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I'm totally for school uniforms. NOT because they supposedly eliminate bullying. That they do not. There will always be some reason a kid gets bullied.

I like them for the following reasons:

1. No class time wasted. I could watch my students walk into the classroom and in a glance I could determine that they were all dressed appropriately. I didn't have to read t-shirts for inappropriate messages or measure tank top straps and skirt lengths. I could easily see that everyone had a blue or white polo and khaki bottoms with a belt and closed toe shoes. No kids missed class time for being sent to the office to change into clothes that fit the dress code.

2. Cost effective. Teresa, I know you said it's costing you more money. I can see that being the case for a place where uniforms are not the norm. But here, EVERY single public school requires a uniform. Every church, PTO, and news station holds a uniform drive and fundraisers to ensure that all students have the appropriate uniform. And if you have friends with older kids you can just use their uniforms...since the 'style' never changes.

3. Fosters MORE creativity. Yes, it really does. I know that people like to express themselves through clothing. That's fine, but clothing is so superficial. If children want to express themselves, they can do so through art or writing or athletics or club memberships...the possibilities are endless.

Sharon - posted on 06/02/2011

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I'm FOR school uniforms.

School is not about individuality. Its about learning. If you want your kid to learn about style, take them to the Paris fashion shows.

I can promise you that they aren't learning "fashion" at school. "Fad" yes, "fashion" no.

"Expressing yourself" not done at school. Someone could claim that pissing on a wall is "expressing themselves." Its a nuisance and a distraction and nasty. Like some fads. But still pissing on the wall is going to get you in trouble.

Just because it happens in school, doesn't mean its supposed to.

Kids will bully or tease for any reason, but eliminating one of the biggest reasons would be nice. Considering all the other benefits of a uniform.

Save your "expression" for trips to the mall, choices of music and art. NOT school.

Its no wonder kids aren't educated these days. Everyone is worried about stifling their "expression." LMFAO.

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So what would you do if every single public school also required uniforms? Homeschool? Move to a different state?

Also, read a few post up and you'll see MANY good reason to answer your first question.

Jenn - posted on 06/01/2011

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This was my daughter's first year in public school and they require uniforms but the kids can wear whatever shoes and accessories they want. Pink polka dot hair bows and dark blue plaid jumpers rock! ;) I love uniforms. Getting dressed was as simple as laying out all five options and letting her choose the combo for the day. The uniforms were pricey but one time shopping for durable clothes that don't fade or pill in the wash is worth it!! Her uniform clothing looks as good today as when we bought it. Plus the school has a resale day to buy used uniforms right before school starts. My child won the Young Masters art award this year in school so that confirms that the uniform doesn't smother creativity!

Christy - posted on 06/01/2011

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My daughter attends a Charter High School, which is public education with a theme. Anyway, they do require a uniform, but their dress code is a bit more lenient than most. They can wear any solid color slacks, with a solid colored polo shirt (3 buttons, small logo) or solid colored oxford. Dress shoes must be solid colored, and if wanted, a sweater can be worn, solid colored.

So the kids are dressed somewhat professionally, which does help them behave better, but they can show some personality with their color combinations. They can wear crazy socks, ties, and jewelry, but their hair has to be a natural color and the boys cannot have hair past their collar. I really like the dress code. Skirts have to be below the knee, and no cleavage should show. I feel that it helps them learn respect for their own bodies as well as the opposite sex. It's not so strict that I have troubles finding uniform pieces nor so strict that I can't shop the deals.

In this scenario, I'm for uniforms! When I go into the middle school, I cringe when I see the short skirts and boobs hanging out, and wonder how my son will survive! (He doesn't want to go to the Charter HS.)

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Jenn - posted on 06/02/2011

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Sherri - they convinced me (not that I was strongly against them anyway) based on all the reasons listed if you read the thread. And your reason of "What is the point", isn't a real reason. :P

Lucy - posted on 06/02/2011

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In the UK all state schools I have come across have a uniform, and I'm glad that they do for the following reasons-
1. You can benefit from hand me downs from friends and uniform items like white shirts are incredibly cheap from super markets.
2. It gives the kids a sense of pride in their school and a shared identity.
3. It doesn't eliminate bullying, but it goes some way to reducing it.
4. You can spot kids cutting class a mile off!
It's really a no brainer to me, I don't understand why any school would not have a uniform, unless it's a post 16 colege, in which case I think there should still be a dress code.

Desiree - posted on 06/02/2011

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Hey I don't get a choice, every school has a uniform in South Africa. Even if it's denims and branded T-Shirt. I have lived with it all my life so for me it's niether here or there.

Jenn - posted on 06/02/2011

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My children attend a free charter school....I based the decision to send them there because the school is exemplary. The fact they wear uniforms may not have anything to do with the 10 year old school's tremendous success but uniforms certainly haven't hindered it.

Sherri - posted on 06/02/2011

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I am strongly opposed to uniforms for many reasons. #1 Really what is the point. #2 I love dressing my kids they have beautiful school clothes. Nothing is ever inappropriate. Why can't I dress them that is kind of my right as their parent.

Honestly if there was a reason why I would never send my children to private school....Hands down it is because of mandatory uniforms.

Katherine - posted on 06/02/2011

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My daughter goes to a charter school and I love the fact that I don't have to pick out clothes everyday. I like the uniforms, that way no one has any problems with who's wearing what.

They are a little strict but again, I like it. Uniforms are expensive but you can go to the school store and buy them cheaply. I mean CHEAPLY. And they have to be in good condition so you aren't buying clothes with stains.

They have spirit week and day where they can wear whatever they want, so they are flexible that way.

All in all I'm for it.

JuLeah - posted on 06/02/2011

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I attended a school that required uniforms. The logic was that it promotes school pride, cuts down on the clothing differnces between kids with money and kids without, cuts down on flashing gang symbols ..... none of that was my experiance. Rich kids wore rich shoes jackets necklaces and such ..... gang kids were hair bands or jackets in their color .... people are people and dressing them differently doesn't change that

Jenn - posted on 06/02/2011

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"you have to wear a uniform to work when you grow up anyway" - yeah, if you work at McDonald's maybe LOL!

OK guys - you've totally changed my mind. I am for uniforms. :)

Jodi - posted on 06/01/2011

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"Another advantage for the school is that it is really easy to spot young people on campus who don't belong to the school."

And easy to spot when they are skipping off campus at lunch break..... Our local high school has no uniform, and I just saw a bunch of them hanging around the local tavern in a corner, smoking. No idea if they had also been inside drinking. I'm betting that if they had to wear uniform, they wouldn't have quite been so brazen.

Michele - posted on 06/01/2011

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Another advantage for the school is that it is really easy to spot young people on campus who don't belong to the school.

Stifler's - posted on 06/01/2011

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For. i think they're cute and you have to wear a uniform to work when you grow up anyway so meh. it's also easier to get kids ready for school, they wear the same thing every day so there's no arguments over their favourite pants being in the wash etc.

Jenn - posted on 06/01/2011

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OK - you're getting my attention here. Maybe there not so bad. I would like it better if the short skirts were gone. I don't like the idea that a school can tell you what to do with your hair though - I draw the line there LOL!

Erin - posted on 06/01/2011

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Uniforms are standard here in Aus, for both public and private schools. I'm for them. So much easier!

Michele - posted on 06/01/2011

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I found uniforms easier in elementary school. A lot less time making up their minds what to wear.

Lady Heather - posted on 06/01/2011

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I guess I'm not really "for" because I wouldn't say that every school should have them, but I can definitely see the benefits. Might not make a huge difference when it comes to bullying. I know for my school it likely wouldn't have because it was such a small town and very cliquey and showing up late into elementary school I would be doomed no matter what the kids were wearing. But sure does make deciding what to wear a lot easier. There are some days where I kind of wish there was some life uniform to throw on so I didn't have to think. All my pants and shirts would match. Yay!

Elfrieda - posted on 06/01/2011

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I mostly like the idea of uniforms. I think it's cute when a lot of little kids are all dressed the same, it makes it easier to decide what to wear, it makes the obvious wealth differences less obvious, and it gives a sort of professional vibe to everything. Also, on field trips it would be easy to catch strays before they blend into the crowd! :)

On the cons, the uniforms at the Catholic highschools in our area just look skanky. The administration is constantly fighting with the girls to pull down their skirts, and now that it's a power struggle, the girls inch their skirts up so they're barely covering their butts. Think Brittany Spears several years ago. Not a good look. But if we stayed far away from that power-struggle scenario, I'm for them.

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I'm rather neutral w/ leaning more towards against... for the cost factor mainly.

The preschool my son is going to go to in August requires them to wear a school shirt... which costs $10 each. That may not be a lot of money to some, but in his entire 3 years of life I have never paid that much for a single article of his clothing (especially since over 75% of his clothes have been hand me downs). Thankfully he's only going 2 days/week, so I only have to buy 2 shirts. ;)

Dress codes I'm for (no short skirts, clothes w/ offensive slogans, etc...) though.

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Undecided. I can see the pros and cons and they both make sense. I think I tend to lean more towards 'against'. I want Roxanne to develop her own sense of style and identity....ugh, I dunno.....she can do that in her free time.....I don't have a strong opinion either way but am curious to see what everyone else says.

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Our daughter's public school has a uniform policy. It's a pretty relaxed one (the kids can wear anything red, white, blue or khaki - but no jeans and no shirts with straps less than 1 inch wide). We like it because it makes it really easy for our daughter to get herself ready in the mornings and she likes it because she says there's a lot less judgement between the students since they pretty much all wear the same thing. I'm not saying there is no bullying, but there sure is a lot less than at the other elementary school that doesn't have a uniform policy...

~♥Little Miss - posted on 06/01/2011

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I am not sure how I feel either. I am on the fence. My son is enrolled in a Charter School starting in the fall, and I just found out he is gonna wear a uniform. I have my pros and cons much like you do.

Jenn - posted on 06/01/2011

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Not really sure how I feel. I think they could be good to avoid kids being picked on for what they wear, and it would break down some of the walls between "groups" of kids. But at the same time, kids will tease or bully for any reason - so that won't stop them. I also don't like the way the uniforms I've seen around here at the catholic school are the really short skirts. Plus I think it's good to be able to express yourself with your own style. So I guess I'm going to have to go with - against.

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