanted to dye my hair but waited until after the baby was born. Other things I restricted: deli meat, sushi, and ice cream in restaurants because the machines that aren't routinely cleaned often can harbor bacteria. Other than that, I ate pretty much whatever I wanted, including as much candy/sweets as I wanted. Next time around, I am going to be more careful on the sweets. I didn't have GD but every pregnancy is different. It's really important to me that I have another healthy pregnancy next time around. I want to have a home birth and I don't want anything to get in the way of that. I will probably be super strict with myself on the sugar and salt aspect of my diet next time around. In fact, the super strictness has already started, because we will be TTC in 2 months. Can't wait for not having a period for 9 months or longer!!! Is it May yet?????

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I changed how i eat almost from the time i found out that i was pregnant and I think i had a drink or two but very little in the glass i gave up smoking when i found out i was pragnant with our first daughter and have never looked back but with the whole hair dying thing i studied hairdressing before having our first daughter and there is nothing wrong with dying your hair as the dye only go on your hair and doesn't go into the skin so there is no stress on the baby the smell of the dye alot of people might not be able to handle but again there is nothing wrong with it

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I don't smoke or dye my hair so I didn't have to quit those, I did stop drinking alcohol during both of my pregnancies though.

As for diet, I have increased my fruit and veg intake and still eat runny egg yolk, peanuts, I eat cheese by the bucket load but I only really eat mozarella and cheddar anyway. I still eat sugary foods - but I am aware of what I eat and try to maintain a healthy balance of the foods I do eat. In the first trimester I couldn't even be near a coffee but now I enjoy a cup here and there (I'm 26 weeks).

I don't believe that vitamins do anything that a varied diet can do, so I chose not to take any pre-natel vitamins.

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The only thing i did was cut out alcohol. I dont smoke so there is no issue there. otherwise i did cut back on panadole so instead of as soon as i got a headache ito take some i would hold off and wait it out to see how bad it got.

Ez - posted on 03/12/2011

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I quit smoking and drinking. I cut out coffee but it turned into a major aversion anyway. I still drank a few Cokes a week. I wasn't overly strict with my diet (hence why I gained so much weight lol) but did avoid soft cheeses, runny eggs etc.

The one thing I was careful of was paint fumes. My house was painted when I was 26 weeks, and I moved out for the entire week.

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I stopped drinking alcohol. I dyed my hair and use the same skin care products. I still drink coffee. I drank a glass of wine at my friend's wedding and hen's party. I never smoked anyway. I didn't only eat healthy foods. I feel deprived of alcohol. It's easy to not drink because of the baby. I don't use bleach or Nurofen when I'm pregnant either but I'm not overly careful about deli meat, and other things we're supposed to avoid.

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From my normal life I restricted aleeve- my go-to painkiller, which can cause miscarriage. Diet and exercise remained the same. I don't use chemicals in my hair and at the time I didn't drink alcohol at all as a lifestyle choice.

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i had my last cigarette at 20 weeks, the day i found out i was expecting i cut back to a third of what i normally smoked and weaned from there.

On days i worked, I had one cappucino so basically every other day is what it worked out to for me. I went off work at 29 weeks so out went the semi regular caps, and they just became a treat here and there.

I ate pretty well for the most part, But i usually always had my wednesday Big Mac ( there would be hell to pay if i didnt get it, big time craving!) Third trimester bedtime snack had to be lucky charms, and there was that kraft dinner phase...

I helped renovate my basement ( drywall, mudding and taping, installing flooring, painting etc) But was careful to protect myself from inhaling dusts or fumes. We finished when i was about 8 months.

I didnt dye my hair before pregnancy, but after it i found a ridiculous amount of grey hairs ( im only flipping 26 for crying out loud) so i dyed it, wishing i hadnt started that though.

I never drank during my pregnancy, rarely do now, its just a bit of a pain in the ass with breastfeeding. I will usually say " oh ill have a a few after Logan's last nursing for the night" but then never really bother. I have tied one on a few times since delivery tho !

The only big change for me was smoking and going of work. ah and not being able to dip my toast in yolks :( since your supposed to make sure your eggs are thoroughly cooked. that was a bummer

Kate CP - posted on 03/11/2011

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Uhh...I already didn't smoke, dye my hair, or use teeth whiteners or things like that. I did continue to drink caffeine but limited myself to one cup of coffee a day. I quit drinking, too. I ate total crap at first then I found out I had GD and ate healthy for the remainder of my pregnancy.

I have to change my lifestyle so frequently anyway that changing it for the sake of the baby was nothing at all. I had to quit eating fatty foods and drinking almost completely a year ago when I found out I had pancreatitis. I had to quit smoking when I found out I was asthmatic. I had to quit school when I found out I had an immune disorder. I had to quit carbs when I found out I had gestational diabetes...yea. Lifestyle changes aren't a big thing to me any more. :/

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I don't smoke, drink (alcohol or caffiene), or dye my hair anyway, so really no need to cut anything out.... except sweet stuff which I didn't really cut down on. I did have lunch meat, but only a couple of times and only cooked.

While pregnant w/ the girls I was under doctor's orders to eat whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. I actually got praised for eating McDonald's in the waiting room a couple of times. lol

After I failed my one hour glucose test w/ my son and started monitoring my blood sugar I DID limit my sweets a lot, but only so I didn't screw up any of the tests. In the first half of that pregnancy the only way I could stomach eating all day was to eat a chocolate mint candy first thing in the morning.

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I stopped smoking pot when I started first thinking about getting pregnant with my first and have been breastfeeding or pregnant ever since so never took it back up. I've never smoked tobacco but when pregnant and out with my kids I make a habit of avoiding being too close to other people smoking. I completely stopped drinking coffee and alcohol when pregnant with my first except for the very rare half glass of red wine in my last month of pregnancy. I drank maybe one coffee a week or less in my second pregnancy and after the first trimester had the very VERY rare half glass of watered down wine (like maybe once or twice a month).

I cut down on sugar and salt with both pregnancies, changed from milk to dark, unsweetened chocolate. But other than that I didn't really change my diet. I still ate sushi, soft cheeses, cold cut meats, raw egg products, peanuts etc, but then I only ever eat these products occasionally and from good quality, reputable suppliers and have never had issues with allergies, listeria, or bacterial food poisoning when not pregnant.

I have never dyed my hair, my skin care products are all natural, aloe vera and vegetable oil based (avocado oil, vitamin e oil etc) so no problems there. The biggest issue I've had is with no tattoos while pregnant and breastfeeding, this is the longest I've gone without getting inked and have a few designs I want to get as soon as I can again.

I haven't felt deprived at all (except sleep deprived when pregnant with number two and number one was under 18 months old), maybe because the 'changes' I made weren't big or substantial but even so it would seem worth it to me to modify aspects of my lifestyle for the 9-10 months of gestation and following periods of breastfeeding to ensure my babies optimum health outcomes.

I guess I feel that the guidelines are great and represent an ideal when it comes to safety and risks in pregnancy, they should be actively promoted and expectant mothers well educated about them. But they are just that: guidelines. They do not take into account the realities of lifestyles or the differences in individuals. Different people metabolise different substances differently or react differently to different substances depending on many factors; their genetic makeup, certain predispositions, personal history, familial history etc etc. Individuals come from different backgrounds of culture, socio-economic status, education and understanding that will influence their decision making when pregnant and breastfeeding and it is important to remember that before 'judging' a mother for her antenatal choices. I wonder if many women from asian countries and cultures stop eating raw fish and eggs when pregnant? Or if many european women refrain from drinking wine and eating preserved meats or soft cheeses?

Becky - posted on 03/11/2011

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Dh hates cleaning the bathroom. So I just switched to green cleaners instead of Lysol. I liked the smell much better too!

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Oh, I stopped cleaning the cat box, which I loved not having to do. I didn't have to clean the bathroom anymore either as DH would do it. All other areas of our home has always been open and well ventilated.

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I had no problems changing my lifestyle for my baby. Especially since I didn't have to change it that much. I gave up caffeine, and ate more protein but other than that I didn't change much. I don't dye my hair, rarely wear makeup to begin with, medicine isn't a problem either since I rare if ever take any, and I don't drink alcohol.

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I don't have very unhealthy habits to begin with, so there's not many changes I had to make during pregnancy. I'll stop at one cup of coffee. I don't take my pre-natals, because they constipate me. I eat large amounts of ice cream. And that's about it.

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Oh and I had never heard of not eating deli meats or cheese before joining COMs.

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I did not smoke during my first pregnancy. With my second, I cut way down but didn't quit completely. I didn't have a drop of alcohol with either pregnancy. I took my prenatals religiously but didn't touch tylenol or any other pills. I had caffeine, Coke was a huge craving throughout both pregnancies. I consumed large amounts of baked spaghetti with my first and large amounts of chicken enchiladas with my second. I didn't color my hair during my first 2 trimesters but did go get my hair fixed up right before I delivered both.

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