Natural Health Care.

Mother - posted on 03/01/2012 ( 174 moms have responded )

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What are your favourite natural health products?? Homeopathics?? Herbal remedies?? Or is it the therapies...chiropractic...acupuncture or massage?? Anything specific or you love them all??

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"Homeopathics are awesome. In response to them being nothing but sugar water and don't work. Tell that to all the babies who got relief from the teething tablets. I'm sure you'll convince them it was just a placebo effect. LOL"



Fine. Homepathic solutions are made like this (you can easily look it up if you doubt me.) Take an aspirin and dissolve it in a glass of water. Now pour that glass of water into a bathtub full of water. Now take that bathtup and pour it into a swimming pool. Now pour that into a lake. Stir. Take your same glass and fille it from that water. How much aspirin is in that glass? YOu'd be lucky to find even a molecule of it right?



That's what they do. They dilute solutions till you may not even find a single molecule of any active medicine and this is what they say actually does the job?



If you take the labels off a bunch of homeopathic bottles and take them to a homeopath and ask them to now idtentify each bottle, they can't do it. However if I grind up any prescription medications and take them to a pharmacist, they can tell me exactly which one is which.



I guarantee you, you could use the same dilution of belladonna instead of gripe water and get the same effect because you have **zero active properties of anything in each one.***

Isobel - posted on 03/04/2012

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I haven't read the responses yet BUT IMHO Homeopathy should be made illegal as it is absolutely NO different from the original snake oil salesman. There is NOTHING in homeopathic remedies. It makes me especially crazy that homeopathic "practitioners" are actually selling parents "vaccines" and encouraging parents to use them INSTEAD of real vaccines. I repeat, there is NOTHING but sugar and water in homeopathic remedies and any relief you get from these products are purely the placebo effect.







That being said, I actually would generally prefer a natural remedy (which is not what homeopathy is) before a traditional one for most minor ailments :)

Isobel - posted on 03/07/2012

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well...when you've seen a ton of people crash and burn, you'll want to give the new people advice about how this site has and will always run too :)

Isobel - posted on 03/07/2012

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if you don't want to debate you either specify NOT A DEBATE in the title, or you go to the group that all agrees with you.

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"Just because something can't be explained doesn't mean the technique is ineffective. There is no shame in saying we don't know. It just means, we don't know yet"



I'm quite comfortable accepting when we can't explain something however when a hypothesis is tested over and over and determined to have no merit yet people still believe it, that's hard for me to accept.

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Mother - posted on 03/13/2012

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WOW.....that seems expensive to me. I suppose tho, it is a technique some people haven't even heard of. I've heard people get amazing results.

Stifler's - posted on 03/12/2012

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I found a flier for some place here adn it was like 100 bucks for half an hour

Mother - posted on 03/12/2012

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My Polish friend use to get this done by her Grandmother. I was always jealous!! However I wasn't going all the way to Poland to get it done!!! :)

Isobel - posted on 03/12/2012

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yes it was calloidal silver. It was home made and not commercially sold calloidal silver, but that's like saying moonshine isn't really alcohol

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Whatever he took, colloidal silver DOES do this if taking to much for to long.

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/12/2012

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I have heard that once colloidal silver STARTS turning you blue, you will never turn back to your normal color.

Isobel - posted on 03/12/2012

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yeah, I knew he was making his own that wasn't a secret...kinda like a guy making his own liquor going blind. You do realize though, that that was an ad right? not exactly unbiased information.



That being said, it didn't scare me away, it was just proof that it did do SOMETHING

Mother - posted on 03/09/2012

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One would think when you noticed your skin turning, you would stop using the product for a bit. This happens with juicing as well. If you juice too many carrots over a period of time you'll turn orange. Just lay off the carrot juice for a bit and resume when the pigments exit your body. It isn't harmful, it just has high pigmentation.

Mother - posted on 03/08/2012

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I've never heard any warning but that picture is enough to scare anyone!! LOL

~♥Little Miss - posted on 03/08/2012

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I have heard so many warnings about colloidal silver, that I will never take it.

Minnie - posted on 03/08/2012

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The girls had ear infections in December, and along with the garlic oil I tried colloidal silver. Neither did diddly squat, all THREE of us ended up with double ear infections, and like I mentioned before, a sinus infection for me on top of all that as well.



I also used homeopathics, given to us by the vet, when the cats we had a long time ago were sick. It did -nothing-. Turns out they had bordatella and needed antibiotics.



I've tried a lot of natural healing remedies, especially over the course of the past recent months when we caught some monster virus, and my conclusion is that most 'natural' remedies just empty your bank account faster, and then you have to pay for the doctor visit anyways.



So I guess...I don't use any natural -remedies-. Nothing to cure an ailment that's already there. We drink milk kefir every day and that's supposed to be some very potent bacteria and yeast colonies. We exercise and eat a healthy diet.

Sally - posted on 03/07/2012

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I agree with you but here there is no way to check how long they have been practising etc and i can honestly say from all the friends i know that have tried it. I haven't heard anything good. Maybe if there was a way to check up on them etc we could pick the ones that know what their doing but i feel while its unlisenced it the uk , i can't trust it. Im sorry if this txt bit messy been up seen 2am been food shopping and waxing abit.

Mrs. - posted on 03/07/2012

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Well, my TCM doc, who does cupping as part of her practice, was also a western medical doc in China. She works now with the doctors in one of the best hospitals in Canada to provide the extra alternative care the chronic pain patients and cancer patients might need. You shouldn't discount an entire technique like cupping, because some people use it after a six week course. It is your responsibility as a patient to pick the best alternative medicine practitioners with the best training.



I mean a lot of the "herbal stuff" or cupping has been proven treatment for ages in both Eastern and Western medical communities.

Sally - posted on 03/07/2012

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Thank you, i will look it up and give it a try.

I have read all the posts for and against natural health care and would like to add my two pennies worth.

I was only 33 when i started the change and i tried natural remedies they were s..t. I was 39 when i gave in and when on HRT. It savedmy relationship. I was having really bad mood swings,the sweats from hell 24 hours. My partner was ready to walk cos he got scearmed for the slightest thing, my kids were ready to ring child-line and ask to be take cos they had a fruit cake for a mum. Thats my bit.

I know people that use natural remedies and they only make things worse. People don't know whats going in to things, just trust. Id be all for it if they had to past tests like .

Having said that i use a lot of stuff passed down through the family. Olive oil is so over-looked. Its great for cradle cap, dry skin and warm ,poured in ear sooths ear ache. Hotwater ,honey helps a chesty cough. Steam with methol great for croup and for breast feeding mums or those that don't want to. Fresh cold cabbabe leafs in your bra will relief pain if your engorgred.

For mums about teething, the only thing that works besides man-made is cuddles and lots of hard things to chew on. I was n my 20's when i cut my wisdom teeth . I was a dribbling wreak ,wanting to chew hard on things. Its uncontrolable.. Naturel rememdies have

been proven to be dangerous, why would you take the chance on something untested.



I don't know about other countries but i know in the UK anyone can set up selling herbal stuff doing cupping ,hot stones etc. All they got do is a six week course and then they can practise. How is that right. They should have to train like MDs. Then i might trust them.

Isobel - posted on 03/07/2012

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I think in the UK it's called a Luna cup? it's a rubber cup that is inserted inside and then emptied a few times a day. I have not had great luck with it...difficulty with inserting it properly so it won't leak, but I do intend to try again

Sally - posted on 03/07/2012

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Im going to sound completely stupid buts whats a diva cup. I have never heard about anything in the UK. Im assuming its to do with monthlys is so id love to know about it. I hate towels and since going through an early change tampax is painful, so please share.

Frances - posted on 03/07/2012

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Yes, I read a true story years ago about a man who regularly took colloidal silver. It turned his skin blue, but he was healthy.

Isobel - posted on 03/07/2012

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at least we know it does something...if you take too much youturn into a smurf

Joy - posted on 03/07/2012

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Thanks Laura. :)



Thanks Mother :)



I've used colloidal silver and it worked well. We also used Grape seed extract. My favourite was rescue remedy.

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Yes, I know it links to another forum but the page I linked isn't a discussion forum. Its' the actual negotiations for all paranormal claims (homeopathy included). I didn't have time to find the specific ones but they're on that or page 2.

Mother - posted on 03/07/2012

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Well Ladies....it is snuggle time with my gorgeous hubby. Gearing up for Criminal minds!! Nighty-night

Mother - posted on 03/07/2012

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"Mother Bacher, I'm sorry I brought a bunch of drama to your thread. I thought I was helping and it appears a lot of people came down on you for my whining. :)"



Ohhhhhhhhhh....hells bells. No more drama in this group then normal. LOL People coming down on me?? LOL I'm apparently the "minority" in most discussions anyways....so I'm told. What people think, doesn't phase me Joy. We're all good here!!!

Joy - posted on 03/07/2012

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Hi Laura. I'm sorry if I came off pissy. When I said [you], I didn't mean you specifically. I meant you [general you]. If I was going to be specific it would have been directed at Kate. As It appeared she was waiting for Mother to screw up her wording so she could change the direction of conversation or make it appear false.



So, I like your idea of labeling threads if they aren't to be a debate. That will be helpful for us new people. I'm sorry, please accept my apology. I really wasn't trying to center you out. And Mother Bacher, I'm sorry I brought a bunch of drama to your thread. I thought I was helping and it appears a lot of people came down on you for my whining. :)

Mother - posted on 03/07/2012

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I've never used it myself but my friend did use it on a belly button piercing that was just NASTY. All infected and gross.....cleared it up beautifully

Krista - posted on 03/07/2012

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I'm going for my first acupuncture session on the 14th -- I'll let you know how it goes.

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Ladies could we please get back onto the topic of natural health care. If this back and forth bickering continues the thread will be locked.



Thank you for your co-operation

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Mother - posted on 03/07/2012

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Woah is right. Leave the boards for awhile and look what happens!!



Joy, thanks for clarifying, I knew I had been clear but for whatever reason it was being scrutinized. No biggie. Happens here a lot when people don't agree with something.



Kate, Joy has a good point actually. And from what I saw, unless something has been deleted, she never attacked and called anyone a name. She also has a good point about the members and a definite 'pecking order' in this group. It is very obvious to new members but only escapes the ones who are actually at the top of the pecking order. Laura said it perfect....*I* have been here three years....blah blah blah....



Big whoop. I don't care if someone has been here 30 years, it doesn't make them anymore entitled then the next person.

so back to the topic at hand.....which BTW....isn't homeopathy but rather what our favourite therapies are...



Continue..

Kate CP - posted on 03/07/2012

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Woah. Okay.



Mother: I was genuinely confused by your reply which is why I asked you to clarify. I wasn't arguing semantics.



Joy: This *is* a debate board. Which means when a woman posts a topic here it's MEANT to be debated. Mother didn't ask for advice. Didn't say she needed help. She asked what natural/homeopathic remedies we liked. Some have answered that they don't use them and/or don't believe they work and a natural debate has evolved from there. No one has been personally attacked until you decided to pipe up with your argumentative comments about our replies.



Many women here will post a question and include NOT A DEBATE in the title so it DOESN'T turn into a debate. If you have a problem with that, start your own "debate" forum.



If you can't debate without making it personal, don't debate. No one is personally attacking any one else or calling names until you started up with the argumentative crap.



So, can we PLEASE get back onto topic of homeopathy?

Joy - posted on 03/07/2012

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A gist of how things work around here, this means that you change the rules for each 'new' person to suit your agenda, until they have at least been here for 3 years. Then maybe the 'rules' might apply to them as they do everyone else? Horseshit.



Lots of members have posted threads that were not debates and this one is no different.

Isobel - posted on 03/07/2012

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well...since I've been here for 3 years I've kinda got the gist of how it works.



And I AM helping people by keeping them away from these criminals.

Joy - posted on 03/07/2012

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The other threads didn't specify that. I'm sure an intelligent person can read the questions put forth and ascertain without difficulty what the poster wanted.

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