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Marylea - posted on 01/31/2011 ( 154 moms have responded )

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Is it really necessary to use formula if you are able to breast feed? I understand that some women can't breast feed due to medical reasons or other issues but if you're healthy and lactating is there any excuse to not breast feed or pump and bottle feed?? Just curious as to what people think about this.

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Mary - posted on 02/01/2011

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Becky, I breastfed my child until she self weaned. However, it is posts such as yours that (almost) make me ashamed to admit it, for fear that others might assume I share your rather harsh and judgmental views.

One of the things I've noticed about the more condescending and quick-to-condemn mothers...they tend to be the ones for whom things come rather easily. Instead of thanking their lucky stars that they did not have significant issues with latch, supply, or whatever, they instead come to the grossly erroneous conclusion that breastfeeding is as easy for the rest of the world. Apparently, their child was draining them of not only milk, but compassion and empathy as well.

Iris - posted on 01/31/2011

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Why is it that women that bottle fed their children always have to explain there reason to the breastfeeding moms?

If I had been one, I really would get pissed over always having to defend my decision and airing my personal reasons knowing that for some mothers no reason is good enough.

Do what you think is best for you and your baby. Both my nephews and my niece were bottle fed, all doing fine, looking good and healthy without any extra weight on their bodies.

Isobel - posted on 01/31/2011

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Some women don't want to breastfeed...and in the end (imho) a happy mother is more important to the well-being of the baby than breastmilk.

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Becky, there's a difference between an opinion and an insult. For you to have the opinion that formula should be by prescription only? Fine. Opinion. But for you to say that anyone who doesn't fit into that 2% and still uses formula shouldn't be a mother? Insult. For you to suggest that a FF baby isn't as smart as a BF baby? Insult.

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Marylea, in your last post you made a statement that isn't true for all women, and I think that's what a lot of us are trying to get accross. You said, "I would tell them that though it may seem hard at times breastfeeding is a wonderful experience that I wouldn't exchange for the world." This is true for YOU. Breastfeeding was NOT a wonderful experience for me and the entire 8 weeks I suffered through it was the most miserable I have been in my life. I read the books when I was pregnant. I had lactation specialists and a midwife and all kinds of loving support around me but still...it just didn't work. You were right about one thing though, people judge on both "sides" of the issue and that's a problem. I think more people need to do what Sara suggested, and stop all the judging, try to see things from another's eyes, give support instead of criticism....understanding instead of sweeping judgements....

And seriously, whoever it is that's making the comments about FF babies having lower IQ's (I still can't see the name on those posts), I was formula fed and have an IQ of 142, which is borderline genius. And that was formula made back in 1971, before they got so serious about their standards. Nature AND nurture. I also take it personally when anyone even suggests that my son (or any other FF babies) may be sub par to anyone else's child....especially when it comes from someone who doesn't know me or anyone else in this "room".

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Nikkole - posted on 02/01/2011

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And W. H. O. is a good organization but do they know everything NO could W.H.O. Make women who could NOT produce milk produce it even when the Dr's couldn't I HIGHLY doubt it! I remember one time i went into WIC and they asked if i was breastfeeding and i said i tried but i couldn't produce any milk (i tried for a month) The lady looked at me and said "OH your POOR little babies" I was like WTF lady im not throwing them in the washing machine!

Becky - posted on 02/01/2011

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Jodi, I didn't realize you'd had your girls! Congratulations! I'm sorry to hear they're in the NICU. I hope they are doing well and are home with you soon!



And I wanted to point out that there are 2 (at least) Beckys on here and this one does not think formula should be available by prescription only and couldn't give 2 hoots about how someone else chooses to feed their child, as long as you're not feeding your 2 week old cheeseburgers! :)

Nikkole - posted on 02/01/2011

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Becky i said breastfeeding was BEST like 2 or 3 times in my last post NO ONE on here has said breastfeeding was a waste of time or energy i think you are making these things up in your head! And FOR me i have NEVER propped a bottle up to clean or do ANYTHING my daughter started holding her own bottle at 4 1/2 months so i let her while i cleaned my house and took care of my other child :) And for those who have propped a bottle IT's NONE of your buissness good for you that you breastfeed and didn't prop bottles or whatever do you want a pat on the back or a cookie?

Stifler's - posted on 02/01/2011

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Yeah I'm waiting to hear the cut off for breastfeeding success and when it's acceptable to wean and whether going back to work and not being able to pump warrants a prescription!

Isobel - posted on 02/01/2011

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I'm still waiting for an answer to my question too...who, exactly is going to be responsible for all the shaken and neglected babies of the mothers who hate breastfeeding and do it anyways because they are too ashamed to go get the prescription?

*continue jeopardy theme song

Krista - posted on 02/01/2011

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Shit i wish i had had access to the amazing wealth of knowledge that can be found here eighteen years ago when i had my first child, instead of reading all those books and studies, instead of believing the W.H.O and all of the other organizations who have spent year's studying breastfeeding throughout the world, i would have known that breastfeeding is a pointless waist of time and energy with no benefits that anyone would notice. Fuck me my house would be spotless i could have just propped a bottle in their little mouths and got on with the hoovering!

Nobody light a match! Not around that gigantic strawman Becky just created!

Becky, come on. Nobody here is saying that breastfeeding is a pointless waste of time and energy with no benefits.

They ARE saying that it's not the miracle cure for all ills that some lactivists make it out to be. They're also saying that it's not as though breastfed babies are geniuses while formula-fed babies couldn't find their own asses with two hands and a sherpa.

And they're ALSO saying that the very idea of making formula available via prescription only is impractical, unfeasible, and will create a hell of a lot more problems than it solves.

So, do you want to address the actual points raised (such as the questions I asked earlier?) Or would you rather have fun arguing with whatever imaginary opponent who said that breastfeeding is pointless?

Stifler's - posted on 02/01/2011

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Hilarious. I agree with Marina, we don't need an excuse or even have to justify why we formula fed. It actually disappoints me that there is such attitude about this.

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I will say what someone told me when I put this question out in the reverse. Mind your own business.
Of ALL the things in the world that are happening to children via their birth parents or relatives "do you really think that a mother not breastfeeding is a biggest thing that (you all) can focus your attention on?" These mothers who are not breastfeeding are obviously feeding their children or we'd hear about it. And if formula was SO bad then we'd be seeing a huge increase in infant deaths now wouldn't we?
I had two 9# and 10# children who are in the 95th percentile and I was unable to breastfeed due to medical reasons and people with questions such as yours made me feel awful when I payed a lactation "specialist" to tell me keep trying and have nothing happen. To stay in recovery and resist sugar water and formula as I repeatedly tried to get my child to latch on for nothing to happen.
JUST BE HAPPY THAT A MOTHER IS LOVING HER CHILDREN, TAKING CARE OF THEM AND PROTECTING THEM AND LET GO OF THIS CRUSADE TO MAKE CERTAIN WOMEN FEEL BAD FOR NOT MAKING THE SAME CHOICES AS YOU.

Sal - posted on 02/01/2011

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i just did go back and read a few more pages, and becky the babies right to milk above the mothers right not to give it, what about my right to be in control of my body, after all they are my tits, if you want to breast feed good for you, but it is my body, and if i don;t feel comfortable letting some kid hang off my boobs for 10 hr a day (and yep 10 hours is about right) i don;t have to. My sister loves bf and had breast feed almost nonstop for 3 kids in 7 years, even when we tried to get her to get some antidepresants she wouldn;t as she would have to stop, when i asked her why not,( her 3rd baby was around a year old ) she said it was the only thing she was good at (bad mental state- thus needing some meds) and she needed the rest that sitting with her baby gave her, she also said she love the comfort that the skin to skin contact gave her, so it was more abut her wanting to continue for her own reasons than for the baby, so clearly by this point there was more in it for her than the baby- but because she was bf no one tried to stop her or judge her, and even though we were really worried about her mental health no one had the right over her bady to make her stop even though i truly felt her children-all of them not just the bf baby would benifit from a happy stable mum , i never had thise feelings and the desire to continue was never there and i really hated the physical feeling of it, i felt like an old cow sitting there with a unsatisfied baby sucking all day, so basically my bady my choice..

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NO ONE on this post is saying that breastfeeding is bad or a waste of time. Do you want to 'win over' formula feeders.... or just insult them?

Breastfeeding and breastmilk are AWESOME!! But formula feeders are NOT bad parents and aren't condemning their kids to anything simply by giving them formula.

You ALMOST make me ashamed at being a breastfeeding supporter.

Sherri - posted on 02/01/2011

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You know we are not slamming you for doing what you thought was best for your child. Don't you DARE slam another mother for doing what we needed to for ours. Your opinion is simply close minded and not helpful in any form. Quite honestly you come across as a twit.

Krista - posted on 02/01/2011

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And....I'm still waiting for Becky to answer my questions.

(cue the theme from "Jeopardy")

Johnny - posted on 02/01/2011

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The WHO says nothing of the sort. Please post links to the ACTUAL medical studies.

Johnny - posted on 02/01/2011

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Oh, and the part about if you can't breastfeed, don't have children? Are we supposed to guess? Should I have given up half my kid when I had to use formula to supplement? That was between 1 month and 5 months... should I have chopped her in half and then sewn her back together once my supply caught up to her needs? I never understand this idea that non-breastfeeders aren't fit to parent. There are lots of reasons people are crap ass parents, but as long as they are feeding their children to the very best of their own ability, it's certainly not part of the problem. I'm sure people around her can tell you that I am a big breastfeeding proponent. I even think that in an ideal world where everyone had easy access to medical servies, insurance coverage, pharmacies and women weren't judged for using formula that it would be better to give it out by prescription. Sadly, the world doesn't really stack up in that department, babies would really suffer under such a plan.

Becky - posted on 02/01/2011

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Shit i wish i had had access to the amazing wealth of knowledge that can be found here eighteen years ago when i had my first child, instead of reading all those books and studies, instead of believing the W.H.O and all of the other organizations who have spent year's studying breastfeeding throughout the world, i would have known that breastfeeding is a pointless waist of time and energy with no benefits that anyone would notice. Fuck me my house would be spotless i could have just propped a bottle in their little mouths and got on with the hoovering!

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"The one with the lower IQ
The one with an increased chance of dying of sids
The one with obesity
The one with a higher chance of getting many different cancer's
The one who's poo stinks because his gut is reacting against the foreign substance in his body
The one who has many more, and much more serious infections throughout his life."

Could you post the links to the medical studiest that have demonstrated any of your assertions Becky? Those that have found support for the idea that formula feeding significantly increases the odds of these problems occuring when other factors have been controlled for? Probably not, because they don't exist. At least, I've never been able to find them after significant searching. Please enlighten me.

Laressa - posted on 02/01/2011

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I'm pro breastfeeding. Not quite sure if I'm anti formula tho. Before my milk came in at 3 or 4 days my daughter had bad jaundice so she needed extra fluids, which I just didn't have yet. Jaundice also made her more sleepy, which didn't help for getting more fluid into her. We fed her formula with a syringe. Breast feeding was such a challenge for us, but my hubby wants nothing to do with formula or bottles when there isn't a real need for it, so I ended up breastfeeding for 13 months. I'm glad I did it when I know how proud it makes him that his daughter got the best, even if it was sometimes a sacrifice for us.

I almost gave up and gave her formula around 5 months. I tried and tried to get her to take a bottle and she would not do anything with it. I really don't understand how moms can suddenly start bottlefeeding.

So yes I was lucky enough to have the support to keep going on tough days. And I think that was crucial to my being able to do it. But what about those who don't have that?

I do think that formula is overadvertised. I think there should be more done to encourage breast feeding and more limit on formula ads.

Nikkole - posted on 02/01/2011

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With my son i didn't produce ANY milk at all and i felt HORRIBLE for it because i couldn't breastfeed my baby, with my daughter i tried but she wouldn't latch on and i didn't have ANY support my mom is the type who thinks breastfeeding is awful and gross I WISH i had the support to breastfeed and it makes me sad that i wasn't able to or able to get help! But i thank god for formula if not for it my babies would starve! And Becky im sorry but your OPINIONS are not opinions they are just rude comments in my opinion and yes Breast feeding is the best but when you 1.)cant produces milk or 2.) have no support or education on breastfeeding then its hard to breastfeed! I LOVE my children with all my heart and i give up PLENTY for them if it means i dont get clothes so my kids get them or i dont eat because my kids need food then so be it! My son and daughter are VERY smart for there ages (son is 3 daughter is 6months) And who ever said if you walk into a kindergarten class and you can not tell the difference between bottle or breast feed kids they were EXACTLY right i used to work in a kindergarten class and they ALL were picking there little noses and drawing blobs that were supposed to be puppy and saying there ABC's and writing there names! It really upsets me when someone says WELL my baby was breastfeed so my kids smarter than yours (not saying ANYONE on here has said that) or my kids healthier than yours because i breastfeed i KNOW breast milk is the way to go so MAKE me feel worse knowing i couldn't and didn't do it!

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i have tried to catch up on the whole conversation but frankly i didn't have time to bf with toddlers around and i certainly don;t have time to read 7 pages of this thread, i would like to add a litte something, this is for all those who think that formula should be prescription, for god sake ladies get real, do you really think that the best use of our precious dr time is to prescribe formula for some poor mum who just wants to get the baby feed, i currently live in a small town with 1 dr, a non urgent appointment can take upto 3 weeks and cost 60 up front, i could drive the 80km round trip to my personal dr she has a waiting list of upto 4 weeks for non urgent cases, and where i used to live there was no dr, the closest was 60km each way and no public transport, so how exactly would this grand plan work, my milk dried up pretty much over night (i discovered it was as i fell pegnant, i know it doesn't happen to all mums but it did for me) there was no dr in town and i would of had to drive the 60 km each way to get a prescription to feed the baby, how fucking long does that take.....she would of dies of hunger and i'd have docs on my back for neglect....wake up ladies

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Thank you Joy! I knew it was there, but really did NOT want to be the one to go find it.

I'm pretty sure that formula feeding mothers make sacrifices for their children too.... and love them just as much as a breastfeeding mother.

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no it's not a fact. it's a crap study that doesn't take into count that richer people have better access to education, and richer people are the ones that usually breastfeed.

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Not all women fit into your 2% Becky. Some women choose not to breastfeed. How does this make them not ready for motherhood?

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Becky, way back on page 4, wasn't it you who said this?

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IMHO....no.
I had a hard time breastfeeding all of mine but I managed it and I did it until they were about a year old. My sister couldn't as she has enlarged nipples, however, she still pumped everyday through the day so that she could give her daughter breastmilk.
Remember this is MY OPINION....and everyone will have a different one.

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Not all babies do formula fed babies are just as smart. Go into any Kindergarten and you would never be able to point out what kids were bf or ff. That is simply Hogwash!!!

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No i have not ever said that women who use formula should not be mother's maybe re read the post "in context" and it is a fact that breast fed baby's have an increased IQ.

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This is a post about whether there is any excuse for not breastfeeding if your not one of the 2%of women that cant.
Whether i have ever breastfed or not is irrelevant, i am just giving my opinion based on the research i have done on the subject, and trying not to personalize the debate.

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BF, FF whatever, as long as you are feeding your infant! i'm a big supporter of "Breast is best" and yes there are benefits to breast feeding, but i really don't care how another mother feeds her baby, within AAP guidelines of course.

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"The one with the lower IQ
The one with an increased chance of dying of sids
The one with obesity
The one with a higher chance of getting many different cancer's
The one who's poo stinks because his gut is reacting against the foreign substance in his body
The one who has many more, and much more serious infections throughout his life."

Yeah Jenn, I agree, you took the words right out of my mouth, this is a crock of shit! Yes it is known that breast milk helps against these things, but they still happen.

Have you breast fed Becky? Because it would be extremely funny if you did not.

Sherri - posted on 02/01/2011

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Also I never bf my 1 st. Only bf my 2nd for 14 wks which was way more than enough for me and only 4 wks for my 3rd. Breastfeeding wasn't for me. I don't believe in using someone elses breastmilk and would never use donated milk so all my kids were happily formula fed. As far as the overweight thing ya try telling my 78lb 12 yr old who is only 25 percentile for weight but 45 percentile for height.

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I just cannot make it through all these pages...fuck me...a circumsicion and breastfeeding debate within a couple of days of eachother...who has the energy? LOL.

It is not necessary to use formula if you can breastfeed....but it is the choice of the mother who has to do it. Both are alot of work, and I don't feel that if you FF you should need an "excuse". To me that is rude. It is a decision that mothers make everyday. Just like you make decisions about your children everday, if you would llike to run all of your decision making past me so I can help you...just let me know. If you don't want my input...don't stick your nose into other peoples decisions...and say they are excuses for not doing it like you would. Mostlikley you would get pretty damned pissed if I went into your cupboards and fridge and told you that all of your nourishment for your family is "junk" especially if you as your families mother felt like you made healthy decisions.

Lady Heather - posted on 02/01/2011

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I was breastfed and never had a drop of formula in my life. I'm still allergic to everything, got strep throat once a year as kid, have UTIs 2-3 times a year, have epilepsy, fibromyalgia, migraines, a heart murmur that causes me grief, anxiety issues...I guess the point is that you can't save everyone with breastmilk. My mum likes to remind me that lots of perfectly healthy and clever people were formula fed. She and her sisters were because it was the thing to do at the time. They are all incredibly intelligent - my mum is just finishing up her PhD in neuropsychology. She's a fit and trim 53. Wish I could be that way.

Boob milk isn't going to solve all our problems. I'd rather breastfeed for sure, but I don't believe all the hype. My daughter is not going to be an idiot. She's already well above average in language comprehension and problem solving. My guess is she'll be as smart as her parents, and that's pretty good. Hehe.

Sherri - posted on 02/01/2011

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Yes for parents that work or simply don't want to then it is necessary.

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I'm not saying breastfeeding doesn't boost a child's immune system, because I firmly believe it does. It's a fact that it does. But I also know several FF babies, including my own (including ME) who rarely get sick. My son's 3 and has been sick (sick enough to take to the doctor) 3 times in his life. And the first time, he wasn't really "sick", he was teething and I was new at being a mom. One of my good friends was pregnant at the same time as me. Our kids are a month apart in age. She breastfed for the first year of her daughter's life and her daughter is constantly sick with colds and sniffles, etc.

I believe that the immune benefits that come from breastmilk don't necessarily make a BF child have a better immune system for life, compared to a FF child. It just gives them the boost at birth, to help prevent a lot of diseases that used to kill newborns. I think that as children get older, their diet plays more of a role in their immune systems than whether they were BF or FF. Like I said, my FF son is rarely sick. I give him carrots, apples, oranges, healthy snacks. He's never met a vegetable he didn't love. Now, if I fed him twinkines and yoohoo all day, he probably wouldn't be so healthy (illness wise or weight wise).

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I was only breastfed for 6 weeks, then my mom had to go back to work and I was put on formula. I have an IQ of 140 :) My daughters are also advanced for their ages (even the speech pathologist at my pediatrician's office was impressed with my kids' vocabularies!).



Also, I forgot this in my earlier post, but the idea that breastfed kids get sick less is ridiculous. My kids are all very heathy and they are all formula fed (even my stepdaughter - her mother didnt even try to breastfeed, she went on the formula straight away at the hospital). My oldest has asthma, but that's from the smog in the air where she lived for the first year of her life. All my kids have allergies, but so do I, so does my hubby, and all their grandparents as well. My niece and nephew, on the other hand, were both breastfed exclusively (no formula at all) and they both get sick all the time. I can't tell you how many times I log on to FB and see my sister post "Taking care of a sick baby. Jenna's not feeling well either :( " That was her post today, and going back through her posts her kids are sick at least once or twice a month. Mine get sick maybe 2-3 times a year and it's never really bad.

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LOL@Joy,
I too have an IQ of 142!! And was formula fed in 73' and put on pablum at 2 months and cows milk at 6 months!!

Besides studies have recently come out that state not all bf babies will have a higher IQ, only the ones that carry a specific gene that is "turned" by breastmilk. And even then, the average difference is all of 6 points, AVERAGE.

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Hey Becky - I have a great idea. How about there's a government agency that controls all the food we eat. We can all get rationed so we don't overeat and we'd all be forcefed our 5-10 a day or starve. There'd be no junk food because that's not medically necessary. Oh hey - you burned the dinner tonight and are now short a meal? That's cool. Just make an appointment with your local food adminstration board and answer some questions and possibly fill out a form and then take your food slip to another building and stand in a line and someone there will make sure you get some more food. We'd be sooooo healthy!

I know everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when your opinion is that it's okay for a baby to go hungry sometimes due to an inconvenient food source, then your opinion just plain sucks. That is the inevitable result of prescription formula. I like to think I'm pretty organized but even I forgot to take a can a formula with me a few times (and given the buses here sometimes it would take two hours to go back and get some). Thank goodness I could just pick some up at the store.

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Honestly, breastfeeding was in NO WAY relaxing for me. It was painful and depressing (because I felt like a failure as a mom and as a woman). I was WAY more relaxed when I came to terms with not being able to breastfeed and switched to formula - and I noticed a difference in my baby as well. SHE was more relaxd while eating too.

Also, for me it would only be relaxing if I only had that one child. I have 3 kids and I really didn't have a lot of time to stop everything and feed on demand (of course I did, but if I was super busy I was able to ask my oldest to feed her sisters - which she loved, the babies loved and took stress off me). My middle daughter was only 16 months old when my youngest was born and it was very stressful to have a 16 month-old getting upset because I couldn't help her RIGHT NOW while I was feeding the baby, and her getting upset was upsetting the baby, which made the baby eat slower (and therefore take longer), and the cycle went on and on. I loved having the ability to ask someone else to feed the baby so I could help my other children, or make dinner, or change a poopy diaper, or a whole slew of other things that come up when you have multiple children.

To me, to suggest that I would need a prescription to do what I felt was best for my children is not only demeaning, but downright laughable. Do I need a prescription for solid foods next? Will I only be able to buy "doctor certified" foods for my toddlers? That's a ridiculous notion that is really (IMHO) more funny than anything... Let me guess, Becky, you had NO problems with breastfeeding and you have great insurance and a supportive doctor who will see you right away. I bet you also have a pharmacy within 10 minutes away from you, oh and it might even be open 24/7 (although I don't know of any that are). Because honestly, if you don't have ALL of those things, then the idea of furmula by prescription only is just not gonna fly. What would I do if my baby was hungry and needed more formula at 2 am? Without a prescription I can run to Wal-Mart (open 24 hours) and grab a can. With a prescription required, I can guarantee there would be WAY more shaken baby deaths and mommies claiming insanity from the screaming of a hungry baby (not to mention moms who's PPD would be 1000X worse from not being able to feed their child).

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"Something I really enjoyed about breast feeding was the opportunity to just sit still, relax, collect my thoughts and enjoy my baby."

You can do that with formula and a bottle too! Just sayin...

Ok, I'm jumping in on this really late because I missed it yesterday -- not sure how THAT happened....I'm like a hawk! Anyhow....breastfeed....bottle feed, whatever floats your boat. I breastfed exclusively until Roxanne started solids and I'm a huge advocate, BUT, I refuse to berate women and make them feel badly for their choices.

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Something I really enjoyed about breast feeding was the opportunity to just sit still, relax, collect my thoughts and enjoy my baby. To me it wasn't a hassle, it was a much needed break from everything else I had to keep up with and I loved every minute of it. Im not saying it was easy, it wasn't at all. The first week my nipples were raw, scabbed and bloody among other issues and he lost weight- latch probs. The pain was horrendous and I had to supplement with formula at times. Someone mentioned to "pick one and stick to it" with either bf or ff bc it confuses them. That may be true in some cases but not all. Mine had no probs having both so it isn't all black and white.

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That's okay....next time Molly wakes me up at 4am to pee, I'm calling Kati, and SHE can sing it with Molly....

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I'm really hating you right now Krista!!!

"It's the Mickey Mouse clubhouse, come inside. It's fun inside..."

Rosie - posted on 02/01/2011

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i agree jenn, HUGE CROCK.

especially with studies that prove your child has a higher rate of dying FROM INJURIES, falling off a table, whatever, are THE studies used to justify the great and powerful breastmilk. give me real science that isn't clouded by CRAP, and i might believe that. pretty much every study done on breastfeeding doesn't take into account factors that could skew the answers, such as financial well being, or co-sleeping, smoking, obesity. http://www.stats.org/stories/breast_feed...

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@Mary-please don't group me in with her. Breast feeding came very easily for me. No probs at all until I had to go back to work and pump. I know it's sooo hard for some people and have total empathy. I also know people who didn't even want to try and that is their choice. Kids are happy, healthy and not at all overweight.

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