Parents jailed over child's truancy

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Okay, so I know we've talked about this before, but I saw this article and thought it was about time for another debate :)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/flor...

A new truancy court in Palm Beach, Florida aims to cut down on the state's absentee rate for young children by punishing parents who don't take their kids to school.

Florida law says parents of children under 16 who let their kids miss 15 days of school within three months can be sent to jail for up to two months as punishment. The Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that Palm Beach prosecutors say the two-month jail sentence will be a last resort, after government and nonprofit workers try to fix whatever problem is keeping parents from getting their kids to school.

About a dozen Baltimore parents were sent to prison for their kids' truancy in 2011, the Baltimore Sun reported in April. (In 2010, no Baltimore parents were jailed.) After California adopted a strict anti-truancy bill earlier this year, at least five parents in Orange County were sent to jail for the crime, according to the local CBS affiliate. Judges in Alabama, Texas, and North Carolina and other states have also used truancy laws to send offending parents to jail.

Earlier this year, the NAACP sued a Pennsylvania school district for levying what it claimed were illegal fines of thousands of dollars on truant students and their parents. Lenora Hummel, above, was fined $8,000 after her son and daughter stopped going to school because they said they were bullied and harassed by other students.

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Okay, so what are your thoughts?

Regarding the mom in the article, do you all think her reasons for pulling her kids are sound? I am interested to hear exactly what steps she took to solve the problems before pulling her kids out of school because I feel there's not enough info, but if she just pulled the kids without trying to fix the problem first then heck yes she should face fines and all the consequences! .

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Janice - posted on 12/17/2011

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I think fining or jailing parents of teenagers does absolutely nothing to solve the problem. Parents of elementary students should definitely be held responsible in some way but teenagers will do what they want.

I live in upstate NY and high school truancy is (or was, its been awhile) handled very differently. If a student was constantly truant and/or in trouble the school could file a PINS (Persons In Need of Supervision) petition. Parents were involved with the process and if the student continued to skip school or act out then they were sent away to a group home. Typically only for a month for truancy. Teenagers live and are schooled at the group home and are not allowed to leave. Being stripped of freedom makes an impact on teenagers that fining their parents can not.



I think teenagers need to face the consequences not there parents unless it has been determined that its the parents fault. I think this is rarely the case though. If your child is being bullied then you really need to work with the school, make demands, and get your child some counseling to help with coping. I dont see how fining parents or putting them in jail does any good.

Bugsy - posted on 04/12/2014

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I had my 8yr old daughter relocated to a different school due to a situation involving my 14yr old daughter to get assaulted (with pic's of bruises on her arm that were taken by law enforcement) at Cracker Trail Elementary school by a Guidance Counselor!!! Keep in mind, my 14yr old obviously didn't even attend at that school but happened to be in the "wrong place at the wrong time" according to the "system" AND of course, needless to say, all charges were dropped, she kept her job and I was told that "she had a bad day" which caused her actions!!! AGAIN...this was the schools GUIDANCE COUNSELOR (sure I not going to risk MY child having to go to her for any questions or concerns) my 8yr that did attend was of course freighted by the incident and understandably feared going to that school and felt threaten daily by most staff members (which was what caused the incident.....I was confronting the afterschool staff about my daughter getting bullied and when she went to the teachers about it SHE was punished!!) So now with that being said my 8yr old has to be driven 25miles out of the way to attend a school closer to my job and for the peace of mind of a "safe" school and environment! This has now resulted in her being tardy several times due to required work/school schedules being very different, 1 car and struggling to get everyone where they need to be ON TIME as apposed to riding the school buses that they are zoned for!! So now I am facing legal threats!?! What to do????

Michelle - posted on 10/04/2013

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I am currently battling the system on this issue. At the start of school there was a head lice outbreak. I have 4 daughters. Simple enough, treated them and got them back in - it just kept happening to my eldest child! They send her home, she has to - by the rules- be out 24 hours before returning. This put us as truant.

The county (Blount County, Alabama) goes through a juvenile probation officer. the parent is supposed to go up there and sit and listen to a lecture, sign some papers and that's it for that step. Well...dandy except for the fact that I am an epileptic that is not medically or legally allowed to drive. Also, my family lives 1/2 hour away and would have to travel another 45 minutes to the court house, not to mention the time there and the time to take me BACK home. This, providing of course, one of them felt compelled to take off work to do this.

I asked if it could be a phone conference, they said no, there are papers to sign. I asked her to mail them, she said no, signature must be witnessed. I asked her if she could mail them and I could have it notarized (I can walk the 2 miles to main street to do this to clear it all up). She said no she has to SEE it. I asked her if it could be a video conference. She said no - again- and told me I just wanted to argue.
I asked her if she was aware that discrimination is illegal and failing to provide procedures for the disabled is discriminatory not to mention appalling. She asked me "Well how do you buy groceries?!" I sort of lost my mind a little bit, I keep getting asked that. Well, to answer -- I go once a month with a friend on HER schedule. if I run out of something, I'm just out, or I have to wait until it is convenient for someone else to take me or pick something up for me, or I walk the 2 miles to the store if it is something my daughters HAVE to have.

Anyway, The people enforcing the rule have nothing in place for disabled individuals (though one woman did say, when asked what provisions they had for disabled "we have ramps " Idjits) Those dishing out the arrest warrants don't know the full consequences --and I quote-- "If you fail to show up, I issue a warrant for your arrest" Then what? "You bond out." -- Oh that's cute you think an epileptic unemployed single mother of 4 keeps bail money lying around. What I mean is, how long will you keep me in jail?-- "I..I don't know" --So, basically you are dishing out punishments that you don;t even understand?-- "Well you bond out" --Are you paying for it? I didn't think so. "

At this point I am so fired up that this is going to be a bigger battle than they expect. I will be going head to head with the BOE until they provide a reasonable compromise for disabled parents. Because frankly, the fear tactics and bull-hocky logic is too much to simply sit and let pass by.

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Shawnn - posted on 04/22/2014

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Bugsy, since you've made the choice to remove your child from your home district (of course it's your right, and I'm not criticizing that), then it is up to you to make the necessary adjustments to your personal schedule to fit the transportation in. Either that, or go through the request process, and request an exception to the transportation policy...but that usually requires a lot of legwork, and most times is refused anyway.

Visit with your employer to see if perhaps your schedule could flex to meet your new transportation needs. Alternatively, your daughter may need to arrive at school a few minutes earlier in order for you to also make it to work on time.

Victoria - posted on 03/18/2014

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What if my child is over 16 and is home schooled, but she refuses to do her work? Are we able to turn her over to DJJ?

Joi - posted on 11/08/2013

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I have a major problem at the moment. The school is ready to take me to court and they have threaten jail time along with 900+ dollar fine. I am a single parent, I worked for the DoD for 16 years so my hours (not negotiable) are from 0600 to 1430 - I have secret clearance and my job is high level so it's hard to take off time. I have two boys one just graduated school and has 3.6 GPA now attending college the other son (14) not so well. I'm a strict parent, I have been accused of it and I'm proud of it because nothing is better than a caring parent but here is the deal. My youngest son is just a child that's being bullied and his school will not stop this so what does my son to do? I do not know who the bully is so I cannot talk to his or her parent, the school will not acknowledge that there is even a bully despite what my son has said. They have claimed that they seen my son roaming the halls but they just let him leave school premises. My son in fact rides the bus to school, my son would go into school to see some friends then leave the premises to run to who ever house for cover. Then would go back to school for last bell and then ride home on the bus. It's random on how he leaves school or what bell but he misses a lot of class and full days. I participate in his school, I take him to his therapist for help but nothing helps. Were down to one more day because it's the chopping blocks for me. I have a school system that does not care and I'm not the only parent that's going to jail. I tried and exhausted everything but my son rather see me go to jail to face another day in that school. I am actually going to move 50 miles south out of this god forsaken state VIRGINIA, but at the moment I am facing jail and fines. IF they proceed, I will loose my secret clearance at my 16 year career with the DoD. I will be jobless, my son will be out on the streets while I am in jail. Thank you Virginia and the truancy officer that thinks shes the best thing. There is more to tell but I am so mad, so this is where I am at. Any suggestions? My lawyer said I am screwed, cant even sue the school.

Ryca - posted on 09/28/2013

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I do not know why a teenager not going to school is always linked to bullying, as if that is the only good excuse on this planet to stop going. Please do not misunderstand me, being bulled and ignored at school is a miserable experience and one no one should ever have to be put through for 4 years. However, bullying should not be the only legitimate reason for a teen wanting to drop out of school. There are many other legitimate reasons why a teen should choose not to go. But the point is, the teenager and the parents are NOT criminals just because their teen is not going to school. This is out of hand. Wow, that is sad that the government is pinning parents against their own child and vice versa. So if your child doesn't go to school, the parents or child get sent to jail or foster care? Lot's of students can not graduate high school for one reason or another. It doesn't make them or their parents criminals. I know many people with a high school diploma and they are drug addicts and criminals, so a high school diploma does not guarantee you will be a great success in life. This is ridiculous that the state is giving you an option of either forcing your child to go to school (which leads to arguments, fights, resentments and a whole slew of other things because by the time kids are teenagers, you can't really force them to do anything) or put them in foster care or jail? Maybe teenagers need a break from school to figure out what their going to do with their lives. Give them time and they will go back to school on their own in some type of trade school or what have you. I got my GED, went to business school and got a job in accounting and have worked there for years. High school was not for me. Does that make me a bad person or a criminal? Something needs to be done about these laws that force families to turn on each other and throw them in jail or in foster care because a teenager can't go to high school. That is criminal in itself. Shame on the government.

There are other options besides high school and the government needs to butt out of that. Focus on getting child molesters and killers (which , believe it or not, most child molesters have their high school diploma, go figure.) off the streets and leave these families who are already struggling alone. If given a chance, the teenagers will come into their own instead of forcing them to do something that they are not capable of doing right now. A high school diploma doesn't guarantee squat. I can whip out a list of millionaires and billionaires who did not graduate high school. I can whip out a list of criminals who graduated from high school. The point is, a person's destiny and choices have nothing to do with high school. Nothing, if it did, then there wouldn't be all these statistics that I just mentioned.

Heather A - posted on 09/20/2013

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I absolutely agree with the mom pulling her kids. I think this crap about 'truancy' is just another way to get taxpayers to hand over more money. We already pay taxes and our kids still get bullied not just by other kids but by teachers as well. As far as 'not trying to fix the problem,' have you ever tried talking to school employees and stand up for your child? You get nowhere because they all stick together; I will believe my kids over anybody else any day of the week. I believed my daughter who told me her teacher "humiliated" her (her words) in front of the whole class, yet when I talked to the principal, it took him a week to get back to me and he claims she's lying. THREE KIDS were humiliated, and if their parents won't stand up for them while I stand up for my daughter, I'm fighting a losing fight. So yeah, I think the mother was right in pulling her kids, I think we as parents not only have the rights but the responsibility to watch out for our kids because while we stick up for them and protect them, we're TEACHING them to stand up for themselves and others who are the 'underdogs.'

Deborah Ridgely - posted on 09/02/2013

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Way out of line, especially when homeschooling is becoming more prevalent!

Barbara - posted on 12/04/2012

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In today's world the rules need to be changed because most parents work and even though parents can drop the kids off to school there is not telling if they will stay there. Case in point my mom had trouble with my brother and she would drop him off only for him to go out another door and at the time she did not know this was going on until she received a letter from the school stating that he was not present for classes. So I think the children should have to do some sort of community work that the authorities make them do and they should have to learn what they are missing. To put a parent in jail is not helping the child anyway. The child needs to have warnings that if they are not going to school then boot camp should be incorporated into their lives. Our taxes should pay for the boot camps instead of the politicians making big salaries and with boot camp our children will learn. Bullying and harassing by other students should be stopped and I think the teachers and the parent need more communication and nip this problem in the bud. Who wants to go to school if they are being bullied? This country needs to see what needs to be done first whether its for the children or big salaries for politicians. We all pay lots of taxes and it just seems like money is being wasted. Education, housing and highways should be on the top of the lists not wasteful salaries for these politicians who don't need to worry about health insurance either. No I do not think parents should be put in jail or fined because their child will not go to school, it will not help the child.

Lakota - posted on 12/04/2012

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Susan, sorry to hear that you are going through that. But, the majority of the parents who don't make their kids go to school aren't in your situation. I also stated that there is no good excuse unless there is a medical one for kids to not go to school or be homeschooled. So before you judge anyone with your "ignorance" comments, read the whole statement. Those parents are the ones who should get in trouble for being irresponsible and lazy. No one here is judging. We are stating out opinion as parents who get their kids off to school no matter how hard it is.



You said it has progressively gotten worse the past two years. What happened that made it worse? "Up until recently the home school has worked with me, 504's, IEP's...." Why is home schooling not working any more? I don't know what 504's and IEPs are. "Did I mention my son has been hospitalized 5 times in a mental hospital for severe depression, wanting to die, thoughts of killing himself, and trying to hurt me, his mother?" What is his therapist doing to help your child and what has he been diagnose with?

Susan - posted on 12/03/2012

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Why? WHY, to this day does the ignorance of those who judge STILL cease to amaze me? I tend to forget how many glass houses I live amongst. My 11 year old son refuses to go to school. It has progressively gotten worse for 2 years but came to a head this past. Up until recently the home school has worked with me, 504's, IEP's, so many tears I've cried but I never, NEVER stopped asking for help or gave up on my son!



The last 2 weeks of school were traumatic for both me and my son as I would have to call ahead to put everyone on "alert" as to our arrival. They would position 5 adults outside to catch him for when he ran from one of us so that he wouldn't run into the road. One time he was carried into the school by the principle and an assistant in a "hog tied" manner as I refer to it, envision one carrying from under the shoulders and one by the ankles as his body dangled lifelessly in between, all the while the students in the lunch room got "lunch and a show" that day. What do you think this did to my already bipolar, depressed, anxiety ridden son? Or maybe he deserved that emotional beating for being disobedient in not wanting to go to school? How scared do you think he was the first time he ever had the police called on him and told he would be arrested if he didn't get out of the car and go into the school? Did I mention my son has been hospitalized 5 times in a mental hospital for severe depression, wanting to die, thoughts of killing himself, and trying to hurt me, his mother?



A new school year and all was well for the first 10 school days. After that it is now a repeat of last year but 100 times worse. I was told "just get him to the school, we'll take it from here" Well that sounds easy enough, right? For those of you who think I'm lazy for no longer taking my son to school, this is what I endured on a daily basis; he would jump out of the car while it was moving (I fixed that by using the child safety locks on the doors) boy that really angered him so he began throwing whatever he could find in the car at me, i.e. school books, the dvd player, cd's (I fixed that by removing EVERYTHING in the car he could throw at me) he didn't like that one bit so he started taking his sneakers off. The first one he'd throw at me, the other one he held on to so he could beat me in the head with it until we got to school. OK, I'll fix that, I won't put his shoes on him until we get to the school, nope, he always one up's me! Now it's getting dangerous...he unbuckles himself and grabs the wheel, tries to grab the keys from the ignition, pulls the car out of gear. Besides mine and my sons, how many lives do you think I put in danger trying to get him to school?



Finally, the principle calls an emergency IEP meeting stating we are in a "crisis" situation right now. Sadly enough what moved her to this decision was witnessing my son physically assault me by hitting me in the face 3 times knocking my glasses off while trying to get him into the school...it was all caught on the schools security camera.



I was thrilled, finally something was going to be done! There were 15 people in that room 4, including myself were there on my and Lukes behalf and they were Luke's therapist, his case worker and my case worker. EVERY PERSON IN THAT ROOM agreed Luke needed to be placed in another (public) school that was better equipped to handle emotionally challenged children BUT ONE and she was from the Board of Education. She felt that just one more try of offering "lollypops and extra recces" time should be given one last try before placing elsewhere. Did she not see the video?! I forgot to mention something VERY important, the week before this meeting I receive 3 referrals in the mail that Luke had gotten. 2 of them stated he was becoming aggressive with the other children. Now I ask you, do YOU want my son sitting beside your child? Teaching him/her words like douche bag? Not knowing if your child is going to look at mine the wrong way and get hurt for it? I wouldn't!



I pleaded with this women to reconsider for the other children's sake. She would not have it. Just get him to school she said. So I tried and I tried...I can't try anymore. I can't put those other children in harms way.



I am also disabled. I weigh 105lbs soaking wet and have essential tremors nearly daily. How lazy am I now?



Friday I received a summons "The State of Maryland vs Susan A...." I was charged with FORTY TWO counts of my sons truancy. I don't deserve this...



Please, watch what you say as even when you think "there is no good reason", there can be and in this case IS a good reason...

Lakota - posted on 11/05/2012

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I think it's sad that it has come to things like this - parents being forced to be responsible or else. I understand that some kids may not want to go because of bullying. But, the parent/parents should figure out what needs to be done then - switch schools, homeschool, etc.

No other good excuse for not going (unless it's medical) and it's pure laziness on the parents part - even if it's a singe parent home.

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Dee, Is the fact that he is staying up too late in the evenings keeping him from getting up in the mornings?

Try to create a natural earlier bedtime--eliminate all TV, video games, computers, and other electronics after 5pm. Stimulus from those kinds of activities can keep our brains from triggering the chemical releases that help us fall asleep. You should only need to cut them out 2 hours before bedtime, but if his issues are as extreme as you say they are, I would cut them out as much as possible to start, then gradually add them back, but never allow them past 8pm.



Also, consider an online schooling program that he can work around his natural sleep patterns. If you are in the US, I believe all states have free ones now, you just have to sign up through your district.



You have to take control of him. Even if he sleeps until 10am, as soon as he is awake, get him dressed and off to school. He'll be tardy, but it will show that you are making an effort to get him there, and it will show him that you will not let him sit out just because he slept in.

I assume you have taken his privileges away--there should be nothing in his room but a bed and blankets, and any extracurricular activities should be discontinued until he shows improvement--say perfect attendance for 90 days, earns one activity back.

Tracey - posted on 11/05/2012

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Dee, could social services fund a home teacher through direct payments to show your son is getting some eduation?

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I have a 12 year old son who has been a school refuser for nearly 2 years now . I have already been taken to court and fined. I have had cams try to help social services local police . But nothing is working he has seen the doctor been given sleep medication but fights it. That's the problem he says he dose not want to go to sleep. I don't understand it. Our family is falling apart . And I've now been informed at a meeting today December I will be taken back to court and god knows what will happen this time.

The think I can not handle is I can not stop this happening I have no control. But yet I'm being punished. I've looked at bootcamp s but can not afford them. I'm can not take any more its breaking me as a person. And it's making me think what's the point. I can not look to the future as I can not see me having one

..... Dee

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 03/06/2012

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Ah, I can add my 2 cents on why I skipped all the time! My mother was a single Mom. She was gone by 5:30am and not back home until 5:30pm.



She did not discipline me ever (other than spank meas a young child). She had NO boundaries and never explained to me what life was all about. I was left to fend for myself by the age of 10 (8 for most things). I was a smart kid. I knew that I could skip, as long as I got that 3:30pm automated phone call before she did. I also knew that the attendance reports were mailed home every 2 months. Guess who got the mail? Yep, me.



I skipped so I could PARTY hardy! Once in High School, my friends and I would go back to my house and do a hundred hot knives and laugh up a storm. Cook whatever we wanted. Then , go back to school to reach whatever class we skipped yesterday. We all tried to get to each class at least every 2nd or 3rd day. I dunno how I passed everything. I did drop out in grade 12, with only 3 subjects left to graduate. STUPID?? Hell yes!



So, anyhow, the point is. For me I skipped because I could. I had no one to tell me otherwise. I also knew that if my mother found out, it would just be a bunch of yelling and then it would be over. I could handle that.



Some kids skip because they are being bullied. I would hope these children can talk to their parents. If they can and they have good parents. Their parents will support them to the bitter end. They would kick some ass! I know I would. Those bullies wouldn't be at that school for very long if they didn't smarten the hell up. Other kids skip because their parents just aren't available. They don't have boundaries and discipline (correct discipline that is). They are rebelling for a reason. It is never because they are bad....



Just my experience and my 2 cents... ;)

MeMe - Raises Her Hand (-_-) (Mommy Of A Toddler And Teen) - posted on 03/06/2012

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My daughter is not there yet, with thinking about skipping class. She does know though, that I will take the time off of work and drag her sorry butt to school and sit in on every single class. I will even hop the damn school bus with her. I'm not wasting my gas for her misbehavior. I would be willing to do this for a couple weeks. I have lots of vacation time banked. LOL



I do feel parents are responsible for children under 16. Over 16 too but, it is a bit harder. They should know by then. As long as my kid lives under my roof they will do what they have to do to succeed. Don't want to go to "school" then you will be doing another form of schooling. I haven't looked into them all but there are several available.



So far, so good. My kid likes school. ;) Then again, she knows, Momma has no issue with public embarrassment. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going! ;)



Parents should be held responsible. If they aren't making their kids go to school and give up, what else are they not doing for them?



P.S. I have not read any comments.. This is just how I feel and what I would do. ;)

Jodi - posted on 03/05/2012

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Hmmm, not sure I feel on this one. On the one hand, it depends on each case, WHY is the child not showing up? Is it simply that the parent is allowing to stay home...then yes, the parent should be punished, although I do feel that jail is a bit extreme. If the child is skipping, then how is pushing the parents helping? All it teaches them is that, "You do something wrong, and your parents pay the price." If there's a legitimate reason, such as a serious illness, or family issues, then they need help, not punishment.



As for the mother, as long as she was continuing her children's education at home, it shouldn't matter one iota why or how she pulled them out. But, there is just not enough info to go off of.

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You want to pull your kids out for being bullied? I'm fine with that, it's a parents personal choice, a family decision & nobody else can make that choice for you. However, your kids being picked on doesn't give one a free pass to be a lazy neglectful parent. Education is important & required by law. Home school & FREE cyber school is an option. You aren't doing your kids any favors by letting them just not go anymore. Life is hard, suck it up, or find a different way to accomplish your goals. Quitting is not okay & the laws are there to protect the children when the parents won't.

Jennifer - posted on 12/16/2011

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Sounds like kids need to be smarter, I went to class, waited till attendance was done, then left. No one ever knew I was gone. But I was one really ass of a kid. Thankfully, none of mine are near that bad! I really doubt my parents could have forced me to go to school if I didn't want to. I was 14 when I rebelled that bad. I also rode the bus 11 miles to school. I'd get on the bus, ride to school and then do what I wanted. Had to 'check in' every hour.

I don't work, so I would not be above following my kids all day, though it would be really hard for someone who had to be at work.

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I agree w/ Amanda. Once the kid is in high school it should be him/her that pays the consequences for missing school... not the parents. It's easier to ditch when you/your friends can drive and have cars. ;)

Where do the kids go if the parent in jail is a single mom/dad and there are other kids in the family as well? I can't say I agree w/ jail time, but I don't HAVE any other answers.

Amanda - posted on 12/16/2011

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I think if a child is in highschool its up to that teenager to get keep his/her ass in school. But elementary school for sure the parent is responsible and should be held accountible. I know of a family whos children missed 100+ days of school YEARLY, the school keeps threating the mother but actually take no real action. These children are missing out, even failed a year due to their truancy.

Iridescent - posted on 12/15/2011

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I've had to pull my son from school because he was being physically harmed. He's now ill, and needs at least 1 surgery to correct what the school nurse did to him. He IS truant. Should I go to jail for this? I WANT him in school.

I don't think the parent of the bullied children should have been punished. I think school officials need to be held liable and actually enforce their policies, and our children need to be SAFE at school. What happened to that?

America3437 - posted on 12/14/2011

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I came home from "school" one afternoon and the County Judge was in my living room with my Mom in handcuffs and was taking her to jail for 100+ days. I daay of jail for every day I skipped! I had swore under oath 2 weeks earlier that I would no longer skip and because I didn't show up at school that day he was done with me! After several debating moments the Judge drove me to school and signed me out! That is how I got my mom out of it! She had actually walked me to class on one ocasion and I beat her off the property! She had done all she could do as a parent to get me to school and Thank God the Judge finally seen that or I would still be gettin my ass beat at 36 for it!

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The Buffalo School district has a HORRIBLE truancy problem and the teenagers aren't the only ones. They're seeing severe truance in the elementary schools. Over 30% (I don't recall the exact number) of elementary students have missed over 100 days of school each year. I am somewhat in favor of punishing parents. Yes, there are certainly extenuating circumstances but I have a real problem believing that tht is the majority of the students involved.

Vegemite - posted on 12/14/2011

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Jane that's horrible to hear. I was just a little sh**. Looks like we have nothing in common. Sorry

Tina - posted on 12/14/2011

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My aunty use to take her daughter to school and see her go in it didn't stop her leaving again. Parents and teachers need to be working together to solve the problems. Sending parents to jail isn't going to solve the problem and get to the bottom of the issue as to why a child doesn't want to go in the first place. Parents can do everything to make sure their kids get to school and go to class but then they need to to be supervised to make sure they don't leave. I parent can't just keep taking time off work or they'll end up without a job. There's another bad example for the child.

Stifler's - posted on 12/13/2011

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Jail? No. What's the point. You're wasting resources sending people like that to jail. Send the kids to "military school" lol

Sherri - posted on 12/13/2011

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My kids know school is their job if they don't go I would drag there butts to school and stay with them for every class. So they go every day with no fight because public humiliation would be a thousand times worse for them.

Your kids don't go to school yup then parents should be paying the price.

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I think parents have a responsibility to ensure their children are getting an education. If your child is skipping school, then it is your responsibility as a parent to figure out why and remedy the situation. It may be that the program they are in really isn't a good fit for them. Then, rather than allowing them not to go period, you need to find a solution that is a good fit. Allowing them to quit going to school because they are being bullied just teaches them to run from their problems, not to find productive ways to solve them. If the problem is that severe and cannot be solved with the school they are in, then pull them out by all means, but don't just let them quit school altogether. Find a better school, do distance ed, or homeschool.
On the other hand, I do hope there are some parameters around this law. I would hate to see parents punished because their kids are undergoing cancer treatments or have recently lost a parent and are too distressed to handle school for a while. 15 days is only 3 weeks of school - not such a long time if you are dealing with very serious and traumatic life circumstances.

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My son is ADHD, ODD, Bipolar and Asperger's, with brain damage from birth. I love him but I don't always like him.

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Yeah I wasn't saying it doesn't work for you but that it wouldn't work for all.
Your son and I sound like we have some similarities.

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@Chrissey - My son is far from a normal child and has already hit the extremes, including assault. The only thing left, besides arrest, is public embarrassment. It obviously works because no matter how much he hates school he does go.

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I think at some point children need to have responsiblity for their actions. Maybe that age needs to be taken down to 14. I think for some kids this is just teaching them that they can act up and don't worry mum and dad will take the fall.
Jane if my dad did that my behaviour would have become even more extreme. Then again my home life wasn't the norm.

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My son hates school, but he has long been aware that if he ditches I will go to school with him the next day and shadow him all day.

If your kids are being bullied, then as a parent you need to make sure the school knows and, as my neighbor did, even bring in lawyers if the school doesn't do anything. If you DO insist in pulling your kids out of school, then you need to enroll them somewhere else or jump through the hoops to tell the school you are homeschooling.

Sending your kids to school is the law. You break the law, you pay the price.

Vegemite - posted on 12/13/2011

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yeah my dad did that once. Went to school he left for work and I left too. Should he have stayed all day everday to make sure I stayed too? A parent cannot make a child do what they are supposed to do or not do what they shouldn't when the child is not under their supervision. Where is the schools' and states' responsiblity and the older childrens'. Imprisoning a person for anothers action is obsurd even if that other person happens to be their own teenage child.

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The law is only for children under 16. I do think it's the parents' responsibility to make sure their child goes to school, especially if the child is having problems when unsupervised. After 3-4 calls from teh school saying my kids ditched I would be right there making sure my child physically walked into class, even if I had to take personal time from my job to do so.

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Did she even pull her kids out of school? I know between the ages of 10 and 15 (when I left school) there would be no way anyone would be able to make me go if I didn't want to.
What about parents who work? Are the states going to provide a system for them to make sure kids get to school and stay there, ie. before and after school care, a way to make sure they get on the bus.
I think it's wrong to penalise a parent for a teens disobedience towards the law. Sure if they were young primary school aged kids there should be some consiquence for the parents and an investigation into why any minor is not attending school but at some point a child starts to become an adult and should start to take responsibility for their own actions.

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