my immune system sucks

Rosie - posted on 02/28/2011 ( 39 moms have responded )

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so this year i have been sick pretty much all the time. i got sick in the beginning of november, two weeks later i got influenza, about two weeks after getting over that i got the stomach bug, was fine all of january then i got bronchitis middle of feb. and i've been starting to feel ill off and on again recently. can anybody give me tips on what to do to try to stay healthy? i've had enough, and i'm going mad. i don't think i can take anymore of this. thank you!! :)

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Tara - posted on 03/01/2011

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I would start by asking to have your iron levels checked and as well I would have blood work done to test you thyroid for any changes. Having low iron stores can lead to a host of problems. Many women walk around border line anemic and don't know it. They are tired, feel run down, suffer from more colds, flu and other communicable illnesses. I had a winter when no matter how much sleep I got, no matter how well I ate and exercise, no matter how well I cared for myself I seemed to get every little thing and everything big thing going around. I had a routine check up and had blood work done, found out I had next to no stored iron. After 3 months of intense iron replacement therapy (through a liquid form that is easy on your digestive system) I felt better than I had in over a year.
Good Luck and I hope you get better in time for the nice weather!

Iridescent - posted on 02/28/2011

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The only people that cannot handle the gluten are those with Gluten Intolerance. The genetic marker has been found for 99.5% of those, so if you think you have it, get checked. That means only 1 case in 200 is missed. If you have the genetic marker, you have a CHANCE of developing Celiac Enteropathy - it does not mean you will. To determine if you have Celiac Enteropathy, there are blood antibody tests (not fully accurate) and colonoscopy with biopsy (exceptionally accurate while eating gluten). Otherwise, that statement about gluten above is called misinformation.

Kate CP - posted on 02/28/2011

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Oh yea? My immune system sucks worse than your's! I was hospitalized for a UTI recently. :P



Sorry, my bit of bitching for the day there. Anyway...I stay not as sick (don't get colds and the like) by not touching doorknobs, not shaking hands as often, and doing self checkout at the stores. By doing those things I limit how exposed I am to infection. Good luck...it sucks to be sick. :/

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probiotics are awesome.

those yogurt commercials lie, the sugar in yogurt outweighs the benefit of the probiotics in them. A pure plan yogurt is the best place to get it, but milk hinders your immune system so its a win lose.. the pill form, i take everyday.

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Tara - posted on 03/04/2011

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Sometimes the iron in a multi vitamin is not enough, partly because multi vitamins also contain calcium which acts against the iron in your blood stream. It is best to take iron with Vitamin C and to avoid dairy for the hour before and the hour after consuming your iron.
I take Floridix http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/us...
I mix it with orange juice and add ice, it doesn't taste bad at all that way and it was the only thing I could tolerate while pregnant. I went from being completely iron deficient (close to needing a transfusion) to having adequate stores within 2 months. I still take it if I feel like I am running down or feeling extra tired and lethargic.
Apparently most women are borderline anemic and function at the minimum for iron stores.
It does make a huge difference in your over all health and immune health. As well, high doses of vit d have recently been linked to a healthy immune system, zinc too!!
Hope you feel better.
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Jenn - posted on 03/02/2011

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Julianne - do you have any links with info regarding the gluten issue? Or about the whole wheat? I can't seem to find anything and am interesting in reading about it. From what I've read and found, the only thing that is added to whole wheat flour is some salt to act as a preservative - but it's a trace amount. And also info about it being bred to have high gluten - since it's not that high. I can tell I have already annoyed you by your "ugh" response - but this is something I would truly like more info on if you have anything. I'm only going by what I know and have found myself, so if you have information to back up what you have said, I'd like to read more about it. Thanks. :)

Joanna - posted on 03/02/2011

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Seems like once you have kids you are sick 2 or 3 times more than usual. I was never sick until I had kids. Then trips to playgroup, mall, doctors offices... And then preschool came along. She started in September and has been sick 1-2 times a month since then. She was never sick as a baby, but she's bringing stuff home so that we are all, even my 4 month old, always sick. Plus my doctor said this year everythings been pretty severe cold/flu wise.

I just try to take my vitamins. My parents swear by taking Airborne, though.

Mrs. - posted on 03/01/2011

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Not if you are anemic. A similar thing happens with B12 anemia. If you find you are getting sick all the time, it never hurts to just get a general blood panel done. Tell them you just haven't felt right and have been sick a lot. The doc may offer to do it.

Mrs. - posted on 03/01/2011

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I too had the iron issue. It gets worse around my period. I was seriously anemic and didn't know it. It's good to get them checked as well. I've had a hard time finding an iron replacement therapy that I don't react to. I'm now taking what is essentially bovine haemoglobin and I can only take one dose every other day or I have a reaction. It has made a huge difference in my mood, energy and overall health.

Iridescent - posted on 03/01/2011

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Milk and gluten (and wheat, and corn) are completely unrelated issues. Yes, 75% of people are lactose intolerant, and only a small percentage of them even realize it. Cows milk is made for calves, not people. I've researched this issue to death and agree on that, as does our GI doctor. But it's not the same issue as gluten or wheat or corn. It's simply one species drinking a product from another species, intended for their offspring. It's really not compatible.

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ugh, not unable to digest gluten in general...high levels of gluten, like that in wheat. Whole wheat has preservatives and chemicals are added to it, and after centuries of being bred to have high gluten because it makes it light and fluffy, its no good. Its bred to the point its not even its original form anymore.

Everyone has a reaction to lactose in milk too...its not a select few, people don't notice these reactions because they are so use to it. Most people eat wheat and milk from birth. why not try giving both up for 7 days, then eat it, and see how it effects your body it will make you feel full of phlegm and nasty.



The original topic: astragalus may help you. It strenghtens your body against desease. Its an herb.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/astra...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/01/2011

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Ugh..I can feel it in my face that I am getting a cold...grrr...when my hiusband gets home, I am making a run to get sudaphed, e-mercency, soft tissues, and lots of cough drops.

Kim - posted on 03/01/2011

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I've had winters like that. I was soo run down. I was anemic. My Dr gave me some iron pills and i started feeling better. You could have that checked and your Vitamin D checked too. Sometimes one thing drags us down and everything else attacks us. I hope you feel better soon.

Amanda - posted on 03/01/2011

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Fresh food! Food is the best way to stay healthy!! Eat well, probiotics, lots of fruits and veggies. Also whenever your children enter the home have them wash their hands. Carry baby wipes in your purse to wash your hands while you are out. Do not over use Anti bacteria soaps or lotions or cleaners in your home (these are EXTREMELY counter productive as they kill good bacteria that keeps you healthy, and been a known cause of auto immune disorders).



If you are taking Vit C take it with some Vit D, as well as Iron, they all work well together, and help build up your body.

Jenn - posted on 03/01/2011

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I thought bleached, white, all-purpose flour was what was mainly used - for things like commercially prepared breads, cupcakes, pastries, etc. which is not high gluten - it's about 10%. I know that aside from having celiac (which my aunt has), you can have an intolerance, much like some people have lactose intolerance - but that's only a small percentage of the population. Why would other people not be able to digest gluten? I've never heard that and can't find anything to support that, nor have I heard of it creating mucous in the body. It's protein - how does a protein make mucous? And how is whole wheat overly processed? They take the grain and grind it up - voila - whole what flour.

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elderberry tea is an antiviral tea. its really tasty too, if your currently sick it will help you feel better.

Mrs. - posted on 02/28/2011

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Sorry to hear that. I've got life long auto immune issues too. If you want to go the natural route, I'd go to your local health food mecca, if you have one and ask the staff about finding a good nutrition person. The internet is great but it can't beat a real life person who can talk about all your medical stuff and suggest a plan. The first time I did this, I got a newer person and it was free. I didn't have to pay anything although it was in a Whole Foods type store and they'll take you around after, suggesting some products - no pressure to buy though in my case.

As well, I see an acupuncturist and TCM doc. This has help me the most with my immune issues. The first year I saw her, after years of illness, I had one cold - it was awesome.

As well, exercise. I know you feel like shit and don't want to after all the illness. This can help you cheat all those germs by kicking your bodies natural defences up to the max. Start slow and build up. Maybe just walking regular like and then move up to jogging. Setting a goal can help. My first year after baby I had a 5k race goal, this year I want to do the same 5k in under 30 minutes.

Hope you feel better.

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Not remove it completely, i eat gluten, but i dont eat wheat, its over processed and bred to the point its no longer healthy. It does no good for your body, even whole wheat. It causes health issues, it weakens your body.
I eat spelt, oatmeal, and other breads, i like to use ancient grains. They have a much better flavor.
Most corn is genetically modified, i dont like mutant food.

Iridescent - posted on 02/28/2011

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Corn is also indigestible for the most part. Does this mean corn needs to be completely removed from the diet? No. As a matter of fact, the bulk provided by the indigestible portions provides the fiber needed to keep your GI tract healthy. Same concept.

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High gluten flour is the main stuff used in north america, i got my numbers mixed up, it is 15-20%. Celiac decrease is when you cant digest gluten in general which is not what i said. Only certian people have this problem. High levels of gluten in the wheat around here is not digestible and it causes problems.Its not the gluten itself but the amount. Mainly it creates more mucus in the body and hinders your immune system.It also is a factor in the obesity problem here.

If one aspect of your body is stressed, it effects the whole. Usually its your immune system that suffers first. If your body is bombarded with too much of anything its going to cause a problem.

Jenn - posted on 02/28/2011

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That's what I thought Amy. And if it were 60% gluten - there would be 18 grams of protein per 1/4 cup of whole wheat flour - and it's not even close to that - more like 4 grams or 13%.

Iridescent - posted on 02/28/2011

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I'm with Kate! Our household's immunity is in the toilet. One kid can't make IgA, which means he catches every single GI and respiratory bug there is and it takes him forever with medications to fight it. I'm stressed so I catch everything the kids get. And our daughter is also immunocompromised, but in all the factors slightly vs just one. At least our son no longer fits the criteria for CVID!

When you go shopping, use the sani-wipes on the carts. Try not to touch anything others have touched. Wash produce or buy it peelable (banana, orange), and cook it. Try not to let your system get run down by lack of sleep or too much stress. Don't share food off the same plate, or silverware, even with family members - you have no idea how bad this is! Don't share drinks; no, my child may not drink out of my bottle of water. Don't put things in your mouth, like baby's pacifier or bottle. Your mouth isn't an extra hand. Wash your hands thoroughly, especially after using the bathroom and before eating, and make sure you use correct technique (water on, wash with soap, scrub under nails, 20 seconds absolute minimum, get paper towels from automatic dispenser or have some that were set up in advance, dry hands, turn off water using paper towels only, not your hands). Avoid touching doorknobs whenever you can. If you're somewhere people are likely to be sick, wear a facemask yourself.

Jenn - posted on 02/28/2011

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I mostly agree with Julianne - eat lots of fresh, healthy foods, drink plenty of water, and get lots of rest.

But I do have a question Julianne: what do you mean that "no one can handle the gluten in north american wheat, its 60% gluten, your body's busy protecting itself from it so your more likely to get sick, it also creates more mucus in your body."

Stifler's - posted on 02/28/2011

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I always take garlic, horseradish + c with fenugreek and marshmallow vitamins in winter apparently they improve your immunity to infections and crap. I don't know if they'd work if you had an immune deficiency though :S

Sharon - posted on 02/28/2011

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You guys with young kids, just starting school, are propbably going to see this more.

It happened to us and its happened to most people I know.

The good news is that for most you/us, we'll increase our immunity (or the kids will stop being so nasty) and you won't get as sick or as often.

We had two years with my oldest in Kindergarten and 1st grade where I thought we were just going to die.

While you're cashiering be REALLY careful of rubbing your eyes or scratching your nose. a hand sanitizing spray w/moisturizer.

And use lysol on your counter (the wipes are aswesome) whenever you can. Oh and the keyboard. We share our cash registers, 3 or 4 different people may be on a cash register in one day. ONE person with a virus... UGH! I unplug the keyboard and wipe to my hearts content.

Rosie - posted on 02/28/2011

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i wish i could avoid people, but i'm a cashier. i try to avoid them as much as possible though, lol. vinnie started going to school this year, he seems to be the reason for us getting sick all the damn time. he's never been exposed to alot of people before, so no time to build immunity to germs. gah, i feel like i'm going to go crazy here, and become one of those OCD people who constantly wash their hands and their kids hands and clean everything all the time.

Nikki - posted on 02/28/2011

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I feel for you, I spent years like that when I was working, I was constantly sick.

I don't know if it was because I worked with germy children or that I was so anal at sanitising everything? It's strange since I left work and I am too tired and really don't give a dam about sanitising everything thing and making sure the house is sparkling clean and I haven't been sick? I also have an autoimmune disease so I am really amazed that I have been so well.

I do take vitamins and I probably eat healthier now than when I was working because I have more time to cook.

Hope you feel better soon.

Rosie - posted on 02/28/2011

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i take probiotics (the good ones, the kind you refrigerate) everyday already. i need to start exercising again, sigh.

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eat as close to nature as possible, fresh fruits and veggies provide your body with lots of great enzymes to help your immune system do its job. Processed foods contain a lot of sugars and salts that hinder your immune system. I would stay away from most packaged foods as much as possible. I eat more garlic in the winter to protect my body from colds and flus. Several things are very detrimental to the immune system. Milk, creates mucus in the body which is an excellent breeding ground for bacterias, it also makes symptoms worse with the added mucus.Wheat, no one can handle the gluten in north american wheat, its 60% gluten, your body's busy protecting itself from it so your more likely to get sick, it also creates more mucus in your body. Too much sugar and salt. Your body only needs 28g of sugar, you can get that by eating fruit and veggies, any added sugar causes a stress on your body. I haven't been sick in atleast 6 years with the exception of a flu like reaction to the flu shot 2 years ago. gabby has never been sick in her life. My SO doesnt eat the way i do and he has been sick for about a month now, so its not like im not exposed to stuff.
Food should be our medicine, whatever we put into our body, thats what we get out. Bad foods=bad function, no matter how infrequent you eat bad foods, it has an effect on the over all function of your body. Enough restful sleep plays a huge factor. Eat a banana and some chamomile tea at bedtime to get a more restful sleep. Exercise is a big one. If your not getting exercise, the over all function of the body is compromised, regardless of what you eat.

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I agree with Julianne for the most part. Take a look at your diet, and make sure you are getting plenty of nutrition from your fruits and vegetables. I prefer raw, but I am gonna cook some broccoli and cauliflower tonight, cause otherwise it gives me massive gas! LOL.....stinky pew pew. But also, I do believe in taking vitamins. If you do not like that root, go for the E-mergency when you feel something coming on. It has really helped me quite a bit. I have been wicked sick all winter too...but haven't been sick since december....this is the first year of my kid going to school, so he was bringing home every sickness.

Probiotics, I am actually gonna go to the health food store and pick some up hopefully this week. I do eat yogurt with it, but I think my husband and I need more of the real good stuff.

Bonnie - posted on 02/28/2011

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The viruses are pretty bad in general this winter. Lots of vitamin c, lots of fluids, and as much rest as you can afford.

April - posted on 02/28/2011

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try taking as much vitamin C as you can. my son had an awful cold last week. i was bored and started mixing things during his nap. i blended carrots with oranges and yogurt. he loved it and the next day, his cold was MUCH weaker.



it sounds like this has mostly been a winter thing for you. i bet when Spring comes and you are outside more with your children, you'll feel much better!!

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