Justin Bieber: being gay is a decision and abortion is wrong even as a result of rape

Charlie - posted on 02/18/2011 ( 142 moms have responded )

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Fresh from winning a Brit award, teenage pop sensation Justin Bieber has suggested that homosexuality is a choice and that abortion is wrong even when pregnancy is caused by rape.



In an interview with Rolling Stone magazine, he appeared to label homosexuality as a choice rather than something that is uncontrollable.



He also spoke out against abortion even when pregnancy is caused by rape, saying “everything happens for a reason.”



The interview for next month’s Rolling Stone magazine has been distributed via blogs.



When asked what his views on homosexuality are, Bieber responded: “It’s everyone’s own decision to do that. It doesn’t affect me and shouldn’t affect anyone else.”



It is not clear whether he intended to label homosexuality as a lifestyle choice.



Bieber’s position stands in contrast with that of Lady Gaga who last year said: “there are some people in this world that believe being gay is a choice. It’s not a choice, we’re born this way.” Her single ‘Born This Way’ has been described as the new gay anthem by Sir Elton John.



In his interview with Rolling Stone magazine, Bieber went on to say “I think you should just wait for the person you’re … in love with,” when asked about abstinence.



Despite his strong Christian background he did not argue against pre-martial sex.



“I really don’t believe in abortion,” he told the magazine “I think [an embryo] is a human. It’s like killing a baby.”



He added that while it is “really sad” for a woman to become pregnant after being raped, he claimed that “everything happens for a reason.”



“I don’t know how that would be a reason,” he added. “I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”



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thoughts ?



Ok new question , should the media be aloud to print or air things from teens without parental permission and I say parents because obviously the PR guy or manager has ulterior motives behind decisions .

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Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Im serious when I say this, but your awesome to debate with Laura :) your intelligent and stubborn, like me! :D

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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And that was fine if you disagree,I dont mind thats why its called a debate! And im all for those! :) If I wasnt I wouldnt be here and studied it in college :)

Isobel - posted on 02/19/2011

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sorry...I was the only person who disagreed with you in between your two posts...I just assumed...but we all know what happens when you assume ;)

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Laura I didnt call you stupid.
If Iam adressing you,I will address you by your name..clear?

Isobel - posted on 02/19/2011

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ummm...it went from Beiber to the hood when you said he's pretending that he's from the hood, and some of disagreed which resulted in you calling us stupid...clear?

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Thats why I stopped Teresa, I refuse to give in to juveniles who want to get into semantics with me, but no I dont know anything about Canadian teens,dont want to,dont care too...I was just letting off some steam in my last post,and I couldnt tell you how it went from Justin beiber to the hood! LMAO! but its ridiculous,so im over it...onto bigger and better posts :)
GRACIAS TERESA! :)

Chelsea - posted on 02/19/2011

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I can't stand when people hate on others that they don't personally know. My sister is the same way with Justin Beiber...she says she hates him and when I ask her why she says "Because I just don't like him, he's so full of himself" Yet she obviously has never met the kid so how does she know what he's like :p lol. I personally am not really a fan of his, but I don't judge him because I don't know him. And from what I do know about him, I think he's a decent kid who has some natural talant and who worked very hard to get to where he is.

Jodi - posted on 02/19/2011

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Geez!! He's what 16 years old? Give him a break!! Why would they even ask him these questions?!!
I don't think I would expect my 16 year old to answer these questions for the public. If anything the PR or manager has gotten exactly what they wanted and to have everyone talking about his answers!?

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No one is saying you don't know what 'hood' is.... they are saying you don't know what a typical Canadian teen sounds like, so.... do you?

I have no clue either way as I have no experience w/ the hood, Canadian teens, OR Justin Bieber. I just think a 'competition' about the 'hood' is rather juvenile on this post.....

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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AY! Estupidos that dont know nothing,irritate me!
have a wonderful day ladies!
Peace out!

Isobel - posted on 02/19/2011

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he sounds like every teenage Canadian I've ever known...and I don't think he looks or sounds like he's trying to be like he's from the "hood".

He's cheesy pop, and it's fine to just say "I'm not a twelve year old" but honestly...you guys are over-hating a little.

But then again, I recall people saying all the same things about the New Kids, and N Sync, and every other teen idol sooooooooooooooo...who cares.

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Jenn are YOU trying to tell ME what hood is?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REALLY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JuLeah - posted on 02/19/2011

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He is a little boy with no life experiance and no real world education .... why does he even get to have an opinion?

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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You're right, working in the worst area in Tampa and dealing with prostitutes, pimps, thugs, and a shooting has nothing to do with the hood. And I know you weren't saying that he's hood, but he doesn't act or sound that way at all - he sounds like a typical Canadian teenager. So it's not opinion, it's fact. Since you want to call in my experience, may I ask what your experience is with Canadian teens?

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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OH and one more thing,I NEVER said Justin Beiber was hood! LOL! I said he TRIES TO BE, which makes him a front,Jenn. :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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A Strip Club is not hood...You may get girls from the Hood that work there,Strip clubs are sleazy theres a difference,anyway lets just say we agree to disagree Jenn :) Justin Beiber is a FRONT, and thats how I feel and thats MY OPINION and you think he's not, and thats YOUR OPINION,and I respect that..Im not 12 so Im not gonna argue over Justin Beiber. LOL!

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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Not at all Angela. He doesn't sound like anything other than himself. What you are hearing as far as an accent is a Canadian accent. You can look for any interview you want by him - he doesn't sound like anything but himself. As for my history, if you really find it so relevant, I lived and worked in Tampa for 3 years working at strip clubs, my ex was the manager of Starlite Lounge on Nebraska Ave - I think I've seen enough of the hood to know what it is and isn't - Justin Bieber it is not.

Dana - posted on 02/19/2011

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My thoughts are I think the title of this article is misleading. He never said being gay was a choice, his words are being twisted. He's a kid, let him act like one and maybe everyone should act like adults when responding to his naivety.

I also think he realized how ridiculous his statement on abortion was and tried to fix it, again, he's a kid who's being made to grow up fast.

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Oh wow! Okay.
It has alot to do with it.
I said He's a Big front cause he tries to talk like He's hood.
and then you post the video asking me the question how is he hood...
Well if you knew anything about it,you would be able to spot the accent,and it wouldnt sound fake or weird to you cause you know NOTHING of the hood. you dont have family that still lives there,you were never exposed to it as a child, But thats what it has to do with you history of the hood...make sense Jenn?

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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I'm not sure what my history with "the hood" has to do with Justin Bieber. Perhaps what you're hearing is his Canadian accent - not a fake "hood" accent, because to me he doesn't sound fake or weird. And saying "yeah" a lot is likely a way to fill in the space when you're thinking of what to say - a lot of people use words like "yeah, like, ummm", when trying to think of the right words to use.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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By the way April and Loureen - the whole German thing was because he was having a hard time understanding her thick accent and thought she was asking if his name (Bieber) was JEWMAN for basketball - he didn't know what "jewman" meant, and thought it was a local slang word.

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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His accent,in some parts you hear his accent,how he says Yeah a million times...and this is actually only one video and ive seen him in many other appearances...Jenn have you ever been to the hood? Have family that live there? Lived there yourself? lived there as a child?

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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well I dont like him cause he's a front...Jenn have you heard him talk? He talks like he's from the hood and that lil boy dont know nuthin about no hood! Trust me,he doesent.

And his whole stance on abortion?!
"He added that while it is “really sad” for a woman to become pregnant after being raped, he claimed that “everything happens for a reason.”

“I don’t know how that would be a reason,” he added. “I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”"

He himself,Doesent even know what he's talking about!
Yeah I would like for him to sit down with a rape victim,who is pregnant by the man that raped her and let him tell her "Everything Happens for a reason"....Yeah lets see what the woman whos been raped thinks about that.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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Why don't you like him Dana? Do you know him? He's a smart kid, who worked hard all on his own to reach his goals. You're right, what a horrible person and role model he is - work hard to get what you want.

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I'd still think he was a stupid teenager for answering questions that would bring down the wrath from the far right if he voiced an opposite opinion. As it is I don't think he really voiced a clear opinion on either issue. His responses were wishy washy, not young and idealistic, just a "try and keep everyone happy" response (which backfired) which is why his PR people should have stopped him answering.

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He's a stupid lil' puke, regardless of his opinions and whether or not I agree or disagree with him. I just don't like him or his music.

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Would you all be against him having an opinion if it was the one you want to hear? Or would he still be just a stupid teenager?

April - posted on 02/19/2011

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Ahem. Language, Dana! Just kidding! Love ya...but had to do it, hehe. :)

Angela - posted on 02/19/2011

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Since this is comingfrom a 16 year old, and the mastermind behind the song "baby", Im going to completley disregard what this little boy has to say...

And to answer the question, I think that when your a Teenager who's a celebrity and in Hollywood,the parents really dont have a say.

Isobel - posted on 02/19/2011

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I wish I knew now HALF of what I knew when I was 16.



I got an A+ on a pro-choice paper handed in to a pro-life teacher. I was smart and well informed, I had valid opinions...AND at 17 I dropped out of school and became a waitress because I was mad at my mom.



We have not turned teenagers into children, we have scientifically proven that they ARE still children. Their brains have not fully developed and their analytical and decision-making skills leave a little to be desired.



I'm not saying we should treat them like idiotic china dolls, but we DO need to take their words with a grain of salt cause they ARE still kids.

Danielle - posted on 02/19/2011

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I agree that he's young and should't have been asked those questions but as an individual he has a right to his oppinions. Would there be this much of an uproar if he had said what everyone wanted to hear? I don't agree with everything he says but I'm proud of him for standing up for his beliefs. It's ok to say I support abortion and I'm gay but if someone has a different oppinion and says otherwise then all of the sudden they are under scrutiny. I don't agree with it.

Chelsea - posted on 02/19/2011

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Tara- I agree with you, I think the media twisted his words. I may not agree with them...but I didn't find them hateful or homophobic at all.

Chelsea - posted on 02/19/2011

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I haven't read all the responses yet. But here's my opinion, first of all...he's a 16 year old boy. I think these questions were a little inappropriate to ask him in an interveiw. Yes, I think when you're a teenager your opinion does matter...but it should be taken with a grain of salt. I had lots of opinions at 16 and if I look back now, many of them have changed because I've lived and learned more. I know his mom is also very religous, so I'm sure she has a lot of influence on his answers. I don't hold it against him, he's young and immautre (as most 16 year old boys I know are---I have 14 and 16 year old brothers), when he gets older maybe his answers will change.

Esther - posted on 02/19/2011

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I think most of you know where I come down on the whole gay rights issue and teen pop stars / actors tend to make ny skin crawl (Bieber is no exception to this rule) but I do think he's entitled to his opinions just like anyone else. I'm sure he's repeating the values he was taught by his parents and that's perfectly fine. I hope my son will embrace my values too. They are pretty much the polar opposite of Bieber's. I didn't think he came across as hateful though. And remember - Britney Spears started out with this squeaky clean image too, dating equally squeaky clean Justin Timberlake and talking about how she didn't believe in sex before marriage. Ahhh how things change.

Tara - posted on 02/19/2011

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True but think of even more years ago, when teens ruled whole kingdoms and empires before they were even 16, some inheriting the throne at the age of 12 and managing to rule successfully well into middle age and beyond.
Children were given more responsibilities in eras past our so-called civilized/Christianized world. We have "infanticized" our children in the last few hundred years. Sure they are smarter when it comes to academics and technology than all generations preceding them, but when it comes to emotional intelligence and maturity and responsibility we have digressed from our ancient roots.

Mary - posted on 02/19/2011

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Tara, you are absolutely right that it depends on the teen in question....my mother ran an OB/GYN clinic in Baltimore City, so my sister and I were very well informed about sex, STD's, contraception, and abortion. I also went to an all-girls Catholic high school, taught by a very progressive group of nuns. They placed a huge emphasis on social awareness and responsibility, so topics such as homosexuality, war, morality, and politics were an integral part of our curriculum. While they did give us the Church's position on these topics, we were by no means brainwashed. They believed in empowering us to reach our own conclusions based on knowledge, and structured within a framework of open-mindedness, kindness and acceptance.

Going by many of the posts on here, this was a rather unique concept on how to educate teens.

I have no problems with him having views on these topics, but if I had a pre-teen daughter who was obsessed with him (god help me!) I would probably remind her that his views are no more relevant than that of the guy standing behind the counter at Dunkin Donuts.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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And I don't see that our society has put it's youth more and more on the back burner - I actually find the opposite. Think of years ago when children were to be seen and not heard - it certainly isn't that way now.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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@Tara - yes they are aware of the topics and some may know more than other do depending what they are exposed to in their own life, but to have a full grasp of them is entirely different. At 16 I knew what rape was and what being gay was and what abortion was and what war was, but I can honestly say that I didn't have a complete understanding of those things. Sure I had opinions, and I think it is great to get kids thinking about the world around them and to express their own thoughts and views, and to use their voices and be heard. I just don't think it's fair to bash a kid for speaking about something like this, when their opinion is likely based on very little real knowledge.

April - posted on 02/19/2011

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He's 16. He is still learning about the world. He's just repeating what he's been taught, because that's what children do. I don't think his comments should be printed without parental permission. If he had committed a crime, he wouldn't be able to be questioned without his parents being present, so I think the same rule should apply for celebrity interviews. I kind of feel bad for him...i feel like he was set up so that the interviewer(s) could make money off him. Most people with a Christian background will make Christian-like comments. It's the same trick lawyers use...ask questions you already know the answer to.

Jenn - posted on 02/19/2011

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A 16 year old holding down a job, raising a child, and paying rent have little to do with intelligence or their views on the world. And I don't know about anyone else, but I was not taught that much about politics or foreign government in school.

Tracey - posted on 02/19/2011

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Dear Mr Beiber. My friend was raped at age 4. If everything happens for a reason could you please explain the reason behind this?

Tara - posted on 02/19/2011

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@Jenn Morris
At 16 most kids do know about things going on in the world, they know about politics, they know about abortion. 16 year olds can be very well informed. It depends which ones you encounter I guess.
My 14 year old son knows about abortion, he has his own opinions on it, based on our discussions about it. He knows about poverty, war, homosexuality. One of his friends is gay, came out last year at 15. My son feels his friend has always been gay, was born that way and there is nothing different about him other than that he will eventually fall in love with a man while my son will fall in love with a woman.
If you look throughout history, as our society evolved we have given our young people less and less credit for being able to think in a lucid manner that can benefit society.
Knowledge is power. The more they know they better their understanding of how things fit together. At what age should they start thinking about these things? At what age is it appropriate?

Petra - posted on 02/19/2011

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I know a 16 year oldgirl and I want to barf almost every time she opens her mouth. I remember being 16 and full of half-formed opinions without any real logical basis, still being led by the id, worried more about my hair than my GPA... teens in our culture are very much still children. I fully agree that we don't really "grow up" until well in to our twenties. Whether or not Beiber meant what was printed, he should be handled gently because HE IS A KID. By definition, he is not responsible enough to act on his opinions (via voting) so no, he shouldn't be slammed for opening his mouth and saying some wishy-washy shit about political issues. Rolling Stone pulled some pretty douchey questions and Beiber's publicist dropped the ball. Revisit these questions once he's 18.

Amanda - posted on 02/19/2011

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These are topics that are taught in school Jenn (well not rape at full lenght), but gay relationships, politics, and everything else is, sure we talk about these things at home also. Justin didnt know what kind of government is in Korea, that is something that is taught long before age 16! Give me a break, many 16 year olds are holding down jobs, many work in politics, others are raising their own children, some are paying their own rent.

Problem with the world today is we dont give our children enough credit and treat them like their ideas, opinions are just silly and not well formed. Its no wonder 16 year olds sound like 9 year olds, and 20 years olds cant wipe their own asses.

Tara - posted on 02/19/2011

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I honestly have no problem with him stating his views. I do however have a problem with how it's being spun by the media.
His quotes on homosexuality seem more like a "to each their own" not "it's a choice they made to be gay".
I don't think he's homophobic in the slightest based on those quotes.
I don't have a problem with him answering supposed "adult" questions. He is 16 years old, when exactly are people "supposed" to start thinking about the world they live in and forming the seeds of opinion about it? Are we really suggesting that he should just talk about hair and clothes and music? Why? Why can't the youth of our world have a political or religious opinion?
I understand they have little experience and are often not that wise, however if he has an opinion on abortion, that's his opinion. However again it doesn't say he is against abortion, he even said he can't judge that because he's not in that position.
Teenagers can be thoughtful, articulate and intelligent, sometimes more so than adults. And if we continue to discredit their opinions and tell them they are too young to be thinking about these kinds of issues, we we only going to succeed in breeding an apathetic generation who doesn't feel their opinions are valid or have any merit at all.
Why isn't abortion an appropriate topic for teens? There are lots of teens who contemplate and/or have abortions. And many who know of someone who has had to face that decision.
I think his PR person shouldn't have allowed this line of questioning. If they agreed to it before the interview, that's their choice. If they didn't they could have opted to not answer them. But obviously Justin doesn't want to be seen as just a teeny bopper, he feels he has something else to say, like it or not, personally I'm glad to see any teen discussing issues that matter to the world, even if their opinion doesn't jive with my own. Just the fact there is dialogue about important issues is a good start to their future as our leaders.
Just my take on it. I love to see teens get involved in politics and debates and anything other than who is dating who, what colour their hair is and what part of their body they are getting pierced this week. ;P

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