Newborns in public?

Merry - posted on 03/31/2011 ( 84 moms have responded )

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How soon do you think it's ok to take a newborn out into public? Do you let many people hold your newborn? Do you have strict hand washing demands before people touch them? What about playmates, with toddlers all around them?

Some moms are more laid back, anything goes, from day one, etcbut some moms are very particular in the early weeks and ask everyone to wash, and not touch the face, and ask about recent vaccines, and don't go into the stores, or churches, or playmates.



Do newborns need to be kept in more 'sterile' environments for a few weeks? Or should they be out and about exposed to the world right away?



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My daughter should be born early may, she will be born at home, and will be visiting the family doctor at a week old. Other then that I'm mostly debating if I want to do playdates with my regular friends and their kids for a while, and what age I should bring her to church. And when I will invite more extended family members over to visit.

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Carolyn - posted on 03/31/2011

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okay if im not mistaken, the way the breastmilk immunity works ( from what i have read is) the baby is exposed to germs, then exposes you to germs through buccal contact with your nipples, your body inturn creates antibodies and returns them to the baby via breastmilk.



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you are exposed to germs, build antibodies, and pass them on via breastmilk.



so. if you are not taking your baby out, you yourself arent going anywhere often , limiting exposure and creating antibodies to protect against what is currently going around than can make your child sick.



so i still dont see how being shut in - mom and baby, unless your leaving your new born home alone.. helps immunity.



someone also posted, the baby has all the moms antibodies at birth, and loses them over time , replacing them with their own. so same thing. how do you create anitbodies without exposure to germs ?

Minnie - posted on 03/31/2011

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Well...most babies are born in hospitals. And they are haaaaardly sterile. I should not worry if I had birthed a baby there.



As it is, I was toting my daughter around in a mei tai just a couple of days after her birth. Snuggled between my breasts no one was going to reach down in there ;).



But I didn't let people get touchy-feely with my girls. They had to wash first.

Tine - posted on 04/03/2011

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A great way to keep a newborn safe and happy in public is to put them in a sling. It means that overstimulation can be avoided, and invasive strangers have a much harder time getting to your baby to touch her / him. It also protects them from illnesses, especially if they are breastfeeding in there!

Lacye - posted on 03/31/2011

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I took my daughter to Wal-Mart the day we were let out of the hospital. I did it because we needed groceries, my husband doesn't drive, and it felt better for me to walk and that's what I wanted to do. I allowed people I didn't know to look but they didn't touch. The only people who put a hand on my daughter at that time was my immediate family, his family didn't even really get to hold her that much. I wouldn't say I was paranoid, but I was cautious. If we needed to go to town, we went. I don't see the big deal about keeping a child inside all the time. It's not realistic. They are eventually going to have to go outside sometime.

With all of that said, I'm going to tell you this story. I have a niece that had her daughter 4 months after I had my daughter. Lily (my baby) was healthy as a horse. She never got sick until she was 18 months old (her daddy came down with the flu and he brought it home on accident.) My niece's daughter however stayed sick even though she was kept at the house all the time. Her daughter had RSV when she was 3 months old and then again recently back in January. She has had more colds than I can count. So just because you keep your child at home doesn't mean the child is any less susceptible to illnesses.

Carolyn - posted on 03/31/2011

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Marina, how does someone gain immunity to things without being exposed to the germs and building antibodies ?

So i am curious how your baby would be more immune after being shut in for 6 weeks ?

also exposure doesnt always lead to getting sick either.

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Christan - posted on 04/04/2011

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I think that it depends on both the family and the baby. My son spent a week in the special care nursery after delivery so I was a little more cautions on bringing him out on the town. Although we did have many doctor appointments to go too and groceries to pick up, I avoided strolling the mall for the first month or so.

Candice - posted on 04/03/2011

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I was bebopping around town when my babe was about 5 days old. I wore her so she was on the boob the whole time with exception of the Well-baby visits. I got a lot of crap,but sunshine is great for babies. Plus she loved getting walked.The bumpiness of the bus made her sleepy too. There's no way in hell that I would let some random person hold my kid. I let very few people hold her for a while.

Cyndel - posted on 04/03/2011

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I will bring baby out in public as soon as I feel up to it (I'm due in May with second baby). I probably will be careful who holds baby at church, and we don't do nurseries even at church until child is around preschool age.
The only thing I'll be really strict about is no kids under 7 or so can hold baby (except my son), most kids I know know not to cough in baby's face at that age, and if your sick...but most adults are respectful enough to not even ask if they or their children are sick.

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When i had my first ( my only right now) and she was born i was very careful, hand sanitizer all the time! I thinka t 2 or 3 weeks we took her out for the first time to the grocery store and i had her all wrapped up and covered. To me they are so little for the outside world even being at home is so new and big to them! I guess its not really dangerous to take them out and about its all up to what you are comfortable with but i think once they hit the one month mark you shouldnt be scared or people to touch your baby or hold them or whatever as far as toddlers playing with them i think only when you are holding the baby cuz they are hyper and dont know any better. i had everyone clean their hands before touching my baby but now im pretty laid back when it comes to certain things.

Merry - posted on 04/01/2011

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Yeah I'm planning on Fierna living in the sling for a while :) we don't have an infant carseat, she will go straight into the convertible type one so everywhere we go I will be holding her in the sling. I hate the carseat carriers, I think babies should be held alot but I know I got lazy with Eric and carried in the seat sometimes so this time I have no chance to do it! Besides, who can carry that darn seat and handle a toddler too! The sling will free up my hands and be alot lighter then the seat.

Tara - posted on 04/01/2011

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With my oldest three I took them out the day they came home from the hospital, even for just a walk around the block to meet the neighbours. I had really no recovery other than being tired and getting a little dizzy if I walked to fast.
My last 3 were born at home and I was outside that day or the early the next on the deck greeting friends and family etc. and they went out in public as soon as I was ready to go out in public. I used a ring sling and had them right up against my chest the whole time we were out when they were small, up to about 2-3 months. People could look but not many people would touch because they would have to invade my personal space to do so, essentially they would have to get pretty close to my burgeoning bosom. lol
It also kept small children from poking them in the eye with a snotty finger, lol. And it was easy enough to pull the fabric up and over their head if I happened to be near someone coughing etc.
I loved my sling, it made going out easy with my newborns. Especially once I also had toddlers and older ones in tow.

Amy - posted on 04/01/2011

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oh laura, my first was a c section, so after having a VBAC i felt like I could conquer the world! So, that's probably why I was out also. Kinda an "I am woman hear me roar...and do feel way better than after my first!" :) I even tore a bit but was just really out and at it. I'm hoping so bad this one goes even BETTER. I loathe hospitals. Wish I could have mine at home. Unless baby comes super fast, not likely to happen though. Congratulations..it's getting clooooooser. :)

Nikkole - posted on 04/01/2011

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With both my kids i took them out the day after i got out of the hospital to my husbands work to show them to his friends and office ladies and him to of course :) i take my kids EVERYWHERE with my (hubby works a lot) and they have a had a few colds nothing major. My sister in law on the other hand diddn't take her son Anywhere for the first few months (she did breastfeed till 1yr) and that kid is sooo sickly its not even funny hes Always got something. Im more laid back and im not terrified of germs we wash our hands and i clean the house but im not a fanatic about cleaning everything every day kids get germs its a fact of life!

Merry - posted on 04/01/2011

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Amy, we aren't a vaccinating family anyways, not til they are older at least. I stay home, breastfeed etc so I agree with you on the one year with mom! We did have one date when Eric was 11 months, but we left him with grandma and only for three hours! We just like our kids close and stuff.
I totally don't do the whole germaphobic stuff with bigger babies and toddlers. It's just when they are crest out of the womb I tend to be very picky about keeping them clean safe and healthy. I guess my rational of pickiness is that they should be exposed to as little as possible at first, and then gradually more and more exposure so it's not some huge shock at three days old! Draw it out, and keep the extra germy places for after a month or so.
Idk, I guess I'm more protective that way then most moms here, and maybe it's just unnecessary concerns, but I guess I'll hold out on the playdates as long as I can, but church I'll just put her in the moby and go as soon as I feel ready in the healing department! Not looking forward to that healing down stairs area... I remember it hurt, alot. At least I'll have a pretty little baby girl to look at through my pain!

Amy - posted on 04/01/2011

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I went grocery shopping with my whole family the day after I got home from the hospital [i was only there 24 hours at hospital]. Hey, we needed groceries and my husband was whipped. I felt fantastic!! But, was nursing and where momma goes, baby goes. We all went. My son stayed int he wrap right next to me and no one else was allowed to hold him.

The week after he was born was Easter. And, you know...I wore him most of that too. I nursed him and then put him in the moby wrap and rocked him a bit to sleep. Call me crazy, but his family is HUGE and I don't want to be looking around asking who has my child! I did have people wash their hands. Wasn't going to keep my 2 year old daughter away from my newborn son. Hey, siblings. Gonna have to get used to it. Even now my son - now 2 and 4 yr old daughter "play baby" with a doll. They're so excited about a new sister. Gives a chance for us to go over rules. Can't pick baby up, no toys for baby in crib..things like that. Learning process for all.

I don't worry about vaccines due to history of reaction - we don't do them. I don't let my child leave me - even in church. Baby's right with me. I need to nurse and can't see her cues if I'm not there. I had my son with me sitting through church - was luckily his nap time anyway - until he was about 10/12 months old. Plus..too little to be without momma until about a year --that's my rule for my family. When nursing, I just want them with me. Grandma's the only one [besides daddy] allowed to care for an infant besides me -and she's the only other one who can really get them to take a bottle.

I sometimes did feel bad "protecting" the baby when people ask to hold them. I just try and politely say, no, I just got her calmed down, I need this break. Some other time, though....


For your own comfort - if you're doing vaccines, some mothers prefer to wait until the first rounds of them to really get them out. Church..I did right away. Well, he was 3 wks. He was born on a sunday - yeah, missed it because I was in labor, then it was easter, then...we went. I had my nursing cover - nursed him right there no problems. :) I just would let people look at him, but not hold. Extended family....when you have energy to deal with that many people again! :) My husband's family is huge. I requested they all just see him at easter and they stayed away lol.

Veronique - posted on 04/01/2011

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I'm pretty much laid back when it comes to that. With both my daughter is went out in public when they were 3-4days old. When people came over i would impose that they wash there hands, some did by there own choice and some didn't. Of course if they were hacking away, i would let them hold my babies. As for other kids being around my newborn i just try and keep it to a very minimal amount for the first 2 months.

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I wish I stayed home longer, we took our 2 year old to walmart at 8 days old to get him some stuff and while my husband was holding him a women who worked there walked up and rubbed his head. I freaked, I don't know if her hands were clean or not

Tinker1987 - posted on 04/01/2011

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Like if we have a cold.i wont go to someone's house, a friend just had a baby and i was sick and didnt want to go and visit and pass on any germs.But i dont stay indoors in fear of getting sick.

Corena - posted on 04/01/2011

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I was not aware this was even an issue. Wow. I am definitely not a mother who is super worried about my kids being exposed to stuff. I guess I believe that is necessary for them to develop strong immune systems.
My little one was in the hospital for about 5 days, mostly because I got very sick after his birth. Once we were out though, he went everywhere with us. The only time we limit exposure is when we know someone has something contagious.

Merry - posted on 04/01/2011

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Older kids I think are just part of the initial exposure, just like dad and the familypets. I see no big deal with having my son around the baby, she will be exposed to him just as she is to everything else in outhouse right away.
I also don't see the point in breathing a sigh of relief when the baby gets the first vaccines, the first round is barely any protection anyways, the later doses are the ones that finally give protection, so honestly, vaccines or not the baby is still susceptible to all those childhood illnesses until the shots are completed.

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I think my son was about 2 weeks old before we took him out with us. This wasn't paranoia of him being exposed to germs though. This was that for the first two weeks after having him, I was so in awe and in love with him that all I wanted to do (and all I did do) was love on him, stare at him, talk to him, touch him, get to know every inch of him. I wanted him all to myself (just myself and my husband) and so that's what I did. Then at around 2 weeks, we started taking him everywhere and showing him off. I was picky about people washing their hands before touching him or holding him but that was more of an "I don't know where your hands have been" thing. I've never been one to shelter him from germs. It made no sense to me to be so paranoid about germs, when I knew the day would come and he'd be happily eating his apple off the floor. Germ exposure makes for a good immune system. I can count on one hand how many times my 3 and a half year old has been sick in his life. Not that I ever intentionally took him around someone I knew was sick. But if we went to a friend's house and someone was sick, we'd just limit his exposure to that person.

Bronwyn - posted on 04/01/2011

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I started taking my son out after a few days of staying home and and getting settled in. When my son was a week old, a man in the post office thought it was his place to tell me that my baby shouldn't be out of the house at all. That's feasible...

Becky - posted on 04/01/2011

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I'm fairly laid back about it as well. We were more protective with Cole, because he was a little early and tiny. We still took him out, but we limited who was allowed to hold him and we did ask people to wash their hands. We were in the hospital with him for 4 days after birth anyways, and they had a very strict visitors policy. His first time out was to his dr's appointment and then to visit my sister's family - and my parents, other sister and cousin - at 6 days old. A day or two later, we went to my parents to say goodbye to a friend who was going overseas, and somewhere in those first 2 weeks, I can't remember exactly how many days old he was, we went to a baby shower. When he was 9 days old, we took him to a wedding. We went to the mall after the ceremony to buy a wedding gift, but that was a short trip because I was still in a lot of pain, not because we were worried about the baby.
With our second, we were even more laid back. He was born on a Monday and the following Sunday, we were in church. Cole got croup when Zach was a month old, and that freaked me out more than anything. Fortunately, even though I caught the virus, Zach never even got a sniffle.
We let our neices and nephews etc. hold and play with them, but I wouldn't let other young kids hold them when they were newborns. Maybe if they were kids of really close friends, but just random acquaintances, no. Not so much because of germs, but because I don't know the kids well enough to trust them holding a newborn. And I don't let strangers hold my kids ever, anyways!

Tracey - posted on 04/01/2011

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Even if you stay at home for any length of time you are allowing air borne germs to enter every time you open the door or window, or on the clothes of your visitors.

I took my son shopping when he was 36 hours old, he was in a sling so no-one could touch him and he was perfectly healthy.

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Wow, I never really thought too hard about keeping my newborn "sterile" as such. I never let anyone hold her until after about a month though. Except my midwife who would come to my house every few weeks to check up on us. That and I did sort of avoid going out as much as possible. I don't think that there is such a worry about taking them out early on though. But I must admit, I would make people wash their hands if they have been outside or with an animal or something. Hm not much of an issue for me I guess.

Jodi - posted on 03/31/2011

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Doctors recommending a 6 week isolation? Wow, never heard of it. At 6 weeks, I took my son on a plane, and we all know what germs lurk on those things, LOL.

Erin - posted on 03/31/2011

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I think this definitely has a lot to do with climate and season. I had a big healthy summer baby. We spent 6 days in hospital because I was so unwell after her birth, so I figured there was no place I would take her that would be more germ-infested than that. Not to mention the fact I have never heard of an Australian doctor recommending the 6 week isolation.

I was out shopping with Milla when she was 9 days old. We went out of town for a wedding before she was 3 weeks. To be honest, it never occurred to me that I shouldn't. But I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this, only what you are comfortable with.

Casey - posted on 03/31/2011

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I'm usually not in a hurry to go out and about straight after I have a baby I think the first time I took my first child out in public was when he was about 2 weeks old and we went shopping and out for lunch and yes people are very full on when it comes to newborn babies and alot of people like to put their head right in the pram to have look which annoys the crap out of me so I usually throw a blanket over the pram or I put the sunshade over it and I just tell people it's sleeping. All of our friends and family know me well enough to know that they should never ever come to my house when they are sick with a cold or anything else lol cause if I get sick or my child gets sick they will know about it lol, I just think it's rude to visit someone when either your or your child are sick but so many people do it I have a "friend' who was very sick and so was her kid when I had my son and she came to the hospital to visit me 2 days after I had a c-section anyways she was shocked when the nurses asked her to leave but I wouldn't have even considered visiting if I were her.
I know it's not possible to keep a newborn in a sterile enviroment but with basic common sense you should be able to at least avoid certain things and places and people who are sick.

Johnny - posted on 03/31/2011

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I was pretty laid back about that. My daughter was born at full-term very healthy, so we were out right away. I never really isolated us or anything. She was born in August, so it's not exactly the height of flu season though. I didn't let random strangers touch her or pick her up (not that anyone tried), but I did not limit friends and family from doing so. Those who were not well had the common sense to stay away. If I have another child, I will approach things the same way as long as the baby is healthy and full-term.

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My 3 year-old was born 3 1/2 weeks early and was 2 days old at her baby shower. We took her and everyone passed her around (they did all wash their hands without me even having to ask though AND I knew everyone there). My sister's 3 year-old went to our brother's high school graduation when she was 3 days old. My sister said there was no way she was missing one of the biggest days in our brother's life. Everyone liked looking, but no strangers even tried to touch.

I'm a pretty laid back Mama, though :)

Jodi - posted on 03/31/2011

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I'm just curious, those of you who keep baby in a bubble for weeks, how would you handle it if you had other children? I mean, kids are the germiest creatures there are, and if they are school age, they are bringing home everyone else's germs.

With my oldest, I wasn't too worried. He was a spring baby and healthy as a horse. I took him into my work the first day out of hospital, and then we went shopping because our fridge broke down and we had to buy a new one.

With my daughter, she was in the SCN for 10 days in the hospital, so we were diligent about the hand washing, but honestly, she had 3 older siblings, all school age. We couldn't insulate her entirely, it would be ridiculous to believe we could.

Bonnie - posted on 03/31/2011

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"I'm going to sound like a bad parent here, but I never even asked anyone if they were vaccinated or any of that when they came to visit. I just didn't think of that."

Emma, I didn't think of it either or not necessarily that I didn't think of it, but it doesn't seem like anybody worries about that around here.

Carolyn - posted on 03/31/2011

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I have read , and just verified by a quick search, that some antibodies are absorbed into the bloodstream via the small intestine provided the baby has been exclusively breastfed, because introduction of anything else destroys the favorable conditions which is needed in the gut for this to be possible.

Rosie - posted on 03/31/2011

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ok, i want to say something about the breastmilk and antibodies thing. yes, you provide antibodies to your child through your breastmilk, but what your babies do with those antibodies is unknown. what we DO know, is that they do NOT get absorbed into the bloodstream of your child. they simply sit in the gut. giving loads of protection against diarrhea, and intestinal illnesses-but not much of anything else. there is NO evidence that if you get sick that your baby will automatically become immune to that particular illness because you breastfed. yes, you produce antibodies, and yes our child ingests them, but once again it does not get absorbed into the bloodstream of your child.

Charlie - posted on 03/31/2011

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People were more shocked I was out and walking around than the fact I had my boys at the kindergarden meeting my little students .

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My husband went back to work after a week so I had to do things, we have no family here I couldn't just stay home and not get groceries or pay rent.

Charlie - posted on 03/31/2011

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I had my first born out and about the next day , went to do the shopping , visit the kids at Kindy , paid bills .

I do ask to wash hands and I wasn't too keen on smokers holding them ( because I could smell the smoke on their clothes , hands and breath ) but other than that I was laid back and they are really healthy , rarely sick ect .

Kate CP - posted on 03/31/2011

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I deliberately exposed both my newborns to germs. Yes, you read that right. I have no immune system and I'm terrified that my kids will end up the same way. So I'm exposing them in small ways to germs. I took my son up to his father's office when he was a few weeks old. I let almost any body hold my daughter when she was first born. My kids were/are breastfed exclusively and are vaccinated. However, my babies were the first grand babies and were never exposed to other kids who are much more likely to carry something.

I wash hands, I encourage cleanliness, but I don't go nuts about germs. That's how you make a kid REALLY sick.

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I'm pretty laid back. At exactly one week old, my oldest went to church and my youngest went to the farmer's market. Yesterday the whole family, including the 2 week old, went to a busy restaurant (it was my birthday) and then to church. No one tried to get close the baby at the restaurant, but I let everyone at church hold her. Everyone washed their hands of their own accord. I didn't have to ask.

We took my oldest on a trip to the beach for a wedding when she was 2 weeks old. Took us 7 hours to make the 4 hour drive because she was nursing and I was recovering from a c-section. We stayed in a condo for three nights with that newborn. (This was the wedding of a VERY good friend.) I can't speak for my youngest daughter, because she's only 2 weeks old, but my oldest daughter is very healthy.

I think it's just what you are comfortable with. For me, I'm not going to completely stop my life. I'm going to add the baby into my life and keep going. Yes, life changes with a baby. But it doesn't have to stop. Unless that's what you want for your own peace of mind.

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I do really think a large factor has to be the time of year a child is born, and what type of outing we are talking about.



My daughter was born in late November, which is during the peak of flu and RSV season here. It is typically cold, so most outings with other people are indoors, with heated, recirculated air (thereby increasing the spread of airborne illnesses for all). While I am by no means a germaphobe, nor particularly paranoid, I also realized that on the off chance that she did get sick, and develop a fever, the standard treatment/diagnostic process in infants under 6 weeks involves a lumbar puncture. No way in hell did I want to risk that!



I think that her first trip out of the house was at just shy of a week old; we went to Target for about 45 minutes. A fairly quick in and out, with her in her car seat the entire time, and no strangers touching her or breathing in her face. By a week, she and I were outside almost every day for at least an hour to walk, with her sufficiently bundled. I did take her to run other errands, but I tried to do it at non-peak times, which was fairly simple, since I had no strict routine or pattern at that point. We avoided stores on the weekend, and it was no big deal to be at Target at 9pm on a Tuesday, or the grocery store at 7am on Thursday.



We did skip the yearly Xmas family party when she was 3 weeks old, much to my mother's dismay. It would have been a large group of people (and many snotty toddlers/small kids) in a hall, with everyone wanting to play pass the baby. We also opted not to drive 5 hours to see my husband's family, where again, a gazillion toddlers and school aged cousins, as well as every adult wanting to see and hold the new baby. Because we live so far, and visit so infrequently, neither my husband nor I had complete faith that all of his family who was sick (or had a sick kid) would refrain from converging on his parent's house to see the new baby, who would have only been 5 weeks old.



We did have plenty of people come to us...but honestly, my family and friends are very astute about knowing not to take risks with passing on stuff to a newborn, so I wasn't too worried about it. I was not a freak about the whole hand hygiene thing, either. TBH, I think most of my visitors were more uptight about it than I ever would have been. I'm not huge on the whole sterility thing....and hell, with two big dogs who have free roam of the house, nothing in here has a prayer of being sterile!



I guess we did okay; her first "illness" wasn't until she was over 10 months old. She got a bilateral ear infection from teething. That was the first time in her life she ran a fever. She's now a few months past her 2nd birthday, and despite being subjected to the toddler germ fest that all those Mommy-and-me classes are, she has had your run-of-the-mill toddler URI's, but has only needed antibiotics once more, again, for an ear infection. Is it her immune system, or all of the time sent outside walking the dogs, and being exposed to all the crap that life with animals brings...who knows?



***edit*** In the interest of full disclosure, she was breastfed for 13.5 months, and was not in daycare.

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I think there needs to be a balance, I took my newborn to the store with me and on errands etc, from day one. I did not let just anybody touch or hold him though. Just family and only if they werent sick. I did ask them to wash their hands but I wasnt paranoid over it. At just under a month I took my lil guy hiking on some flat paths out in the woods too.

Jenni - posted on 03/31/2011

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I don't really have anything constructive to add... this thread just reminds me of when I left the hospital with my daughter. My husband caught a nasty virus from the hospital I believe. It spread to me within 12 hours of getting home from the hospital. It spread to my 2 year old. Both my parents and both my husband's parents. Pretty much anyone we came into contact with. I was deathly ill my first night home and vomiting every 10-15 mins. On top of that my daughter still had her days and nights mixed up and thought it was party time all night. It was one nasty 24 hour bug.... the only one who didn't catch it was my new baby daughter... Luckily!

I mostly didn't leave the house for the first 6 weeks with both my children because I had two c-sections. The only time they were out is for doctors appt. My husband did the shopping and errands for the most part.

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I'm going to respond... then go back and read. All 3 of my kids went to church at 10 days old. The girls first BIG outing was to our Christmas Eve service (at a local hotel... open to the public... several hundred people kind of huge) at 11 days old. We stayed outside because of the volume of the music, but several people that I knew held them. I was on bedrest for 3 months before their birth, so even this massive homebody NEEDED to get out.

My son's first actual 'outing' (though not huge) was my women's Bible study when he was 8 days old. Not a large group and I had no problem w/ another woman or two taking a chance to hold him.

One of my friend's didn't take her kids out (except to doctor things... not even church, even though her husband is one of the pastor's) til 6 weeks old. I think that's a bit excessive, but she's a bit of a germaphobe and.... her kids, her business. I was just miffed cuz I wanted to SEE the kids. lol

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I'm going to sound like a bad parent here, but I never even asked anyone if they were vaccinated or any of that when they came to visit. I just didn't think of that.

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There is a huge difference with taking your child out in public and deliberatley exposing them to an illness, for the latter you KNOW you are introducing your baby to an illness for the first there is a very good likelihood you won't meet anyone with an illness. It is more likely your going to catch an illness at the doctors office than at the local library because that is where sick people go :-) Oh and I never said your kids lived in a bubble and neither did I incinuate it.

I have no idea what being pro-vax has to do with this either - I am pro-vax and still took my child out, even during the H1N1 epidemic (which he was born during).

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exactly Toni, your baby is probably less likely to catch a cold being in their stroller at the mall without being touched by strangers, than they are to catch it from dad coming home from the office.

Thats how Logan first got sick, Daddy brought us all home a present.

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Bringing a newborn into public during flu and cold season is doing exactly that Toni. No, my kids did not and do not live in a bubble. IMO bringning my own infants into public before 4-6 weeks old is just unnecessary. It gives them unlimited exposure to everything. Personally, I don't like that idea. In the winter with heating, no windows, it is just a breeding ground for infection. Even in the summer with air conditioning on in every place is a breeding ground. I just don't see the point. I also will not intentionally expose my kids to chicken pox to ":get it over with" like other mothers that I know. I would rather get the vax.

I am pro vaccination also.

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Marina I don't think anyone is suggesting deliberately exposing newborns to illnesses and germs but that by doing so you will not be necessarily harm the baby (as shown with the newborn immunity and bf immunity). Nobody is suggesting taking your newborn to a 'flu party' (nor would I suggest to take an older child but that is not what the op is about), but more so if you want to go to the park or the mall do so, you don't HAVE to stay in just because you have a newborn, but if you WANT to then that is ok too.

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I didn't know that about breastmilk Carolyn, interesting, it makes sense.

I was over the top paranoid and anal, I suffered with anxiety throughout my pregnancy about harm coming to my baby. So I didn't really take her in public until she had her first vaccinations, when she was born there was a swine flu epidemic in my town, so I think that caused me to be extra paranoid. The only place she really went was to the doctors.

I also tried to avoid people touching her, if they had to I had every antibacterial wipe, wash and solution available for them to use. I was also anal about vaccinations, if they hadn't had the swine flu vaccine they were not coming near her.

I look back now and realise how insane and over the top I was, but there was just no rationalising with me at the time.

I actually thought the same as Marina that breast milk would build up her immunity on it's own. Interestingly the first 8 weeks of my daughter's life she suffered with more sickness than she has in the last year and a half.

Once she had her vaccinations and my mind set had gone back to normal I was much more relaxed.

I still think that there is a need to be careful to what and who you are exposing your newborn too, but they don't need to live in a sterile bubble.

My cousin is a germ phob, she has 2 girls under 4 and they are always sick, they are not allowed to get dirty and not allowed to touch animals. I feel bad for them because I can see now that by trying to protect them she is doing more harm.

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I fully understand you question, and I feel that I answered. I am saying that I am not going to expose my infant unnecessarily just to "boost" the immune system of my infant. If I get sick, then I will pass it on. I am not going to intentionally try to get sick to do this. I don't feel bringing them in public during infancy is doing them or me any favors. When their immune system is stronger, exposing them in public places is not as risky. It takes time for their immune system to gain strength. If they are exposed BEFORE their immune system is strong, it can be life threatening. Once their immune system is matured more, a simple cold will not be detrimental.

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My kid is almost 22 months and has had one stomach bug and one cold. I didn't even think to ask people to wash their hands with her (except my MIL who is a smoker). She was only breastfed for two weeks. I kind of think life is a crapshoot that way.

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As soon as they're born. Mine was born in a hospital. Nosocomial infections are far worse than anything they'll catch at Blackdown tableland.

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i never said you needed to be sick to pass on antibodies.

In a previous post, i beleive i mentioned that the baby is born with the same immune system as the mother. Maybe you missed that peice.

I guess maybe my question isnt clear ? since you dont seem to be understanding it.

How does a mother pass on NEW antibodies to NEW germs with herself being exposed to them. as i mentioned, exposure doesnt =sickness, since you, the mothers mature immune system can fight them off.

whats going around the neighboorhood this week isnt the same strain as what was going around the neighboorhood last year, or when you caught the flu as a kid.

You can be carrier of disease without being sick yourself.

i am well aware of these facts, my previous posts would indcate that. Maybe you arent reading them fully ? not sure.

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Carolyn, I do think we need to be out and about after a month or so, I agree with you on how breastmilk protects, you do have to be exposed first, which is another reason I think the 3 month old (Eli) got so sick so much, his mom works and pumps for a few feedings so if Eli is exposed to a new germ at say 9am right after mom leaves, by 3 when she is back and breastfeeds him directly, he could already be getting sick from it. So for your milk to fully protect the baby you and the baby must be exposed to the same stuff and be breastfeeding skin to skin often in order for the baby to pass on the germs to you and let your body make antibodies for that germ.

So, since I don't work, and don't plan on being away from her much at all for about a year I do think she will be well protected by my milk.



I thi it was mostly seeing the 6 week old (Levi) today coughing that made me get all anxious. I know pertussis is mostly only deathly in the first two months, and so any coughing would scare me that young.

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I don't need to expose my new born to varies diseases to create an immune system for them. They do not have a fully developed immune system.

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