Not a debate but someone has to hear this

Stifler's - posted on 06/06/2011

I think it's just rage. They pinch hard too and make you bleed.

Katherine - posted on 06/06/2011

They do something because it effing HURT!!!!!

√v^√v^√♥ - posted on 06/06/2011

Tah - it was 25 years ago... maybe longer? The laws may have changed by then. But they said because it was something that didn't have to be reported it wasn't going to be on record and also that they didn't have to keep the record anyway or something like that...... no joke. It's what happened

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/06/2011

Damn Katherine, rough day for sure.

Tah - posted on 06/06/2011

I got punched a couple weeks ago too Katherine, i think they lift weights when we aren't looking...lol

Katherine - posted on 06/06/2011

Oh yes Emma I forgot to add that I also got punched and called a son of a bitch lol.

Tah - posted on 06/06/2011

some places are equipped to have locked units, some aren't the technology etc it would take, trust me some places aren't going to kick in the money for that. Maybe look into facilities that do have that but places that don't more often than not don't implement it because of the budget. shoot we can hardly get an extra nurse or CNA in there because budget budget budget. I was working one night as charge nurse and arrived to work to find the DON had suspended one CNA and another called out. Which left myself the other nurse and one CNA on a skilled/med-surg side(my side) and LTC(long term care) side..and if you think granny sleeps at night i have news for you, she don't.



I had my post-op patients up all night going out to smoke, on the phone and such. Then i had some grandmoms and pops up at the nurses station in their wheelchairs getting up every few minutes or trying to leave so we had to keep them in sight. People having seizures and uncontrolled pain for some of my post-op patients as well, not to mention the regular i have to use the restroom and can i get some ice every 1 hour on the hour people. Some family was there worrying you to death because mom coughed....great so did i is what you want to say..but of course you can't say that.by the end of the night i wanted to call my doctor and ask her to call me in some ativan i could pick up at he end of that double..yes it was a 11-7 7-3 because they asked me when i was feeling especially nice..lol



some places only work one nurse and one aid on overnight shifts that are busy like that as well as the paperwork that needs to be done on that shift. Sometimes on a 60 bed unit they will staff 2-3 CNA's and one nurse, two if you are lucky. You have to really investigate when you are choosing where grandmom is going. Ask them if they have a locked unit, what is you nurse to patient, aide to patient ratio..etc. If i am in the room, or goodness me have to tinkle and the 2 aides are in with someone else and she can take off her band and really just looks like a visitor, there is a good chance we will be calling a code whatever and have to go outside to retrieve her/him.

Teresa - posted on 06/06/2011

What a very special day you had...lol. So sorry.

Krista - posted on 06/06/2011

The nursing home my mom is in has a locked ward for Alzheimer's patients who can still walk. The door opens only if you know the four digit code or have the physical key. So far there have been no escapes. And even if someone should manage to get out there is a security guard sitting there in the lobby who can stop them before they get outside.

That's what it was like in the ward my grandmother was in. Katherine, it might be worth talking to the administrators to see if they could implement something like this, instead of you having to run around like a decapitated chicken every time that bell rings.

Ashley=) - posted on 06/06/2011

Hats off..you are a super mom and a super worker.
These days make you appreciate the easy relaxed days when you finally get them.Hope one comes your way pretty soon.Chin up.:-)

Stifler's - posted on 06/06/2011

I used to work in aged care bahahaha I hated the dementia unit. It stank and there was always an escape or you had to talk someone into coming to the dinner table as they were by the door waiting for the bus or "ready for church". The facility I worked in had a locked door with a code and all their doors had an alarm that went off if they got up in the night and tried to go outside or exit their room and a 6 foot fence around the whole area. People STILL got out it was insane, especially since they'd be missing on accreditation day. I got king hit by an 80 year old once who was about a foot shorter than me, they're so much stronger than they look.

Jane - posted on 06/05/2011

I am not laughing - believeme, I am all too familiar with dementia patients,

The nursing home my mom is in has a locked ward for Alzheimer's patients who can still walk. The door opens only if you know the four digit code or have the physical key. So far there have been no escapes. And even if someone should manage to get out there is a security guard sitting there in the lobby who can stop them before they get outside.

My mother has another kind of dementia, Lewy Body Dementia, that not only affects the mind but also the muscles so she really can't escape any longer, although some days she longs to fly to freedom. She is thus on the regular, unlocked dementia floor. They do put the leg band on some patients. There are a few who can get around slowly by walking their wheel chairs and a couple of them love the elevator. The leg beepers work for them.

Is there any way at all to secure that door? What about the technology that lets only the animal with the correct collar tag go through the dog door? That sounds like a really risky situation. What if you simply don't get there in time and they are heading off down the street and get injured? That would be a lawyer's dream and a nursing home's nightmare.

And the only thing I can say about the cries of "Mommy! Poop!" is that changing a kid's diapers is so much nicer than changing my mother's. Or my husband's - I was essentially his personal CNA for the last four years of his life.

Sorry your day sucked. Hope tomorrow is better.

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

Probably a spider..sneaky buggers..I spray the kids rooms and around their beds while they're at school...lol

Shannintipton - posted on 06/05/2011

cha-ching

Chatty - posted on 06/05/2011

Ativans are AWESOME!

Katherine, I'm sorry but THAT was some funny shit. Your story telling made me laugh. Here's hoping for better, less circussy (

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

Farts..

A. It's illegal to destroy those documents..so she should have been reported

B. If your grandfather was there for his 02 there was obviously an underlying condition that caused him to need help maintaining his stas and they should have been checked each shift, was he compliant at keeping his oxygen on and taking his meds. I have patients that are non compliant but family gets upset with us.

Katherine - posted on 06/05/2011

Anyways off topic, sorry.

Katherine - posted on 06/05/2011

Yep. Prednisone and Keflex, Benadryl PRN. I just want to know WTF bit her that left that kind of mark.

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

Noone knows what?..they may not know what bit her but I'm sure they know it's a reaction to a bite. What did they do?...something for pain and to take the swelling down, probably something to stop the reaction?

Katherine - posted on 06/05/2011

Makes sense.

Ok so see if you can help me with this one. My daughter was bitten by SOMETHING that left a huge bruise at the bite site. Her entire hand swelled up and she got a rash about a quarter of the way up her arm. Took her to ER, doctor's and Urgent Care, no one knows......

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

Nurse...and what happened to Ativan is some doctors don't want to give it because they don't have to deal with their anxiety and could care less about us doing it..then you have the family that says...don't give mom anything because it makes her sleepy, but then when mom falls and breaks her hip, because you don't stay with her all day and see what he does, you sue. Some people get immune to the Ativan, may as well give a skittles.

Katherine - posted on 06/05/2011

Whatever happened to Ativan?



Tah, what do you do again?





****Edit to add: His Oxygen fell off NB???!!!!!! And he died that's horrible!

√v^√v^√♥ - posted on 06/05/2011

My mom used to work in this feild and has some horror stories of her own. Her favorite lady ever got really sick and she found out AFTER she died that she actually just hadn't gone to the bathroom for a few days and ended up getting Toxic Shock and dying from it. My mom found out through her boss and her boss said 'No one cares. She was a bitch. The paperwork reguarding the issue doesn't stay in the system so no one will ever find out' and she shredded it. My mom quit because it was her favorite patient ever :( said the lady was grouchy but eventually talked to her and was actually not horrible just old and set in her ways.

My grandpa didn't want to be looked after with us so we let him go back home after 3 months. He ended up in a nursing home where his oxygen fell off and he died......... the exact reason he was put in the nursing home. Sucks

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

Because if their behavior is abusive to staff and residents we will remove you. More than likely there were complaints from family of other residents, they will smile in lacyes face and say how cute grams is but then go to nursing or administration and say do something with that lady because she is abusive and disruptive. Staff probably fought over who would take her etc, so they removed her. They don't have the staff to watch her 24/7 with 100s of other patients to tend to and she can be a flight risk, then if she does slip it off and leave heads roll.

Katherine - posted on 06/05/2011

Oh God Layce!!!!! Your poor grandmother! How do you get kicked out? That's what they're there for!!!! That's what they're trained for. Shit, I've gotten beat up by 90yo women.

Tah - posted on 06/05/2011

Some places have locked wards for them but most don't, that's why we put the alarms on them..lol

Lacye - posted on 06/05/2011

Well at least you didn't have my grandmother there! She had dementia and she was a hell raiser. She had taken the little ankle bracelet off (the one that made the door automatically close if she came too close) several times. She told a CNA to go choke on his food and called him gay, not the word she said but that's what I'm going with right now. She attacked several of the other residents. She was kicked out of the nursing home she was in and moved to one farther away from us. She was bad and she had never acted this way before she got sick.

√v^√v^√♥ - posted on 06/05/2011

daaaaang.... that sucks they cannot do locked wards for those type of people who are flight risks. I mean come on, you really have to chase them all day? That bites

I guess be grateful the two 'escapees' aren't pooping on their way out? :P hehe

Katherine - posted on 06/05/2011

It wasn't so much a bad day as a circus. A real live circus.

Lacye - posted on 06/05/2011

Aw Katherine, I'm sorry you had a bad day. Just remember, you won't have days like this all the time. How about when you get the chance go and take a nice hot bath and try to relax. It will get better.

Jaime - posted on 06/05/2011

*passes Katherine the easy button*