Law of attraction

Kylie - posted on 10/02/2009 ( 15 moms have responded )

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The Law of Attraction says people's thoughts (both conscious and unconscious) dictate the reality of their lives, whether or not they're aware of it. Essentially "if you really want something and truly believe it's possible, you'll get it", but putting a lot of attention and thought onto something you don't want means you'll probably get that too thoughts have an energy which attracts whatever it is the person is thinking of.
Scientists have stated that many of the Law's claims appear impossible without violating scientific principles and a scientific understanding of the universe.

I don’t really consider myself a spiritual person but a few years back I read that book The Secret and did some counseling and my therapist taught me about affirmations and I felt a shift in my life. I started to visualize the things I hoped for and consciously decided to be more positive. I really like the idea of gratitude -when you’re thankful and appreciative of everything in your life, more good things for you to be appreciate of come your way. So this is an example that I think is the law of attraction that happened to me last week. I really wanted a new leather lounge suite I had been thinking about it for a while as my husband bought me a leather rocker recliner when my son was born and it’s so comfortable but didn’t match our lounge furniture. Anyway, I was thinking about a new lounge before bed , I pictured my lounge room with a comfy plush couch, imagined them smell etc I wasn’t consciously thinking if I visualize this I’ll get it, it was more a fantasy/dream sort of winding down thought b4 sleep. The next morning we were supposed to meet up with my cousin and the kids were going to have a play but she canceled so we decided to take my daughter to Ikea so she could play with some kids at the creche. I had no intention of buying anything but we looked around then went to the “seconds” section of the warehouse and there was a three seater leather lounge, the same design and colour as my recliner at home and it was 500 dollars off - it had been returned because there was a scuff mark on the back. It was exactly what I wanted at an awesome price so we got it.
So what do you reckon ..

Do you think your thoughts have energy and can attract abundance into your life or is it your actions that really matter and bring change?
Do you believe in the law of attraction?

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Amie - posted on 10/03/2009

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Diana I think you've missed the entire point.

It's not about positive affirmation towards ridiculous things. If someone wants something bad enough though and stays positive it will happen.

While many concede it to be a spiritual thing it's not entirely one. A positive thinking person is more apt to keep their eye on the goal and get where they want to be. I'm not saying they don't speak to God, the Universe, what have you but it is more of a way to keep themselves going and saying 'Ok this is what I want and where I want to be, show me the way to get there.' No one has ever said stuff just appears.

On the other hand negative people tend to keep themselves secluded and seem to look for the bad in every situation. When that happens they breed it into their soul and then everything turns to the crapper. 'Ya I got the promotion but now I'm working longer hours, paying more taxes, etc.' Instead of just being happy they are moving up the ladder they are picking apart and focusing on the bad.

I know people who are both ways. One of mine and my husband's friends fell ass backwards into money. I'm not kidding. He is worth millions. He's one of the most positive people I've ever met. He set his goal, kept his eye on his goal and didn't deviate or become negative when he had setbacks. He surrounded himself with positive people who also helped him along the way. If he had nitpicked and said this is too hard, it's taking too long; If he had surrounded himself with negative people who continually badgered him with how terrible the setbacks are, just give up.... I have no doubt he'd still be a lowly worker instead of the owner of his own lucrative business.

Our negative friend is constantly going up against barriers. Just because of the way he thinks. Something that is minor is a HUGE deal to him. I'm not entirely sure why or when he became this way, he just is. Even when the good things come along you can see that he still is focusing on the negative therefore bringing himself down. He is also draining to be around. He drains me physically, mentally and emotionally just because my positive energy has to work double time to keep myself from letting his negative ways affect me.

Everyone is, more or less, going to get different messages from these types of ideas.

For me though it's about putting it out there, staying positive and surrounding yourself with the right people. I will talk to God and ask for guidance. I will ask him to bring into my life the tools and people I need to succeed. BUT I do not expect anything to be handed to me, I don't think anyone does.

Look at your circle of friends, do you tend to notice that the majority are like minded individuals? That is the law of attraction at work. You attract and maintain relationships with people who are similiar to you.

Everyone needs some variety though that's why we stay friends with the people who are negative and try to show them the way to be positive. My husband and I lead through example though as do many who are like us do.

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JL - posted on 10/05/2009

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Quoting Esther:

I'm with Diane & Jenifer on this one. I think having a positive attitude is important in life because it gives you the strength to keep going when you're met with adversity. However, when I saw the writer of "The Secret" on Oprah, I too immediately thought of the people in Darfur and frankly I found the whole concept more than a little offensive considering all the people in situations like that. I don't doubt for a minute that those people are fervently hoping and dreaming of a better life and that they fight for that better life each and every day, but their kids are still dying, their mothers and daughters are still being raped, their sons are still starving etc. It does feel a little "blame the victim" to me and that's impossible for me to swallow.



I agree with Esther, Diane, and Jenifer. Having a positive attitude is important but I really really dislike the "blame the victim" sentiment that comes along with this idea. I was in a relationship when I was a teen that at one point turned abusive. I was not a depressed person lacking self esteem. This guy was a great guy until he started battling with his own inner demons and it seemed like overnight he became a cheating, alcoholic jerk. He started off as nice considerate guy and then snapped and hit me. I walked away from that relationship even though he did not. He kept trying to come back and I said no. He unfortuanetly got worse and killed himself, but I fail to see where it was that I had such a negative thought process that I brought that type of relationship on to myself. I did not ask for him to hit me, I did not think bad things were going to happen, I did not have a low self esteem, and I sure did not stick around when that did happen to me, but it did happen.



 

Esther - posted on 10/05/2009

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I'm with Diane & Jenifer on this one. I think having a positive attitude is important in life because it gives you the strength to keep going when you're met with adversity. However, when I saw the writer of "The Secret" on Oprah, I too immediately thought of the people in Darfur and frankly I found the whole concept more than a little offensive considering all the people in situations like that. I don't doubt for a minute that those people are fervently hoping and dreaming of a better life and that they fight for that better life each and every day, but their kids are still dying, their mothers and daughters are still being raped, their sons are still starving etc. It does feel a little "blame the victim" to me and that's impossible for me to swallow.

Kylie - posted on 10/04/2009

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I’m not offended, that’s why I brought this up ..I have trouble with the blame the victim side of things. But I guess if I believe that any thought I have, when combined with my emotions, vibrates out from me into the universe and attracts back what I’ve put out it includes the good and bad things. When horrible things happen to people it seems harsh to say well it’s their own fault. Of course nobody wants to be raped or abused and they don’t deserve it but if they are depressed and worry about bad things occurring and happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time vibrating with negative energy then that’s when the random, horrible things go on. Women who keep ending up with men who beat them don’t deserve to be hurt but they have low self esteem and they think consciously or subconsciously this is what they are worth and they expect it and so the universe delivers...
Children starving in Africa could be starving because of their own thoughts because they are born and taught that the ways of the world is that they have no food and this lesson is repeated over and over again and reinforced by their hunger.
A lot of people have never hear of the concept of positive energy and emotional vibrations so these negative things keep happening and building up and they just think they are unlucky I guess.
I don’t want to be judgmental or put blame on people I can only comment from my own personal experience…I suppose I believe in the power of positive thinking probably more so than the law of attraction. I really don’t think a child is abused because they have attracted it by their thoughts and feelings.

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Quoting Jenifer:

Hmm. I hope I don't offend, but no, I do not believe that our thoughts (conscious or unconscious) dictate the reality in our lives. I do believe that the way we respond to what is around us can bring change, and that we can control whether we have a positive or negative attitude, but that is not at all what the law of attraction is about. I'd have to say I not only think it is wrong, but I find it to be dangerous when taken to its logical extreme.

My mother-in-law is into this, and has been trying to convince us for quite some time. When she visited recently, she told us about how she was trying to think positively during her flight, because if enough people on the plane though about it crashing, that it might actually happen. My husband asked her if she felt that plane crashes - or bombings - happen as a result of the negative thoughts of the people on board. If you bring both the good and the bad with your thoughts, how is that not saying that when something bad happens in your life, it is because you asked for it? Does a rape victim attract a rapist with her thoughts, conscious or unconscious?

I just don't see how the law of attraction is even plausible (not even thinking about the spiritual side) when there is so much evil, disease, genocide, and random violence in the world. I think this idea is attractive and empowering in societies that are prosperous - where you actually can go out and get what you want because the opportunities exist. But I don't think this idea would go over so well in impoverished parts of the world - I mean, are all the children who starve to death each day doing so because they don't know what they really want or because they actually do want to starve? To me, it doesn't sound much different that the Christian "gospel of wealth" idea, which, again, in its extreme perpetuates the idea that if something bad comes into your life it is because you didn't pray enough.



Thanks for articulating what was bothering me about this suggestion. I couldn't put my finger on it quite enough to get my point across. =)

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Hmm. I hope I don't offend, but no, I do not believe that our thoughts (conscious or unconscious) dictate the reality in our lives. I do believe that the way we respond to what is around us can bring change, and that we can control whether we have a positive or negative attitude, but that is not at all what the law of attraction is about. I'd have to say I not only think it is wrong, but I find it to be dangerous when taken to its logical extreme.

My mother-in-law is into this, and has been trying to convince us for quite some time. When she visited recently, she told us about how she was trying to think positively during her flight, because if enough people on the plane though about it crashing, that it might actually happen. My husband asked her if she felt that plane crashes - or bombings - happen as a result of the negative thoughts of the people on board. If you bring both the good and the bad with your thoughts, how is that not saying that when something bad happens in your life, it is because you asked for it? Does a rape victim attract a rapist with her thoughts, conscious or unconscious?

I just don't see how the law of attraction is even plausible (not even thinking about the spiritual side) when there is so much evil, disease, genocide, and random violence in the world. I think this idea is attractive and empowering in societies that are prosperous - where you actually can go out and get what you want because the opportunities exist. But I don't think this idea would go over so well in impoverished parts of the world - I mean, are all the children who starve to death each day doing so because they don't know what they really want or because they actually do want to starve? To me, it doesn't sound much different that the Christian "gospel of wealth" idea, which, again, in its extreme perpetuates the idea that if something bad comes into your life it is because you didn't pray enough.

Kylie - posted on 10/04/2009

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I think when you work out what you truly want it will happen, don't focus on the thoughts of losing half your income. Tell yourself you will make it work/ it will happen and it will be worth it. You'll find a way to go back to school (if that's what you really want) and you and your family will be able to live well with less income for those few years.
This is a little run down i got off Wikipedia :
In order to control this energy to one's advantage, proponents state that people must practice four things:

1. Know exactly what you want.
2. Ask the universe for it.
3. Feel, behave and know as if the object of your desire is already yours (visualize).
4. Be open to receive it and let go of (the attachment to) the outcome.

Thinking of what one does not have, they say, manifests itself in not having, while if one abides by these principles, and avoids "negative" thoughts, the universe will manifest a person's desires.

I haven't worked at all this year and my partner works a 40 hour week for a laborers wage but we have a nice house in a good area with a mortgage, two cars, bills paid on time (mostly), my children have extra curricular activities and nice things and we still have money saved. Some times we look at what we earn and cant believe we make it week to week but most the time i am confident about my choice to stay home and never worry about money. I KNOW we are doing well, and I make money on the side or come up with a way to save on something i feel very grateful. I know family with both parents who work full time and they still struggle to maintain their lifestyle and they are feeling the recession badly.. so i really do believe its about your state of mind.

Jeannette - posted on 10/04/2009

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Hmmm....if this is true....I am worried that I will lose my job. I don't know what I would do, or how we will fare if I were to lose exactly half of our income.I have lost sleep over this one, and worry at work as well.
On the other hand, I wish I could quit my job. I would love to go back to school and learn another trade in which to make a living. I would love to do something more relaxing and worthwhile for me.
So far...I have been thinking these things simultaneously for almost a year...nothing has happened either way...what do you think?

Charlie - posted on 10/04/2009

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I believe in the law of attraction but i think the positive affirmations you give yourself when attracting your goals set you in motion to become more proactive , it can happen both consciously and subconsciously .

Of course if i feel positive and have my mind set on a goal it will be easy for me to achieve my goals i have used it many times in my life my first most successful ,conscious time was when i was 15 in high school i said to myself
" i AM going to be school captain "
There was no " i'd like to be " or " wouldnt it be nice " i said it without a doubt i was going to be school captain .
I wasn't the most popular or beautiful or studious person at school in fact i used to get in a lot of trouble but i gained focus and reached out to all the students at our school , i got to know everyone from every group and age , i put my head down and studied and 2 years later my when the captaincy went to vote my name was called out as the 2002 high school Capt, i was so proud of myself .
Later in life when i left school i think subconsciously i willed negativity into my life, i was depressed , i couldn't care less about myself or anyone else and i found myself being attracted to people of the same attitude .
My boyfriends during that period were complete assholes but i came to the realization that this is what i was inviting into my life my attitude was attracting these asshole boyfriends , when i finally realized i was worth something ( thanks to my fiance ) good things started happening i started a career i never dreamed i would be in and fell in love with it , i made the most honest and best friends of my life and started to love myself from then on all these amazing opportunities came to me .

I think the universe runs on energies , i believe energy is our life force and how you put out in your energy ( positive or negative ) determines what energy flow you will receive .
i could go on forever about it but i guess it would be the equivalent of bible bashing .
J/K
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I think positive and negative energies attract alike energies but i also think people with say a strong negative energy have the power to drain positive people .

Amie - posted on 10/03/2009

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"For me though it's about putting it out there, staying positive and surrounding yourself with the right people. I will talk to God and ask for guidance. I will ask him to bring into my life the tools and people I need to succeed. BUT I do not expect anything to be handed to me, I don't think anyone does."

That is what is in my last post. My point being, which was obviously lost, to succeed we need to stay positive and keep going. We may not always get the desired result, we may not always get what we think we WANT but we will always get what we NEED. If a person was not meant to be a dancer, as your example, then you have two options. You can stay positive and look for what you are really supposed to be doing (as you did) OR you can start the cycle of negativity and thus begins the life of hardships. Nothing is ever good enough, nothing is ever a benefit, the negative thoughts are always right there sitting behind every reaction.

The hardest part for any person to understand about the law of attraction is that you need to remain doubt free. This is something very few people master. All it takes are those fleeting moments of doubt to spin your axis just slightly off course. Even a slight deviation can have disastrous consequences, on the other hand it could just be a little hiccup in your day to day life. I myself still struggle with my own doubts about my life and my path but I stay positive and when I see opportunities open up before me I take them. They don't just appear but I am always on the watch for them. I leave it up to God, the Universe, whoever you wish to label it to and try not to worry. When those opportunities are given to me (for lack of a better word) then I work my butt off to succeed. When that chapter closes in my life I start looking for the next.

As humans we are continually growing and learning. Mentally, Emotionally, Spiritually, we are always expanding our knowledge and thought processes. It is what we do with them when they are handed to us that matters. Positive or Negative... it matters and shows in how people live their lives.

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Yes, and I think you're right. And what I'm saying is not that we can't turn bad around for good, because that's what we have to do to avoid being prickly, negative people who walk around with rainclouds over our heads.



Michael Jordan said: "I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. Twenty-six times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."



If he'd let those missed shots and lost games set him back to begin with, he'd never have become the big, recognized althete that he is. We have to think about it in those terms-failure being a way to success-or we'll never leave the couch.



My point is only that we can't all be famous, or rich, or astronaunts, even if we really want to be. To suppose that just because we didn't achieve that particular dream because we didn't really want it supposes that we did something wrong, which isn't always the case-some people just really can't dance (*sigh* I wish I could. I have no rhythm though, and although I've tried to learn from several different people, I'm just awkward when I attempt it.) What we can do, though, is what you said-find something else that we really want, dust ourselves off, and move along, and eventually find something that makes us happy. I found that I was much more suited to academics. It makes me a little nerdy, but it also makes me happy.

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Quoting Diana:

To illustrate with a petty something from my past: In the 9th grade, I wanted very badly to be on our school's dance team. I practiced every day for months, took cardio classes to lose weight and get in better shape, and spent most of my time with people who were also trying out. However, when we tried out, I didn't make it.




Did you do something else instead? Something that you did have that innate talent for? Did it lead you to something that was your 'forte' if you will? Did you let that be a negative 'set back' or a valuable lesson?



I think this is a point that needs a little attention in this topic. When we end up coming a lil short with something we REALLY REALLY want, do we leave that as a fail or do we take from it the lesson and continue on enjoying what we really really want and go onto other things to see if maybe THAT thing that we REALLY REALLY want is the thing that is going to be the clicker, the thing that makes it all make sense?

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I see your point-I just don't think that wanting something is always enough. Although something may seem ridiculous to you, it's not neccessarily ridiculous to the person who wants it-and they may want it very badly and still not get it. I just think that the idea dwarfs the effort of people who work hard but never achieve what they really want, suggesting that they just didn't "want it" bad enough. To illustrate with a petty something from my past: In the 9th grade, I wanted very badly to be on our school's dance team. I practiced every day for months, took cardio classes to lose weight and get in better shape, and spent most of my time with people who were also trying out. However, when we tried out, I didn't make it. I'd worked very hard, but I just wasn't as talented as some of the other people who tried out, and I if someone had told me, as I sat at home crying that night, that I just hadn't wanted it bad enough, I'd have knocked them across the room. I wanted it, but there was also an innate talent that I didn't have and there were judges whose reaction I couldn't control.



I guess basically I just dont't believe the whole "perception is reality" thing. I think that there are some things out of our control, and just because we want something, or we perceive something to be true, doesn't mean that's going to happen or that that perception is correct. I can tell you "the sky is purple," and honestly believe that it is, and that won't change the fact that the sky is actually blue.



I never believed Nietzsche's idea that there are no facts. That itself is an attempt at fact. Somtimes things just are, even if we don't want to believe it.



I'm rambling. I'll stop now. =)

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I think that both matter-but I don't believe that just because you want something bad enough you'll get it. I mean, I want a new Mustang Shelby. I mean, I really, really, really want it. But no amount of wanting is going to get me a Shelby-if I can ever afford one, it's going to come after I get my master's degree and after I fulfill some other obligations-buying a home (way more important, since I have a car that runs), putting away money for my son's college fund, making sure we're all clothed and fed, etc. Lots of boys (and girls) really, really want to be sports stars-but very few do. There are tons of musicians, artists, writers, and actors, all dreaming of making it big-but very few have that chance. Some of them don't "want it bad enough," sure-but others just don't have the opportunity, and still others just aren't as good as they need to be to make it big-they don't have the innate talent, although they wish to high hell they did.



I think it belittles people's experiences in some way when they're told that they just have to want it bad enough and they'll get it-because then they think that if they fail at something, it's because they didn't put enough effort into it, when sometimes you do all you can and it's just still not quite enough.



I'd like to say that we can do anything we want if we just want it bad enough-but there are just too many examples to the contrary.

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