How "crunchy" are you?

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/06/2010 ( 82 moms have responded )

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I am all for Organic foods, clothing, cleaners etc. But how much of it do you think is truly "organic"? I have come across some interesting information lately and want to see what you all think...is organic a conspiracy? I feed my baby all organic foods, and she has not started milk yet...but I will offer Organic. My son I just give him the fruits and veggies that have a thin skin and are more likely to contain pesticides such as grapes, apples, cucumbers, tomatoes etc. What is your stance...

Organic or it doesn't matter?

http://www.wisebread.com/horizon-organic...

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Sara - posted on 12/06/2010

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I've read a lot of stuff that says that organic is a bunch of hooey. I tend to agree...now, I can support buying local produce and meat, but it doesn't have to be organic for me.

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organic milk, cheese and as much fruti and veg as possible. esp those on the dirty dozen list. don't worry about avocado, sweet potatato and a few others. meats don't do organic but do hormone free from a reputable butcher that will deliver. true on the expensive to get the gov't to organic certify hence the huge price increase in organic meats.

is it the right thing to do? who really knows. I figure we just do the best we can and hope.

as for cleaning products vinegar and few other things. I figure if a product doesn't list their ingredients on the label than they are filled with crap. used to actually make my own laundry detergent (pre-babies) which was so easy and cheap but husband didn't like it.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/07/2010

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That is awesome to know about the Canada food...wish America was less worried about making the almighty dollar, and more worried about the health of the citizens.

Lindsay - posted on 12/07/2010

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Milk doesn't have to be organic to be "hormone free". I'll still continue to purchase my Kroger brand milk that is also hormone free but not "organic". :)

Charlie - posted on 12/07/2010

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Shauna it tastes like creamy liquid porridge (oats ) its slightly naturally sweet and doesn't have that strong nutty soy taste .

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Isobel - posted on 12/12/2010

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well YAY! I'm switching back to cheap milk :D

you really should try an organic, free range chicken though...it's truly an entirely different animal mmmmm

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There are typically hundreds of different varieties of every fruit. Did you know that we have 5 different varieties of blueberries on our farm alone. Different climates and different soil determines which varieties grown best.

Jenn - posted on 12/12/2010

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@Carol - but keep in mind that you might be comparing 2 entirely different varieties of the same fruit/veggie. In the case of tomatoes - there are thousands of different types and would all have different textures, sizes, shapes, colours, and flavours.

Stifler's - posted on 12/11/2010

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i grew corn, carrots and tomatoes once. they were shit so i stopped with the veggie garden thing.

Sandra - posted on 12/11/2010

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In my area, organic isn't much more expensive either. In fact, buying from the Farmer's Market is usually a little bit cheaper than conventionally grown produce from the grocery store.



And if you're looking for places that have gone organic, a farmer's market or want to go directly to the source (farm or orchard) here's a great website to look for places (in the US)

http://www.localharvest.org/

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I'm not sure if its just my area or all of canada, but organic food doesn't really change the price of the food. Its usually the same price, certian items are a little bit more expensive, but not drastic. a tub of spinach for instance the regular is 4.29 while organic is 4.99

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My MIL gave me carrots from her garden a couple weeks back and OMFG! they were SOOO much better than the store bought ones.

Johnny - posted on 12/11/2010

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Perhaps you've forgotten what it really tastes like. For example, the tomatos in the grocery store and the ones I grow don't even taste like the same fruit. In a blind taste test, you might not even match them up as the same product. Some varieties of potatos and carrots are like that too. Others, the flavor is just sweeter or more out front. But I can definitely tell the difference between home grown, locally grown, and imported.

Sort of like the difference between fresh squeezed orange juice and the stuff that had it's oxygen removed and has been sitting in a vat for a year only to be re-essenced with oils before shipping.

Jayce - posted on 12/11/2010

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I don't buy into the whole 'organic' thing. I like to shop at farmer's markets in the summer and other than that I buy what I can afford.



Don't know how true this is, I never checked into it but I once had a farmer tell that all he had to do to get the 'free-range' label on hid chickens/eggs was to give them the option of leaving the barn. They may never actually do it but as long as they could if they wanted to then he could call them free-range.



As for taste, don't see a difference. Growing up my grandparents had some animals (mostly pigs and chickens) and had their own gardens. I ate freshly butchered meats and freshly picked vegs all through childhood and I don't see any difference beween that and what I pick up at the grocery store.

Cherese - posted on 12/11/2010

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Dana, Morris is my married name and unless Jenn is a very opinionated woman who loves shopping and casinos, I dont think she is one of my in laws. LOL!!

Jenn - posted on 12/11/2010

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Nope. I don't really have many relatives that are Morris' - my sister is a Rustan, my Mum is a Moyer (just got remarried last Saturday), my Aunt is a Turner - other than the men like my Dad, Uncle, and Grandpa - I only have 2 cousins left who are Morris' - Kayla and Jill.

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No organic here... unless it's what is offered... like some of the Costco frozen/fresh produce, etc....

Desiree - posted on 12/09/2010

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Firstly can afford organic here in South Africa it tend to be very expensive if it is labeled organic, but then I also don't buy foods that are not in season in South Africa, imported foods stuff cost a lot of money and also require additional what evers to keep it fresh for longer.

Also here we have very strict rules about what goes into our food stuffs and has to be labeled correctly. You can't say something is 100% beef and it has 10% chicken in it the Health Department will come down on you like a ton of bricks. Even our live stock are checked on a regular basis and you are not allowed to feed the animals growth hormones and rubbish like that.

Cherese - posted on 12/09/2010

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I buy organic when I can and I have an organic garden (my girls do alot of the tending) that has to be turned over in prep for next season. I have to say it is a nice way to go, especially when they want almost $2 per bell pepper!! Nothing like making dinner and walk in your backyard and pick fresh organic herbs, tomatoes and peppers.

My girls are teenagers and I am disabled so I work from home but if you are able to do so I really recommend it. It isnt as hard as it would seem once you get it all planted, water everyday and fertilize every two weeks or so. You dont even have to turn over a plot of land, you buy a raised garden kit and fill it in.

Jenn - posted on 12/09/2010

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Yes Becky it is hormone-free - Canada has always had tougher rules and regulation when it comes to not only food but drugs - that's why we don't have as many recalls because we test the shit out of things before just passing them on to the public to try. And ALL milk is free from antibiotics. A cow might be given an antibiotic if they have an infection (to NOT give it to them is just cruel - why make them suffer?) - but their milk may NOT be used until it is free from the antibiotics. I'm pretty sure it's like that in Canada AND the US.

Anyway, no I do not intentionally buy organic. I have bought some organic stuff if I had to - like if they are all out of regular bananas I'll get the organic ones. I do try to buy as much local stuff as I can, or at least Canadian grown/made products. Like even Lay's potato chips are made with Ontario grown potatoes! LOL!!

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good question. I get my cleaners and most of my products from Melaleuca. They work great and are a great price, have safer ingredients. the cleaners truly are 100% natural. There hasn't been an accidental poisoning in 25 years since they started. I try to get organic when possible, it's much healthier for you. And no, I don't think organic is a conspiracy, and if it is...at least the organic products are better than the ones full of chemicals and growth hormones.

Becky - posted on 12/07/2010

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Milk and cheese from Canadian dairies are already hormone-free, and I think antibiotic-free as well. (could be wrong on that second one.) So, as long as I buy Canadian milk, I'm buying hormone-free.

Lindsay - posted on 12/07/2010

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Deans milk, Kroger, Walmart and other chains changed their store brand milks to hormone free. Krogers was changed in 2008. I'm not sure when the other were.

Dana - posted on 12/07/2010

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Hm, I've never seen hormone free milk without it being organic, good to know.

September - posted on 12/07/2010

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We tend to buy organic most times however not always. We always buy organic milk, eggs, fruits, veggies and meats. We stay clear of processed foods and foods high in sugar in most cases however we do not deprive ourselves either. We've found our healthy balance. I love farmers markets! :)

Lady Heather - posted on 12/07/2010

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For me it depends. I like to support my local organic farm because they are local. But I'll take non-organic carrots from down the road over organic ones from Mexico any day. First off, many of the local places don't use pesticides but they don't get certified organic because there are so many hoops to jump through. A friend of mine has an all-natural grass-fed beef farm but he is not certified. I would eat his meat over the organic at the grocery store because I can actually visit the farm. Heck, I can pick out the cow if I want to. I think Canada is a little harder on the hormone thing though so we don't have to worry about that in our milk and cheese. I think probably I would drink organic milk if I was in the US.

I guess I prefer to buy local than organic, but sometimes they mix.

Clothing and stuff...it's just too damn expensive most of the time so I don't bother with that. Cleaners I make myself at home out of natural products. I'm allergic to most cleaners so it just makes sense. Also cheaper.

Dana - posted on 12/07/2010

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I use that same brand for my son, Shauna. We all know that adding hormones to our food isn't good, I know I'd rather my son drank milk without hormones. I'm not sure why anyone else wouldn't want that.

Shauna - posted on 12/07/2010

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WOW!!!!!! maybe it depends on the brand i dont know but i LOVE IT!!!!!------------I buy the HORIZON brand with omega 3 added

Lindsay - posted on 12/07/2010

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I bought organic milk once and it ended up in the trash. The kids couldn't stand the taste and then I tried and thought it was pretty horrible as well.

Shauna - posted on 12/07/2010

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@Louren ----- does oat milk taste like soy milk or more like "normal milk" ???? I cant stand soy milk but want to try oat milk!!! i've never heard of it!

Shauna - posted on 12/07/2010

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If you have never tried organic milk, i suggest it ... TASTES SO YUMMY!!! ... the differance is amazing!

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I don't buy into the organic being better theory. I do agree that it's always best to buy local produce but I don't think the local stuff is any healthier than what can be bought in a store. Plus, organic is so much more expensive that we just can't afford to go that route, even if I wanted to. I buy what's on sale, all fresh fruits and veggies and a wide variety of meats, breads, pastas and dairy. I do try to stay away from over-processed things. Like, I buy a brick of real cheese instead of Velveeta. I buy whole grain breads instead of white. I buy unbleached flour instead of the bleached stuff. But I don't consider that organic.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 12/07/2010

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I can deffinately tell the difference between organic/non-organic fruits and veggies. As far as meat goes, I try to get hormone free/free range etc..but I don't eat meat. That is for my son and hubby. I will buy organic milk for my daughter when she is ready for it...I know there is controversy over whether it is "truly" organic (even with the USDA label) but I would rather be safe than sorry. I see way to many young girls hitting puberty sooooo damn young, with huge boobs at 11...I cannot help but believe it has to do with the foods we are providing for them.

Lindsay - posted on 12/06/2010

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I buy my meats organic but beyond that, I don't bother. All of our produce is bought locally when it's in season but it's not necessarily organic.

Becky - posted on 12/06/2010

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I did not know they could make milk out of oats! I've heard of soy milk, rice milk and almond milk, but never oat milk! Interesting.

Charlie - posted on 12/06/2010

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I drink oat milk and find the organic oat milk just isn't as nice .

Johnny - posted on 12/06/2010

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For the cost of organic milk and cheese, each of those cows should have their own personal masseuse and be outfitted with Meleda gentle pumps. Yikes!!! Our service delivers both regular & organic, and it is double the price. At Safeway, I notice theirs is almost triple. I guess I'll have to take those pesticides and suffer...

Becky - posted on 12/06/2010

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For the most part, we don't do organic. I do usually buy organic carrots though, for some reason! For the first year, I bought organic baby food or made my own out of organic produce. Mostly bought, because using organics, the jarred was actually cheaper than making my own. I definitely don't do organic milk, it costs twice as much as the regular stuff! And we go through a lot of milk!
Now that we've moved and have a huge yard, we plan to put in a big garden in the spring, so we'll have a fair bit of home-grown, organic produce at least.

Johnny - posted on 12/06/2010

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We recently started using an organic delivery service, not so much because it was organic, but because they focus on locally grown produce and locally prepared foods. I simply do not have the time to run around to all the places that I would have to go to pick up the local stuff, many of them are quite far from my neighborhood. Now, myself and 5 of our neighbors are getting it delivered. I absolutely love it. The produce is fantastic in quality, the eggs are so flavorful, and I've got more time to enjoy life instead of driving. They even carry bread from my favorite bakery (not organic) that is way too far for me to usually pick up. Instead of all 5 of us driving to the store every few days, a one truck comes to us once a week. We get our meat in a similar way, from an organic ranch about 300 miles away. They also kill the animals in a humane way certified by the SPCA. We share a pack with my parents, it comes butchered and vacuum-packed for the freezer. I do buy chicken at the butcher still about once a week. I was willing to sacrifice some price savings for the convenience, but shockingly, after the first 2 months, I've found I am saving about $40 a week!!!! I was totally thrilled. There's no delivery fee, it comes in a tupperware bin that we return the following week, and you can even throw in your excess plastic bags from other stores (which you can not recycle in our civic system) and they'll recycle them for you.

So I didn't used to buy organic, because of costs. But now I am, it's all certified, and checked out by the company, and I'm saving money. That's all good, but only having to go into a grocery store once every 2 or 3 weeks for condiments or cheese or something is the absolute best. Not to mention how great the produce tastes. Tonight I baked some locally grown red potatoes which actually tasted like the one's my MIL grows. Just like the earth. In the summer, when my garden is growing, I'll cut down on my order. But now, in the winter, I'm learning to do without as many imported fruits & veggies.

Charlie - posted on 12/06/2010

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OMG the difference in organic chicken is HUGE the taste , the flavor , the size , the colour seeing and tasting it so different freaks me out when I see "average" chickens .

Kate CP - posted on 12/06/2010

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I think organic fruits and veggies taste better but I'm not a fiend about it.

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I buy what is on sale, and it's never anything organic. I don't buy into the organic stuff. I do shop at our local produce, and they carry some locally grown items, and some out of country items. Again, whatever is on sale.

Isobel - posted on 12/06/2010

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I don't care that much about veggies...I will buy from the farmer's market if I can but if not...meh.

Isobel - posted on 12/06/2010

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I only can tell the difference with meat (especially chicken), I buy organic, free-run eggs, and organic free-run chicken and organic milk, and beef because my daughter's starting to hit puberty a little early and if I can keep it at bay by keeping the hormones out of her I will. The chicken part is from watching that special that Jamie Oliver did about the state of chicken farming (I nearly vomited and really wouldn't want to put any of those animals into my body)

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I just don't do meat dairy or eggs, for spiritual and health reasons. I've never tasted it to know the difference.

Shauna - posted on 12/06/2010

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We do all Organic. Some things there is proven no greater benifit, but Some things are proven its worth your time, for instance organic chicken is much better, any chicken you buy is pumped full of so much crap used to make the chicken itself bigger faster ..... and another reason is im a huge animal activist. Im not vegan however i dont agree with torturing an animal before its killed..... i try to do the cage free too.

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I agree that organic tastes so much better! That being said, I don't buy all organic. I buy "dirty" vegetable organic...like potatoes, yams, and carrots. The price is generally the same. I buy what I can at our local farmer's market...typically a whole chicken, eggs, and whatever fruits and veggies are in season. None if it is labeled "organic" however.

We've started our own garden this year, but it hasn't produced much yet. We've gotten two bellpeppers out of it...lol! We should have tons of shallots in the spring though. Husband's uncle was supposed to give him broccoli and cauliflower to plant, but we never got around to it. Hopefully we'll do better with our spring garden.

There is a local health food store that has a little restaurant inside...their "locally grown, hormone free, ant-biotic free, etc." foods are to die for! So yummy!

I plan to make baby food for number 2. Eliza ate mostly organic baby food, and I learned how to make my own right before she started on table food. I recently bought a huge food processor so I can make the baby food in bulk.

Maybe I'm a tad crunchy?

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