Liquor sales on Christmas?

Katherine - posted on 11/11/2010 ( 82 moms have responded )

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Michigan's wonderful governor just passed a bill saying liquor stores can now sell at 7am on Sunday's and on Christmas Day. They have to pay $160 to do this, but what do you think?
The no liqour law on Christmas has been in effect for so long it's almost sacred.
I'm recovering, so to me my first thought is, GREAT give the alcoholics MORE opportunity on Sunday. Only a 5 hour window now. I remember how long I had to wait. If I was still using this would be heaven.
Not to mention: Why not just leave it be?

http://www.detnews.com/article/20101110/...

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Johnny - posted on 11/11/2010

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Not everyone drinks to get drunk. Many people enjoy a glass of wine or two at a dinner. We often decide at the last minute to have friends for dinner, why should I not be able to pick up some wine simply because it is a Sunday? We are not Christians and don't follow the Sabbath.



Last Sunday we took our daughter to the park to meet up with a couple of our friends and their kids for some play time. We decided that we'd all like to get together for dinner that evening. I made dinner, my girlfriend baked a pie, and our other girlfriend went to pick up a bottle of wine. The six of us adults had a nice quiet evening and our kids all played. Shockingly, we all remember the entire thing.



This makes me think of the debate over banning certain foods or banning toys in Happy Meals. It is legislating for the lowest common denominator. Responsible citizens are asked to give up their freedoms because irresponsible people abuse them.

LaCi - posted on 11/12/2010

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"I cant believe some countries sell alcohol in supermarkets with all the other groceries and at general 7-11 type stores , that blows my mind !"

Our grocery stores sell everything, but they aren't allowed to sell it refrigerated. I have absolutely no idea why that matters. Out gas stations can sell beer, unrefrigerated, and cold fruity grossness if they're licensed. Only liquor stores can sell cold beer though.



To the person who said "christmas should be spent with family not booze" or something along those lines, has it ever occurred to you that not everyone gives a fuck about christmas, and not everyone gives a fuck about or has family to spend it with?

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Sherri, you're WAY off topic and I find it offensive, rude and unecessary, which is why I started you your own thread. Go check it out! "Do you have a potty mouth?"

Jenn - posted on 11/11/2010

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@Becky - it's a nice thought, bit first of all not everyone celebrates Christmas, and secondly, some people have to work: Doctors, Police, Ambulance, Fire, etc. Other stores are open like some convenience stores anyway.

Charlie - posted on 11/11/2010

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I cant believe some countries sell alcohol in supermarkets with all the other groceries and at general 7-11 type stores , that blows my mind !

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Katherine - posted on 11/14/2010

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Oh yeah shops have to be open on Sunday's. That would be nuts! Speaking of which a small part of me kind of remembers that a lot of shops did used to close on Sundays. A loooong time ago though. I would be in trouble if it happened now.

Mary - posted on 11/14/2010

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Laci, when I was married to my ex, I used to request to work the holiday if it was one that was supposed to be spent with his family (I had 3 horrid SIL's, and an obnoxious, alcoholic FIL). Christmas was more merry for me if I was getting paid time and a half to at least be around people I LIKED, even if it was at work! The half the work part was a crap shoot - no way to predict when people would go into labor, and we had minimal staffing no matter what came through the door. Didn't matter - it was still better than a holiday spent with that group!

LaCi - posted on 11/14/2010

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I actually enjoyed working holidays. I enjoyed doublepay for half the work.

Desiree - posted on 11/14/2010

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BAD IDEA!! At least to me never mind that it wouldn't actually matter if they couldn't get it on a Sunday or Public Holiday they just stock up the day before. People will drink whether it is readily available or not. I personaly think it asking for more trouble than it's worth. More Horrid people making pests of themselves almost getting themselves killed never mind the amount of innocent people who get killed because of people with no ability to know when to stop. (I lost a sister to a drunk driver at 23) This is a personal thing for me but not everyone feels the same. (This ban was lifted in South Africa a year ago)

Johnny - posted on 11/14/2010

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Sunday is not "family time" for everyone. Lots of people work that day for many reasons, like nurses, food service workers, etc. My neighbor works as a phone installer, and Sunday is his busiest day because the people working the rest of the week are home to open their doors. Many people, like Dana mention, use Sundays for housework or to get their shopping done. Around here, we wouldn't eat or have clothes if I only had one day to get all my shopping crammed in along with every other working person in my city. I could only imagine the line-ups at the mall and grocery store if they were only open Monday to Saturday and not Sundays too. It would be great for people who don't work, or those that are fortunate enough to be a SAHM. For anyone who is working though, Sunday closings would be a nightmare of stress. We don't live like the 1950's anymore.

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OMG! Shops HAVE to be open on Sundays, Nikki! What about the peeps who work the rest of the week and need to run errands? I do understand what your saying but what if "family time" is spent building a treehouse in the backyard or cleaning out the garage and you forgot some supplies but everything is closed?

Haha, the only reason I say this is because it's EXACTLY what happened to us. If the shops weren't open today we'd be screwed. Chad forgot to grab the shelving units so we can get the rest of the stuff up off the ground in the garage so he can park his car in there. Right now he's working 6 days a week, 12 hours a day.

If I'm coming across strong it's not my intention. I'm laughing at myself because I probably seem like a nut even saying anything. This isn't really a passion of mine. ;)

Nikki - posted on 11/14/2010

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Slightly off topic but I don't think shops should be open on Sunday's at all! I remember when they weren't where I live years ago. Sunday was for spending time with your family and friends, not for shopping, and hey we survived, at times we had to borrow something we forgot in the shopping from the neighbours but it was nice. I sound so old right now!

Krista - posted on 11/13/2010

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I don't think the liquor stores should be open on xmas, mainly because I would feel bad for people having to work that day, not due to any religious considerations.

Sundays? Sure, open the store up. Why not? We do it here, and the sky hasn't fallen. Some people here got so wound up about ANY form of Sunday shopping. I figure, if they think shopping on Sunday is so awful, nobody is forcing them into the stores. But why don't they mind their own damn business and let those of us who do NOT observe a sabbath go get our errands done?

Katherine - posted on 11/12/2010

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and.....it's now7am on Sundays in MI and on Christmas and all other Holidays.

Sharon - posted on 11/12/2010

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Ok from 6 am to 2am Mon - Sun I can purchase liquor. WHHOOO HOOO!!! Its 8.44pm right now, its still legal... I just don't feel like moving my ass eh, it can wait till tomorrow morning, I'll really feel like a rebel then!!! Breaking the laws of so many other states!! YEEEHAAAWWWW!!!

Sharon - posted on 11/12/2010

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lmao this damn post - now I have to look AZ liqour sales laws so that I never get broadsided in my liqour purchase at 8am on a sunday morning, rotfl... no seriously, I need to know...

Katherine - posted on 11/12/2010

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Yes, they will. Just saying though.....when I ran out of my 12 pack on Christmas that I THOUGHT was enough, I couldn't go buy more!!!! Now I could.

Kate CP - posted on 11/12/2010

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Ahhh, blue laws. In some states blue laws go so far as to limit other household items you can buy on a Sunday (since it's supposed to be a day of rest). Some cities state you cannot buy a rake, a shovel, or other lawn equipment on Sundays. Personally, I don't think blue laws inhibit or promote liquor usage. If a person wants to drink they'll drink; regardless of the date.

Charlie - posted on 11/12/2010

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Our liquer stores are called Bottle-O's , our bottle-O's are open everyday except xmas , remembrance day morning , and easter sunday i think .

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Having to go to a particular shop to buy alcohol is just alien to me! I recall going to a liquor store in Florida when I was younger and I thought it was wierd then so it's definately a cultural thing!

Leah - posted on 11/12/2010

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I had no idea that the liquor store wasn't open on Sundays...I wonder if its open on Sundays here in Ontario...anyone know? Lol its been so long since I've been to it (probably July...). We are not big drinkers in our family, my husband and I rarely have alcohol in our fridge with the exception of holidays. We do stock the fridge during Christmas but it would be nice if the LCBO was open on Christmas day in case in all your haste, you forget to buy wine! Doh! So no it doesn't bother me at all, if the owners of the store want to pay their employees double time and half to be there for a couple of hours, so be it, I'm not sure if it will pay off but who knows.
And Loureen, I know! Here in Canada, you can buy alcohol at either the LCBO or the Beer Store, NOT convenience stores or grocery stores! Isn't it crazy?

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Our supermarkets in the UK sell alcohol 24/7 except on sundays when shops can only open 4 hours. Pubs are open on Christmas day as most have Christmas dinners. However, shops aren't allowed to open on Christmas Day or Easter Sunday.

Sharon - posted on 11/12/2010

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Obviously language doesn't bother me. Seeing as religion is a personal thing, then so is the cussing and whether or not someone gives a shit about Christmas. If they aren't hugely religious - so what?

She suggested that not everyone gives a fuck about christmas. She didn't state "fuck christmas". Which would be a way to show disrespect.

Krista - posted on 11/12/2010

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Sherri...........just out of curiousity.... did you know that Christmas is largely based upon a pagan traditional and not so much based on Jesus Christ?

Rosie - posted on 11/12/2010

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why is it bad behavior sherri? cause someone told you is was? well, i say the world is flat, we're all dying in 2012, and your house in pink. just cause someone says it, doesn't mean it's actually true. i never heard jesus say anything about the "F" word. people like to make shit up to match their agenda. deal with it, people are different than you. it's a big world out there-might want to acknowledge that sometime.

Sherri - posted on 11/12/2010

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Using the F word when it comes to Christmas is the HUGEST slap in my face. I take my religion seriously and to simply disregard it like that is an insult, and Yes using such words when it comes to Christmas is as bad as spitting on anothers religion. It was hurtful and uncalled for. I would never do that to someone else but I guess it is acceptable to just ignore someone elses bad behavior, instead of standing up and saying the right thing.

Rosie - posted on 11/12/2010

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why is it unnecessary? why is it so offensive? just cause someone said it is, so you are programmed to think it is. it doesn't hurt you in any way shape or form. try worrying about someone actually hurting you, instead of made up reactions to certain words.

Sherri - posted on 11/12/2010

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Because it is extremely offensive and entirely unnecessary!! What no one can have a conversation without it?

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Sherri, why does the "inappropriate language" bother you so much? This is the second thread you've mentioned it in...

Jessica - posted on 11/12/2010

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"I couldn't imagine having to go to a special store to buy my booze."

That's how it is here (in Pennsylvania) and its really annoying. Separate stores for booze and beer, and you can't get either in regular supermarkets (except for one which has recently started selling beer in 6 packs or less).

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I don't see what difference the day makes. We can purchase booze on all days of the year (provided there is a store open), I can see no issue if the store wants to open on Christmas and can find staff willing to work (due to Christmas and Easter being religious holidays people cannot be forced to work them in the UK). I think most shops that don't open on Sunday now are missing a trick and losing out on revenue, because the majority of stores open on Sunday here (following Sunday trading laws).

Loureen you can buy ALL your alcohol needs here at supermarkets and anywhere with an off licence. I couldn't imagine having to go to a special store to buy my booze.

Jessica - posted on 11/12/2010

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I say why not?? I guess it would suck for the person who had to work on Christmas though. Here liquor stores are open on Sundays, not at 7 am I don't think but who needs to buy booze at 7 am lol. All I know is last year on my birthday (Dec 22) I went to try and buy a couple bottles of stuff to celebrate later, and there was a line to the back of the store because people were stocking up for the holiday. I was annoyed.

Mary - posted on 11/12/2010

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Dana, and Sherri, don't move to MD! You can only purchase alcohol at liquor stores. None of our grocery stores or convenience stores sell any type of alcoholic beverage. The only exception is in Ocean City (resort town).

It's fascinating how this varies so widely from state to state. I went to college in Delaware...again, alcohol was only available at liquor stores, and you had to be 21 just to ENTER the store. According to friends that grew up there, many stores didn't even allow children who were simply accompanying mom as she did errands to enter the store. Now, this was a college town, so perhaps they weren't as strict elsewhere, but unless you were 21, you couldn't even cross that threshold to buy anything, alcoholic or not.

My favorite is still the Outer Banks, and those Brew Threws. I just love the concept of Driving into that place, telling them what I want, and having the guy load it into my car, all without ever even turning off the ignition! I really wish MD had that!

Johnny - posted on 11/11/2010

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You don't have private liquor stores in Ontario? I thought they'd spread everywhere. I'm kind of happy to hear that. The government liquor stores are closed on all major holidays of course, but the private liquor store near us is open 8 am - 11 pm 365 days a year.

Isobel - posted on 11/11/2010

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ahhhh, NH the live free or die state...nothing's illegal there ;P

so long as they're not handing out toys to go with the liquor I'm good ;P

and yes, I'm in Ontario too, so the government sells our liquor and beer...we'll never see booze on Christmas day

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My brother used to volunteer to work on Christmas for holiday pay. We're Jewish, so yeah, Christmas is just another day. My brother is a mailman, and ya want to make a kid happy on Christmas Day form a mailman at the door with that last minute overnight express package? Now, my husband is also a mailman, but he won't give up Christmas. We do try to make some kind of duel holiday for our son. But in all honesty, back to the original topic of booze....no one in our main circle are big drinkers anyway.

Stifler's - posted on 11/11/2010

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I always nominated to work Christmas day, double and a half meant like nearly 3 days pay for one day's work and half the residents went to Christmas lunch with their family anyway so it was more like half a days work.

Jenny - posted on 11/11/2010

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If I have to spend the whole day with my family, I'm gonna need some liquor. Thankfully, our local beer store is open on that day.

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